Please do me a favor and never take this down. This is one of the most enlightening talks I’ve listened to in ages.

I have noticed that I became more aware of the feast days of the Saints after attending the Latin Mass as opposed to the Novus Odro. I think its because the point that was mentioned about the Mass being centred on the lives of the saints.

Thank you for the thoughts Dr. Peter. From 1969 to 2019; (50 years.) We should turn around to the rites we had before and we we will find God's favour. This time we should have Cardinals Schneider, Burke, Zen and more who share their thoughts put the Lectionary together. Only priests should do all readings. The laity listen and worship. Sad to say we have lost the beauty and sacredness of the WORD dwelling with us. Can you please put forward to correct and obtain God's mercy and blessings for all. God bless you for enlightenment thrown to us.

Thank you both Brother Andre Marie and Dr. Peter Kwasniewski for your great video about “What’s Wrong with the New Lectionary”. I have just learned a lot about the things I didn’t know about the Traditional Latin Mass. I’m going to order and buy the “Index Lectionum” that you have suggested. God be praised and glorified through your powerful discussion regarding the Lectionary. Amen

Psalm 108 (109) was expunged because in the Church of Nice we're not supposed to hate evil. [sigh]

Great show! Very 👀 opening. Thank you!

Excellent

Thank you for this. The distinction given between TM and NO, was very helpfull for me. I am new to TM and that part was missing in my understanding. « Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi »! God bless.

At the time point around 50:20 you mention skipping around "uncomfortable" phrases in Scripture. Isn't this exactly what Luther and the other protesters did by taking seven books out of the Bible?

This was very good.

Thank you for this fine video, Brother and Dr. K. I'll order the book. Meanwhile, the video reminds me that my conscience warns me to avoid the Novus Ordo. About nine years ago, when I "traded" Pope Paul VI's rite for the TLM, I worried that I might have doe that schismatically. But now I attend Holy Mass where I belong, i.e., an SSPX chapel in Upstate New York.

I really enjoyed this, thanks. I include the last verses of Psalm 62 (63) when I pray LOTH; I 'discovered them' when I starting memorizing psalms, and I would print them out to do so. Surprise! I had extra lines at the end.

The scholarly vocabulary is a bit challenging to follow at times, but terrific overview. It makes sense how orderly, and solemn the traditional Latin mass is. Excellent example of 1 COR 11:27-29, especially given that so many do not believe in the Real Presence! So many little steps taken on purpose, perhaps politically correct, as you said, but I suspect more so on purpose (communion in rhe hand, mass versus populum) to slowly kill our supernatural faith! Attending the NO mass, I need to read along to make sure i "hear" the word, even if I read before mass, because of mispronounced words or difficult accents. And yet some NO priests have scolded the faithful for following along in the missal and not looking at the reader. Looking a the lector, deacon, or priest, especially if they have quirks, or try to make eye contact, distracts from the Word of God. So thankful for your sharing your studies, insights, ans the beauty of our traditional liturgy!

Remember that not even the Anglicans break their Bible up to more than a year. The faithful celebrating Matins and Evensong as well as the Mass would end up covering a trimmed OT (all books) once and NT thrice in a year, as well as the Psalmody once a month - unfortunately referred to as "Lessons." As an aside, the Malismas (sp?) you're talking about at 24:00 are called, I believe, the Prokemenon in Eastern Churches. The joke about the style is the "Prokemenon ... and on ... and on ..."

I remember when Archbishop Sample said his first Mass for the public after ordination; I was in the. Choir where just a nice song was used between the Old Testament and New Testament readings, instead of a Scriptural Psalm. It seemed to have taken him by surprise, but his sermon was largely based on the Psalm so he read it anyway. It was so perfect; it pointed out quite clearly that important Scripture was being left out. I knew, yet it had been so long since Scripture had been used. Very refreshing to have such and interesting and inspirational priest, now Archbishop.

Amen.

Beautiful. One brief comment: I think the idea to expose the faithful to “more scripture,” is soft Gnosticism. I’ll explain. I have the sense Novus Ordo Catholics are somewhat gnostic, and part of that includes believing that ordinary laypeople can absorb “more Scripture” and understand it, since in our age we are “enlightened” (hence that we no longer need to kneel, that any layperson can read the readings, that laypeople can move around the Sanctuary and touch sacred things including the Lord Himself, etc., the fact that the Liturgy is now “spiritual” and needs no longer be materially beautiful, etc. It’s new-age thinking for a new-age Liturgy). It’s difficult to explain but I hope it’s not completely confusing. Pride, and ultimately Gnosticism.

“Lectionary” was misspelled in the title of this video.

It is interesting that Novus Ordo Catholics don't know that Bible, in spite of all the Bible reading at the New Mass.

Btw, the Byzantine lectionary seems to have somewhat followed the same course as the Gregorian re: readings at liturgy. But the Syriac & Coptic lectionaries have up to 5 lections at liturgy, and two or more often at vespers & matins. The Slavs still follow the unrevised Typikon and can have up two three epistles & gospels in days of double & triple observances. This just happened recently, in fact. (Not all parishes read all of them, and the Greeks follow a revised 19th c. parish Typikon that greatly simplifies rubrics in a somewhat NO fashion but over a century prior.)

In The Hagia Sophia of Constantine, St. John Chrysostom preached from the same ambo from whence the Gospel, Epistle and psalms were chanted. In the new great cathedral of Justinian, a great ambo was provided for the antiphons & readings, too. In Slavic practice today, the epistle & Gospel are both read from the center of the nave (facing East), unless the priest is reading the Gospel, in which case it is read facing the people from before the holy gates. The epistle is chanted by second deacon at a hierarchical liturgy, Reader or lay person at a normal celebration. Btw, re: direction, at Byzantine Sunday matins, a cycle of 11 resurrection gospels are read. In slavic practice (not sure about contemporary Greek/Antiochian), it is read by the priest at the altar on the south side facing north). Btw, the LXX (basis for Vulgate) says in Psalm 88[88]:13[12], “The north and the west [or the seas], You created them” - the west and the seas, of course, being the domain of chaos, the untamed world.

A question. Is the removing of chasuble before homily is a Roman Catholic's practice? I have question many of the people i know, even those lived before Vatican II, and none of them have seen any priest doing that. I need some reference if this practice exist in RC.

Isn,t the plethora of scripture to prepare of us for the new “community; and the almost disrespect for the Communion of Saints?

I know that I will be accused of splitting hairs but that's what traditional Catholics do. There's a phrase use that a particular thing taken out of the new mass. That technically is is incorrect the new Mass was created out of whole cloth.

I don't like when the music is loud and seems more like a preformance at the front of the church, instead of worship with everyones voices not louder then the people....!

Novus Ordo liturgy is cheapskate and watered down

Thank you for this beautiful presentation. I grew up attending the Latin Mass. Honestly I did not understand the Mass and feel as though I did not give Christ and God the Father the homage that they deserve. For you scholars who have studied Latin and every aspect of the Mass you understand what is supposed to be happening. I can say, and I attended Catholic Schools for. 11years. I did not understand the Mass and it’s meaning. To have the Gospel and Epistle read in Latin did not increase my understanding of the Word or the Bible. I love the original prayers of the Traditional Mass and wish we had the same ones in the New Mas, especially the prayers after Communion. I recently went to the Latin High Mass and I felt as though I had not been to Mass as the liturgy was fast and I could not understand the Latin, even when following along in the Red Book. I loved receiving OurLord kneeling at the alter rail- more reverent than standing. My prayer would be that the pendulum become more centered. Combine the old with the new. Christ taught in a way that the people could understand. Keep the reverence of the old and keep the open understanding of what is happening and the time to really worship Christ in a new form.

I am not getting why more scripture is not as good as less. I just didn’t get it. If you have such a long video there should be some content at least, please respect your audience and edit your videos, we cannot waste an hour and listen to your rambling. I love praying the divine office and more scripture seems so much more adorative. I would love to attend Latin Mass, unfortunately I get only one English Mass on Sunday and I have to drive 30 minutes to get to it. I agree that the people reading today do a disservice to the readings, especially when children are asked to read .

Bro Andre mentions during the 28:00 - 29:00 section the determination of Pascha with the Moon "as the Jews did." To clarify, we do not use the Jewish reckoning of Passover and should not do so according to Nicaea, if anyone confused what Br. Andre said with this notion. I will give a quick run-down of the highly complex East/West reading system as I understand it, for those interested. Regarding the Lectionaries East and West. I will try focusing on the task at hand - the Bible. Keep in mind that the readings are tied intimately to Liturgics, as stated in the program. Here I am assuming the Church of Rome still uses the Liturgy of St. Gregory, not the so-called "Mass of Paul VI" or "New Mass." The readings are divided up and matched to two periods, the first to Lent and Holy Week (considered separate from Lent in the East) in the "Triodion," the second during the "Pentecostarion," governing the weeks of Pascha - these readings, at least on Sundays, are identical East and West, by the way, and I think the Lenten and Holy Week readings are similar (at least prior to Bugnini's 1940's attack on Holy Week) - and also after the end of the Pentecostarion on the fixed date of June 29, the feast of Ss. Peter and Paul, when the Octoechoes or Eight Tones takes over Liturgical rubrics. As Pentecost terminates any specially named Sunday relating to Pascha - this happens with Trinity Sunday on the week after in the Church of Rome, I believe mirrored as Holy Spirit Monday in the East but I'm not sure - the readings simply refer to however many weeks that have passed since Pentecost (similarly, Trinity Sunday). Weekday readings begin with John 1:1 on Pascha for the Gospels and with Acts 1:1 on Pascha as the start of the Apostles or so-called "Epistles." The weekdays drive through the New Testament from these standpoints, going through John, Matthew and Luke, with Mark interspersed throughout, alongside all Apostolic writings except famously Revelation for the East (which is most certainly Scripture and **quoted** Liturgically but not **read** Liturgically). Gospel readings on fixed dates occur again on fixed Holy Days like the Dormition and Nativity of the Theotokos, Elevation of the Cross, the two Temple Holy Days, Christmas, etc. No matter what place in the readings one is in, Luke begins the Monday following the Elevation of the Cross (or a week from such dating, if the Elevation is on a Sunday). This approximates the Conception of the Forerunner, mentioned as being six months prior to the Conception of our Lord in the Gospel of Luke. This could cause a return to the start of the Mattean cycle if this date is not yet reached, and resolving how this is to be handled with the theoretically unaffected Apostolic reading is up to the particular Church. For particular fixed feasts and events like Baptisms and Chrismations, Weddings, funerals, consecrations, the date of reception of news of war or plague or foreign army invasions and so on, the reading could change to a different reading, based on the feast ranking coupled with whether the feast happens on Saturday or Sunday, whether the Parish/Monastery/Convent is named after the feast, etc. The reading otherwise prescribed is usually dispensed, though can optionally be read in addition to the one prescribed for the day in certain cases. At any rate, the Old Testament (Prophetologion) is read during the above times only, outside of the weekdays of Lent. During Lent, at least in the East, the readings during the weekdays come from Genesis, Proverbs and Isaiah. Long Old Testament readings also come during Holy Week and the big holidays concerning Christ and His mother. The Psalter is still read, in its entirety, once per week liturgically, following a division into twenty sections called Kathismas. Instead of singing the Gloria at the end of each Psalm, as is in Rome, the East divides each Kathisma into triplets of one or multiple whole Psalms, and stops for a Gloria following the Psalm (or, in the case of 118, the verse) marking that triplet. This also serves as a handy prayer rule for the lay person, who can either circulate one Kathisma over three prayer sessions a day in addition to his usual prayers (and Psalms during those usual prayers!), going through the Psalmody exactly 17 times a year (Bright Week prescribes only one prayer regarding the Resurrection plus any readings, beads, etc. usually prayed). The baptized Anglican "Book of Common Prayer" published both by Catholic and Orthodox presses with nearly identical corrections has a good table dividing up the Old Testament across the year. Dr. Taylor Marshall should have a similar division on his website somewhere. If you converted (especially from atheism, like I did) you should at least know what they are, even if you don't quite understand them all. The Orthodox Study Bible has commentary strictly from the Fathers, and Rome has the excellent D/R translation with commentary from Haydock, if you wish to tackle these with sanctioned sources. Lastly, I'd also like to plug the Knox Bible. Knox used the Vulgate primarily, checked in comments and in difficult Latin-to-English places with the Septuagint and Hebrew, and did this with tremendous care, retaining middle English pronouns for God, as is appropriate. It remains by far the best, easiest to read English edition of the Bible available.

none of this proves that we should go back to the old mass. Additionally, there is no way anything mentioned here justifies praying in a language you don't understand. It actually contradicts the gospel where the Holy Spirit came upon the apostles so they could say mass in the native languages of the people.

I'll not let your king plague the imperial island of San Diego with his grotesque judgments, against my people who were wicked with their deeds, a spirit of a deity cannot dwell in a righteous queen, to give her power, your king ruled enough nation's, I won't let the true adversary take over mine.

My God you people are so stuck in the Middle Ages