They did last year

As much as I love the Cummins, it’s pretty slow. “Reliability/fuel eco over speed”. The powerstroke and duramax will be a close one though.

JJM 05 true story!

Why though?

@@jeepmanxj why not?

Even used they are over priced.

I used to think that but then I landed a job making 160k a year and they now seem reasonable to me. When I was making 56k I totally agree you can’t afford to buy new trucks

On the 5.0l remove the air filter and it will pick up quite a bit when drag racing

@@cpeete281 lol, also remove oil filter for weight reduction. trust me

Agreed. trucks unless needed for work are a bad financial decision.

yea they quieted it down for 2019 but the older 6.7s are amazing

chadguess44 no, it’s not.

bulldogce I’ve got a 17 6.7 power stroke and it’s still way to quite I feel

Exactly

Nothing beats a naturally aspirated v8 sound

That is MSRP. Ford dealers around me have XLTs like the one in the video for mid to upper 30s. So about 20k off MSRP.

Just do what I did and skip all that extra crap. Get what you need with the STX. I paid under 40k for my truck. 2018 F-150 STX and got all the stuff I wanted in it.

Buy an XL

Even if I had $200,000 to spend I'd get a stripped single cab short bed 4x4 5.0.

@@alexmassey1812 Maybe if it's hail damaged, even with these bloated prices you're not getting 20k off msrp

Do they really have a single cab with a 6 1/2 foot or shorter bed?

@@dedalliance1 yes. you can go to shop.ford.com/build/f150/?gnav=vhpnav#/config/Config%5B%7CFord%7CF-150%7C2019%7C1%7C1.%7C300A.F1C.....SS6.XL9.RCAB.RETAIL.99P.XLT.%5D And build a regular cab 2.7 with 6 1/2 foot bed and 3.73 or 5.0 with 3.55.

easily, i guess until the limited release Syclone comes out.

Over the 3.5 EcoBoost? How so?

PikeChaz1138 Good call! And the 3.5 has the option for a 4.10 rear end.

what a putz right?

What's a zipper pull?

Alan Bowers been dying to find out more info about the 7.3 gasser , hoping they come out with the specs soon

@shamp00p I wonder if Ford is going to sell a crate engine for the 7.3 Godzilla.

it's Designed as a Truck Engine

@@Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V8 Yeah the 8.4L V10 in the Dodge Viper was designed as a truck engine too.

@@TurboDiesel-zf8ph - that new Ford Engine you're referring to, is not a High Performance Engine

Corey Vuagniaux I’m at sea level and my son in laws 2.7 still beats my 5 litre. Both trucks are identical only for engines.

would be nice to get them with all the same rear ends too.

Love the 5.0 growl!

With the same final drive ratio.

Which 3.5 EcoBoost? The regular is 375hp and 470lb-ft while the Limited gets the HO with 450hp and 510lb-ft

PILE OF JUNK - FURD with the endless electrical problems, recalls, bogus #'s showing this sells the most and people always get themselves into DEBT - what idiots

@@mt1885 salty much?

@@mt1885 if you hate Ford's so much why are you watching videos about Ford trucks?

I just bought the identical truck ta weeks ago. Same color and all. Love it

Two

Silvarado __ Nation for real just picked up one a few weeks back I love it

Jigga Grave yeah I raced a 2.7l eco boost 10 speed with a tune and it beat my 4.8l Silverado with full bolt ons and a tune. Their quick

@@brandonbarnwell7992 you need to "bolt on" a turbo!

Darin S haha hell yesss 4.8l on boost would be great 😂

warriorpluto yeah I can agree to a point I got it dyno tuned and it makes 297 torque and 310hp I have the dyno sheet at my house!! It’s a 4.8l with full bolt ons and tuned,built tranny,corvette servo tunes for 91 street gas it’s pretty quick I beat eco boosts but not when they have a tune on them

I have a 2020 and got a bully dog tuner and peddle commander and man it suprises me

Waiting for my tank to empty so i cam try out the 91 octane tune. Currently have only had 87

I've got one. It's mean.

I’ve got one and yeah it’s a lot of fun:-)

rented one last week, that engine is mad fast

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I've got 104k miles on my 2015 FX4 w/2.7L, no problems yet and average 19 mpg. Love it! Mine sounds great because I installed a Borla Ford Performance cat back exhaust system and an A&E cold air intake. FAST! I nicknamed my truck JACK RABBIT! lol!

Brick Mudge that is awesome news my friend, hope mine does as well as yours! Today doing the 30k oil change. I use Pennzoil Ultra Synthetic, every 5k, this is my first Turbo, any advice or care or tips? Put a catch can on it, but 5,000 miles maybe a ounce of oil. Truly love this truck, I’d love to hear your, going check see if you have a video up.

Brick Mudge love the nick name, ain’t named mine yet, I agree though they are fast, had a 67 Mustang with a 289 back in the late 70’s it was quick, think this lil engine would whip it. Have it to brother-in-law month later he wrapped it around a phone pole, he didn’t get a scratch.

@@poppyneese1811 I should do a video. I've thought about it. The catch can/intercooler problem is a thing of the past (pre-2015), from what I understand. I run the (25k oil change) Amsoil Signature Series full synthetic motor oil in mine. I change my oil every 15k miles (because of turbos). I'm getting ready to change everything over to Amsoil, already bought everything, just need to get 'er done! Make sure that you add a high quality fuel conditioner, stabilizer for ethanol to your tank every 5k miles. That is just as important in terms of extending the life of your motor as running clean, high quality oil.

Brick Mudge Thank You!!!

What's your average Hwy Mpg with the 2.7 Ecoboost? Also what rear gear ratio?

@@Mr.Beastforpresident I forget the gear ratio but I get realistically 26-28 hwy.

Will Bailey Nice! What oil you run? Motorcraft Synthetic?

@youtubeshitsorter I’ve got a 2018, 2.7, 3:55, supercab, 2wd that consistently gets 19.8 city/ 25 hiway

Miguel Ramirez agreed I had to settle for the 2.7 ... but when I’m no longer dishing out so much weekly money for daycare for 2 kids it’s either gonna be a 250 blacked out, raptor , or limited

They have those tests too..

PS 25 that’s what I had in mine! Yes, no doubt, especially in the worlds highest city!

You're absolutely right, 5.0's make their power so high that the lower rear gear is a must to get the rpm up there quickly

You guys are all full of it. I own a 3.31 truck and ALWAYS take down my dads 3.73 truck. Both 5.0s. This isn’t the 4 speed days

@@jonathonsmith7694 That's why performance packs run lower rear gears to be slower.....or why trucks can tow more weight with a lower gear. Check the tow charts smart man.

Jonathon Smith I always beat my Dad in drag races too, no matter what I’m driving!

Until the phasers and turbos go

@@jasonfaggard516 ain’t gonna happen

Pretty sure regular cab 5.0 will beat the limited

Maurice Cooper idk about that the limited has 450hp and 510 torque I believe.

@@trailspeed7037 Can't wait to find out check out my KZfaq page I got a 5.0 regular cab it's pretty fast stock for stock with a limited it will be close The biggest advantage is how much it weighs

How much it weighs? Basically the same as the regular lariat 3.5. The regular 3.5 beats the 5.0 all the time, at sea level or altitude. The 450 hp can only be faster. It isn’t a matter of weight, because that will barely change. More hp, more torque, even wider torque band, already. Faster with the base 3.5. Physics, pure physics says it is not possible for the 5.0 to win. Especially if Ford can get their shit together and provide two loaded trucks with the same gears for once. Sorry, I have had and am getting another 5.0 next week because I love them, but the Limited will even beat the 2.7 off the line, let alone the 5.0. This one really IS just science. My favourite, hands down, is the 5.0 with the dealer added, Roush supercharger. Full warranty AND 560 + 640 hp depending on which pulls you chose for boost! I think that could still be considered “stock” seeing as it is sanctioned by Ford enough that they even warranty the truck fully with the option. THEN, the 5.0 won’t be beat again!!! BWAA HAAAA HAAAA HAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! Sorry, got carried away. I want the 5.0 to be the fastest, period. Just needs the supercharger. A friend has one and it is intoxicating how fast it is!

Base model XL is what the everyday blue collar person should be looking at. If they cannot afford that, there are plenty of used trucks everywhere.

@@tedschmitt178 good economic sense says to try avoid purchasing a vehicle that has a total value of more than half your yearly income. The average income in the US is about 54k and the median is in the 40s. How long does it take for a pickup to reach a value on the used market that makes sense to purchase, let alone is actually affordable? The real issue is that every few years the prices have gone up with incomes not following at all. Companies push for lease deals, and we're more and more susceptible to shitty loans, even for used vehicles. It's hard to find a reliable old vehicle when you work 2 jobs, etc. The XL f150 used to be super affordable, now it costs more than half my yearly income without options and I'm constantly told I have a great paying job, etc (truck driver in NY). Let's not even get into cars or real SUVs (not crossovers)

charlie dee it’s actually the traction control pulling out torque to eliminate wheel slip. I have a super duty

@@justinporter7446 traction control AND torque limiting until 4th gear actually

@justin porter He turned off the traction control

they are good in the mustang due to the high redline. if I was going v8 in a truck for towing, it would have to be a big block.

@@rozzbourn3653 Agreed, the GM 6.4L out does it and the 3.5 Twin-turbo when it comes to towing.

"The same gear ratio" is the wrong approach. Each engine must be coupled to the axle ratio that's best able to maximize tractive force (at the contact patch) at all vehicle speeds. Because the 5.0 liter V8 is a higher revving engines, it's best suited to a lower (numerically higher) axle ratio.

Pete shea That would only add to the fact of this point as the tested 5.0 had a higher ratio.

Essential Departure haha exactly. That guy wrote all that and doesn’t know shit. 3.31 vs 3.55

@@peteshea8010 yea the five oh needs all the help it can get to get moving, it’s not that great with low end torque like a truck needs

the rear diff ratio doesnt matter as much with the 10 speed. I think the elevation was the real killer for the 5.0

Yep they should of had the 3.55 in all of them

The computer is torque limiting much more in 2 wheel drive. MFG's don't want the drivetrain torn up and having to do warranty work. The diesels rock.

@@jamescundiff3264 rear gears make alot of difference dude! The 2.7 has a first gear of 8.25 vs the coyotes 8.01! The 2.7 has all of the advantage here with its steeper gearing that allows for a more aggressive take off and the turbos!

@@kevinmckinley512 yeah but your talking .24 of a driveshaft rotation difference which is nothing. The main difference was the 6000 feet of elevation which kills naturally aspirated engines. Elevation doesnt effect turbo engines nearly as bad.

Never! 😁

Rented a 2019 5.0 and if feels worse than a 2013 3.5 ecoboost just isn’t that great for around town driving. Really need to rev it for any power. Turbos just make it effortless on the lights. Makes it feel like it’s not a heavy truck.

you mean DOHC V8

@@chrisxaf1237 na is naturally aspirated. has nothing to do with DOHC.

chris xaf12 no I mean naturally aspirated.

Because who wants to see 3 of the exact same trucks race? These are all about as close as you're going to get across different models. Quit bitching. It's a very minor rear end difference.

lol, How many times have you just been offered a free truck to drive around and race? None? Exactly. They don't get to pick and choose unless they have the money to buy every single vehicle, which they don't.

Good luck getting a manufacturer to give you exactly what you want...

ThePegcitydude - I agree, unfortunately, as is said here, the manufacturers want us to see the various options. It is not TFLs fault at all here. If the manufacturers provided all the same gears, then it would eliminate the debate, to a degree, and the manufacturers don’t want that, they want us talking like this. The 5.0 with 355 gears, all 3 in 4wd (makes it fairer for the SuperDuty because of torque limiting in 2wd), the difference between all 3 would be almost impossible to determine at the end of this track and distance. I am thinking........

Ikr seriously!

James Hart Yeah. At sea level that 5.0 would’ve killed both of the other trucks.

Me too. Mechanics would too because of all the plumbing involved in having a turbo.

the 2.7 EB responds Brilliantly to just an ECU Tune

Long term reliability less problems

2015-2017 F-150 2.7L and 3.5L EcoBoost ROUSH Performance Pac Level 1 $775.99 F-150 2.7L EcoBoost: Peak increase of 33 RWHP and 33 lb-ft RWTQ

Mike Mccabe - I have said that elsewhere too. I didn’t know they now offer over 700 hp though. SUHWEEEETTTT!!! I must admit opportunistically, that since they fully warranty the truck with the supercharged version of the 5.0, that this is a stock motor and, as such, unbeatable by the turbos, tuned or not, 3.5 OR 2.7!!! Hahaha yeah!

Arthur Mendoza that’s the coyote

@@zach5154 no that's the voodoo 5.2

@@drew4769 No, it is a modified (bigger displacement) Coyote with a supercharger. It is not a supercharged GT350 engine. The 5.2 L displacement is a coincidence. The Voodoo is a FPC, the GT500 is a cross plane crank and will not rev to 8000+ RPM. And it is rumored that the Raptor will get the GT500 engine.

@@nathanaelcole8466 I was wrong it's the predator not voodoo

madrx2 well thats his truck so he can do what he wants with it :/

I knowww ☹ I want a Sierra so bad but even after turning down a bunch of perks, the MSRP is still $55K-$60K 😭

Agreed. No way I'd pay those prices even if I did have the extra money. Overpriced to hell. I'll honestly drive an old ass 80s, 90s or early 2000s V8 4x4 for a quarter the cost or less any day. I'll save luxury for a nice car that's even cheaper than those trucks.

My thoughts exactly, I bet it doesn't limit torque as much in 4x4, hence the much better 0-60 & drag times in 4x4

I was just thinking that

lance ripplinger “wazoo” must watch Scotty

Lance That’s why I left dodge and bought a ford, all dodge offered was a limp v6 then next engine was the gas guzzling hemi that needs 89 octane

If the 2.7 was gonna beat the 5.0, the 3.5 would’ve beaten it even more.

Kyle Burdick 2.7 EcoBoost is faster 0-60 then the 3.5. They have done videos in the past

I smoke 2.7s and 5.0s with my 3.5

machfive916 it’s all trucks not just ford

No, you can still get a lower price. Those trucks were loaded.

I bought mine 2018 f150 lariet screw 4x4 for 41k. There's lot of discount on them, especially the XLT 15k off sticker around here easy....

So do the V6 ones.

Tyler Sutton the weight is really what kills it

@@trailspeed7037 i know trust me ive drove the 17 model those things move.

I have a 16 f350 with 1700rpm launch it is a bullet weight is a blessing because anything less than 8k I wouldn't have tires and that's stock I cant wait to program it and def delete it

Bingo. Should be in 4 high and STANDING on both pedals for a good 3 or 4 seconds before launch.

@@jtkoontz69 dude my 2012 4door 8ft bed with a goose neck package and tools in the bed was already running down everything in sight gas or diesel 5.7 titans duramaxs cummins brand new chevy impala 5.4 f150s an alot others on a h&s race tune. So i can imagine what the 16 with bigger turbos will do. Although now i have a sd369 69mm turbo on it and it makes 31 pounds on old tune vs 20 from the vgt turbo cant wait to see after a new custom tune

I've heard that a lot too does the traction control limit it or something?

Spartan 212 I’m pretty sure ford does a torque limiter depending on rpm and speed so even with trac control off it wouldn’t beat either f150

@@trailspeed7037 ya well those trucks aren't build for that. Still think it is nice that the truck can move that fast thou.

Disable traction control and launch in 2nd. It releases the wheel brakes and allows torque to push the gear. Finally spool up that turbo. That diesel will blow the doors off. 4wd likely disables most of the traction control and why it does better.

@@jrwjr Ive seen these guys disable traction control and enable 4wd on the F150s. Seem to really help i didn't know it do good on the F250s. Does it just deliver the power better or it helps moves truck faster?

Jesse Urane about the same 0-60 time as the diesel. 7-8 seconds

Trust me they were its bc their fords

From the factory the 2.7 is faster, but if you tune both of them, the 3.5 is faster

Pretty sure they raced them all awhile back and the 3.5 was the fastest

I was wondering the same thing Jimmy tractor!!! Woulda been nice to see that motor!

Cause it'll mop the floor

Actually the 2.7 is still quicker than the 3.5 ec. See TFL 5 star f150 comparison at the drag race track.

The 2.7L’s power and torque peaks way lower in the power curve than the 3.5L. It actually is better off the line than the 3.5L.

2.7 is quicker stock vs stock, but a tuned 3.5 is the fastest truck engine out there for less than $1000 in mods.

Limits boost aka power

Sure, until you bring LS into the picture 😂

Yeah those 2018+ 5.0s are real reliable lmao

@@mitch9521 but the engine knock and high oil consumption is normal,, 😝

3/4 ton trucks... with equal gear ratios

What about all the torque..in 2WD the wheels would slip so much easier. Remember...930 ftlbs of torque...a lot of twist

@@mikefoehr235 I didn't hear any wheel spin and they didn't say that they had any. But we do know for sure that putting any modern truck in 4WD is basically like pulling the ABS fuse. Traction control, stabikitrak, etc is disabled.

@@mikefoehr235 the TorqueShift transmission in the powerstroke has torque management in lower gears similar to the Allison transmission. It pulls a ton of power out in the lower gears. There's no way to disable it without aftermarket tuning.

@@genek121973 gotcha. All normal ABS related traction control should be off though, which makes a big difference.

Yep. Turbos have a limited lifespan, and it's not nearly as long as your typical engine.

@@generalkayoss7347 hmm dunno bout that. still have a 03 wrx that has been to the track multiple times and driven very hard on the street. stock turbo and fine

@@dbswagon Go put in on a dyno. You've lost power because your turbo has degraded.

@@dbswagon It's simple mechanics. Bearings wear out, especially when spinning at high RPM's like a turbo. No if's and's or but's about it.

@@generalkayoss7347 There are a lot of components that wear out that contribute to loss of power. That being said, it was just on a dyno 1.5 yrs ago and maybe lost 5 hp.. every case will be different. but n/a engines lose power too over time

Agreed. Makes even more of a difference on the turbo trucks.

Brake boost, yes. To the floor, no. Maybe 1800 to 2200 RPM would be my guess. I brake boost my 3.5 eco in my SHO to that. Anymore and it wants to start moving and will have too much wheel spin. It also won't build more boost at 3000 RPM than it was at 2500 RPM so modulating wheel spin is key to a good launch. A few little chirps from different tires at different times is ideal.

@@nathanaelcole8466 It's not a diesel....I'm in a 7.3 w/banks kit. In a drag race yeah cuz crreeps forward, but just for a hard launch, just mash em til the brakes start to loose the battle and drop it. You think it will loose traction in 4wd or something?

@@nathanaelcole8466 Ecoboost sho? Did not know those were 4wd.....

@@jeffringer530 all time awd. It will still break them loose though.

I’m sorry to hear that. I do like that engine ...

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My thoughts exactly....they need to learn how to build boost for a real launch

Allen Spark if the tires ain’t barkin in 4hi you doing it wrong

US prices, but they knock 15-20k off

@johnny V Ha another classic “ but what about those turbos going out” The 2.7 was designed for turbos and are still on the road since 2011. The car engine in a truck 5.0 was just re introduced in 2018 and is failing, Burns a lot of oil and it likes to knock. But please keep buying that engine, mechanics need your money

@@paulhunter9613 I'm a Mechanic. Any naturally aspirated gas engine made with the same quality parts as a boosted variant will last longer. It's not an opinion or viewpoint to argued it's been proven for 50 years

@@2A372C interesting opinion