WHAT SAVED MY LIFE... When things go wrong! Part 2

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Tom Bailey had a devastating fire in the braking area at the NHRA Gatornationals. Drag racing isn't easy, with all the crashes, accidents, and fires that can occur - but thankfully Tom got out okay.
This is a two-part series about the fire and what kept Tom safe. Tom will share his experience, knowledge, and what he has learned since the fire.
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@anthonyboulus9042 3 жыл бұрын

I'm a simple man.. I see tom bailey upload I instantly like then proceed to watch.

@anthonyboulus9042 3 жыл бұрын

Following from Brisbane Australia

@bigsexymuthashutyomouth2546 3 жыл бұрын

Same here!

@MartinMcMartin 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome insight into every racers worst case scenario.

@picklefart 3 жыл бұрын

What a testament to the gear and safety safari.

@aSinisterKiid 3 жыл бұрын

You are very much right in the phrasing that a fire system is to save you and not the car. Most people don't realize what kind of mess and damage just the fire system alone can do to the car. It's one of those things that is very situational. I've always felt like a fire system was most useful when a car is flipped or you as the driver are actually stuck in the car somehow. The fire system then buys you a lot more time to hopefully get out of the car. Just like you said with the fire gear, it's all about how much time you have until some serious damage happens.

@leslie476 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Tom for all you do for the racing community. Another amazing video that hopefully saves lives in the future. Can't wait to see you back on the street again.

@TheTsunamijuan 3 жыл бұрын

You touched on some great topics again in this video. I am glad you brought up life of the suppression systems. Nothing worse than a fire, but broken or expired extinguishers don't help the situation.

@StickA-yd4fp 3 жыл бұрын

Had a o ring blow out on my mustang in the 90's. Melted a bunch of wires and bubble the paint on the hood. A old timer walked up and pointed out what caused the fire. He said did you re use the o ring. I did, then he said never do that. Always put new ones on. Glad you was safe, sorry about the hot rod.

@tman7718 3 жыл бұрын

Great couple of videos. I drive an old corvette and only runs 7.3 in 1/8. I do wear a fire suit, but a cheap one. Your vids have made me think and will be upgrading my suit, helmet and even installing a 5pt harness. Thank you for taking the time to share and want you to know it has made an impact on me and I am sure a lot of others. Big fan.

@akelkhunter 3 жыл бұрын

Should be a mandatory video series for drivers to be able to race. Well maybe that’s going too far but get my point regarding how great this series of videos is. Definitely will be saving someone’s life after watching. Hard to ignore the seriousness of what you presenting. Pretty humbling. Thanks

@heretic134 3 жыл бұрын

I honestly love these videos as a young guy who typically hasn't cared about personal safety these really do hit home and does get me thinking since I am starting into my own first project car that I plan on having a lot of power in It gives me a lot to think about and I want to say thank you

@crazylarryjr 3 жыл бұрын

The good thing in this, the car did exactly what it was supposed to do, when things go sideways, it saved your life. while the damage is extensive, it's not unrecoverable. Glad you'll be back, Hope to see you at Drag week or either race weeks, but understand if it can't happen. Once again, the good in this, Your car did exactly what it was designed to do, protect you. BTW if you can't run Sick seconds (1.0 or 2.0), I'd like to see that Torino behind you at race week.

@anthonygibbo1881 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for making me realise that the methanol fires burn invisible that I did not know and for giving some solid advice tom 👍🏽

@nhra7110 3 жыл бұрын

Lots to be learned from your accident - thanks for sharing this!

@bendiesel9132 3 жыл бұрын

Hey mate, when working with methanol even refueling etc have a bag of salt around, when the methanol catches fire and reaches the salt it will give the flame colour. We leave a bag of salt on stored methanol drums 👍🏻

@nkill6 3 жыл бұрын

Your the second assie to talk about methanol fire safety thanks

@hignight17 3 жыл бұрын

Once again, great insights into what are terrible situations! Thanks Tom and crew for putting this together.

@jamesengel8867 3 жыл бұрын

1st of all, glad youre alright. 2nd, you have such a presence in the racing community. The info you organized, explain and have shared is invaluable. I just found your channel today and subscribed before i even saw a video. Stay safe and keep the content coming sir!👍👏👏

@jasonstanford 3 жыл бұрын

Really appreciate the explanation and look forward to seeing you run 5's again.

@mrlayhee 3 жыл бұрын

Great information! Loving this channel.

@ltseven 3 жыл бұрын

Very informative video thanks

@freedomfox8183 3 жыл бұрын

I hear you Tom I made my mistake of pulling my fire system more than once when I didn't need to more out of panic of my car burning to the ground because it took me years to build my car and then I found out how much it is to refill it and now I'm going to be sure I need to pull it before I do lol I think it was $610 to fill it each time and completely unnecessary as I was able to get the fire out with my gloves but in that moment when I first started racing I was scared shitless it's easier to remain calm now

@warriervw 3 жыл бұрын

good info . i have a much better understanding about fire in racing . very happy to know that there is many ways to be safer in a fire situation . thanks again . good video .

@moter3d 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the follow up video Tom. Great info.

@lauraradigan4114 3 жыл бұрын

Glad your ok man. A race car has 2 jobs. 1st is to protect the driver. 2nd is to win. You have your priorities right. I hope others take what you say seriously. Fire is no joke.

@KDUBBS15 3 жыл бұрын

Great Videos!!!! Take pride knowing that your knowledge, insight and suggestions could very well save lives 👍

@ericbastion2149 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for Sharing it helps the racing community for sure keep up the good videos

@yeahok115sure 3 жыл бұрын

That no prep racer Dirty 30 needs to watch this video series on fire safety. His wreck was nasty and the fire was nastier

@Dave_Hulsey 3 жыл бұрын

Your best video yet, the 3 most informative. Glad you safe and able to teach others.

@sickthemag 3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@Canadianchucknorris69 3 жыл бұрын

Another excellent video, thanks for sharing!

@tchiwam 3 жыл бұрын

Fire suppression systems indoor every 2 years. Outdoors use in many cases, manufacturers recommendation and local law may ask for 1 year. On the 5th year, make an exercise and pull it to get a feel of what it does, how long, how hard to pull and are you able to do it tied up in a smoky cabin... Same thing with 1st aid kit, when it is time to replace it open every single old item and play with them.

@chrisrogde393 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! Truly sorry about your car, Glad you okay and can share your insight!

@jaredspear8140 3 жыл бұрын

Great info Tom! We actually just bought a fire system. Partly because of your fire and many others I’ve seen this year. We run E85 but having a fire system on board just gives me piece of mind. Parts failure happens, human error happens. Just one more, extremely inexpensive piece, to safety! Thanks for the info!

@LycheeMonstaMedia 3 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah! Love the videos man. ❤

@masskilla469 3 жыл бұрын

Great information!!

@theoldbigmoose 3 жыл бұрын

Great advice and insight on the automated fire systems.

@oldandboosted 3 жыл бұрын

Actually I am listening to what you say. The voice of experience is valuable. I am gearing up to race a 74 Dodge Challenger for no prep stuff and I am having a fire system installed and upgrading my fire suit. Thank you for the advice

@patriot2164 3 жыл бұрын

One of the best video's on safety equipment , Anyone that thinks it can't happen is foolish

@jwill3021 3 жыл бұрын

That car behind him is awesome i love the twin headlight conversion.

@BadLogan426 3 жыл бұрын

Both videos are great,i have three friends that have been in Methanol fires,one in a Funnycar and two in Pro Mods and the safety equipment saved their lives with no or minor fysical damage.

@brandonfox1617 3 жыл бұрын

The new fire system sounds like a great improvement. Looking forward to seeing a video on it once you have it

@georgedavelaar2086 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for those great tips about safety.

@orig6redwings124 3 жыл бұрын

Tom, great video and plug for Skinny Kid Race Cars!! They're legendary in this area (Walled Lake/Commerce) and as an Olds guy, I love that Cutlass. If you ever happen to read this, I'd love to come check out your shop!! Plus, loved the videos where you let Cleetus drive Sick Seconds 1.0!

@chrismadaj8751 2 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate you doing this video explaining things especially on type of fire rated suits you use and having your own routine on exiting the car. The only time I had a major fire in my motorhome with my kids going up north in Michigan that was scary burnt right to the ground right off i-75 it's amazing just how fast vehicles burn and it was a real windy day it got so hot that It reversed Arch The springs in the front end. Because you are going 200 plus mph people don't realize how Air flow fuels the fire. GOD SPEED

@ss0073 3 жыл бұрын

Well, at least I’m not the only one that has a mess to get together before drag week.

@Deuce1550 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thank you. Also, do you have a link to the 1.0 fire? I feel like I remember seeing that one 7 or 8 years ago (but might not have been yours I remember)

@Gunbudder 3 жыл бұрын

That second of panic when you think you are trapped because the belt didn't come off is hard to describe. you don't experience that often in life

@andrewgrant3470 3 жыл бұрын

Great info and interesting about the different system and no residue. As for the pin in the fire system I agree that most systems have a pin or a safety in that is a two step process to deploy. That said with the handle that you had at the time of the fire I could imagine that would be hard to pull the pin and then the handle if you were strapped in the seat. The new system with the handles next to the shifter would be much easier even if it’s still two steps pull the pin then the handle. Out of interest I wonder how many guys run touch drills with those sort of emergency situations so that you can do it by feel if the cabin is full of snake and fire and you can’t see

@jadoubleu6087 3 жыл бұрын

Seriously glad you're safe after that Tom love to watch you race man I caught you with Derek old vise grip garage I watch yours in his regular man anyway thanks for the great entertainment dude stay safe out there your friend and biggest fan NORTH GEORGIA MIKE

@danmyers9372 3 жыл бұрын

Great video Tom. So a question: does the pin on the system have to be pulled for the passenger compartment automatic deployment to work?

@robertsinclair 3 жыл бұрын

Very interesting video!

@redrum7834 3 жыл бұрын

thanks mate, good job. I watched all the way through. New subscriber, found you from Cleetus via 1320.

@bobroberts2371 3 жыл бұрын

Tom's 2 vids have been great however I counter the " fire pin in " portion. Yes, the pin is in place in an extinguisher hanging on the wall however the risk of fire is generally low in a typical building. In a race car, the risk of fire is much higher so the system should be ready at all times the car is ready to race. Given Tom has been on fire to varying degrees 6 times in 8 years I'd call that high risk.

@WowCreativeUsername 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@alraybaca6235 3 жыл бұрын

Thinks for sharing

@Hutch400 3 жыл бұрын

Great Vid ! How do you test the lines and switches to know they work? Without using the bottles?

@Jim_M_75 3 жыл бұрын

Really believe these videos are gold, who better to tell younger guys about safety than a man who built / ran the fastest streetcar in the world. We're all invincible when young till we aren't. Massive respect for taking time out to try and save lives Tom, while giving a look behing the scenes of the highest level racing.

@sickthemag 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you are liking them!

@richardhead4983 2 жыл бұрын

Well done!

@pjbth 3 жыл бұрын

Have to set a new lap time at the freedom factory with the new car! Project Phoenix! Thanks for answering about why you didn't use the fire system!

@cbernatineify 3 жыл бұрын

A lot of good info on his perspective about fire safety . A lot I didn't think about an I like the fire system is switching to

@sickthemag 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@lonnyself3920 3 жыл бұрын

ya worst part is the stuff is so thin it gets in the smallest crack and it vapors real bad too

@michaelperham694 3 жыл бұрын

First comes right then and only then comes fast!!! Thanks Tom

@quickdeuce 3 жыл бұрын

The 2 step fire system initiation. The only thing to consider is in the event you've hit the wall and got knocked out,, you can't pull the pin and if the Safety Safari - OR - what ever sort of SAFETY team are at an unsanctioned event,, can they get to you quickly enough to get you out. I believe the automated start is the way to go.

@Jatiskati 3 жыл бұрын

Just wondering if it is possable to put some sort of additve in the mathanol so that you can see the flames.

@scario64 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome.....Thanks

@sickthemag 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@mrlayhee 3 жыл бұрын

Good sheet!

@scottwhitmer2034 3 жыл бұрын

We ran an additive in our dirt modified that made the Alky visible when it burned!

@nkill6 3 жыл бұрын

What's it called

@scottwhitmer2034 3 жыл бұрын

@@nkill6 I don't know , it was already in the alky when we bought it. Smelled like grape kool aide.

@nkill6 3 жыл бұрын

@@scottwhitmer2034 I think we Americans could learn a lot from Ozzy methanol racing

@amd64online 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate.

@sickthemag 3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

@nsboost 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Tom link to the new o rings? Thank you!

@LocoFabandMachineworks 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve fitted a lifeline zero (uk company) fire suppression system to a track car. It discharges a clear gas with no residual to clean up It’s quite expensive to refill a 10lb bottle at around 500aud but well worth it This system in particular had a closed loop electrical switch to activate it (kinda cool but also easy to accidentally hit it - which I did as during wiring the car it up hence I know how clean it is)

@JimSealyJr 3 жыл бұрын

It would be interesting to see how different that sort of fire looks on an IR camera video. Seems like it might be a useful tool for the fire team.

@danielbeer8922 3 жыл бұрын

What if you where doing some sort of racing week in the south like Oklahoma or Texas and it gets to 110 out side. It could get to 179 inside car. What would you do so it doesn’t auto deploy then?

@tehserval 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for proving my point with the pin in the handle. the vid of the fire i had some guys arguing with me about leaving the pin in. lol

@danmyers9372 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, my question is if the automatic deployment system he talked about still requires pulling the pin. I’m guessing that it does and that if the pin is left in (like most racers seem to do) the “automatic” system can’t deploy the retardant. I get racers not wanting to pull the pin and risk an accidental deployment. Wondering what other methods could be designed into the system vs the pin.

@ericreinoehl9402 3 жыл бұрын

Well done

@laurean5998 3 жыл бұрын

Have you considered putting a flame arrestor (like in a davy lamp) in the fuel cell vent?

@bigdogscooby2029 3 жыл бұрын

Love the videos need to get a lapel mic as its very quiet in the video

@vladimirpetrov2250 2 жыл бұрын

I hate that the like button is so close to the dislike button. Lol. This video is very important for safety.

@soonerchris1179 3 жыл бұрын

Followed you for years. I thought the hissing sound before you got the car stopped in the fire video was fire suppression system. Was that the CO2 bottle after those lines melted?

@mechanicallycreative9788 3 жыл бұрын

Differences between methanol and ethanol other than stoich? More power obviously, what's the effective octane number? How much more timing over say pure ethanol on a big turbo car could you run? How much better are the evaporative cooling effects?

@scottwa 3 жыл бұрын

Is the fuel pressure that high to overcome the cylinder pressure under boost? Higher pressure generally reduces actual flow, a friend pointed that out to an Indy team that was testing and he recommended lowering fuel pressure and running a much larger injector for their car. Fixed the issue it was having that raising fuel pressure had just been making worse.

@LTV_inc 3 жыл бұрын

O rings, people think that if it’s round and still connected it’s good. Having designed aerospace parts for years there are specific tolerances that need to be held in order for the o ring to seal and perform correctly. If the o ring has a nick it’s no good, if the o ring is no longer round in cross section it’s no good if the groove it sits in is not within tolerance it’s no good (look at a Parker catalog and see the required groove size and tolerances) there is a large safety margin but..... take it from an old guy who knows, learn a little bit about material and groove maintenance if you want that 30cent part to work.

@fmerkl 3 жыл бұрын

Great Video Tom !!! NHRA Tech B1925

@sickthemag 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@fmerkl 3 жыл бұрын

@@sickthemag Wish more people would watch this vid!!

@gregm784 3 жыл бұрын

I like the auto deploy. I'll be looking into that.

@lukealeckson3525 3 жыл бұрын

Would you consider having a separate fire suppression system dedicated to your engine bay and another one to the cabin so you can isolate where you spray so your not second guessing your self if you fire it and make a mess?

@fridaynightgamefilm 3 жыл бұрын

Racetracks need to consider Ultra High Pressure fire suppression systems on their fire safety trucks. They use powerful pressure washer motors (~ 25 HP) to create a mist of super fine water droplets. By maximizing the surface area of the water, the powerful blast of water mist instantly cools the source of the flames to the point where combustion can't be maintained. These systems can also blast their mist into an engine compartment through the front radiator grill, or through any crack in the hood or wheel wells. These systems can also add foam, to prevent any burn back (fire restarting). Companies like Pyro Lance make systems that can penetrate a wall (or a car panel) to extinguish a fire behind a barrier.

@helipilotuh1 3 жыл бұрын

Instead of a pin, you should use 20 thou copper safety wire. You will have to change it every few years but it removes a step. We use it in Aviation.

@RagdollRacingInc 3 жыл бұрын

Hi mate cool vids

@billallen4793 3 жыл бұрын

Be carefull with those 175deg auto fire system.. my buddy had one go off in the car at a car show, with the car all closed up. Scared the 💩 out of the people near by...lol.. but if your car is painted a dark color, open the doors at the show so it doesn't bake and melt the little wax ball...from Wyoming USA 🔫🤠🇺🇸p.s stay safe

@HemiPhenom955 3 жыл бұрын

oh my lanta!!!!!! theTalladega!!

@danmyers9372 3 жыл бұрын

Fire is scary stuff and especially methanol based fires. There are racers who’s racing programs would probably benefit from using methanol. as I live in a very hot and arid area and using methanol would allow greater consistency when the air temperature sky rockets. Most won’t go near methanol due to fire concerns.

@osceolaassassin3188 3 жыл бұрын

After being there at GatorNationals and witness to the fire we saw you were OK, but we knew the car was going to be in rough shape. And now after watching all three videos I am left wondering. Do you plan to rebuild like Frankenstein to give it new life or create a whole new monster?

@young11984 3 жыл бұрын

Under the hood on a street car 179* seems a little of a low temp to set the fire suppression off especially if still has stock inner fender aprons, turbo and just radiant heat in general. I guess placement would be a priority on the sensor then as to not set it off from having it in the wrong place. Love the vids Tom, i use to race without any safety equiptment except a helmet but i guess as i get older i know my time is getting shorter on earth so the money spent is not as important as preserving another day above ground

@jonkeau5155 3 жыл бұрын

He’s running a nitro/methanol mix, those engines tend to run so cold they have problems getting up to operating temperature! Those Australian burnout cars that run methanol don’t even need radiators because the fuel cools the engine so much!

@NBSV1 3 жыл бұрын

That’s the temp in the passenger compartment that it’ll set it off.

@robertprice2108 3 жыл бұрын

@@NBSV1 yes I think it is. I know mine is mounted right by my shifter an if I'm correct the guy told me it would go off at 175° an think it's the best thing. I always worried that if I hit the wall an was knocked out an a fire started that I at least stud a chance of not getting burned as bad until they get to me an put the fire out.

@young11984 3 жыл бұрын

@@NBSV1 ok cool, i thought he said in the engine compartment. If its 179* inside its some real bad shit happening and should have been out by then, just hope its a fast acting sensor.

@young11984 3 жыл бұрын

@@jonkeau5155 did you see the radiator on that car, its 3 times the size of a standard truck radiator plus he plainly said he runs Methanol. He would not have that monster on there if he wasnt keeping some serious heat down, ive seen several Aussie burnout cars built and they all have a coolant system because at 5k rpm+ Methanol doesnt cool the liners, oil and other parts of the engine for 2-3min at nearly full throttle

@foxrace0985 3 жыл бұрын

Dang hope you had a conversation with cleetus about his helmet mask.

@charliegivilancz6412 3 жыл бұрын

Having a fuel cell in the engine area (although it's pretty small) means that an engine fire can cause it to burst. I put a lot of insulating materials on my turbos and my hoses that might get overheated. Is that something you might be considering to keep heat away from the cell? Or am I confused about that aluminum cell that burst?

@SC457A 3 жыл бұрын

I think his previous video he stated the fire in the engine compartment made it's way to the fuel tank's vent and then the flame front made it's way inside and that was the reason the cell burst.

@charliegivilancz6412 3 жыл бұрын

@@SC457A Good catch I do remember that now. So can the vent tube be moved far enough away from the engine compartment without causing a vacuum as fuel is pumped to the injectors? At the end of the day it may not even matter as there was so much fuel being sprayed at high pressure past the broken O-ring but just trying to think out of the box for both failures.

@jsmcortina 3 жыл бұрын

@@charliegivilancz6412 Or add some gauze (a filter) over the vent to act as a barrier to the flame. Kind of like a "Davy Lamp" that miners used to stop explosions.

@joshuagibson2520 3 жыл бұрын

I walk woods full off copperheads, crazy spiders, and bugs, etc. Im not afraid of guns, getting mugged, or rogue cops. Im not afraid of much, but there's one thing in this world I fear, and respect. Gasoline and other easily combustible fuels.

@McCillian 3 жыл бұрын

Damn.. I didn't realize that the one fireball he showed was of him.. lol..

@randalljames1 3 жыл бұрын

Driver/owners... while you may not think a lot about it... crew watching from the starting line go through a lot when the car catches fire.. No one cares about the car... but that period of time when the fire starts and the crew see you clear of the car? eternity.. Bad part is you tuck that car up against the wall and knocks your ass out? yea, not good.. We hit the opening in the wall at Firebird (Chandler) at 240mph.. driver knocked out, car on fire.. fire system is the only reason we got our driver back..

@ilaril 3 жыл бұрын

When s#%t hits the fan and you survive, you assess the damages, take notes what lead to what and changes things better. As scary as it seemed, luckily it "only" cost the car, or parts of it. Those you get new ones. Only one of you brother, there's no replacing of that. Now waiting the birth of a new, improved Sick Seconds; Fine Seconds, maybe?

@xozindustries7451 3 жыл бұрын

Are the new o rings Nitrile?

@darrylplayer 3 жыл бұрын

My concern not mentioned in the three videos, what happens if you are slammed into the wall on the driver's side, do you have another exit other than the driver's door. You briefly mention there was another way to open the door but no real detail. And really just bringing it up in case there is not another way out and you just have not thought of it, or others building their cars have not thought of it.