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2 жыл бұрынWhat's wrong with my custom Royal Enfield 650 Interceptor?? I recently picked up my newly customised Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 after almost a years wait to get the job done.....trouble is, not all is quite as I would have liked about the bike.....let me explain....
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@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Please folks no more about the number plate! I said in the video I'm changing it - I know silver on black is not legal, I rode the bike three times like that - once from the shop, this ride, and then when I took it back to the shop for the rework (where it's been for the last month)....the numberplate is being relocated and replaced!
@jonnycando 2 жыл бұрын
@matt Harvey We have to live under a rock to avoid the karens of the world!
@benprendergast6558 2 жыл бұрын
Great looking bike
@chrishart8548 2 жыл бұрын
The bike looks old in style so very likely it could get away with a black and silver plate.
@ozzyprogdomino8815 2 жыл бұрын
@matt Harvey would it not be a Darren (or what ever the male equivalent would be) MDF may know the stat's, but I do not think many women would be interested in the number plate on his bike.
@BibtheBoulder 2 жыл бұрын
So much promise turning into a lot of "not what I expected". Reminds me of my ex wife....
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Oh dear….
@BibtheBoulder 2 жыл бұрын
@johnjfab ...and it still does...(insert angry face here)
@jamesmcguckin6288 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 I love your wife analogy. Me too lol 😂
@BibtheBoulder 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmcguckin6288 Yes, I seem to have hit a nerve. Only yesterday I mused that "but for maintenance payments I would have a luxury flat in Sandbanks and a Rolls parked outside of it"....such is life....
@jamesmcguckin6288 2 жыл бұрын
@@BibtheBoulder As Forest Gump says, Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what your gonna get 😊
@ChristopherD-M 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you’re considering changing the TMF logo on the side. I think a stitched logo in the seat would be much classier!
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed 100%
@tubemeikel 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer The three letters are out of scale. The idea itself isn't bad, me thinks. But as "TMF" already features on the number plate your logo on the side panel should be enough.
@taebert 2 жыл бұрын
I think I agree. The TMF on the side is a little large. I think the letters should be closer to the size of the lettering on the tank. I also agree that stitching on the back of the seat would add a real aire of class.
@barrykingsley8045 2 жыл бұрын
The first thing I thought on the reveal was how tacky the decal was. I would've duplicated the original Interceptor one albeit in gold. I think you are being generous with the appraisel of workmanship as many things appear sub par. I agree with the idea of a small rear mudguard, would finish the rear end nicely with the number plate put there also. Overall the bike looks great and I like the look of the Baak pipes personally. Just a shame The Bike Den took it upon them selves to not follow your specs more closely. Interested to see the follow up video re costs. Have a great day!
@EnglishmanAbroad 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree. I though the logo on the side cover was not just too big, but would be better if it were completely gone. Keep it clean and elegant. The green is such a wonderful colour.
@stevecolwill9761 2 жыл бұрын
The first thing I noticed was the right hand mirror wobbling about. Everybody is different but I have never been into custom bikes, especially if it means going without your bike for as long as you have and the lack of QC there appears to be. Fair play to you though Andy for sharing all the annoyances.
@rudolphcarr 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I would not have taken it back to the same place. If they made these mistakes to begin with probably not equipped to fix them.
@bloodrunneruk71 2 жыл бұрын
If you want something done right do it yourself, nobody doing the job for you is going to be as passionate about the bike as the owner. Plus the reward of achievement having done a good job yourself and you will gain a conection with the machine when you know every nut and bolt.
@RobVespa 2 жыл бұрын
This may be an axiom, but it's flawed logic. The universal "you" isn't capable of doing everything well, no matter how passionate. Then there's the mental (or literal) cost benefit analysis. Now, the working on your bike and knowing it - Well, that I agree with.
@edwardroberts8761 2 жыл бұрын
True. I'm a qualified motorcycle mechanic but I cannot work on a Vespa.
@leanatale7251 2 жыл бұрын
Great job! except for the mirrors, exhaust, indicators, and signage. Not much wrong with a standard interceptor.
@sscbkr48 2 жыл бұрын
It's a disease I tell ya, never leaving well enough alone.. I eyeballed mine for about a week and then borrowed a single saddle from a suzuki, built a custom carrier, painted the fenders then lowered both sets of pegs moving them dwn and fwd a few inches for happier ergos. It actually looks pretty good. 😍
@chrishart8548 2 жыл бұрын
@@sscbkr48 it's so hard not changing things on motorbikes tailtidy exhaust. Comfy seat. Different screen. Spotlights. Crash bars. Crash bungs, it never ends really. Carbon fibre mudguards. Lightweight wheels. Full acro + re-map. I have to just leave mine as is and hold the line its a slippy slop otherwise
@leanatale7251 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrishart8548 how strange! , I've owned loads of bikes in the last 20 years, both old and new, neve have felt the need to customise any of them.
@chrishart8548 2 жыл бұрын
@@leanatale7251 you escaped the marketing. Well done. I thought KTM bikes already had all the cool stuff until I saw the add on catalogue.
@leanatale7251 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrishart8548 😂🤣
@longnetter 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree about the back end. At the moment it looks like a wall of death bike without a mudguard and would look perfect with the same set up as the triumph 👍.
@G58 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like a field bike. Cheap and wrong.
@R1Mc 2 жыл бұрын
There is a more precise explanation about the tyres and tread patterns and why some may think they could be fitted the wrong way. The tread pattern is set for water dispersion and has to be at right angle to the primary force that the particular wheel has to deal with. That being front wheel for braking and rear wheel for acceleration, hence the tread pattern will be opposite. Hope that helps👍
@richbrock9876 2 жыл бұрын
The difference between built not bought brought fully into focus here Great video 🏆
@jamesbarrie2458 2 жыл бұрын
The interceptor is a great looking bike straight out the factory and while this one looks different it is certainly no improvement - all a matter of taste I suppose.
@ThiefOfNavarre 2 жыл бұрын
Apart from maybe a fork upgrade I'm quite happy with mine in its sunset strip paint scheme. It will be interesting to see how all the chrome holds up over the winter
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s a huge improvement! …and I like the original bike too…
@jamesbarrie2458 2 жыл бұрын
It would be pretty boring if we all liked the same thing, if you're happy with it that's all that matters
@chrishart8548 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer the green and the gold wheels and the tyres are great. Just needs a few practical tweaks. I think a lot of the cost was labour houres. But the guys need paying and customised bikes are time consuming.
@Antony-kn5kl 2 жыл бұрын
I see it’s now listed for sale on the bike den’s website - shame you’re getting rid, any plans for a replacement?
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
No it's not for sale - I don't like that the Bike Den are using it like that on their website and have told them so. I never intend to sell the bike!
@carllewis1691 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer it is listed there for sale POA as of today
@greentrumpet 2 жыл бұрын
@@carllewis1691 Still on their site as for sale, they claim it's only done 1 mile!!
@robbateman7987 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer It is still on their web site, you will have to tell them again Andy.
@Sprig55 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s quite poor / sad that you’ve paid all that money and still don’t have a bike you’re 100% happy with (you’ve come across more positively on bikes that you’ve just borrowed for testing for example). Considering how long they had it, there seems to have been a lack of communication somewhere if you’ve ended up with items that aren’t correct / poor quality or that you didn’t ask for. It looks great overall though and I’m sure you’ll get it sorted to your satisfaction. Thanks for your honest video 👍🏻
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
I’m hoping it’ll get sorted - the issues are all about communication….
@KaneTerry 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer or lack of
@G58 2 жыл бұрын
He’s massively overcompensating. That thing is not only wrong and a total mess, he got ripped off financially, they failed to carry out his instructions, and the mirrors and indicators don’t even work! That’s basic stuff that any fool could get right. But the crowning glory in terms of being ripped off is those exhausts! £1000 EACH??? What an absolute mug. It wouldn’t cost any more to have bespoke exhausts constructed out of stainless and then matte PVD coated. Everything that’s been done to ruin that bike could have been done in a shed in less than a month by anyone with an eBay account. But surely he must realise that by now. And milking this sad episode by teasing his fans with a separate vid to reveal the full cost of his mistake, is yet another mistake. Andy should just name and shame his co-conspirators in this debacle (so that we can all avoid them like the lazy parasites they obviously are), and move on, but not until he’s explained why he went with a vindaloo evacuation coloured DOUBLE seat - when he’s eliminated the rear foot pegs…? Simply unbelievable.
@martinowl 2 жыл бұрын
A bit harsh but I can see where your coming from. The point regarding twin seat no rear foot pegs, I am correct in believing mot failure when the time comes? Hope the pegs can be easily refitted.
@G58 2 жыл бұрын
@@martinowl I was being honest. Yes, I believe you are correct. Any motorcycle with the capacity to carry two people must be fitted with pillion footrests. This whole debacle is an object lesson in how NOT to do ANY part of customising a bike, both from a customer and workshop point of view. Oh, and I believe that number plate might also be illegal!
@memsybabe 2 жыл бұрын
Whilst I like the look of the bike, gotta say, the parts used look like eBay specials. Nothing wrong with that if you're doing the job yourself at home, but if you're paying good money for this custom, you'd kind of expect better quality. Reminds me of my Virago custom, but I did that alone, in the shed, at the bottom of my garden. I mean, if someone's getting paid for their work, you'd think they could splash out the 2 quid on some Loctite to stop things falling off after a week...
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Yes agreed 100% - the bike shouldn’t look cheap after what I paid! I’ll get it sorted….
@ianbartlett8630 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Sons of Accountancy Harley owners that just throw money at the custom catalogue but nobody can tell the difference.
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Well it looks different to how it started to me! Detecting a bit of jealousy there me thinks.....
@therise7760 2 жыл бұрын
instead of black tape around the tank, I had some black vinyl strips that gripped onto the edge of an after market windscreen I got once. flexible enough that it moulded to the contours. something like that could work.
@davidbesant 2 жыл бұрын
Yeh. I've used that since the 80's. Surprised it's not used as standard.
@trevorphillips3055 2 жыл бұрын
You beat me to it! Just what I was going to suggest ☺👍
@terriwestbrook2039 2 жыл бұрын
Hi was just wondering about the black with white numbers on your number plate wanted to do it on my bike but police said it was illegal?? have I miss a law change about number plates ? Was going to do it on my W800 kawasaki
@leslieaustin151 2 жыл бұрын
@@terriwestbrook2039 No, the fuzz were quite correct, if the bike was registered after a certain date (can’t remember when but 20 or so yrs ago at least). Why would anyone want to black out the rear of their bike when a reflective no. plate is a safety feature? Les
@terriwestbrook2039 2 жыл бұрын
@@leslieaustin151 but the TMF plate is black with white letters on his royal enfield which is not over 20 years old ??
@SuperTurbotim 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I simply cannot believe they didn't properly tighten the mirror and rear indicators. I agree with you on all the points and this further concreates my intention to help people modify bikes. I work full time and still would've finished your bike in half the time they took and to spec!!
@Charlie-lz2uz 2 жыл бұрын
Still think you should have had a go doing this yourself and just out sourcing the paint work 🤷♂️. There's a lot wrong with it really considering.
@gurbie 2 жыл бұрын
I started riding before turn signals were standard equipment. Back in the day, the hand signal for a right turn was left arm up in a 90 degree bend at the elbow. Beautiful bike, looks like fun!
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense!
@TheRealChetManley 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a beautiful build. It’s very unique, retro and custom. I think it looks awesome. Once you get the few tweaks done to it it’s going to be really sweet. Keep making videos on it. Ignore the haters.
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I certainly will - she's a work in progress and I love the overall look! Looking forward to getting her back fully tweaked....
@EnglishmanAbroad 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Andy Interesting to learn your experiences of getting a bike customised. I got in touch with a local outfit to mod up one of my old bikes - they were starting at €12000 and I would expect you paid something similar. Sorry to say, but the first thing that jumped out to me on the reveal was the fantastic green/gold colour combo, followed almost immediately by - oh god, why has he put that awful enormous logo on the side cover??? The bar end mirrors definitely are not up to snuff. I put Halcyon bar end mirrors on my INT650 (from Hitchcocks, before Brexit screwed up getting parts into Germany) - and they are absolutley the best - look good and give a great rearward view. Keep up the good work!
@satchitysatch 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely wee bike, the mirror and the rear winners being a bit loose are just teething issues, totally agree on the rear mudguard and number plate and the black around the edge of the tank, for me I would have rather seen more alloy and chrome for that style rather than doing lots of bits in black but that’s just my taste, hope you get it sorted and enjoy many runs on it😀😎😃
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@DR-lg6xr 2 жыл бұрын
as far as i am aware a vehicle less than 40 years old has to have a yellow reflective number plate..... that black number plate is illegal and plod will fine you if they stop you...... but obviously the chances of that happening are quite remote...... but they are getting hotter on the number plate issue ......just saying
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Yes that is defo one of the changes that’s being made….
@garypunter412 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer as far as I am aware, the number plate should be lit by a white light. From the video I cant see any light pod for the plate. Maybe something else to change Andy. Love the looks overall mate.
@davem3008 2 жыл бұрын
Thought it looked awsome on the reveal vid. Bit of a shame it didn't live up to expectations.... its a good advert for doing what you can by yourself where possible!
@jjnewman65 2 жыл бұрын
Good Morning Andy, This really video really teaches you how a customers relationship and communication with a custom shop is so important when going into a project like yours. I think one needs to be so on top of what exactly you want modified otherwise there can too many grey areas which results in the technician carrying out his own take on what you want. A lesson to be learned here i believe is to use a custom specialist which is local to you. This way you can drop in regularly to check and discuss the build as it takes shape. I’m not sure why the guys fitted £1k worth Baak pipes when you were happy with the TecBike silencers? I love the bike but all the points you make I agree with especially the need for a tail and those bar end mirrors not fitted correctly. That’s sloppy work. I look forward to the next vid with the corrected mods done for you.
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
So do I Jamie - the bike has been back at the workshop a month now and I’m told progress is good 🤞
@G58 2 жыл бұрын
If we are honest, Andy is massively understating the situation. That thing is not only wrong and a total mess, he got ripped off financially, they failed to carry out his instructions, and the mirrors and indicators don’t even work! That’s basic stuff which any fool could get right. But the crowning glory in terms of being ripped off is those exhausts! £1000 EACH??? What an absolute mug. It wouldn’t cost any more to have bespoke exhausts constructed out of stainless and then matte PVD coated. Everything that’s been done to ruin that bike could have been done in a shed in less than a month by anyone with an eBay account. But surely he must realise that by now. And milking this sad episode by teasing his fans with a separate vid to reveal the full cost of his mistake, is yet another mistake. Andy should just name and shame his co-conspirators in this debacle (so that we can all avoid them like the lazy parasites they obviously are), and move on, but not until he’s explained why he went with a vindaloo evacuation coloured DOUBLE seat - when he’s eliminated the rear foot pegs…? Simply unbelievable. The worst one I’ve ever seen.
@G58 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer Don’t ever go into business Andy, you will lose everything. They daw you coming a mile off. But why did you pay the bill? I would be suing them for breach of contract. My brother is like you. He took his 911 to a specialist for a service, and they hit him with a £6,000 bill! They claimed that the disks were pitted. But since the car hadn’t been driven, all they needed was skimming. The list of parts is extensive, but they only offered a discount on two. They were the ones that can be exchanged for reconditioned parts. He paid for new! But his failure was not negotiating a much better deal. I’ve costed those jobs at less than £4,000 including labour, but many could have been done at home for £2,000. Allowing those fools to take your bike for another month is just dumb. None of the issues you described would take longer than a couple of days to sort.
@jjnewman65 2 жыл бұрын
@@G58 Some very harsh but fair words stated in this post. I do hope Andy can get a fair resolution to all his issues he has had with this build.
@G58 2 жыл бұрын
@@jjnewman65 Thank you. I’m not sure at what point it was decided all bikers have such fragile egos that it’s imperative to heap praise upon everyone’s bike, regardless of how badly it was designed and constructed by the manufacturer, or how badly it’s been butchered by some deluded fool in his shed. But the ones most worthy of criticism are the greedy, taste and integrity deficient fools that have jumped on the custom bike fad - without any idea how to do it, and their goat like victims who refuse to admit, even to themselves, what’s really happened. When I bought my first Honda CB250G5 in 1977, my Suzuki, Yamaha and Kawasaki two stroke owners ridiculed me mercilessly for my choice, criticising its power, handling and looks. So I spent a few weekends gas flowing the head, increased the compression ratio, polished the combustion chambers and exhaust ports, added bigger jets, played with the timing, and fitted Harris exhaust, Girling rear shocks, preloaded the fork springs, and fitted Avon Roadrunners. That shut them up as convincingly as I shut them down on the road. But those were the days when we owned one bike and it wasn’t a leisure choice! Take a look at 46 Works to witness bike customisation at its very best. I have no idea how much Shiro Nakajima charges for his wonderful creations, but I guarantee it’s worth every penny.
@juro6 2 жыл бұрын
Nice build. Definitely get the "TMF" stitched onto the seat. Also - in my opinion - remove the "TMF" part from the logo on the side panels, and have just the bike from the logo slightly smaller. Pet peeve of mine are bar end mirrors - I just don't like them.
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Other than the mirrors we are in agreance then.
@arsenvokrug4198 2 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with you on the mirrors. Never wanted them, never had them - they just look and feel all wrong to me!
@juro6 2 жыл бұрын
@@arsenvokrug4198 not everyone can have our impeccable taste ...
@steamixion 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer Eye level mirrors with clear view much safer.
@noelenejeffries6264 2 жыл бұрын
Andy, agree about the rear of the bike. It's crying out for a mudguard,. Doesn't need to be large but big enough to give some protection and balance the look of the bike. Would look good colour-matched to the front guard. As for indicators might be worth considering those on the the 350 meteor; they are black and bullet- shaped. Cheers.
@LambChopRides 2 жыл бұрын
I do agree Andy and for me loose the TMF logo off the side, does look naff. Also agree on the rear end, for the tank what about a rubber trim along the edge?
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve since put black tape on and it’s fine (although I might change it to a rubber strip once I get the bike back). Oh the irony of you saying I should lose the logo!!! I do agree though, looks naff….
@stephenwilliams8592 2 жыл бұрын
I think with the side panel remove the tmf but keep the logo and if they do the stitching in the seat you will then have a touch of TMF on more of the bike which could bring it all together astetically I also agree with your vision for the rear end 😉
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Glad we concur!
@jonathanevans1305 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how you spec a custom job, but I would have thought that they would have examples of the parts they fit so you can see the quality and select accordingly. Is that not the case? I also think that I wouldn’t have paid and taken the bike away if they’d done things I hadn’t asked for, and/or hadn’t done things I had asked for until it was rectified to my satisfaction.
@clivelockwood3236 2 жыл бұрын
hi Andy, love the channel and the interceptor but cant help thinking it was a better looking bike before the work, the back end lets it down big stye.
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Fair enough.
@charlessmillie8774 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with everything you said especially the side panel logos TO BIG. Love the wheel colour 👍 Chas.
@clvrswine 2 жыл бұрын
*too
@charlessmillie8774 2 жыл бұрын
@@clvrswine lol oh yeah thanks 😊👍
@stevesteve1965 2 жыл бұрын
Motone customs would be a good place for all the parts you are displeased with and want to change.
@davebethell1 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, I looked at the Tecbike Parts indicators but thought that they looked cheap. I opted for the Motone indicators for my Street Twin, which are great quality and look amazing. Well worth the extra money in my opinion.
@notstevelam 2 жыл бұрын
@@davebethell1 they are cheap. most of it is rebranded chinese stuff.
@Kim_Miller 2 жыл бұрын
When I read the video title the first thing I went looking for is those valve caps. Looks like somebody stole them when you were parked up at the pub or somewhere. :)
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
I binned them as soon as I got home....
@jonathanevans1305 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer can’t believe they put those on. Tacky tat.
@misterborntodrill4167 2 жыл бұрын
Do they do a MOT before they send it back? What would happen if out the door, you get pulled over by plod?
@acopernic 2 жыл бұрын
The back end needs definitely a final touch integrating the license plate. Still.. A pretttttty nice bike..👍👍👍👍
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@randersson3672 2 жыл бұрын
So TRUE
@jinxymcjinxface6133 2 жыл бұрын
Shame Andy to have waited so long only to be disappointed. Some of those bar end are rubber mounted (the cheap ones) so do get fobbed off. Get a refund on the exhausts and put the old ones back. More importantly next time do it yourself 👍.
@northvanwan7428 2 жыл бұрын
I dont like the look of those mirrors. On any bike. Crg mirrors look nicer and are functional, but also easy to bump off adjustment.
@bazza8947 2 жыл бұрын
Logo on the seat would look far better! The side panel logo does look quite large. That said, I would not have noticed if you hadn't pointed it out haha. The bar clamps look quite large and smaller ones would look better?
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Yes agreed - though overall I’m not to worried about them given the other changes I’m trying to get done…
@yorkshirebiker1293 2 жыл бұрын
Your comments on the rear light, mudguard, and number plate I think your correct
@edwardhughes352 2 жыл бұрын
nice bike
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you….
@TheJmebe 2 жыл бұрын
First of all love the bike..! ..how much for the exhaust! Wow. Agree that the TMF on the side panel looks like a advertising hoarding - removal altogether and stich into seat as you'd originally requested. There must be a better set of indicators in the style of the bike available somewhere. I know someone that could knock a set up for £1,000. A mudguard will help to lengthen the side profile and make look a bit more slender. An integrated [flush to shape of the] black number-plate into the mudguard would look great. Change brake reservoir for a smaller cylindrical metal item. Those changes will help to finish off the sophisticated, clean look of bike.
@ianwilliams4832 2 жыл бұрын
Good to hear your honest views, Great channel 👍👍
@paachi 2 жыл бұрын
On the mirrors wobbling, I had the same issue with Rizomas on my Ducati Sport Classic custom build. The problem is that these designs have an expandable rubber collet that grips the inside. But it’s a one time deal. Any pressure from the wrist (especially when turning the throttle) or making an adjustment and it flips loose. One solution I found is that you can buy cheapie eBay mirrors but it comes with a metal collet that seems to hold better. It a couple and change it out whenever it loosens. Hope this helps
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
I'm told the mirrors are now sorted!
@bilalmalik5002 2 жыл бұрын
I Quite like the look, Glad you like some things too. Hope you enjoy your purchase!
@Dazmpower 2 жыл бұрын
Good that you were honest in the video and hope you get things sorted. That right hand mirror would drive me mad, not too mention no right indicator! Again good honest review.
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Darryl!
@diemman70 2 жыл бұрын
Yep the lighting needs work. Not up to my specifications. I’ve done all my lights on my bikes. The exhaust is definitely overpriced for what it is. HD pricing for sure.
@Trevor_Austin 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, it is a good looking bike. As for the additional/remedial work here’s my two-penneth worth: Fit a shorty mudguard on the rear; lose the letters TMF on the side panels (the bike motif is good); the embroidery on the rear of the seat sounds good (but monitor the size of each element); swap the rear indicators and rear light for an integrated rear light/indicator installation and lastly; there has to be a gold coloured flexible U-channel to fit around the tank edges. Are you also sure about the legality of an apparently dual seat with no passenger footpegs? Some MOT testers will fail you for that. Best of luck with sorting your bike out.
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Trevor - she’s a work in progress..
@flatcapcaferacer 2 жыл бұрын
You'll need something on the side covers otherwise it will be a little bland. Maybe a seat cowl over the rear portion of the seat and add the small fender like your Speed Twin. If you scale the MTF logo on side covers I'd skip embroidery of the seat. Right now she looks a little plump when viewed from the rear.😄😄 I've seen a few Bonnevilles with exhaust exiting each side but at the mid calf level and coming back to mount to the shock mounts and they sound great. You have probably seen in them pictures from the early 1960s ISDTs. When you first started the project I expected the modifications to be at least the same as the purchase price of the bike...if you finish lower than that then you have done pretty good.
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
….it’s cost way more than that!
@leewatkeys9065 2 жыл бұрын
When I watched your earlier videos I think you’d shown great patience not only with the length of time but also the lack of updates to you regarding the delays. They didn’t inspire me with confidence of executing a custom assembly. Nice content as usual Andy 👍🏻
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Lee - appreciate you watching!
@intergalacticshovel 2 жыл бұрын
I embarked upon my custom bike journey about five years ago. Of course spent a lot of money and equally there are some things I would like to change! Have already changed the handlebars. But overall very happy with what turned out to be an award winning chopper. The large amount of research (dreaming) you need to do and finding the right builder are all important. There needs to be a good rapport and several meetings, at which decisions are made about parts and paint. Then as the build progresses further visits to reaffirm goals-oh and pay bills! A competent builder should, with proper input and financial commitment from you complete your dream bike within a year.
@rudolphcarr 2 жыл бұрын
What award did it win ?
@intergalacticshovel 2 жыл бұрын
@@rudolphcarr Back Street Heroes Best Chopper 2019. It goes on their stand at Motorcycle Live and they put you up at the hotel next to the NEC and you get cups and a voucher for Zodiac Customs. Really great weekend! It was my first and only competition.
@edwardt1941 2 жыл бұрын
A certain Stuart Fillingham reviewer( excuse referring to another reviewer) has some really good bar end mirrors on his RE They were from a specialist place(Hitchcocks) in the UK. Apparently the mirrors and mounting kit are available from them. Re the Stumpy tail Yes i feel the same as you It needs a guard like the speed twin one. Number plate mount seems more suited to a Chopper. Nice bike and colour with the Gold Wheels
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Ed - I love this colour scheme!
@TheWurks 2 жыл бұрын
Heidenau K60's on my Triumph 865 Build... love them they're bang on. Never got on with the TEC shocks had one snap on the Thruxton... the ohlins I've now got fitted is a marked improvement. Alot of what you've said are points I debated for long time on my build... (worth checking out... of course I would say that!) Great video as always.. keep em coming
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers - I’ll go check it out now!
@TheWurks 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks, very much built with a similar agenda to yours…
@johnridesadv2512 2 жыл бұрын
You mentioned something about the front tire tread pattern looking to be opposite of the rear. That's pretty much how all directional motorcycle tires mount in the front versus the rear.... I'm constantly being asked by people if my front tire is mounted backwards. Yes it looks backwards, but that is the way the fronts are supposed to be mounted.
@leslieaustin151 2 жыл бұрын
Of course, because the front needs to grip under braking, while the rear needs to grip when the throttle is opened. Les
@johnridesadv2512 2 жыл бұрын
@@leslieaustin151 Yep. All (or most) tires seem to be this way now. The old Avon Distanzia's were about the only tires I can remember that had a front tire with tread pattern that didn't look backwards when mounted.
@rickmarlton8842 2 жыл бұрын
Have to agree with you Andy the back end just doesn't look right, you need some sort of mudguard on there with the number plate repositioned,
@nizzmo100 2 жыл бұрын
The tank seem , Triumphs are the same I use black car door edge trim makes the world of difference , you could probably pick some up at Halfords .
@samarmstrong4309 2 жыл бұрын
Morning! You should take a look at the Kellerman indicator/ light range. Not the cheapest, but the quality is amazing. I’m currently in the process of lightly modifying a T120. I’m very tempted by the Kellermans!
@scottmitchell6371 2 жыл бұрын
All part of the custom process, you'll get there. I've sat and pondered and bought stuff then looked at it and either not fitted it or fitted it then thought it looked cheap and replaced it. You won't be settled till it's all done to your satisfaction then it'll bee sweet. The TMF on the side panel may be slightly too big, but it needs something there.
@richhelm21 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly right. Its a process, its seldom right first time, no matter how much you plan it.
@simonbowen6653 2 жыл бұрын
Paint job, wheels and engine covers look great. Rear end definitely needs sorting. Not sure about the exhaust and if it was mine I'd probably have a small gold RE logo on the side panels. Price reveal will be interesting 😉.
@clifffawcett 2 жыл бұрын
I love it that you can articulate these preferences without sounding like you're complaining. I didn't really notice most of the things you pointed out at first. I do agree with most of what you said. The TMF stitched on the back of the seat would be great. The signal indicators aren't great. I think a short mud flap like the Speed twin would like nice. i think the master cylinder is just fine. I do love the look of the bike.
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I love the overall look too - a work in progress!
@yorkshireperson 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your channel Andy, but a grand for that exhaust when you already liked the one you had?! That's almost 2/3 what I paid for my first big bike this year. I'd quite like to see you go and buy something older and more affordable, biking doesn't have to be that expensive (except for getting a license in the first place, that bits way too expensive).
@G58 2 жыл бұрын
They were a grand EACH! He was mugged multiple times, but he went there begging for it IMO. I’ve never seen such a mess, or heard such a ridiculous story. The fools that did it need naming and shaming.
@davidtimmins390 2 жыл бұрын
Love the bike Agree with you on the back end , personally. The TMF Logo looks Good 👍 look forward to seeing more
@mengaw-yong6414 2 жыл бұрын
Agree stitch for on seat, get rid of painted logo too big, no plate illegal ! , wrap black tape instead, try Oberon bar end mirrors u can swivel up down sideway s for better view down position u can’t see anything , a small fly screen ?, kellerman or motogadget led leds are super bright
@ithaca3929 2 жыл бұрын
The bike is really lovely. Small issues that can be quickly resolved. I just hope they don't charge you for changing the bad quality mirrors and indicators.
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
We shall see....
@AGardenShed 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I think the TMF on the side panels is a bit naff. It would look better stitched in the seat as you said. You would have they’d have run through a lot of these bits for you whilst building. Some of it is just basic snagging issues like the indicators and mirrors.
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed all round....
@framusburns-hagstromiii808 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with your take on the build results. Hopefully the shop will work with you on setting things right without gouging into your wallet even more! It's a beautiful bike with a few small build-quality issues...mostly cosmetic but that turn signal fault should have been caught early-on. That plus the loose turn signals and wobbly mirror would be triggering my OCD something fierce. Best of luck getting it sorted out.
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Framus - we have of course dicussed these changes and they tell me they are crackng on with them s hopefully all will be well (the bike has been back a month)....
@keithminshull9285 2 жыл бұрын
Positives first, Love the channel and really look forward to every new release. Love the content and your enthusiastic presentation! Now to the Enfield. For me, the attraction of the RE is the price, a few sensible mods and its a cracker of a bike and amazing value for money. When you said that your's was going away for extensive modification I thought that the likely justification for this would be content. Maybe it was and sadly, Covid stopped you from being to film regular updates? Anyway, my thought that I have to share is that, whilst most most of the mods have been carried out very well and look great, I can't help feeling that you've killed the true spirit of the Enfield and created very poor value alternative to a Triumph Street Scrambler. Sorry about that, the positive is that, like so many others, I'm really enjoying the vids. Keep up the good work!
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Keith - I bought the RE with the intention of customising it into my own dream bike, for me it’s not really about the money but about getting the bike I wanted. Not quite there yet as you saw but we are getting there! …oh and believe me I have more than enough content without having to pay to generate some!!!
@cport955 2 жыл бұрын
The bar end mirror issue is probably a combination of the bar end not being tight enough and the mirror itself needing nipped up a bit. As for the cost I spent loads when I had a Thruxton 900 and that was doing most of the work myself
@jeffslade1892 2 жыл бұрын
That type of lightweight bar end mirror does wobble. The heavier Stadium/Halcyon and Iron Horse/Napoleon type don't.
@jeffslade1892 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardclark1448 like Rawl bolts, yeah. The bars I have them on have welded in plugs.
@nicensleazy1892 2 жыл бұрын
just watching this has given me the inspiration to get my Ducati 749 R out for a spin !
@dougengland7943 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with your comments regarding the back end looking a little blunt and the lights do look cheap. I would replace the lights and add a fender extension/ mud guard. The TMF logo on the side would look better if it was smaller. Had you not mentioned the trim around the tank I might not have noticed - could you fit some black trim over top of the seam instead of taping? The brake master cylinder looks fine, it wouldn't be something I would change. The vibrating mirror would drive me nuts, I would fix or replace. I also agree the exhaust would look better if it was extended another 12" or so however the BAAK exhaust sounds good and the black looks great, again it wouldn't be something I would change especially given the cost involved. Stitching on the back of the seat would look good proving the cost wasn't excessive. Overall the bike looks great, love the color combination, I'm not usually a gold color fan however it looks great with the other colors on the bike.
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Thans - I love the colours..think it looks perfect!
@lynsmith1096 2 жыл бұрын
Good video TMF. Hope you can get all your things that are wrong fixed soon.
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
I’m working on it! It’s been back at the shop a month now….
@alanmiles7297 2 жыл бұрын
Love all the videos that you make very informative. The rear number plate is that a lawful addition to the bike????
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
See my pinned comment Alan....
@losttogether4ever 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm I think it looks great overall, if it were mine the changes I'd make definetly need a black rear fender, paint or black tape on the tank seam, get rid of the switch gear and go stock or something mechanical, those buttons will only cause you grief down the road. Signal probably just need tightening and a bit of lock tight so they don't loosen. I'd get rid of the side panel logo and go for the stitching on the seat I think that would look great, mirrors just need to be properly installed again. Black out the chrome bezels on the clocks too while you are at it.
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
So pretty much as I said then…thanks for watching!
@marcr660907 2 жыл бұрын
I think overall it’s very nice, but any custom build comes with little niggles you either learn to live with them or have to change them. The rear end needs the small mudguard, and what about an led rear brake strip rather than the protruding brake light? Leave the license plate where it is. Get Rizoma mirrors and bullet indicators, quality product, although a bit pricy.
@Somethingabout2wheels 2 жыл бұрын
I liked the original bike you had but customisation is a personal thing. It’s good you’ve gone through this so people go into this kind of thing eyes wide open
@CPUspeed 2 жыл бұрын
The brake master cylinder is fine better than a plastic thing. It only looks big because there are no mirrors nearby. The side logo is big enough for people to see if that’s what you want. If you remove it and have one on the seat very few will see it. In terms of scramblers and terms of racing it’s ok for team logos to be big, enter it in the Baja 500 😎 Yes you need a rear fender if you don’t want spray on your back, it makes sense with that rear light there to go with it.
@BumbleBee-qe8kc 2 жыл бұрын
Many things in life need a tweak here and there Andy, don’t be to down hearted, time spent on her gives you the chance to make them changes to be as perfect as you want her to be. 👍
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I'll get it there....
@AJSpinDrift 2 жыл бұрын
Such a shame it's not quite what you had hoped for, but thanks for sharing. I'd be really interested to hear of the build cost and then the overall price difference between something like this and a well kitted out Speed Twin with lots of goodies form the Triumph catalogue. The Royal Enfield represents great value in base spec, but I do wonder if the Triumph would end up being a better preposition when going down this kind of route?
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
In hindsight it would indeed.....
@ianofsjkartwork 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree with you backend modifications you are planning...........my opinion on the TMF logo on side panels are too big.........stay safe..........thanks for sharing
@chrispomphrett4283 2 жыл бұрын
I have done work for other people and every step of the way is phone calls and images sent etc to ensure what comes out of the workshop is exactly as agreed. That is so important. I would have been embarrassed to have veered away from your plans to this degree. Having said, looks nice but back end is too empty looking. Not sure how that black number plate will ever be legal either!
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed - the number plate is going as I mentioned....
@peterleicester4701 2 жыл бұрын
Andy we all discuss your reviews at work, truthful and enlightening. It takes a big man to come up with whats wrong as people will normally not criticise the large purchase they have made but justify it. Im not an overall fan of the bike and the bits you pointed out I agree with. In someways it seems a bit rushed and not thought out though that had the bike a longtime, the exhausts price i would not be happy with . I await your next update. If i ever had one done i would supply pictures of things that you like from previous bikes so they are on the same page and more involvement during the process so you can see it unfold rather than a final showing at the end like a bind date -they rarely go well. All bikes need good mirrors.. I’m sure you will get there.
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
...I did provide pictuires as part of my detailed spec....comms breakdown by some of the parties involved....
@peterleicester4701 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer well you couldn’t haven’t done anymore. Andy. You will get it how you like it.
@A861967 2 жыл бұрын
It’s always great to add some small changes when you get such a lovely machine 🤗
@MotoShaneGame 2 жыл бұрын
No rear guard on a bike seems all the rage these days. You head out on a nice day but find yourself heading home on wet roads, and half the road grime is now up your back and backside!
@jamesbarrie2458 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and the tiny front mudgaurd will ensure you get your feet plastered too
@chriswilliams33 2 жыл бұрын
Changed my crap mirrors for CNC Racing billet Bar end mirrors from Italy, excellent quality comes with a locking collet which fits inside the handlebars & stops the locking mechanism from moving when tightening.
@Chris-kh2fm 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with all your points about the bike. The three main eyesores for me are the exhausts, the logo and the number plate, which is illegal anyway.
@morri03 2 жыл бұрын
When it’s a custom job there is only one person who has to be pleased with it and pass judgement. Motorcycles are a compromise between multiple potential stakeholders and customers and possible uses. When you just need to please one person you can get exactly what you want but it always comes at a price.
@rudolphcarr 2 жыл бұрын
Except they didn’t give him what he wanted
@biscuitbarrel5589 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm When you get the bike back what’s it going to make you feel like when you go in the garage and look at it. Just memories of the initial dissatisfaction and hassle. I can imagine so far it's cost maybe £15k inc initial purchase, likely more to shell out yet. About the same as a low miler as new two year old Fatboy. We live and learn.
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty good guess on the costs! I will get the bike sorted though - it’s a work in progress and in the main I love the look of it..
@baconbiketours9166 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe get them to look at the routing of the front brake line. That line seems to be sat on the clock casing and the routing gives it a bit of a sharp turn. With vibration one part could work. Nice bike over all though :)
@stephenhadley2490 2 жыл бұрын
My best mate’s dad used to tell us when we were young and working on our cars the old adage “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”. Obviously we ignored him and learnt the hard way. These days I only do the bare minimum to my bikes. Just be glad you didn’t do that to the Speed Twin.
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
...actualy I am thinking about a paint job at least....
@Daveudy 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with your comments... not sure if this is custom or accessorising.... seems to me the shop just did bolt on’s, a simple hoop deletion and paint.... I’m fascinated to understand how much they charged...
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
hmmm......
@k31chris 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with your observations. For the tank seam you can use a car window rubber seal that presses onto the seam. It does stay put I did it on my gen 1 street triple. For me I'd bin off all the indicators and go bar end Indicators. Couldn't the bike shop made an exhaust hanger that bolted onto the heal guard?
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what I incorrectly assumed they would do….shows the importance of communication in these things….
@derekiwanczuk2867 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with the rear of the bike it needs something to tidy it up a bit also number plate relocating but lovely looking bike take care happy riding.
@chilangoson 2 жыл бұрын
I once had on my Duke390 Rizoma mirrors installed. But I had to go to a machine shop so the bar ends were cut to fit the circumference of the adjustable loop on the mirrors. The loops offered very little adjustment as they’re made of molded aluminum but the guys at the shop understood this and they did a perfect cut to fit the adjustable mirror loops. Bar ends went back on to my desire angel and never had a problem with those mirrors again.
@bobojo8591 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Thanks for another great video. Sorry to say this but having watched this video, it has reinforced my notion of not wanting to modify bikes at all. l do understand people may modify them for better performance and or even the way they look. l agree when done well those can be amazing. However, given the cost and time it gets me thinking is it worth it? Especially for those who eventually sell their bikes, more often than not stock bikes fetch a better price than the heavily modded ones. So to me it does not seem to be something l would do. However, you are more of a keeper than a flogger l guess. Thinking of the amount of mods you have done started thinking at the rate you went, you may as well have built your own, l think after you got through with it, it was barely recognisable. As l was watching and listening to you detail what has been done, could not help wondering would you not have been better served take the initial cost and the sums you spent buying another Triumph, Ducati, BMW, Harley or whatever takes your fancy and be about 80% or more satisfied from the off. Would have saved you a lot of aggravation. Wonder what the Missus makes of all this though. By the way Yammie Noob said something about the fact that it may be illegal to modify your bikes in the future, what do you think of this as someone who clearly loves to do so? All the best with the project but l have to say a few of the mods had made in stitches, someone was having a laugh at your expense, the missing mudguard and the manner in which the license was placed. That to me smacks of someone taking the mickey out of you. To think you paid for that privilege, what is this world coming to? lf this is craftsmanship, l will take my chances with robots any day.
@grahamloftus4449 2 жыл бұрын
One look at what is in your garage proves that you know what a good looking bike looks like, its both unfortunate and bizarre that you didn’t get what you were looking for, I wholeheartedly agree with all the points you have highlighted and hope you get them resolved to your satisfaction, you deserve better.
@RocketMan_Moto 2 жыл бұрын
Ouch, quite a list there - wobbly mirrors and indicators, stubby rear, weird BAAK exhaust, giant logo you didn't ask for..? Given the time they had the bike, I would be pretty annoyed myself. Good on you for sharing your disappointment, though. Hope it gets sorted soon. P.S. I'm betting £4500 for all the work :)
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Double that.....
@RocketMan_Moto 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer well, that's a bit of a shock... Brave man for sharing that information; you'll no doubt be getting some interesting comments... which I suppose is a good thing - the revenue will help claw back some of the outlay😉
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
...not sure it works quite like that but nice thought!
@martinholt2844 2 жыл бұрын
All your points are very valid. I think the TMF logo is too big and a smaller version would have been more suitable. No one will ever like all that you change so it is a very personal thing!
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed it is - I’ll get it there eventually!
@andyaptc2907 2 жыл бұрын
yes back end is too blunt a short guard and no plate and I would have an oval back lamp myself to suit. maybe combine rear lamp and side indication?
@ukvamp 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with the bits you don't like, defo needs a rear mudguard, looks stumpy without it. Rear plate at the back like you say would be better too. Lose the TMF and get it on the seat like you wanted, would look 100% better. Overall it's really good, just needs a few bits changed to be perfect! Would you consider the big bore kit for it? Seen gains in the USA that bring the bike to 70+bhp and apparently it handles the extra poke well!
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Nah - I'm not after performance out of this bike.....
@ukvamp 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer fair enough, I'm just desperate to see a UK based youtuber do the big bore upgrade! Sure someone will eventually
@HD2O13XL12OOC 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe next time get delboy to do it 😁 looks great and will be even better once its properly sorted
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it’s a work in progress….
@domabitofacountrybumpkin.8327 2 жыл бұрын
Try black or silver edgeing trim from halfords to tidy up your tank lip, used on my triumph tank and gets rid of the long join , looks so much cleaner.
@Andy.H.H. 2 жыл бұрын
I like the TMF logo on the side of the bike. Maybe 25% smaller would improve the overall look?
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