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What's The Fastest Class For Heroic Dungeon Boosting?

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Lonarra

Lonarra

Күн бұрын

Many people have asked me which class is able to complete Heroic MoP Remix Dungeons the fastest, and I've always maintained that it's Havoc Demon Hunter, by a large margin. In this video I'll show you the most optimal route through each dungeon available to a level 20 twink, and I'll complete one run on an Hpriest, and another run on a Havoc Demon Hunter. Hopefully this will help you understand why DHs are the kings of Heroic dungeon boosting.
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If you haven't already seen my main channel video which discusses the basics of this system and how it can be used for efficient leveling, you should watch it here: • How To Level From 10-7...
Timestamps
00:00 - Introduction
02:06 - Temple of the Jade Serpent
06:12 - Scarlet Halls
10:37 - Scarlet Monastery
13:52 - Scholomance
18:08 - Stormstout Brewery
23:52 - Conclusion
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@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
I can't believe I need to say this, but no, wall clips are not, and have NEVER been considered a bannable exploit. They've been used in competitive formats like Challenge Modes and M+ for ages. It's fine if you dislike these strategies, but confidently spreading misinformation is super cringe. Also, here's the Fel Rush macro: /run f=CreateFrame("frame");f.d=0.5;f:SetScript("OnUpdate",function(s,e) f.d=f.d-e if f.d45 then local d=time()+0.3 while time()
@Kemyo0
@Kemyo0 Ай бұрын
ty!
@raypatricio1444
@raypatricio1444 Ай бұрын
I built my monk enough that touch of death instantly activates for wise mari
@cheeksbecool
@cheeksbecool Ай бұрын
Ive been boosting with monk and for dungeons and scenarios I coulsnt figure how dh would be faster. With these skips it makes sense.
@TheSaruDesu
@TheSaruDesu Ай бұрын
Lonarra , I build a worgen guardian druid twink and its insane how fast i complete H dgs ! worgen has a sprint skill extra so i equip trailblazer cogwheel gem and dash all the way to bosses and obliterate them with quick strike tinker gem ! i capped all substats in 1 day completing the initial 3 campaigns , archvments and daylis! Thanks for the inspiration to do it and thanks to let me know how to help my friends to create alts and to do my farm and alts ! S2
@Mckadesarcade
@Mckadesarcade Ай бұрын
I love just running a guardian druid for boosting
@Malrats
@Malrats Ай бұрын
What build do you use?
@cal00044
@cal00044 Ай бұрын
Thanks for this, I picked up a few technique tips. Your priest has about the same stats as mine so I can offer a couple of tips of my own. You can Chastise + Holy Fire Jandice right away and she'll die even if she disappears, because DoTs keep ticking (she just pops out and dies so you don't lose any time). I don't use Chastise on the first boss so I can use it there. If you have the taunt horn toy you can use it in the room before Lillian (I run into that room after Rattlegore and pull the mob at the door with pain, then leap into the middle of the room, which puts you in the perfect position to use that toy - I generally like doing a few efficient trash pulls like this for more XP, though it's not strictly the fastest). And at the end of Brewery when the nine small mobs spawn you can stand in the middle of them and your nova will hit them all.
@T3hRealMcCoy
@T3hRealMcCoy Ай бұрын
Whats your DH build for twink? gems, etc. :D
@nunojaca
@nunojaca Ай бұрын
Hey Lonarra, im a return wow player and have been watching your videos , good job. My question is : as i have no toon on mop remix and to prepare some toons to next expansion, should a make first a BM hunter main in MoP remix, get achivs etc and only then a lvl20 starter edition booster priest to get better stats etc to boost fast my other alts or do you reccomend to just use the lvl20 starter edition booster (without having any main lvl70),quest until lvl20 and start boosting other alts in dungeons 1 by1 ? thanks for your help
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
Get a character to level 70 before you begin boosting on your level 20.
@sublunarra
@sublunarra Ай бұрын
a little tip for wise mari: if you attack him first without getting range aggro, the first attack you do will do full damage because he only puts his bubble up after he's aggroed. on hpriest, i like to use chastise on an add and then at max range use holy fire and it usually gets him down to about 40% before he pulls his bubble up
@Swopz_
@Swopz_ Ай бұрын
same with druid u can talent into starsurge
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
Yea, I did that in the Demon Hunter run, but the Priest run was recorded a few days earlier before I was aware of that.
@CheqmateWoW
@CheqmateWoW Ай бұрын
6:43 Also worth noting, the candelabra on the FAR left hand side after the first boss can be clipped through to out of bounds as well with any class. Can chi-ji there to skip the RP to make the priest run faster. Would require a leap to get the positioning right + clipping through the floor at Harlan instead of up in the library.
@Swopz_
@Swopz_ Ай бұрын
is it worth it skipping most bosses xp wise tho? the only dungeon i can see it be useful is scarlet halls as your alt is just too far away from the 2 last bosses to get credit
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
In most cases yes.
@k8x97
@k8x97 Ай бұрын
About Jandice, if you kill her really fast she might disappear, but you can do AOEs to still cause damage for a brief window and finish her off. I don't know if it's a practical strat or not, it only works sometimes for me because my priest is still weaker than yours. It might be faster though if you can do it consistently. Appreciate the video as always!
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
Yea, I recorded the priest segments a few days before the DH segments, but within the last ~24 hours I've actually found a consistent setup to blast Jandice in seconds before she swaps. I bank up a big Rhapsody for Holy Nova, use Chastise + 1 Empowered Holy Fire on first boss and save the second empowered HF, Shadow Word Pain to pull Jandice, cast Smite, then Holy Fire + Holy Nova. With my priest's current cloak (~1.4k int) this is enough to kill her before the mirror image phase.
@gsgbrowns
@gsgbrowns Ай бұрын
do you queue as tank and then swap back to havoc after entering?
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
It depends. You can do that, and I often do when I'm boosting characters since I have 3 other accounts, and I've primarily been leveling warlocks. Locks can only queue as DPS, so I pick tank on my main account DH and healer on my Level 20 Priest. That said, if you don't have 3 other accounts like me, you can use an additional starter account to fill out your party of 5. In that case you can just use a tank/healer class to handle each role in the queue, which means you can pick DPS on your DH and not have to spec swap at the start of every dungeon.
@OgnenArevski
@OgnenArevski Ай бұрын
Do you switch between heroic leap and blink all the time while boosting 10-70?
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
Depends on how lazy I'm feeling.
@OgnenArevski
@OgnenArevski Ай бұрын
What was the addon called to make fast switches between gems?
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
Narcissus
@ryanrenshaw8572
@ryanrenshaw8572 Ай бұрын
Question - if using a level 20 twink don’t you need to loot to get threads ? Second Question … doesn’t skipping mobs and bosses cost the Alta you are leveling up a lot of experience?
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
Dungeon Completion XP >> one or two bosses worth of XP. As for looting the bosses, yes, you should be doing that on the level 20 twink. Obviously if you're trying to save time looting is inefficient, but I usually loot when running with my 20 twink because that gives them more threads to increase their power in future runs.
@ryanrenshaw8572
@ryanrenshaw8572 Ай бұрын
Ty- that’s gonna speed me up a lot still gonna loot but gonna skip as much trash as possible
@twindenis
@twindenis Ай бұрын
which class other than priest would be best for level 20 trial? curious if DH would still be good at level 20.
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
It is
@twindenis
@twindenis Ай бұрын
@@Lonarra1 Thanks, I notied though he cant get the mastery passive and not benefit from the speed boost on level 20, would maybe monk be better?
@Renzole17
@Renzole17 Ай бұрын
skipping xp tokens is better? cause both monastery dungeons my alt account doesnt get the loot in mail. So I have my alt following me at least near the last one.
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
Yes, the end of dungeon bonus is the most valuable source of XP. If killing a boss is a ~5-10 second detour, it's worth it. Otherwise just finish the dungeon. Realistically that means the only bosses worth killing instead of skipping are Lich Lady in Scholomance (I forget her name, first boss), and Flameheart in TotJS. Skip the rest.
@Renzole17
@Renzole17 Ай бұрын
@@Lonarra1 got it. But what with this two u say I should not skip? too much XP or just cause we can't in the next boss without killing this 2? Thanks 4 answering
@tsubakipog1772
@tsubakipog1772 Ай бұрын
Can u do scholomance without the seesaw? is there any other method there. In addition the fact that the meta gems share cd makes many of these skips so unreliable as they require different meta's and they'll still be on cd
@tsubakipog1772
@tsubakipog1772 Ай бұрын
i suppose just sticking to chi-ji and take the L on oneshitting wise mari
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
Only a few of these REQUIRE the meta gem, like Stormstout. Chiji just saves time wherever it's used, so if it's up you can still do the skip, it just won't be quite as fast. As for Scholomance without the seesaw, other chair toys should achieve a similar effect.
@johangt90
@johangt90 Ай бұрын
Does the starter account have to be on the same server? Can't seem to be able to add him on my main account
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
Yes
@PlantTube.
@PlantTube. Ай бұрын
Is dng boosting a viable method to farm threads ?
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
Yes, it's one of the best ways to farm threads once you've completed all of your dailies.
@maroru4752
@maroru4752 Ай бұрын
Skipping some of these bosses means you get less heroic dungeon XP tokens per run, so for the purpose of boosts would you say getting through dungeons as fast as possible is more efficient than getting an extra token or two?
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
That's correct.
@invincible0522
@invincible0522 24 күн бұрын
So you are saying the skips are not worth it if you are boosting another character?
@jeremygray7492
@jeremygray7492 Ай бұрын
Is it not worthwhile to have the boosted character on follow through the dungeon to get the boss loot bonus xp?
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
No, usually just wastes time.
@Senen33
@Senen33 Ай бұрын
Scholomance has a wallclip to last boss that only requires (afaik) a leap, a blink and chi-ji. So you could probably do it with heroic leap on boots then swap to night fae. But also it’s a shitty trick that if you mess up will get you perma disconnected for a couple minutes. A couple other wallclips are technically doable on other classes (including priest) with a mix of heroic leap+chiji, but it certainly is harder and less consistent. That macro Fel Rush tech though is absolutely wild. Edit: Also, in SSB, you can use the saurok banner/horn to pull the whole room instantly so they run towards you and it’s easier to kill them quickly.
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
Yea, I mentioned the trick you're referring to at the end of the DH Scholomance footage, but like you said it's really finnicky and the fact that failing it gets you stuck in a DC loop is kinda yuck. This strat is only marginally slower (~15-30 seconds at worst) but is infinitely easier to execute.
@Senen33
@Senen33 Ай бұрын
@@Lonarra1 Yeah I just meant to add, it’s probably doable as priest too. But yeah, it sucks, not worth showcasing.
@learnfacts101
@learnfacts101 Ай бұрын
i got 20k threads on my arcane mage twink. gonna make a alliance twink now tho to boost alli chars
@Malrats
@Malrats Ай бұрын
How did you get so many threads?
@learnfacts101
@learnfacts101 Ай бұрын
@@Malrats Playing a lot of heroics, killed some world bosses.. Not many though really. Did a few quests, exploration achievements, killed some rares.
@Dunkedyret
@Dunkedyret Ай бұрын
Why not use your mage for boosting alliance?
@Dunkedyret
@Dunkedyret Ай бұрын
Why not use your mage for boosting alliance?
@learnfacts101
@learnfacts101 Ай бұрын
@@Dunkedyret cuz it's horde
@EternalAngel333
@EternalAngel333 Ай бұрын
i find it funny that the in stormstout you cant leap like that as a normal warrior for some reason tried it many times and just never works with regular warrior leap
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
Yea, a lot of these spots are really janky and require specific abilities.
@alacritysp
@alacritysp Ай бұрын
i was doing dh boosting and while i was clipped out of bounds i saw i had mail from wow dev team, and i was shitting my pants, but it turned out to be just a perky pug, freaky timing though.
@GiantCrow
@GiantCrow Ай бұрын
You actually don't need to blink through in halls, chi-ji can dash through the soldiers at the start after the boss dies.
@angelreyes3085
@angelreyes3085 27 күн бұрын
Awesome. Is Dh lvl 70 Better than 20?
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 26 күн бұрын
With a lot of investment, yes. It's much easier to get a strong level 20 built though.
@kore8902
@kore8902 Ай бұрын
I noticed you didn’t have any jewelry items on your dh is there a reason for that?
@k8x97
@k8x97 Ай бұрын
Apparently because of how scaling works, the gems actually don't make up for the added HP and such to the bosses, so a lot of people take them off for things like Mythic. I keep them on just cause I'm not super hardcore and I hate having unfilled slots lol
@Swopz_
@Swopz_ Ай бұрын
bosses have around 5% less hp without jewelry at level 20, only worth doing when u'r capped on all secondary stats tho, but not really a big deal
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
Honestly, it only really applies to Heroic Raids, it would technically be a ~1% DPS increase for me to use jewelry in these dungeons but it's so marginal that I couldn't be bothered. As for heroic raids, there's a scaling modifier based on your item level, so it's worth it to delete your jewelry as it allows you to do more damage. Like I mentioned before, I only do this for the heroic raid scaling, but I don't feel like going through the effort of repurchasing and re-equipping my jewelry when doing other content.
@FirstNullLast
@FirstNullLast Ай бұрын
You can dispel the slow instantly after water boss. You can also hit the boss to lower their hp significantly without the dmg reduction. But my priest one shots it even in heroic so the doors wont open so use a dot instead if your priest has 3ksh int. So you probably will lose time if your demon hunter one shot it.
@Azeroh
@Azeroh Ай бұрын
dh supremacy
@asrigascanbe
@asrigascanbe Ай бұрын
My mind is blown.... unreal.
@ErgoCogita
@ErgoCogita 26 күн бұрын
How do I breeze past the experience?
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 25 күн бұрын
Not sure I understand the question.
@ErgoCogita
@ErgoCogita 25 күн бұрын
@@Lonarra1 I was just being sarcastic about boosting and missing out on a lot.
@70ki70
@70ki70 Ай бұрын
Did you get the 300k threads by doing this?
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
No
@Amp5150
@Amp5150 Ай бұрын
This seems cool, but in real life do the other people who happen to be in your group not enjoy it and leave party and you lose time fiddling with the que? I don't time my shit but I think my best boost sessions are when I full clear in ways that everyone can loot the wall to wall pulls in a single click. It's still very fast and people tend to enjoy re-que'ing as long as I will continue boosting and feels much smoother than stopping every other run for a new LFG to get built.
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
Doesn't really matter at all. Queues should be instant either way if you have a tank and a healer. I usually boost in a 5 stack anyways, but when I'm boosting as a 3 stack I never care if people leave or stay. If they do, cool, if not it loses a trivial amount of time. Feel free to boost however you want, I'm not knocking it, but yes, the methods shown in this video are faster.
@nikoshur
@nikoshur Ай бұрын
I'm impressed there is no mention to prot warrior lvl 20 twink. With an investment of aproximately 4 hours, and recent buff to threads, you can get around 8k threads through achievements very easily. Warrior have many advantages related to mobility (leap, charge and perma 30% speed ousite stats) and damage (with quick strikes tinker and devastator talent any boss gets literally oneshoted). I agree that with minimal investment holy priest with searing light tinker performs very well when you got a lv 70 by your side, but with a slightly more effort, prot warrior pulls ahead priest and any other class, in my experience. I just did some runs and here are my marks: - Scarlet Halls: 0:54 - Scarlet Monastery: 0:52 - Scholomance: 1:42 - Temple of the Jade Serpent: 1:03 - Stormstout brewery: 2:20
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
Prot is fine, same with Arcane Mage, WW/BM Monk, Paladin, etc etc. There are tons of classes who can clear dungeons slightly faster than priest, that wasn't the point of this video. Hpriest was meant to represent the average clear time, and DH demonstrates the fastest possible clears. Also, to be clear, my DH times aren't even as fast as you can push it, people have gotten the times much lower in some cases. I'm merely showcasing strategies to demonstrate what's possible. There's really no debate that DH is the fastest, but the reason I chose Hpriest as the comparison (aside from the fact that it's what I personally use as a level 20 twink) is that it's the most flexible option for newer players. It lets you queue as healer, which is the fastest role for getting into dungeons (since most people aren't running as a group of 5), and the healing makes it easier to keep yourself alive when you're just starting out. Hpriest is not the second or even third fastest class for dungeons, but it's the most approachable to new players, which is why I've used it as a benchmark in most cases.
@TheGrazyFrogg
@TheGrazyFrogg Күн бұрын
How does warrior get 30% more speed ? :) i want to do your method
@darkain1159
@darkain1159 Ай бұрын
why would you skip bosses if they give u xp?
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
Because the bosses don't give a lot of XP relative to the end of dungeon completion. If killing a boss is only a short detour it's worth it, but if you can finish the dungeon much faster and move onto the next one, that's a more efficient way to level.
@kyleb4151
@kyleb4151 Ай бұрын
Monk brewmaster. With having 3 movment booster skills with cog, touch of death insta killing Wise Mari, and constant uptime amd jade wind aoe, dont see how you can get any better.
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
I mean, Monk is good, but in this video I very clearly demonstrate that you can "get any better".
@xeno24seven
@xeno24seven Ай бұрын
so wait, you dont have your alts following you and looting bosses (with autolooter without xp tokens) ? you just run and kill all bosses, head out and again?
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
That's correct.
@smf3196
@smf3196 Ай бұрын
Windwalker monk queing as tank or healer. Crane meta, feline cog.
@xhlb69x
@xhlb69x Ай бұрын
How do you have over 300k threads on your cloak? I want that kind of power.
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
I just do dailies every day, nothing crazy.
@Dunkedyret
@Dunkedyret Ай бұрын
@@Lonarra1 every single daily or specific ones? I pretty much only do mop remix ones and then trove run
@Benjamin-zu5oc
@Benjamin-zu5oc Ай бұрын
how does the cloak works? like how u get it
@lIIest
@lIIest Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
Have you played MoP Remix yet?
@Benjamin-zu5oc
@Benjamin-zu5oc Ай бұрын
@@Lonarra1 no hahaha
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
You unlock the cloak ~5 minutes after creating a MoP Remix character.
@wtbskilllololo
@wtbskilllololo Ай бұрын
Vid giving me the zoomies.
@lamdgb
@lamdgb Ай бұрын
simply is WAY faster with a priest bcuse the Q times. the only way that doesnt matter is if u have a full group Qing.
@learnfacts101
@learnfacts101 Ай бұрын
Need auto join dungeon addon
@lan9772
@lan9772 Ай бұрын
Ignore the “dh/holy priest only best” I have a 20 prot warr and I can solo every dungeon under 50 sec
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
When did I ever say that only DH/priest could solo dungeons? Obviously 90% of classes can handle it perfectly fine, the point in the video was to compare DH, the fastest spec, to Priests, which represent the average clear time.
@joosf
@joosf 6 күн бұрын
My shaman is way faster 😃
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 6 күн бұрын
Right, your shaman can clip through walls?
@enzoshink7597
@enzoshink7597 Ай бұрын
Uh, the dh wall exploit might be bannable.
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
Out of bounds clips are not bannable, I used tons of stuff like this back during the Challenge Mode days in actual timed runs.
@jimmydance4840
@jimmydance4840 Ай бұрын
First of all, the DH flying through walls is definitely a bannable exploit, just because Blizzard dont really give a F about how most people is playing this mod e and how little effects it has in the overal economy, they still can ban you for something like this. But I think the main issue is the way of most twinks are playing the leveling game right now, when you use Chi-chi in most situation, you are just running past the mobs and your aggro is extremely thin, you just assume the other players queing with you know exactly NOT to touch anything and just run and loot, otherwise they will die. And that's not all, if you will use Chi-chi and skip to the last boss and kill it, there will still be a huge group of trash mobs running towards you at the end, if you leave at that time, well, other players running behind you could just die and they can't even access to the last boss - of course you will assume them to just leave because the boss loots will be in their mailboxes, but that's exactly the point - its been one month after this mode came out, most dedicated and experienced players are done with the bronze, there are actually more casual players now queing in the heroics. So unless you are queing with your 5 accounts everytime, I think many players doesnt really care such way of playing will impact other casual players. Btw, if you are playing with 5 accounts, unless you will use some key binding assist programs (which again is bannable), you will end up spending more time on confirming roles / entering and leaving dungeons everytime. I am also playing lvl 20 twinks to level up my characters (did many already), but eventually I almost completely stopped using Chi-chi for above mentioned reason.
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
Wall clips are not, and have never been, bannable in any way. That's simply misinformation. Also, to be clear, most of these skips are going to be useful for players boosting their own characters, obviously if you want to use it in a public dungeon run it could piss some people off, but it is what it is. Finally, confirming roles for dungeons on 5 different accounts doesn't take nearly as much time as you think it does, and I'm obviously not using input forwarding software since that IS bannable.
@Swopz_
@Swopz_ Ай бұрын
@@Lonarra1 You don't even need any 3rd party software, there are weakauras for that on wago
@Lonarra1
@Lonarra1 Ай бұрын
Depends on what you're referring to. There are weakauras that auto respond to role check, other stuff is harder to do with WAs.
@Swopz_
@Swopz_ Ай бұрын
@@Lonarra1 I meant wa to auto sign up yea, you still need to manually accept the queue pop
@michi-chan859
@michi-chan859 Ай бұрын
1. do u happen to have DH guide? (prob a stupid question) 2. the more i watch these vids the more i think that DH are op compared to other classes
@Malrats
@Malrats Ай бұрын
I’d also love a DH guide.
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