I don’t think you understand what is being done here. There’s no way this level of jeweling can be done at the factory - Rolls Royce would go broke.

@@Nick210get them to repaint it!!… it is after all there bad paintwork🤔

ALL brand new cars have orange peel, even bespoke ones such as these or even Eggs.

@@Nick210 I’ll ask my cousin…. He works there at the Goodwood factory in the engine department!! RR wouldn’t send out a car like that, I’ve sent him this so he can show it to the managers there, should be interesting!!

Koenigsegg are actually one of the few that have very good paint

yet it is, even Jay Leno's new 2024 spectre has it, look it up especially when they show a close up of the rear and the front, panels and its a black diamond paint finish as well. 👌🦘👍✌

@@7071t6 Thought they flatted and polished at factory 🏭 maybe not 🤪 WOW!!!

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It’s nice!

Thanks for your kind words

Exactly . The move away from enamel paint brought this on. Speaking as a non expert.

Not correct. Incorrect viscosity setup is the reason for orange peel in paint. Technical data sheets have all the information required for a perfectly flat finish out of the gun.

@@benjibradshaw69 so basically, the manufacturer's have gotten sloppy with their paint

@@benjibradshaw69 That would be correct if it were just the odd manufacturer or two, but EVERY single one?!!......Give me a break!😉

The complete opposite is often true, (indirectly) due to exotics being more meticulously hand built. When it comes to manufacturing and or the selling of cars, the people involved do not have the know how, skill, time/compensation to perform anywhere near the level of a Topaz or most reputable detailing operations. In fact you usually do not want them to try and perform high end detailing, because it often creates more hidden damage, that an auto detailer is going to end up addressing anyway. Some of the more decently cared for cars (low expectation here) came from the lower end daily driven vehicle dealerships where minimal detailing was performed. I visited a Porsche dealership recently (very nice people) and it was a great experience. With that said, the swirls and marring visible at NIGHT on their signature cars was some of the worst damage I have seen on ""new cars"".

I'd give the dealer the bill. How much is the bill?

RR should definitely be picking up the tab for this. The paint finish on that value of a car should be impeccable. How did it even pass their QC or PDI before going to the customer. Awful.

I’m pretty sure they would have tried to sell the owner ‘lifeshine’ or some other sub par paint treatment at the dealer. 😂

Send me an email to thomas.howarth@topazdetailing.com and maybe we can organise a private tour (no promises)

@@TopazDetailing thank you for your reply . And that would be amazing if for my Reece-boy he is absolutely car mad bless him . And I will do . Once again thank you fingers crossed 👊💙

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PPF doesn't add or remove any orange peel (well, the top films anyway. Some cheap imported Chinese film may). If the paint is crystal clear, then it will remain so (I have a video of a Rolls Royce Cullinan Urban on my channel, that I ppf'd, and you can't tell the difference between the filmed and unfilmed panels) PPF does hide swirls, and minor sanding marks, though. It makes sense after this kind of work especially to PPF to protect.

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I've worked on a few Rolls Royce. I have an Urban Cullinan on my channel. The paint depths on that were a little higher than regular paint, but not crazy. Most cars are around 90-120. The few Rolls I've worked on are from 120-170. So a little extra 😎 In terms of what you'll remove doing this, it's hard to state as it can vary depending on paint hardness, and methods used (DA sanding, hand sanding, and even the quality of sanding discs you use). But, based on my experience it's approx 5-30 microns depending on hardness. I've wet sanded a VW for example with 1500/2000/3000+, removed the peel and taken only 7-10 microns. Then I did a scratch repair on a Ford and the only with 2000 grit one pass went from 115 micron to 90 😂 So a paint depth gauge is important!

@@OnTrackDetailing Thank you for your extensive answer with your insights. Sorry to continue with a follow up question, what you wrote is just too interesting to not ask upon further. So on that Ford repair, you took off presumably 20 microns approximately. So given the unknown, how thick the clear coat may have been, what do you think the long term implications of that much clear may be? Of course, it will make a difference if the car is garaged or not, but generally, would you feel OK with that much clear missing? Similarly I have been wondering about measuring 90 micron spots on our new BMW. Particularly with respect to their location, the near upper the corners of the windshield and on both sides, it is 90. AND on our old BMW this was exactly the spot wehere the clear has failed after about 10 years of California sun (I did not measure paint thickness back then yet, so I only have the location reference). Coincidence? Or is the clear coat in this area really thinner to the point of vulnerability (of course I get it, it gets hit more by the sun on this spot to begin with and hence it heats up more etc.) Never the less, I would be interested in your opinion.

@mrtopcat2 No worries. Yes we don't know exactly for the clearcoat thickness- as such tools cost thousands and maybe 0.05% of detailers have these lol. Regular Paint depth gauges don't seperate the layers. Generally to take such clearcoat off is not bad. But, not good either. As you have found - the lacquer acts as UV protection. The thinner the lacquer the more the UV can damage the underlying paint. So preservation of the clear coat is important. Assuming ceramic coating / PPF / regular (monthly) waxing, then you will be fine generally. Most mainstream cars will approximately have 30-40 microns of clearcoat. I have burnt through on several test panels and all around 60-75microns when Burn through happens. So generally I would consider over 80 microns "ok" in terms of paint thickness but under this I would not perform heavy cutting. Only a light refinement. Generally around 90 is when I stop sanding.

@@OnTrackDetailing Thank you. This is all invaluable information for me. I sort of expected it to be this way, but could not be sure. You confirming it with the results or your testing and experience especially with the burn through values was just so important for me! One thing that I found was that my paint thickness measurement seemed temperature dependent. I am not sure if this was due to my probes temperature dependence or temp related variation of the paint itself. Another issue that I have recognized was the dependence of the measurement of holding the probe perfectly perpendicular to the surface. This seems like a no brainer, but it is easier said than done, especially on the curvier panels. So for my measurements, I was using continuous reading mode and took the lowest reading as my value. I am just starting out with paint correction and eager to learn. So far I have not been comfortable to start using machines (I only have a Makita 9227C polisher, which I only used to apply wax) and used hand method to get out some smaller scratches via scratch-x. So I have a ways to go learning.

@mrtopcat2 I didnt really find temperature dependant, certainly at "normal" temperatures Many gauges will have a 1~5 micron variance. It's important to regularly calibrate. Even then many "reasonable cost" gauges, you can measure a 50 micron calibration piece, and it may read 47-48-47-52-51-53-48... its an "accurate estimate" 😂 As you have found, ensuring proper measurement is important. Keep going and learning / experimenting, and you will go far! I have a few videos which discuss polishing techniques and paint depths (specifically the MX5 one) if they are of interest / educational value. Good luck in your journey 🙏

Thank you

Unfortunately you cannot sand orange peel off of most newer cars. There simply isn’t enough paint/clearcoat. Especially Nissan, Kia and Hyundai. Manufactures look for ways to cut cost, and paint is one of them. Your best defense would be a ceramic coating, and/or PPF.

They do polish it after production.

Agree , but tbh the main area they showed was underneath the rear number plate and as with door shuts pretty much all car's have it there 🤓

This is probably the most nuanced and well rounded comment here. Clearly you know what you are talking about. My respect to you sir. Still a good job by Topaz in any event.

Exactly. Bit pointless in the end

It’s a great spec

....like taking candy from a baby!

It’s cool isn’t it?

Walaikum Assalam

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It’s likely the price of a normal car itself.

I've seen Mercedes Maybach covered in orange peel, but didn't think that was the case with Rolls Royce 😕

@@garyestcourt2377 that is also bad considering they are expensive as well.

If I were the owner of this RR I'd be sending them the invoice from Topaz

@gk-ss1zu I would do the same. Its okay for the average car, but when you spend that much, you want better quality

Mercedes usually have a lot of orange peel