The whole Dora - mathematician debating idea is a fantastic way to question things without coming across negative. Well-played.

i think this expansion has the potential to be the "least noob-friendly" or "least free to play friendly" one in a while if not ever

Even as a super free to play player, I dont think "having to collect the entire set for a different class" is gonna be all that expensive. It's all worth the double utility

my main issue with tourist is I now feel like I have to collect cards for a class I really don't care about. I got through showdown and whizbangs without having to disenchant the odd legendary from another class while still being able to collect the whole set for my main class, this allowed me to occasionally play fun decks from other classes with legendaries I enjoyed (i.e. scuffed headless horseman DK). If ranked ladder requires me to find the dust for 2 extra legendaries and probably 2-3 epics to complete the tourist class as well as my main class I feel like I'm either going to have to spend more money on the game, which I'm unwilling to do, or disenchant a lot of legendary and epic cards from other classes, greatly reducing the decks I can throw together when I just want to play casual stuff.

I think Dora had a good point this time. Such tactics are not beneath the Hearthstone dev team 😔

Deck-building by itself can be a source of fun. These new Legendary Tourist cards allow for you to get creative with your deck-building (just as Genn and Baku do, for the next few weeks). Instead of making a "Genn DK" deck, you can make a "Buttons DK" deck with some of the "allowed" Shaman cards. The "allowed" cards are the key limitation (from the set allowed), but instead of adding pre-approved Dual-Class cards, you can add "allowed" cards of various rarities. This can include cards you think would be better with a different Hero Power. Dora's criticism comes before we even get a chance to see half of the new set.

I think what Dora says sounds reasonable! I was sbout to pre-oder this expansion, yet I gave up that idea after watching your video. Thank you for your analysis and for your work!

Great breakdown. Thanks for the high quality videos, especially given your circumstances!

I believe the "Tourist" concept is quite interesting, but using the dual-class cards as comparison doesn't seem quite right, since the cards just mostly tries to merge the identity/concept of both classes, while the Perils in Paradise allows to borrow the characteristics of the other class, although in a more controlled, flexible way. Also I won't say much more until the Expansion comes out, since there are still more cards to be revealed and the mini-set as well, I wanna see how well this will shake the meta. For this Discussion, I take side of Bot Mathematician & Holomancer, I like the new ways to play the game, as well I always dreamed of something like that, as one class "borrows" the characteristics of other, I hope the Tourists are a beginning of something more refined later on.

Calling the theme "for kids" seems a bit, well childish. I think it's fun and follows the 10 year anniversary celebrations somewhat. Also isn't it boring if every set would be "wow cool fighting sequence art" on every single card? The tourist cards are more interesting than the old dual class cards as well. And it's way too early to say if it's a good or bad set imo. If anything I think there are some strong cards revealed so far.

You're both right! This kids theme expansion is gonna break the meta

A beach is the easiest place to jump the shark. At this point, Hearthstone feels like a parody of itself.

I think it's somewhere in the middle I believe it is going to be change for future expansions but also like Dora said it's kind of a hidden way to force players to buy cars from another class.

The most different thing about turist is the thing you cant discover cards from another class, only thing to access is deck building

The theme of course remains lighthearted, nothing mindblowing like MTG keywords provide.

I'm not smart I just play sets with themes I find fun I'm just here to collect cards and when I can afford it and feel really passionate for theme buy a set pass. This set a lot of fun theme wise and the mechanics and meta I'm not smart enough to critique

Something very important that you didn't mention was the impact of Whizbang as an expansion. You say "traditionally" the first set is a lower power level because of rotation and the second set is meant to power things back up. However, that isn't what happened with Whizbang, it drastically increased the power level of standard despite a rotation and required a record amount of nerfs. I don't think any other expansion in hearthstones history caused as many nerfs as Whizbang. Now Perils is looking to spike that power level again with very clearly pushed aggressive options. I don't think it will be unreasonable to expect similar nerf waves being required. On that note, Dual-Class cards being nerfed often feels pretty bad because it rarely is nerfed because of both classes. Usually one class is abusing it and the other suffers for it. That is now taken to the extreme with Tourists. One card could be fine for its class but because another class has access to it the main class might suffer. Instead of nerfing one dual-class card, card changes can have drastic impact on the viability of multiple cards from two classes at once. If druid abuses mage cards, mage has to suffer for it? Or what if one nerf makes a tourist no longer worth playing, but then that makes the Tourist and the additional class cards a loss of potential dust. The system on paper seems like an interesting test, the mixing of classes as a whole. However It is almost certain to be detrimental to players and the health of the game the way its being implemented. This is ontop of one of the worst themes to a set I have ever seen. I don't think anything tops Stormwind yet in being the worst expansion, but Perils makes it seem like they are trying really hard to top it.

"Another expansion for kids" - Dora representing the young gamers who only just left childhood behind or older gamers who never grew up?

Dora is the only logical one in the whole video.

I love Dora’s segments lol

I believe that if tourists were a gamemode where you could combine any cards from two classes, it would be much more fun, even in standard. But instead we get less options which will be stale firever as new cards of Perils won't be printed after a miniset.

I am LITERALLY NEVER going to use tourist cards.

Lynessa isn't an underwhelming card, it can make lightstick hit face for 8, make sea shanty fill board with 5/5 minions, have prismatic beam deal 6 to enemy board, kill 4 enemy minions with the snatch and grab rogue spell, with the drink and fancy packaging card give divine shield and 5/6 in stats for just 2 mana. Paladin has many 2 or less buff cards that can go hard if left even for one turn.

Definetely looking forward to it. And i like the summer theme 😊 it will depend on how good the other cards for each class will be. Whizbangs Workshop is a very good imho and it's not necessary to completely change the game with this new expansion.

100% with explorer, now if you play tournaments instead of 3 decks now you need carda for 6, even if you enjoy 2 or 3 decks as a F2P, gonna have to craft double the amount.

I would always assume the worst when it comes to Blizzard.

I agree with both actually .. and I’m someone who buys both preorder bundles and have played for a decade. Overall though, I side ultimately with bot mathematician

Fun wild ! Or go home! Sometimes a cartoonish set is okay, but I'm interested in more mature card art. -free to play player

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That location legendary is going to be insane in handbuff decks, not excited to see Paladin run rampant

I like the concept of tourists. The dual class mechanic was my favorite reason to play duels and now they added them after deleting duels. I would have liked if you could use them for every expansion but this could have been very chaotic for wild

I mean, they cloud Just haver been dual class card with no tourist

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I would say that holomancer and not mathematician are correct

Dora is right. Hearthstone has made a board for each expansion for 10 years except for this one. YOU HEARD THAT RIGHT! THERE IS NO BOARD DESIGN FOR THIS EXPANSION! 🤬

But Druide can't use Raylla no ? Am I wrong ?

Лайк, дякую за контент. Так тримати

Hey look! I want to use that cool Rogue card in my Paladin deck! What do you mean I can't just craft it? Oh, because in order to use Rogue cards, I need to craft Lynessa as well. Oh, but I don't care about recasting 2 or less cost spells... and I would rather not cough up the dust for a legendary when I just want to play 2 copies of a common card I got in my packs... welp, guess I can't play that cool Rogue card. ... Oh, I somehow opened Lynessa in my packs! Cool, let me play that Rogue card in my Paladin deck! ... {Draws Lynessa in a deck that doesn't have 2 cost or less spells} ...

crazy math going on here

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Yeah, I just uninstalled. I am not comfortable with the fast peace the new expansions are. Every 2 months a new expansion comes and I don't have resources to keep up.

Well I think this new expansion and time is bad 3 Reasons - You need to craft each turist if you want to play combinations. - Some previous patch stop the farm exp in adventure mode. *I know why the devs made this decision, but i think it's not too good. - The events of resources or cards and other things are usually in the mid o end of the expansion. Now we can obtain 6 cards of FIzbang, but the problem is... why not new packs? or may be before (or more time and more points)?

Filler season

Dora is too negative.

Since Nathria, i find 90% of the expansion boring. The 10 year anniversary can bring something that i will love for sure. But it will not be Perils in Paradise. The idea is really cool, but the execution is very meh. In the end, i think Dora is right.

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Dora is right, the set is doomed.

its not the WORST SET but its still pretty bad. this expansion is prob the most expensive tho.

This expansion plus baku and gen will ruin this season

Dora is right.

They have been remaking and remaking and remaking and callbacks and more callbacks from past expansions mechanics and keywords they have also been playing on people nostalgia 6 years by now..... it is a travesty

Is it the worst expansion in the history of the game .. no i dont think so, it may not even be on top 5 worst. but its a bad expansion so far everything is meh no cool cards that make it look unique. Like frozen Thrones or kobolds and catacombs... Yet Hearthstone is leaning towards Kids theme expansions. I don't hate it but I would like some bad ass cards an hero portrait from the WOW universe. Ones in awhile.

This game still exists?

I am not a big fan of the theme itself.

I quit this game a while back and I just log in to open some packs from time to time game have been drifting away from what it used to be every expansion has the same cycle print broken cards with OTK and fast games act surprised nerf around the main issue and act surprised again buff useless cards which won't do anything nerf more stuff release a new expansion rinse and repeat.. yeah they just care about everyone's money the gaming spirit is gone unfortunately

"Heartstone is dying" - haters, all time since 9 years ago

Nothing. We have just seend like 30% of the set, and set is looking promissing. I am tired of this bullcrap clickbait videos..

The set is not out and they arredy say is bad? Too so my frend

These three tourist cards are very weak! All paladin cards are weak and stupid! Finally, the mage got good cards... the rogue got a legendary one that will break the game in standard mode because of Tess.

Why not voice the videos yourself? Do you an Indian accent or something, only then AI is better.

crap exp. .. the game become more and more trash

I don't think theme is a matter of taste. Its clearly cringe, lazy writing, bad acting, and horrible card design. Its made by children for....older children? idk

damn this video is a downer lol

One big difference between dual class and the tourists is that the cards you put in your deck from another class are still fundamentaly not considered cards from your class so cards that sinergizes with playing stuff from another class will work with them even though the cards started in your deck. From example there is a neutral 3 mana 3/4 on the new set that say "your cards from another class cost 1 less" and i think this card will have a big impact in good the tourists will actually be.

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