What the Heck is a BBE Sonic Maximizer!?!

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What the Heck is a BBE Sonic Maximizer!?! Is it a secret weapon, or straight up yuck?
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05:18 The BBE is in the loop between the Soldano and the VHT
07:12 The BBE is applied after recording, in the mix for the BE100
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@waynerock66 4 жыл бұрын

Thr BBE used in a tasteful way is the best thing ever invented.

@Bridging_the_Political_Divide 2 жыл бұрын

They are amazing.

@ChristopherKempNOLA 2 жыл бұрын

Couple things to note: first, these devices were really popular when most speaker systems relied on passive crossovers. Passive crossovers work on the output energy from the amplifier itself - it’s an all or nothing proposition with the signal, and it causes the highs and lows to fight each other for resources. Selective delay of the lower frequencies basically gave a slight advantage to the higher frequencies when it comes to getting those resources in the first place. Then add to that the definition control, which is essentially a compressor/expander, Adjusting the level of mid or highs dynamically in an attempt to compensate and keep the program material somewhat balanced. Now, most speaker systems rely on active crossovers that affect the signal before the amplifiers (plural). That also allows the speaker designer to compensate for anomalies between the two drivers, so maximizer devices are less useful. Second, as far as guitar tone is concerned it totally makes sense to me that this would help a scooped-mids metal tone. The guitar is a mid range instrument; by scooping all the meds out you’re taking a lot of the power of the instrument away, so a device that boosts highs and lows would add support to the weaker parts of the instrument’s tone, making it sound more powerful.

@chungaleta1234 4 жыл бұрын

The Pedal version is called Sonic Stomp. I've used it for years as the last pedal in my FX loop chain, and I love it. Specially in Marshalls.

@louderthangod 4 жыл бұрын

Loved these in the late 90’s when I super scooped my eq and had tons of gain till I was in an actual band and my tone totally disappeared.

@erpece 4 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@Nightdare 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the good old "Pissed off wasps in a box"-setup, double the hair using a SS preamp and a Boss DS-1 set to distortion

@flinto2002 3 жыл бұрын

100% Sounds fabulous in the bedroom/by yourself....makes your guitar invisible in a band

@WolfgangR5150 3 жыл бұрын

@@flinto2002 only if you have no idea to dial in tone.

@WolfgangR5150 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, blame your gear for you lack of ability to dial in tone.

@JonDeth 21 күн бұрын

*Wow, I genuinely recognize it in a lot of old recordings.* I haven't read about these in years to have even remembered what they do without watching your video. I can understand this one fading out of popularity, *but the exciters had such amazing potential for the ultimate tube simulation circuitry.* A sophisticated exciter allowing you to hand select harmonic frequencies and set their magnitude coupled with a sophisticated EQ would enable us to produce an exact harmonic fingerprint of every tube amp and it's preamp tubes on earth. Digital emulation is currently so good though, there's no incentive to revive the technology granted for vocals and other instruments it could still be quite valuable.

@henryssurfshowcase 11 ай бұрын

Seems like it does great for clarifying low end stuff like kick drum, bass etc..

@Drylogic_kills 4 жыл бұрын

I had the rack unit back in the 90s and I used it with a dual rec. Always been a fan.

@kelownatechkid 2 жыл бұрын

I love this thing! Great video

@TheIronWord 4 жыл бұрын

Perfect, exactly what i was looking for.!

@BretNor 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that video. I’ve been thinking about adding one to my pedal board. Now i know what i want to do.

@hollywoodjakespeed8354 4 жыл бұрын

I use my old BBE, from the late ‘80s, in my home stereo. Love it! Still works it’s magic.

@MiamiTabor 3 жыл бұрын

I had one in my guitar rack. Used as season to taste. I loved what it did. Thanks for explaining.

@jamisonfrench Ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing the info on the Aphex in comparison. Exactly what I was looking for.. ✌️

@gelatinous6915 2 жыл бұрын

They also work really really well for mixing with tape. Back in the day, working with anything but the top quality reel to reels meant a mid bump, wonky low end, and a hi rolloff. A sonic maximizer works wonders for remastering and working with old tape.

@todd6726 3 жыл бұрын

I used these quite a bit. It affects different amps in different amounts. It is awesome for Marshalls. I used it with my Dean Markley tube amp and it was like taking a blanket off your amp. It really emphasizes the clarity of an amp. It makes a lot of sense because it is allowing the speaker to reproduce all the frequencies better without as much freq cancellation.

@Daddy53751 3 жыл бұрын

I used to run one of those earlier BBE’s as a bassist in the early 90’s. Sounded fantastic!

@jameslane9537 3 жыл бұрын

I have a "Sonic Stomp" that I run in the FX loop of my MP-1. It seems to bring out the highs and "de-mud" the overall sound.

@FelineGuitars 3 жыл бұрын

I love my BBE sonic maximisers. The secret is to use them with subtlety/taste and not overdo the control settings Sound awesome on a bass , and once tried in a HiFi becomes hard to no have it on in there

@jamiew.lacroix7055 Жыл бұрын

I too had this very delightful piece of rack gear, and I must say your Knight of the Round Table like dedication to how the Tone's of the God's in achieved is so very appreciated. I use the plugin suite on a tone of stuff, Thanks for your hard work on this video.

@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын

I LOVE my BBE SM! For metal, it tightens my low end!

@spidgeb3292 3 жыл бұрын

I have the pedal version for my guitar pedalboard. It's an essential, always-on, set-it-and-forget-it pedal on my board. Adds a lot of dimension and depth to the sound. I bought a backup pedal too, because I never want to be without it.

@GucciPonderosa Жыл бұрын

Where in your chain do you have it?

@spidgeb3292 Жыл бұрын

@@GucciPonderosa It's the very last pedal before the amp. I don't have an effects loop so pedal board goes right into the amp input. I've tried the pedal at the very front of the pedal board, too, and I really can't tell much of a difference. Putting it at the end was the result of reading some chats about the pedal. Consensus seemed to be to put it at the end.

@GucciPonderosa Жыл бұрын

@@spidgeb3292 very helpful. Thanks so much!

@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 3 ай бұрын

I used it on my original 5150 and 5150 cab in the 90s for live shows. It was a definite improvement.

@StreetforceGermany 4 жыл бұрын

Using my BBE 422 for over 25 year between my Mixer Output and Soundprozessor Input of my PA System. For me it´s a must because it sounds great and gives you an extra cleanness !

@jackbenson8228 4 жыл бұрын

yay. works awes on my 5150ii great content bro!! cheers from new zealand \m/

@hkguitar1984 4 жыл бұрын

I like them, Yay Of course I'm older and grew up in the 70s & 80s, so they sound pretty normal to me!

@mhoff7722 4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha loved these. Still have a mint one in a box from back in the day when I was trying to recreate Viv Campbell's monster rack. Very aurally exciting times 🤘🤘🤘

@mhoff7722 4 жыл бұрын

@-/ 🤣🤣🤣

@JRP3music 4 жыл бұрын

Yay, it really depends on the application. It was used in my bands PA.

@peterknicked 3 жыл бұрын

Yay. I have been using them since 1992. It is addictive for sure. Makes effekts pop out and the tone gets better, at least to me it does. Love my BBE 462 in the rack.

@NoelFernandes 6 ай бұрын

I use the 462 maximizer after my loadbox, to recover that “breathe” that all loadboxes muffles

@firefight77 3 жыл бұрын

I had one in my rack along with a Rocktron velocity power amp and GSP 2101 and it sounded sick.

@SeanLaMontagne 2 жыл бұрын

I could see this being applied phenomenally with the right reverb

@frantisca 4 жыл бұрын

I have the Sonic Stomp pedal. I'd say Yay for some amps: where you don't have a mid pot, it takes a bit the mud off and enhances clarity, without scooping the tone too much. Easy on the settings though.

@claretimus 4 жыл бұрын

Got one and I must say it is awesome. I mean if you like sharp trebly distortion...I wanted to nail that Paul Gilbert 80s / early 90s tone and this thing totally delivers it.

@90sPunkRockCovers 4 жыл бұрын

I used to rock one with my '98 Triple Recto in the early 2000's, I used to dig it. Just gotta be subtle with the dials.

@michaelsmilek2404 4 жыл бұрын

I still love my BBE’s. I have the same unit! Love Em! 👍🏻

@jimbeaux4988 4 жыл бұрын

We used it on PA back in the day as a handy quick bass or treble booster and it worked quite well. I think maybe a good eq on guitar would provide more versatility, but who knows.

@davidbrucemusicvideo 2 жыл бұрын

I used a BBE select maximizer on my PA set up for years, and it gave me so much more about amend, even though I was using 18 inch subwoofers. As a solo LoopingArtist with multiple instruments on stage, I like a big huge sound, not just loud, but big. The BBE help me with that greatly. When I bought a bag and PA system, I didn’t need to use this anymore because they have timeline in their equipment. I now mainly use a QSC K.2 powered system with 10 inch mains, and a single 12 inch subwoofer. The thing sounds huge, sounds amazing! I’m wondering if I should start using a BBE again to give it even more kick.

@originalfallinggirl 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent explanation 👍

@weLoveAnimation 4 жыл бұрын

Great video - i think you're making a great point. It's a piece of kit that served it's purpose (ans still does occasionally), but should be used with taste.. And yes, i was one of those kids beefing up my Digitech 21Ledend sound - scooped mids and a BBE - hahaha - it made it bearable if you will :) - Love your Videos!!

@KodyXXVll 2 жыл бұрын

i use the desktop version on my tube amp's fx loop at the end of the chain and it's like taking a blanket off of my speaker, sounds amazing. wouldn't play my amp without it. i also hook it up last right before my focusrite interface when recording directly from pedalboard, using an amp sim pedal like the ACS1 from walrus or Iridium.

@michael_caz_nyc 4 жыл бұрын

I used to use an aphex aural exciter on my mix-downs in the recording studio. Most clients liked it for more punch and detail in the final 2 track mix.

@tone-talk 4 жыл бұрын

Sounded great on the Soldano. The BE didn’t need it. Cool video!

@BigHairyGuitars 4 жыл бұрын

I agree. There are times when it really compliments the Soldano. NO bueno with the BE100. I was pretty sure that would happen. haha

@thefilmpoets Жыл бұрын

The Aurel exciter is similar and was used on lots of 80's vocals like Steve Perry and Stevie Ry Vaughn. I suspect Hury Lewis too.

@gioelevio1626 4 жыл бұрын

I had a BBE for some time. I used it basically to make my amp sound more open at low volumes 🚀

@BigHairyGuitars 4 жыл бұрын

OH yeah! It's like the "Loudness" switch on old stereo systems. So at low volumes you still get tons of thump!

@gioelevio1626 4 жыл бұрын

Michael Nielsen yes the added definition compensated well for the dull tone causated by the Thd hotplate. 🚀

@Terribleguitarist89 4 жыл бұрын

I used one on my Dual Recto when I wanted to use it at "house volumes". Gave it back the balls without the wife cutting off mine. In a band context definitely didn't use it.

@gioelevio1626 4 жыл бұрын

@Mykal Anstrom Haha always better to be cautious 😂! Rectos seem to be already quite scooped in the mid so I can imagine that in a band you don't need to enhance that.

@Polentaccio 4 жыл бұрын

Used to have the pedal version, I thought it was "cheating" somehow and got rid of it but it did sound really good. I loved the sound of this thing in this video as well. Sort of a one trick pony to tighten the highs and juice up the lower mids but it sounds really good.

@spidgeb3292 3 жыл бұрын

That's exactly the kind of "cheating" I want to do.

@stefanosella5719 4 жыл бұрын

I have it and use it all the the time.... at low stage volume is amazing...

@mattcero1 Жыл бұрын

I watched this to investigate one being sold on CL. Will this make vocals only sound better? And where would I put it in the chain? Thank you and indeed a great video.

@mvwoon 5 ай бұрын

EQ makes vocals sound better first of all. Or a focusrite voice pro processor. Anything recorded to tape will sound better with Sonic maximizer. I use it on 2 ch buss processing.

@Johnmannish Жыл бұрын

Does it go in front of the amp after pedals or in the FX loop? in the effect loop i hat it, too btight

@aliveandfilming2 3 жыл бұрын

BIG Yay! Finally A demo on the BBE ........ mines a 422A . Love it My buddy used to borrow mine for his home sound system, made his cd's sound like DAT..... Damn you just enumerated all the reasons why I bought mine lol... I use mine in stereo between my classic 60/60 and real tube 2 preamp by BK Butler. I usually cranck the contour and definition knows at 3 and 4pm . Never tried it against solid power amps like yours ,, but it makes my cheaper end power amp sound 2000$$ more expensive 😆 Great video as usual Michael 👌

@ibanezrg320fm 3 ай бұрын

Im using a Sonic Stomp sonic maximizer with my AxeFx 3 and LOVE IT. It completely cleans up everything. Since the AxeFx 3 doesn't have an effects loop, I've used input/output channel 3. So it's: Guitar > Looper > Drive > Amp > Cab > Tone Match block (because for some reason it gives it clarity without actually using it but just having it on) and then input of the Sonic Stomp goes to the Output of Channel 3 and the Input of Channel 3 goes into the Ouput of the Sonic Stomp so this is all after the amp,cab, tone match, and then > Mixer (because adding a channel for some reason defaults to Mono Right speaker only ans there is no way of fixing this for pedals that don't have stereo outs, and then > Chorus > Delay > Reverb It really, and I can't stress this enough, completely changes the sound of all my presets for the AxeFx 3 and I love it. I've always had an issue with AxeFx sounding muddy and flubby and super dull no matter what I do and the Sonic Stomp tightens it all up. My metal tones sound amazing with that thing. I don't ever want to play the AxeFx without it now so it is dedicated to on every time I boot it up.

@ale211850 Жыл бұрын

What about Apex, for guitar is it better model with big bottom or older model without big bottom. Thanks

@tonyspada2744 Жыл бұрын

Been using these for years in my studio and touring rig

@av8tordonny398 Жыл бұрын

In the 90’s, my rack had one in it, and it was magic with my ADA MP1

@drewjones9162 Жыл бұрын

Really useful for Bass guitar too

@dungysphincter7974 9 ай бұрын

I still use the BBE Sonic Maximizer together with my Aphex Aural Exciter. I use them in my David Hafler Dynaco circuit based home theater system. I also use a 12AU7 based Tube Pre-Amplifier. I use class D amplifiers due to their bass authority, and sterile analytical sound. What I end up with is a lush smooth creamy sound due to the synergy of all my gear. Clean, crisp and detailed. I have an almost unlimited sound stage. I can dial in-and-out the width, and depth to taste. Imaging is out of this world. I feel very fortunate that I want for nothing having the audio rig I have. I feel I have reached that satisfaction level we all seek building our audio rigs

@cajun3197 2 жыл бұрын

I have a bbe and it works well for solid state amps to give them some boldness.

@MarkBreton 2 жыл бұрын

I've used a bbe in my live acoustic rig. I don't play live for the time being so it is in my preamp rack for recording. I really don't use it there but I will use the plugin. I will use it, see what needs to be cleaned up and then turn it off and work on the tracks without it. If I didn't have my UA multiband compressor I think I'd need the bbe a lot more

@davedynamite77 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve used one since the 90s on my rack now I use the sonic maximizer pedal

@robbievalentine8239 4 жыл бұрын

I really like the bbe sonic maximizer pedal in the effects loop of an Amp without a presence or resonance Control.. For example, the carvin bel air has a presence on th clean channel (which sounds great) but not on the soak channel (which people claim is muddy and dark sounding) The bbe in the loop helps balance that sound out a great deal. So does a ddpw my little klony in front but that's another conversation.

@PauloMarconi65 Жыл бұрын

I have 2 BBE 462, one in home studio and one used to be in the guitar rack system but I don´t use racks for several years. I´m wondering if I should test it again in a live situation. It sounds so amazing. I used to master my old tapes passing through this BBE. It really transform completely the sound in a very good way.

@the61919 4 жыл бұрын

Can I use a crossover with bbe maximizer? Would I connect crossover to mixer then from there maximizer then amplifier?

@7xchad 2 жыл бұрын

I have a rack unit with a built in noise suppressor and a sonic stomp I use with my bass amp. I typically use it in an aux send on vocals and acoustic instruments and it really adds clarity to those sources in a busy mix. Go light on the Process though or the highs can become piercing, but set sparingly it really livens up a live mix.

@gissingsen 2 жыл бұрын

Nice explanation

@witnessthewrath8061 4 жыл бұрын

Will this work in my outboard rack or would I need a different version

@nigel900 Жыл бұрын

I’ve been using the Sonic Stomp on my rigs for 15 years now… wouldn’t be without them. 👍🏻

@JandNandJ 4 жыл бұрын

I still have my old 462 rack mount BBE! I haven't used it in a while, but I'll always have a soft spot for it. So it's a Yay from me.

@michaelgaurnier3108 2 жыл бұрын

I had one of these combined with a crate blue voodoo in my teenage hard rock band. People with triple rectifiers and Marshall’s used to gather around to hear a sound 10x bigger than they’d every heard. One luthier said he’d never heard a sound like that since being a roadie for Metallica.

@globalmolecule 11 ай бұрын

Yeah I beatbox and loop through mine and people tell me I sound like cd quality, love the bbe since over 10 years

@harrisfrankou2368 Жыл бұрын

Made my 688 tape demos sound magnificent. Everyone in LA was like do my Demo bro!!

@KILLRITUAL 2 жыл бұрын

I've used one forever and yep makes everything sound better when used in moderation.

@zyxwfish 2 жыл бұрын

Messing around recording I like using an EQ scooped but you get a huge volume cut so live I use a BBE sonic stomp in the loop or at band practice or jamming at home.

@relevantinformation6655 3 жыл бұрын

I have quite a few of those and apex units we used to use in the 80’s - amps have come so far, they have basically been sitting for years shelved -guitar wise. A great tube preamp into a quality amp is really ideal. - However with some electronic drum sets, they can really bring out the cymbals in those going into a live set up. Just remember, less is more with these- easy to go over the top.

@nap41123 Жыл бұрын

Can I use my BBE sonic 882i maximizer with my Akai MPC ONE? If so how do I connect it?

@tim76239 3 жыл бұрын

I use to pile that into every sound system I sold in the late 80s and early 90s

@extraordinary_ordinary 3 жыл бұрын

I used one with a Marshall 9001 preamp back in the early 2000s. It was absolutely necessary with that preamp otherwise there was almost no definition.

@cobowe 2 жыл бұрын

Luv it with the Friedman

@b.scottfarthingsworth 4 жыл бұрын

If used sparingly, it's a magic tonal sweet spot. Breathes enough life into dull things. Very easy to overdo it, so always dial back when eq'ing amp/pedals etc

@PeteLamont Жыл бұрын

They put this into their acoustimax preamp pedals and it is really useful in that situation.

@SwirlingDragonMist 4 жыл бұрын

Love it! Cant wait for the Aphex video!

@avh700 2 жыл бұрын

Yay!

@michaelmitchell5909 4 жыл бұрын

I own the red and silver bbe pedal from a while back... I liked it a lot except when I run my mxr ten band eq with it in the effects loop it got to be a bit to much!... To say the least... It was either one or the other, and I chose the eq for more tone flexability with pushing the miss.... But still the bbe pedal thru an effects loop sounds amazing....

@hadleymanmusic 4 жыл бұрын

Isnt it to realign out of phase frequencys???

@GregSummersMusic 4 жыл бұрын

This was IT back in the day. Played one with a “full” jcm800 stack lol..that paired with the classic huge multi band 1u eq rack (Alesis?) wasn’t my rig but I was jealous back then.

@gitarman666 Жыл бұрын

Got one in my 90s rack with an Ada mp1 and a Eventide h3000, my stere rack amp died years ago and the “new” Mesa rectifiers were coming out so….

@ryzenryne8747 10 ай бұрын

My brother's a DJ and he loves it for the clarity of highs and lows (BBE 882i).

@johnk7093 4 жыл бұрын

had one in my M-80 rack, in a metal band from 89 to 91. Lots of bands said I needed to run Gain at 10, had mine at around 6-7.. and pushed more air with my BBE on 6 than they did with their JCMs on full gain. Loved that set up. M-80 was plugged in a Peavy Butcher Cab with 4 70W celestions... yes, had that GHUN GHUN GHUN sound. Was not lost in the mix at all.

@Johnmannish Жыл бұрын

Did you put it in front or in the fx loop of an amp?

@MrJackrockerman 4 жыл бұрын

Notes more clarity with the BBE.. Low end rumble gone.. practical for live situation.. Yay 👍

@scottdunn2178 4 жыл бұрын

In the 80's when I had a Bob Bradshaw 20 space rack that lit up like the cockpit of a 757, I had a couple of these, they were standard in just about every rig you'd see back then. I kinda looked at the Sonic Maximizer like you would use a compressor... you can set it for a very subtle effect, or you can get really crazy with it.

@Johnmannish Жыл бұрын

Did you use it in front of the amp or in the fx loop?

@scottdunn2178 Жыл бұрын

@@Johnmannish You could run it either way, but most ran it into the effects loop 👍🎸

@robinkennaird9694 2 жыл бұрын

I use the rackmount BBE 386 in front of my Pod HD 500x into the PA with my acoustic....great for tuning the guitar sound for different venues....got mine off ebay for £40!

@Wardell43 4 жыл бұрын

The first on that I bought was a new 422 that I put on my PA. In front of me at my sloppy work desk, I have a 482 for video and cds. I have a 362 and I have a 411 for guitar. I was buying a few at pawn shops and sold off some

@saltyapostle44 4 жыл бұрын

I have a BBE Sonic Stomp Pedal. It sounds like a bed sheet was over the cabinet and the unit removes it. The bass control is nice for adding richness (sort of like an amps resonance control) and the process control really makes things shimmer - affecting frequencies above the amps treble/highs control. You have to resist using too much or it gets unpleasant. I think of it as mastering for my guitar sound. That pedal combined with my always-on compressor on the lowest setting really makes a noticeable difference.

@fleekwoodmac3705 2 жыл бұрын

I run one on both snare mics and another on both bass drum mics as inserts. Low at 11oclock and contour about 1. I more or less don't have to do anything in the box with those 4 mics then. Haven't tried it on Toms or overheads yet.

@notacommie5415 4 жыл бұрын

Have a BBE Sonic stomp in my chain. It is literally like taking a blanket off of the speakers

@kylecuppett422 2 жыл бұрын

Is anyone making a current Aphex 204 big bottom? I have 4 but had a channel die and now im worried .

@scottbainetwisted_keel_adv5821 2 жыл бұрын

Me personally I think they really work and tighten everything up nice. Allows you too get really dirty and then say control it

@austinfailz 4 жыл бұрын

Uh... I'm confused? Was there supposed to be a third dial for the "Hi-Contour"?

@Yupppi 4 жыл бұрын

Good vid. There's a lot of beliefs shared over the last 20 years on internet about mythical sonic maximizer. Essentially, now that I hear it in a good comparison, it's a tone destroyer. It makes the guitar do less what it's supposed to do in a band context. Not very pleasant to my ear. A good 4x12" cab pretty much makes this effect happen with better oomph and less brittleness already.

@lushkordz6643 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 4 the explanations ...maybe you could make a demo of the Aphex as well (or even a S2S comparison with the BBE)

@Deadite8593 4 жыл бұрын

I used a BBE in the early 2000s with an ADA MP1. For that preamp it really helped thicken things up and give it some balls, haven't used a BBE in years but I think I still have one. It works great on bass drums too

@keithsaulsbury4304 3 жыл бұрын

i used to run a 362 into the loop of my Line 6 Pod Pro. sounds great through a traditional cabinet. if I was running direct into the house PA or recording direct it sounded terrible. only worked for me with a guitar cabinet.

@Error-500 2 жыл бұрын

Back in the 2000's I had a Behringer V-Amp, which sounded pretty dull and tended to disappeared in the mix when playing live. With the help of a BBE 362, however, I was always able to recover clarity and body, making it more "realistic". I recommend using it only live, because in the recording it does some strange tricks with the phase and makes it difficult to double track the guitars (especially when they are hard panned L/R)