What Things Are Real? | Episode 1308 | Closer To Truth

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Closer To Truth

Closer To Truth

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What is real? Is the physical world real? Or an expression of consciousness. Is consciousness real? Or an illusion? Is there a spirit world? Many dismiss anything other than the physical. Featuring interviews with John Hawthorne, Christopher Isham, Galen Strawson, and George F. R. Ellis.
Season 13, Episode 8 - #CloserToTruth
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Closer To Truth host Robert Lawrence Kuhn takes viewers on an intriguing global journey into cutting-edge labs, magnificent libraries, hidden gardens, and revered sanctuaries in order to discover state-of-the-art ideas and make them real and relevant.
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Closer to Truth presents the world’s greatest thinkers exploring humanity’s deepest questions. Discover fundamental issues of existence. Engage new and diverse ways of thinking. Appreciate intense debates. Share your own opinions. Seek your own answers.
#Reality #Physics

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@S.G.Wallner
@S.G.Wallner 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Lawrence Kuhn is the realest.
@dannywest8843
@dannywest8843 4 жыл бұрын
That statement is VERY... close to truth.
@jameslovell5721
@jameslovell5721 4 жыл бұрын
Real talk, team.
@johnbuckner2828
@johnbuckner2828 4 жыл бұрын
I like that word "realest" 🤔 Realer is good too
@gr33nDestiny
@gr33nDestiny 4 жыл бұрын
His productions are great too is the subscriber content recommended? Anyone?
@ar-4775
@ar-4775 4 жыл бұрын
@@gr33nDestiny I had a stroke reading your comment
@sudarkoff
@sudarkoff 4 жыл бұрын
I don't remember who said this, but I think it gets at the core of the problem: "I'm a materialist, but we don't know what the material is."
@ThePurza
@ThePurza 4 жыл бұрын
@Language and Programming Channel what do you mean by "ideas" in this context? Do you mean this in a solipsistic sense? If we believe in the abilities of other minds, then we should also be able to agree on things that are ubiquitous and independent of any observer - aka objective. Like measurements of matter.
@ThePurza
@ThePurza 4 жыл бұрын
@George that is brilliant. I love reading about quantum mechanics; it is a great mix of gaining understanding but gaining more mystery. Some of the experimental results are just baffling
@waldwassermann
@waldwassermann 2 жыл бұрын
मात्री does not want to recognize it is one so not to be alone.
@justintime453
@justintime453 4 жыл бұрын
I swear to god if I find out I'm not real Im gonna freak out
@OspreyFlyer
@OspreyFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Brace yourself... 😂
@duaneholcomb8408
@duaneholcomb8408 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe your real but ever thing else is a simulation. Jst food for thought,,
@JohnLoganR
@JohnLoganR 4 жыл бұрын
I just want to thank you Robert for all your work over the years. You are an enlightened thinker of the highest caliber!
@jkang471
@jkang471 4 жыл бұрын
I think that the ultimate reality is consciousness. Without it, nothing exists. Even if something exists, how would you know that without consciousness.
@michaelpumo83
@michaelpumo83 3 жыл бұрын
This content is a true treasure for us all. Thank you!
@danjohnson4082
@danjohnson4082 4 жыл бұрын
With all this professionally produced content, this channel should have millions of subscribers. Though sadly the masses aren't able to comprehend such deep subject matter.
@gregorylent
@gregorylent 4 жыл бұрын
production values, yes.. maturity of quest, a bit simplistic
@marintints8946
@marintints8946 4 жыл бұрын
That’s both a good comment and reply!
@marintints8946
@marintints8946 4 жыл бұрын
Language and Programming Channel Normies can’t do their job well because of poor leadership and lack of passion. You have to give the window lickers something to strive for and rely on.
@bajajones5093
@bajajones5093 4 жыл бұрын
one of the best channels of the web
@thomasmarten9634
@thomasmarten9634 4 жыл бұрын
I agree w u!😁
@josephhruby3225
@josephhruby3225 2 жыл бұрын
What a fabulous series . . . I keep in mind the immense amount we have yet to explore , to discover , to learn . What we understand now as energy and fields will eventually further reveal their elements and structure. A deeper understanding and meaning to all we know now will eventually be obtained , unified , Understood. Bringing us closer to the ultimate truth :) keep up the brilliant investigation.
@scottease1
@scottease1 4 жыл бұрын
Love this guy..👍🏼
@garybalatennis
@garybalatennis 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another video asking yet another of the fundamental questions - this one on what is “real”? My view briefly is this. What is “real”? What is “ultimate reality”? What is “truth”? The answers to these and many other related type questions (which were the subject of other of your videos, by the way) in my view depend on: A. Definition: How the word or category is defined by us; B. Subjectivity: Our subjective consciousness-filtered experience; and C. Philosophy: The philosophical base or predicate from where we start. A few quotes (real and extrapolated) to ponder on the question of what is “real”: 1. “Row, row, row your boat . . . Life is but a dream.” Children’s song 2. “The world is Maya (illusion or delusion).” Hindu philosophy 3. “The three-dimensional world of ordinary experience-the universe filled with galaxies, stars, planets, houses, boulders, and people-is a hologram, an image of reality coded on a distant two-dimensional surface.” Leonard Susskind on the Holographic Principle. 4. “Are we living in a computer simulation?” Nick Bostrum on The Simulation Hypothesis 5. “Philosophy is dead!” Stephen Hawking, The Grand Design “That, sir, is itself a philosophy!”, George Ellis
@TPGNATURAL
@TPGNATURAL 4 жыл бұрын
I heard Mr. Kuhn more than once say he wants to explore different thoughts and he stays in the Western Thought process. Mr. Kuhn if you are reading these comments explore Eastern thought and a lot will change if you are capable of letting go. Example read Zen in the Art of Archery by Eugen Herrigel. I like Closer To Truth, I am a little tried of going in circles.
@Solidude4
@Solidude4 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. This would have been a great topic to get Hindu/Buddhist views on. And please, there are other scholars out there who can discuss these topics from that perspective other than Deepak Chopra.
@TPGNATURAL
@TPGNATURAL 4 жыл бұрын
@Time to Reason I agree with you and Wesley O. no Deepak Chopra. I only suggested the book I did because it is short and from a person with a Western thought process who was able to tell their story of letting go.
@spracketskooch
@spracketskooch 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see him ask questions of someone familiar with Advaita Vedanta.
@thetruthseeker5448
@thetruthseeker5448 4 жыл бұрын
As suggested I would like to have more of Buddhist perspective than Veda/Hindu as Buddhism blatantly rejects Vedic basic principles, creation, creator god, a union with him (Brahma), trans migratory soul/athma, rebirth, rituals, born into social divisions such as jathis/varna/caste, pantheon of gods etc. Even though Buddha was born in the Subcontinent it has a unique outset against vedas. In fact Buddha rejected all of Vedic teachings. Even the terms and language is similar as Pali/Prakirti (the language of common people Buddha used by rejecting Sanskrit which the upper caste Brahmin used) is has roots in Sanskrit
@TPGNATURAL
@TPGNATURAL 4 жыл бұрын
@Language and Programming Channel I have no understanding what I know of concerning Neoplatonism. I do have a tiny understanding of Hermeticism and it is incompatible with Zen. Which Zen in the Art of Archery is about. Western equivalent to some Eastern philosophy, okay. Eastern philosophy is vast and some believe in deities, but not Jesus. Some do not believe in a deity or deities.
@JamesBS
@JamesBS 7 ай бұрын
Please interview Bernardo Kastrup. He unites the physical and the mental within a fundamentally mental reality.
@wisedupearly3998
@wisedupearly3998 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunate that categorizing reality is given such priority when the act of categorization destroys our connection with reality, our perception of reality.
@jmzorko
@jmzorko 4 жыл бұрын
Neitzsche communicated similar perspectives. He, and you, make valid points I think.
@wisedupearly3998
@wisedupearly3998 4 жыл бұрын
@@jmzorko I posit that in order to introduce his external and perfect categories Plato destroyed man's trust in his own perception. This split the Self into Persona and Shadow. The Shadow, postulated by Nietzsche, is always seen as hostile, the Black horse of Plato. The Persona is indoctrinated to believe in what society believes in. But as this indoctrination remains external to the individual, the individual sees the indoctrination as an imposition, a burden, something alien to the individual. Something that triggers irrationality in many many people.
@jmzorko
@jmzorko 4 жыл бұрын
@Language and Programming Channel To the things! :-) Actually, phenomenology is one of my favorite areas of philosophy :-)
@waldwassermann
@waldwassermann 2 жыл бұрын
Very true...
@richardvannoy7230
@richardvannoy7230 4 жыл бұрын
The purely scientific answer would be, “Something is real if it is measurable or observable”. But is that enough?
@martinchitembo1883
@martinchitembo1883 4 жыл бұрын
Wow that is a great analysis and so scientific.
@spracketskooch
@spracketskooch 4 жыл бұрын
No one can measure my hate for country music, but it's very real.
@johnbrzykcy3076
@johnbrzykcy3076 4 жыл бұрын
@Language and Programming Channel Very interesting.
@patmoran5339
@patmoran5339 4 жыл бұрын
@Language and Programming Channel I thought Einstein was the realist and Bohr the anti-realist. Einstein (thankfully) never accepted the Copenhagen Interpretation of Quantum Theory. Science is about explanation and the creation of new knowledge.
@patmoran5339
@patmoran5339 4 жыл бұрын
Language and Programming Channel I guess that makes me a realist in the real sense.
@henryespinosa9283
@henryespinosa9283 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who questions reality is thinking too much. Foremost, the one self is the most fundamental reality, like Descartes said, “I think therefore I am.” The world around us, from quantum particles to galaxies, are quite real because for every action or inaction there are consequences- it’s a fundamental principle as gravity, energy, and time.
@rikimitchell916
@rikimitchell916 4 жыл бұрын
this discussion did not start as I had anticipated ... I had imagined it was imperative to establish the difference ( categorize ) between what 'is' and what 'I perceive' ... IE how to differentiate between the two ...thereafter one can discuss what each category contains ....ultimately this all falls under the heading "what can happen (exist) will happen"...
@darektidwell1158
@darektidwell1158 4 жыл бұрын
We need the Kuhn take on Wolfram's Physics.
@robertschriek1353
@robertschriek1353 2 жыл бұрын
Your vids are brilliant!
@gr33nDestiny
@gr33nDestiny 4 жыл бұрын
What a great production, your a great writer too!
@adamkallin5160
@adamkallin5160 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's more accurate to ask: What can exist independent of other "things"?
@adamkallin5160
@adamkallin5160 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, either consiousness is fundamental, or there is a metaphysical structure or pattern that gives rise to consiousness. But it doesn't emerge from brains.
@rahusphere
@rahusphere 4 жыл бұрын
Adam Kallin what makes you say that consciousness doesn’t emerge from brains.
@jameshadaway8621
@jameshadaway8621 4 жыл бұрын
when we astro project, we aren't using our brain or body, so therefore spirit and soul.
@waynebrindley8156
@waynebrindley8156 4 жыл бұрын
Adam Kallin yes antigravitic pulse generators to transfers to the stars.
@dennisnzesya
@dennisnzesya 3 жыл бұрын
The creator exists before everything that ever has been
@513morris
@513morris 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone always uses "a table" as an example of "something made of molecules".
@thebookofla3166
@thebookofla3166 4 жыл бұрын
What is Real is dependent on one's world view. One's world view is under one's theology or philosophy. One must first choose which world view he stands upon.✌
@hansdumbf7608
@hansdumbf7608 4 жыл бұрын
people who speak very loudly, are affraid what they have to say, might be very irrelevant.
@thestonesstone2581
@thestonesstone2581 4 жыл бұрын
Then he must be terrified.
@playahship5786
@playahship5786 4 жыл бұрын
Wrong... It could be passion you stup!d dumb f(u)ck
@cynthiacummings1534
@cynthiacummings1534 4 жыл бұрын
IDK but your reply causedall of the tension caused by this these two discussion to evaporate thank you I think you are absolutely correct. My observation and perspective led me to believe that something very large was in their anal cavities they did a lot of talking but they didn't really say anything
@cynthiacummings1534
@cynthiacummings1534 4 жыл бұрын
I think we have all been guilty of that but I never ever wanted to share it with the world LOL
@hansdumbf7608
@hansdumbf7608 4 жыл бұрын
@@cynthiacummings1534 :-)
@playahship5786
@playahship5786 4 жыл бұрын
I lost all my money Gambling on the slot machines... So now I'm here driven to find why I give meaning to meaningless things... Need to wake up and focus on what is real
@johnaugsburger6192
@johnaugsburger6192 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@johnbuckner2828
@johnbuckner2828 4 жыл бұрын
7:42 "there's so many objects you wouldn't even believe it, and we just notice a few of them" I'd say this is especially accurate with quantum entanglement & non-locality; sounds like potentially infinite categories. I'm guessing that the 'amount' we don't "see" is immense. lots and lots of patterns out there and lots and lots of patterns in here. I wonder which came first, the 'blueprint' or the 'object;' or maybe Alfred North Whitehead was right, and there's a lot of co-creation of actual occasions. so many "ideas" so much "time"...and if it's block time with infinite permanent actual entities, would they have hard or fuzzy edges? I think I'm an adder, and probably wouldn't make a very good Buddhist. I like the idea of believing there is a real spoon out there which my finite perspective can prehend at least one of many real 'ways' that it actually is; it leaves open the possibility of endless exploration even though there's less certainty about the thing in itself....*queue the theme song from the original Star trek here*
@winstonchang777
@winstonchang777 2 жыл бұрын
Robert Lawrence Kuhn probably knows what is real without having to ask so many experts. His is a "good show" and I tip my hat to Robert Lawrence Kuhn for his endeavors but his spoonful of reality from the RIVER OF EVERYTHING...is IT.
@tedgrant2
@tedgrant2 2 жыл бұрын
My "mind" can easily imagine "beans on toast", but the reality is very different. Having conceived of the thing I desire, I now have to act on the world around me. I need a recipe that tells me what to do and with what to do it. My mind alone could never get me closer to truth.
@thomasridley8675
@thomasridley8675 4 жыл бұрын
Well, so far science has won every battle with faith. Religion is a rock. Science is the ocean eroding the rock away.
@thomasridley8675
@thomasridley8675 4 жыл бұрын
@Time to Reason 👍
@thomasridley8675
@thomasridley8675 4 жыл бұрын
@Language and Programming Channel Apparently no one understands the Bible. They have a multiple of Jesus/God designs as needed to fit every churches needs. At least science can say they could be wrong and work to correct any contradictions. Religions just over looks the contradictions. Resisting the obvious reality with a biblical word salad.
@StanTheObserver-lo8rx
@StanTheObserver-lo8rx 4 жыл бұрын
One thing.."An object not observed might not exist"..like Bohr's quantum ideas? How many times in your life have you been hit from behind? tackled- cars and buses? Something that exists just ran you over and it hurts like hell!
@hgracern
@hgracern Жыл бұрын
I love this ❤…a thing is a collection of properties and space doesn’t exist. Thank you. Surprising that colour was not addressed. Xx
@TheUltimateSeeds
@TheUltimateSeeds 4 жыл бұрын
I suggest that anything that resides on the opposite side of absolute nothingness is “real” in some context or another (be it objective, subjective, phenomenal, noumenal, transcendent or any other imaginable [or unimaginable] state of being).
@jeffxanders3990
@jeffxanders3990 4 жыл бұрын
Agree in any context. I think the other side of nothingness is nothingness itself, represented by the zero point field. It represents infinite density - that which is actually real - from our perspective. But from its perspective, all is the same as it is here.
@wisdomcompassion5060
@wisdomcompassion5060 4 жыл бұрын
All is energy, vibrating in different friquinces.
@tedlanz5038
@tedlanz5038 4 жыл бұрын
Trees for the forest. Forest for the Trees. We cannot just say what is fundamental because it ignores the complicated. And similarly vice-versa. For instance 'love' is fundamentally made up of quantum particles, of quarks, or superstrings and so on. But it is also the inter-play between those units creating a very complex whole! I think it ultimately boils down to..."What was the question again?". Perhaps it isn't reality that requires enquiry, it should really be the enquirer!?
@junevandermark952
@junevandermark952 2 жыл бұрын
Being that our hallucinations lead us to so many different ways of believing ... even if one set reality existed, we wouldn't be able to depend on our hallucinations to lead us to that reality.
@superdupper7465
@superdupper7465 4 жыл бұрын
reality = limitless 🙃🙂
@JadenJahci
@JadenJahci 4 жыл бұрын
The Birds & The Bees? Sincerely, Knees 19
@bille77
@bille77 2 жыл бұрын
This Kuhn dude is such a cool person.
@vijisoman5023
@vijisoman5023 4 жыл бұрын
Your questions will be answered in upanishad if you can stop pampering your ego. Truth is out there
@coudry1
@coudry1 3 жыл бұрын
Conclusion about our true identity from various internet sources, that "We are all One Consciousness" for the following reasons: 1. In this world everything must have a cause, so that something exists because of something else, so do we. 2. It would be very boring / boring if our physical form is only one in this world. 3. It would be very tedious / boring if all humans have the exact same physical form / behavior. 4. Try to imagine emptying all the physical things around us, leaving only the humans, then eliminating all the humans, leaving only the memories, then erasing all the memories, leaving only the consciousness, then connecting the consciousness, feel who we are ??. 5. Body, mind, feelings, emotions and everything else in this world is always changing, then what never changes ??, that is who we really are, namely true consciousness. If everything changes / moves who is watching, there must be someone who remains to be able to observe. 6. All humans communicate with each other is the beginning / the forerunner of humans to unite, today's electronic devices alone can unite all humans, one day the device is implanted in the human mind and in the end humans will open all access to their thoughts. 7. Our bodies are a collection / heap of accumulated memories that were carried from the beginning of the birth of the world's first human through DNA bonds continuously. 8. Twins born at close range, what if all humans were born at the same time? What would happen if the birth of all humans were not influenced by the dimensions of space and time ?? 9. Identical twins of A and B, if all of A's memories are copied to B, what is the difference ?? 10. Law of attraction (law of attraction) that our minds will attract whatever we think, because we are all like one part of the body. 11. Like several video recordings of ourselves, there are videos as vocalists, videos as violinists, as pianists, as drummers, etc. These videos are put together in one video, it will produce a more interesting orchestra, something new and more productive. our world. 12. The greatest enemy of man is himself, currently man is at war against himself. By believing we are all one, the sense of ego will fade because nothing is different between us. 13. That is why religious teachings command us to be grateful and benefit many, If you hurt others, you are actually hurting yourself, so if you are doing good to others, you are actually doing good to yourself. 14. Could it be that we are all dreaming and our dreams are meeting each other on the same frequency in parallel. Have you ever dreamed that when you sleep you switch roles as other people, it's because we are all one. 15. We are not immortal as humans so that we have time to roll through all of life. 16. "We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience" ~ Stephen Covey, Have you ever felt that our lifespan is very short, is it possible that our consciousness is immortal?. 17. We are one, only the roles are different, the memory divider between lives is what makes humans feel different / separate. It is enough by brainwashing / erasing one's memory that someone will become a different person but their awareness is still the same. 18. What is fortunate for us is ... consciousness is always looking for / looking for / having the intention / desire towards good / positive / happiness even though we have experienced various wrong ways. 19. When we die, our body and memory are destroyed, how can we remember having died. 20. Why do we have to die? ", When we say dead, one day this eternal question will be asked again and we are always there." The world is a sustainable life "~ Bruce Lipton. 21. In the beginning we were one, but split through a big bang or bigbang until we became different and separated like now, but we are equipped with a sense of love for us to reunite. 22. There is only us and a mirror of ourselves in this world, but there is still another world out there. 23. We will always smile happily seeing each person as himself "How beautiful I am" see the different self. 24. If all consciousness is told now that they are all one, whether the experience gained is enough, the consciousness is designed from the beginning to be different so that there is a lot of intrigue, consciousness is created differently so that when it comes together to have an extraordinary experience of consciousness. 25. We are alone in this universe, but there are many other universes with their own natural laws. 26. Have you ever felt that you have come to a place that has never been visited but feel familiar with that place, as if we have lived in that place sometime?. 27. The world is like a story script that is being written by the author, sometimes it is changed at the beginning, sometimes it is changed in the middle, sometimes it is changed at the end, it all depends on us as writers, and every story has a lesson that can be taken as a lesson. 28. Hair grows by itself, heart beats on its own, blood flows by itself, ideas arise by itself, etc., are we involved ??. 29. Imagine that today there has been an event that causes only you to live in this world, then who were all those yesterday ??. 30. "If Quantum Mechanism cannot surprise you, then you don't understand Quantum Physics yet. Everything that we have thought to be real, is not real." ~ Niels Bohr. 31. On the scale of quantum physics we are all connected to each other, even in double-slit experiments proving that particles change when observed or in other words consciousness can change reality, this has been proven time and time again by the Nobel Prize winners in Physics. 32. Everything we experience by our senses in the end will only be electrical impulses in the brain, is everything real ??. We are beings who are aware that we are conscious. 33. We are closer than the jugular vein. He blew some of His spirit on you. Knowing oneself means knowing its God. Surely we will return to HIM. You are far away, I am far away, you are near me. I am everywhere. Before the existence of this world there was no matter other than Him. There is only One True Spirit, namely the Creator. I live up to your preconceptions. 34. Is the creator only in charge of creating, is it possible that the creator does not want to try his creation through another perspective. 35. There is no reincarnation, it is possible that our consciousness is synchronized, our consciousness is divided by the speed of light so that consciousness can move and divide rapidly through energy, and that's why we need sleep, that's why we are often not aware of something, that's why the size of the earth is reached by the speed of light so that consciousness is divided quickly and evenly, we are like some chess pieces played by a player, that's why if we move at the speed of light, then we can penetrate the dimensions of space and time, when we die we wake up and regain consciousness as long as there are humans who live in this world. 36. Have you ever had a problem and suddenly someone came to provide a solution to the problem we were experiencing, as if someone was sent by the universe to help us in overcoming the problem, which is actually our own consciousness that sends that person to us. 37. A thousand years ago, have people seen, heard and wondered about the advancement of technology today? If we all tend to sin (corruption) then there will be a world of hell, if we all tend to do good things then it will become a heavenly world. 38. Knowledge learns the object, God who created our consciousness, cannot God be the object of knowledge. 39. It is impossible for a human creation that is only in the form of words / symbols to represent true truth. 40. What is the meaning of existence without consciousness? then we are the adventurers of this existence. 41. The life of the world is just a game and a joke, what wins the world game is the one who finds his true self. 42. When the world's existence ends we will know everything. 43. My consciousness is living a very extraordinary life experience, experiencing life with different forms and different places even though my consciousness is always the same, wow .. I'm surprised !! how broad am I. 44. We are a consciousness, a concept that can answer various things. 45. Remember when you were leaving, you were worried you would lose me ??, calm down .. I was everywhere and we will always meet again, believe me. 46. ​​Without searching, what is the difference between us in this world and us in a dream during sleep which just passes by without meaning. 47. In conclusion, whatever role we play, everything is our own design, so just enjoy it. 48. God created us to be happy, so don't disappoint God. 49. Congratulations, because all of you need proof, this is the SECRET that we are one, by we can see the other person's awareness of what he is seeing, close your eyes in a quiet place, focus your awareness on that person, so that awareness is not affected by our imagination, erases all our imaginations, practice continuously until the time comes when our awareness can see the consciousness of others, preferably people we already know. 50. ==Understand and Be Shining== source of inspiration: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gtqEa9OIrr-wZIU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/npyWlq6Qy7i9kX0.html
@sk8shred
@sk8shred 4 жыл бұрын
Where is this place at 1:04?
@lucianmaximus4741
@lucianmaximus4741 4 жыл бұрын
Kudos -- 444 Gematria -- 🗽
@rogeliocamacho8548
@rogeliocamacho8548 4 жыл бұрын
La mayoría de las opiniones ignoran algunas definiciones formales a las que se refieren al esbozar sus opiniones y se tornan algo ligeras, tal vez sea por el formato de las entrevistas. Claro cada uno redondea su propia idea enmarcada dentro de su teoría, pero no se contrasta contra ninguna idea ni se discuten algunas contradicciones o imprecisiones. Interesante pero confuso.
@marcomill4824
@marcomill4824 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you dr. Kuhn for this high quality content
@faizanrana2998
@faizanrana2998 4 жыл бұрын
That's racist
@nuwrdiynsinclair2127
@nuwrdiynsinclair2127 4 жыл бұрын
Whats the music at the end? 25:26
@domcasmurro2417
@domcasmurro2417 4 жыл бұрын
In the post-truth age, reality is just an opinion.
@ThePurza
@ThePurza 4 жыл бұрын
Yep.. Thanks go to Putin and Trump
@ferdinandkraft857
@ferdinandkraft857 4 жыл бұрын
When did the "Truth Age" ended?
@ferdinandkraft857
@ferdinandkraft857 4 жыл бұрын
@Language and Programming Channel really? So before Descartes people knew "the truth"?
@ferdinandkraft857
@ferdinandkraft857 4 жыл бұрын
@Language and Programming Channel thanks for the elaborate response.
@kallianpublico7517
@kallianpublico7517 4 жыл бұрын
Facts are not truths. But more importantly truth is not a fact. Facts are what historians and journalists deal with. These are pieces of information that we can reach agreement on because they can be independently corroborated. They include things like births, deaths, times, places, and other corroborateable phenomena whose definitions we agree on. Science deal with phenomena whose definition are agreed upon, but whose "facts" are called measurement, methodology and models. The "facts" of science are not the same as the facts of journalists because science tweaks their measurements, methodologies and models. A journalist cannot tweak the time and place of a birth or death; that would change their facts. The phenomena that science mostly deals with are not as readily corroborateable. The corroborations of science require apparatus of measurement, equations of methodology and salience of modeling. Anyone who thinks that opinions are facts or that scientific predictions are facts is not telling the whole story. Scientists aren't prophets, politicians aren't scientists and journalists who can't tell the difference between the two aren't disseminating news they're spreading propaganda. The best science can predict some things accurately. But not all things are prone to accurate prediction. Some things are too complex, like weather. Beyond the 10 day forecast weather has too many variables to predict accurately. Some things are simply the result of a manageable amount of variables and those predictions can be precise. Judging which type scientists have on their hands is a before the fact guessing game and an after the fact blame game. Science is only as good as its measurements, methodologies and models. If any one of those three are off their predictions will be off. By a little or a lot. In a few years we will know the truth of the matter and we can judge better if this really was a postfact age or a guerilla journalism age or simply a shell game meant to confuse our enemies.
@440s
@440s 4 жыл бұрын
Well, depends on what you meant by real
@dennistucker1153
@dennistucker1153 4 жыл бұрын
To me, so many answers to questions like this depend on the definitions involved. What is meant by the words "Things" and "Real". Things, seems really vague. A bundle of properties? Maybe. To me, things are items that may or may not be tangible and are recognizable. A thing may or may not be real. Real to me, are things that have at least some evidence that supports it's existence. Real includes things like matter, energy, patterns and thoughts.
@ThePurza
@ThePurza 4 жыл бұрын
The reason why these people don't echo your thoughts, is that they are aware of what quantum experiments are telling us. It's not enough to trust things at the macro-level, they are merely manifestations of the micro-level - which is far more challenging to define
@johncadiz4007
@johncadiz4007 4 жыл бұрын
Try to love that does not deal with human interest. When you accomplish that you find the truth what is real and what is not .
@sokar9438
@sokar9438 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think anything exists except conciousness
@eddenz1356
@eddenz1356 4 жыл бұрын
I know less after listening to this
@lifeisshortpeace7783
@lifeisshortpeace7783 4 жыл бұрын
Good,once you unload your cupboard, you can fill in with more stuff later.
@RalphDratman
@RalphDratman 4 жыл бұрын
That is correct. The question "what is real" is just word play. Trying to answer is is bound to be confusing.
@kimsahl8555
@kimsahl8555 3 жыл бұрын
Everything is elements of the Nature.
@TupacMakaveli1996
@TupacMakaveli1996 4 жыл бұрын
Farid ud Din Attar the conference of birds has almost same explanation for existence of 'things'.
@TupacMakaveli1996
@TupacMakaveli1996 4 жыл бұрын
@Language and Programming Channel It is not Aristotelian philosophy. It is Persian philosopher. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attar_of_Nishapur
@TupacMakaveli1996
@TupacMakaveli1996 4 жыл бұрын
@Language and Programming Channel I would recommend you to start reading the book "the conference of birds". It is a small book around 150-pages. archive.org/details/AttarTheConferenceOfTheBirdstr.C.S.Nott
@mohamedarrayeh361
@mohamedarrayeh361 3 жыл бұрын
Consciousness is in the brain ,brain dies consciousness disappears ,then matter is fundamental
@perjespersen4746
@perjespersen4746 4 жыл бұрын
13:18 Baaam! Robert got owned!
@caricue
@caricue 3 жыл бұрын
PerJ, I may be misinterpreting the tone of your comment, since it is possible that you projected some Ego on to Dr Kuhn, but my response was to respect a man who smiles when someone tells him he is wrong. This is the mark of a true seeker of knowledge since a smart and well read person must always give up their attachment to their current perspective in order to make room for a different or better perspective.
@machida5114
@machida5114 4 жыл бұрын
Knowledge is real.
@sopanmcfadden276
@sopanmcfadden276 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if anything is material. I think how attributes connect is what's real
@avital3257
@avital3257 4 жыл бұрын
You decide what is real
@zorashoes6482
@zorashoes6482 4 жыл бұрын
there is mental in "fundamental".
@heraldshok
@heraldshok 4 жыл бұрын
What is Real is dependent on one's world view. One's world view is under one's theology or philosophy. One must first choose which workd view he stands upon.
@martinchitembo1883
@martinchitembo1883 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I think I am the only real thing and everything else is an illusion around my reality.
@TheWayofFairness
@TheWayofFairness 4 жыл бұрын
Each of us is actually all that is and I think every atom is all that is. I think consciousness came from unconsciousness and discovered that everything is everything and is one wave of probability that can and did materialize like the hear and now. The wave of oneness is what we are and we are what is real. Each one of us is the one that is real. The observer and the observed are what we are. We are the whole thing. It is our Self
@noramaine4168
@noramaine4168 4 жыл бұрын
@ 22:32 it really mindfucking to know that there could be some other categories in the platonic sense like mathematics , even crazier that the laws of physics could be in there , creates this platonic realm in the first place , or some other alternative.
@lifeisshortpeace7783
@lifeisshortpeace7783 4 жыл бұрын
There are two truth,conventional and ultimate truth.language can only convey conventional truth,ultimate truth can only be experience by the seeker when our mind is silence without thoughts.
@ZeroOskul
@ZeroOskul 4 жыл бұрын
2:22 John HORthAWne? Horthawne? We say Haw-Thorne.
@superjaykramer
@superjaykramer 4 жыл бұрын
Reality is a space that others agree is real..
@jeffravi
@jeffravi 3 жыл бұрын
...... if understanding is possible....🤔
@Great_WOK_Must_Be_Done
@Great_WOK_Must_Be_Done 4 жыл бұрын
There's no way to know for sure.
@somethingyousaid5059
@somethingyousaid5059 4 жыл бұрын
My godd@mned existential trauma. It's real.
@davidwalz94
@davidwalz94 3 жыл бұрын
What is the purpose of life as a sub-8 male? Yea I know its a tough one
@BopZ61191
@BopZ61191 3 жыл бұрын
2:20 the guy with the drink in his pocket. He knows all the answers.
@garypritchett8136
@garypritchett8136 2 жыл бұрын
My head hurts!🤕
@kmonsense8716
@kmonsense8716 3 жыл бұрын
A thing is a clump of matter that exists in space-time and has mass. Therefore, a thing exists only in the physical world. Reality is always subjective. There must necessarily be a consciousness to perceive what is real. In other words, something is real when we apprehend it with our minds using our senses. Reality is always a projection, from the immaterial realm to the material world.
@thestonesstone2581
@thestonesstone2581 4 жыл бұрын
Why is interviewing his doppelganger?
@3gonus
@3gonus 4 жыл бұрын
i really can stand when the voice become loud, almost screaming
@cvsree
@cvsree 4 жыл бұрын
Real is defined as something that doesn't change. In this universe everything is subject to change. So nothing in this universe is real. But consciousness is beyond space time and real.
@welshriver
@welshriver 3 жыл бұрын
(1) -(4): Echoes of Heraclitus, Kant, Spinoza, Plato
@PicturesJester
@PicturesJester 4 жыл бұрын
"Things" aren't real, the reality of the inevitability and unpredictability of problems is what is real
@johnbrzykcy3076
@johnbrzykcy3076 4 жыл бұрын
I like your statement
@PicturesJester
@PicturesJester 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnbrzykcy3076 Thank you, comes by way of the philosophy of KarlPopper and David Deutsch. David has maybe the best interview in Closer to Truth
@johnbrzykcy3076
@johnbrzykcy3076 4 жыл бұрын
@@PicturesJester Where do I find the interview with David Deutsch?
@PicturesJester
@PicturesJester 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnbrzykcy3076 just search for "closer to truth david deutsch" here on youtube. It's like 7 ou 8 segments of 5-8 minutes or something
@johnbrzykcy3076
@johnbrzykcy3076 4 жыл бұрын
@@PicturesJester Thanks Jose. I'll check those out
@glenemma1
@glenemma1 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing is Real. Everything is Real.
@StanTheObserver-lo8rx
@StanTheObserver-lo8rx 4 жыл бұрын
True: Just finished lunch..looked down at the spoon,and how two full grains of rice and a third part grain..were perfectly aligned to look a bit like the symbol for PI. Now,if I wanted to do that just by dipping my spoon into rice? Could I ever do that again? Does that prove the Universe is not determinate? or IS determinate?. Heisenberg might have proved we can't say exactly where a quantum particle is...now. In the 21st or 22 century,,maybe we will..and that will end all religion.
@Seanus32
@Seanus32 4 жыл бұрын
Corporeal and incorporeal are 2 sides of the same coin. They sit side by side with each other but most scientists will never, ever come to that through rational, scientific enquiry. It takes more profound experiences to reach that.
@PaulHoward108
@PaulHoward108 4 жыл бұрын
Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is the ultimate reality, and whatever is related to Kṛṣṇa is real. In order to count the things, it's necessary to decide what is the first thing, the second thing, etc. The computational theory (Sāṅkhya) provided in the Vedas indicates things are detailed concepts, and concepts are divisions of the chief whole, the original concept, who is Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and is appropriately counted as number one.
@firstnamesurname6550
@firstnamesurname6550 4 жыл бұрын
I like Krsna ... but I don't like at All most of those religious movements trying to teach to others Who is Krsna ... Of course, It doesn't matter what I like or dislike ... Fortunately, Krsna is not here for telling me and others to follow His 'Devotees' ... Therefore, not Krsna devotees to follow ...
@ferdinandkraft857
@ferdinandkraft857 4 жыл бұрын
If you start with dogma you'll never leave the starting point.
@PaulHoward108
@PaulHoward108 4 жыл бұрын
@@ferdinandkraft857 If you don't start with the whole, you'll never have real meanings, which are based on the relationship between each part and the whole.
@PaulHoward108
@PaulHoward108 4 жыл бұрын
@@firstnamesurname6550 Kṛṣṇa explicitly advised going to a pure devotee to learn about Him. If you like Kṛṣṇa, why oppose that recommendation? I know following it isn't easy, but do you think the ultimate goal of life should be? BG 4.34: Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master. Inquire from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realized souls can impart knowledge unto you because they have seen the truth. Kṛṣṇa said later who is a spiritual master: BG 12.2: The Supreme Personality of Godhead said: Those who fix their minds on My personal form and are always engaged in worshiping Me with great and transcendental faith are considered by Me to be most perfect.
@firstnamesurname6550
@firstnamesurname6550 4 жыл бұрын
@@PaulHoward108 Sorry, A thing is a literature about Krsna and another thing is Krsna Personal Presence ... If Krsna is Krsna, He already knows that I would not hesitate in following His Instructions ... at the same time, Krsna knows that I don't have to follow men that believe in Krsna just by following scriptures about Krsna ... or Are you claiming that those current religions are holding in their files 'Pure Devotees'?? ... If those religions were holding 'pure devotees', Krsna himself will come to me and tell to me, 'Hey dude, Check this out and get fun' ... up to day, He is not confirming to Me the existence of pure devotees in this era ... Therefore, not requirements for following believers in scriptures ... In fact, there are some verses in those scriptures that state that a 'pure devotees' are above/beyond all the scriptures and religious precepts?? Therefore, The own scripture is claiming that the scripture is not a dogma to be followed blindly ... In another verses, the scripture inform about those hypocrites stuck in the scriptures pretending of being authorities in a knowledge that they don't impersonate. Therefore, for me, the impersonation of Truth is more valuable than the quotation of scriptures ... Liers can quote scriptures, meanwhile, Impersonations of Truth express Truth by their acts, behaviors and facts ... Why follow liers quoting scriptures when/where one can impersonate Truth by never nurturing self-deceptive beliefs about knowing God's will ?? I understand that some millions of years embedded in self-deception is a nothing for an eternal, a human life spam in self-deception, less than nothing ... Therefore, I am not the judge and executor of redemption to all the souls embracing selfdeception in 'their' existence ... I just observe in silence and let the facts 'speech' by themselves ... and I will never pretend to be a 'Personal God's Messenger' or 'Guru' without the direct instruction from a Personal God itself ... ... and please, Don't come to me with fables about the 'Disciples Chains' as a resource for persuasion ... because the 'disciples chains' is proved by current facts ... and never by anecdotes about 'the past' ... Then, Can you show those apes that pretend to be the current 'Pure Devotees' for this era?? Go, Tell me their names and current location.
@thomasmarten9634
@thomasmarten9634 4 жыл бұрын
It got 2 b that i didn't know what he was talking about In the last interview!😩
@domcasmurro2417
@domcasmurro2417 4 жыл бұрын
Some mathematicians think mathematics is not something we invent. They believe mathematics and laws of physics exist even if we never discover them. That they exist almost as a thought of the universe, as a ghost of nature.
@choaticblack
@choaticblack 4 жыл бұрын
@@domcasmurro2417 mathamatics was made by ancestors
@marintints8946
@marintints8946 4 жыл бұрын
In today’s world, there are no absolute truths. It’s an age of speculation, and also awakening.
@martinchitembo1883
@martinchitembo1883 4 жыл бұрын
Is that an absolute truth that there is no absolute truth?
@marintints8946
@marintints8946 4 жыл бұрын
Language and Programming Channel It’s pretty certain our current brains can’t finish anything like string theory and proving the multiverse. These haven’t been disproven though. Maybe conscious AI’s can help. Probably our only hope to truly save us from ourselves.
@Roscoe0494
@Roscoe0494 Жыл бұрын
1308 episodes? When does he run out of questions?
@fluentpiffle
@fluentpiffle 2 жыл бұрын
Unless you learn how to work with necessity and plausibility you will never know the answer to your questions..
@theocope6471
@theocope6471 4 жыл бұрын
Thank God ( don’t get hysterical), for common sense.
@firstnamesurname6550
@firstnamesurname6550 4 жыл бұрын
... or ... contain the separation's hysteria ...
@Apostate1970
@Apostate1970 4 жыл бұрын
Constitution is identity. Temporal parts are real. Modal relationships pick out parts of other worlds. Two or more things which perfectly mutually overlap are not two or more things but are one thing.
@cmvamerica9011
@cmvamerica9011 2 жыл бұрын
All the information in all the brains, in all the books, in all the computers on earth; is a very tiny, insignificant portion of the information in the universe.
@-Burs
@-Burs 4 жыл бұрын
I think everything is just variation of energy and vibration. Because anything what came into our existence can be made out of these two alone. Be it an object, an emotion, a smell, or a sound. It's all waves of vibration spreading through space at different energy levels. And there's also consciousness which for most people complicates things even further. It is not within us, or the brain where science is looking for it. It's the other way around. The world around us, and everything we know of, and what and how we experience it, is contained within the consciousness. Strange world we live in today, heh?
@kallianpublico7517
@kallianpublico7517 4 жыл бұрын
Are we all following our own frequencies and calling it free will because its different from the frequencies of others?
@-Burs
@-Burs 4 жыл бұрын
​@@kallianpublico7517 They say "you make your own world" :) Nothing is predetermined or carved in stone, there's no fate, and we are all different. If it was any other way, the world and the lives we're living would be boring as hell. We all have free will "by default", and we choose to experience this reality any way we want (some do that consciously, some unconsciously). So whether the world is made out of atoms, or waves or energy, or is pure illusion, is up to you to believe which ultimately defines what's real to you. There are ofcourse others who think different, that's why there a four interviews in this video, and not one :)
@kallianpublico7517
@kallianpublico7517 4 жыл бұрын
@@-Burs What about ignorance and death? How are they "choices"?
@-Burs
@-Burs 4 жыл бұрын
@@kallianpublico7517 Sorry but I don't see where you're going with this. It's certainly off-topic in regards to this video.
@kallianpublico7517
@kallianpublico7517 4 жыл бұрын
@@-Burs I was responding to your written comment: "...we choose to experience this reality any way we want..". It seems when speaking about things we fail to acknowledge our limited knowledge or ignorance. In the context of ignorance a lot of our pronouncements fall apart. Some do not. Just trying to guage what you were leading to.
@benquinney2
@benquinney2 4 жыл бұрын
All is number
@geoffmcmahon4314
@geoffmcmahon4314 4 жыл бұрын
Know all...
@imgn8r715
@imgn8r715 4 жыл бұрын
I have to admit it's frustrating to repeatedly see questions being asked from a shaky premise. Before wondering "what is a thing" or "what is reality", the more basic question to explore is how does one even perceive things and the reality. One does that through the five major senses, which are nothing but passages for electrical signals that can be bypassed. If those have been hijacked, everything that follows is a moot point. From the day you were born till today, if you've been fed data (like in the matrix movie or a digital form of the movie Truman Show) while you've been lying on a bed the whole time, then it makes no sense to seek answers in the study of electrons or the stars and galaxies because you are being toyed with and are interacting with some being on the other side, the proverbial "God". Everyone, and more importantly everything, is just audio, visual, tactile data.
@iamBlackGambit
@iamBlackGambit 3 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does the dude at 14:55 sound like LIAM NEESON lol..kinda looks like him to a little bit
@waldwassermann
@waldwassermann 2 жыл бұрын
Reality is One. - Parmenides
@MrRamon2004
@MrRamon2004 3 жыл бұрын
What is real? I think real is the energy I see in the universe, matters will disappear in the black holl but the spirit (energy) will keep going. In this life and the next one stay in the light.
@wladicus1
@wladicus1 4 жыл бұрын
_ Playing with words and thoughts. _ Experience, once defined by words or thoughts is already NOT that experience anymore. _ The actual experience in the moment of conscious awareness is the only reality, but it cannot be described or thought of using intellect which in itself invents a conceptual world.
@firstnamesurname6550
@firstnamesurname6550 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, but The Immediate Experience from a single local entity is not Reality, just the immediate experience for that entity ... Reality implies The Complete Set of All The Immediate Experiences from All the Existents ... Therefore, Reality is not a localized and contingent phenomenology from a single subject. Of Course, Subjective Games of Words are absolutely ineffective for Discerning Reality but the environmental Intersubjective field where language is displayed offer some instructions for Discerning aspects of Reality that doesn't belong to the immediate experience from a Single and local Subject. Therefore, Subjective Immediate Experience is not Fundamental Reality, just an infinitesimal aspect from It.
@wladicus1
@wladicus1 4 жыл бұрын
@@firstnamesurname6550 _ Occam's razor: entities should not be multiplied without necessity. _ Once intellectual explanations enter the picture, the only reality being experienced is the intellectual explanations. _ Therefore - the immediate experience based on perception might be called a relative reality, and perhaps the only reality. _ All else could be considered as intellectual or conceptual understandings of reality. _ To go deeper one must delve into "Who is it that asks 'What is reality?' ?"
@firstnamesurname6550
@firstnamesurname6550 4 жыл бұрын
@@wladicus1 If you want to close your eyes and don't want to see what is 'really' happening ... Why will you require to know about what is been seen by everybody?? ... Only a God-like entity can - suddenly - put eyes in things without Eyes ... If we let that to Natural Selection dynamics, then that -suddenly from the gods - would take Multiple Universes for finding one universe were things can see with their eyes ... Sorry, your immediate experience will fade away and what already exist can persist without your immediate experiences ... Why the apes are pretending that they here-and-now can equates with the here-and-now from The Gods?? By invoking the Death of their Intellectual faculties ... That belief is not even wrong ...
@wladicus1
@wladicus1 4 жыл бұрын
@@firstnamesurname6550 _ Now you have personalized everything, which brings in opinion and imagination. _ Any valid/useful investigation concludes at such a point !
@firstnamesurname6550
@firstnamesurname6550 4 жыл бұрын
@@wladicus1 Sorry, the motivation wasn't/isn't/will not be done to personalize the dialectic exchange or pretending to judge the arguments as something intrinsically attached to your self ... The personalization of the arguments was made with the intention of triggering a cognitive mechanism for 'self-reflection' ... it is using 'parabole' as the resource for communication. Paraboles, not for giving a 'chunk of information', instead, for releasing in the receptor its own mechanisms for recycling information ... Think this way, When First Name surname reads 'your' arguments , he doesn't reads 'your' arguments as 'your' arguments , he reads 'your' arguments as if those are 'his' arguments ... then, the 'counter-argument' is not a counter-argument about 'your' arguments ... the 'counter-argument' is a counter- argument that merge from the First Name Surname's interpretation of the arguments in line of processing ... First name surname is not providing a counter-argument about your self, he is providing a reflection for himself about his interpretation of 'your' arguments been observed as just 'arguments' in an environmental field of text processing ... ... Peace ... As we can observe, Reality is not a just 'the immediate experience' from a single subject ... ok, some single subjects can be constrained by their immediate experience ... but that an entity is constrained by that, doesn't imply that its complement must be constrained by the perceptual faculties from the limited and constrained observer ... Why try to make from a 'relative reality' an 'overall reality' when/where the 'relative reality' is already providing evidence and realtime events from an 'overall reality'??
@mickbrown946
@mickbrown946 3 жыл бұрын
define real.
@RalphDratman
@RalphDratman 4 жыл бұрын
"What is real" is a philosophical problem. Wittgenstein taught that philosophical problems represent confusions in language. One way to detect such a confusion is to look at a philosophical question and ask for definition of the terms in the question. Often it turns out that a definition of a key term will be elusive. In that case it is already likely that we are dealing with a confusion, not a real question. Since "what is real" is the key question here, we must ask for a definition of "real" in this context. But it seems clear that no one has a definition of "real". In fact one might say that a lack of such a definition of "real" is exactly the problem under discussion. When the request for a definition comes back with the statement that the definition is actually the question, know that you are in trouble with philosophical confusion. The question, that is to say, is not meaningful. It does not ask about a substantive "thing". The question is word play disguised as a serious inquiry.
@caricue
@caricue 3 жыл бұрын
Ralph, I thought the first sentence of your comment was quite sufficient. Science was originally proposed as system that uses hypothesis and experiment to find regularities in nature. It was never intended to delve into the obviously philosophical question of ultimate reality, but the particle physicists long ago took on this impossible quest in their hubris. A particle physicist will tell you that a thing is considered real if it is useful to explain an observation, and in the next breath tell you that they are exploring the fundamentals of reality. What intoxicating vanity.
@RalphDratman
@RalphDratman 3 жыл бұрын
@@caricue Thanks, Steve. As for the sentences beyond the first in my comment, I do think one has to go a bit further than simply dismissing the question as a matter of philosophy. That's because some people who like to be thought of as scientists keep asking questions like "What is consciousness?" and apparently are hoping to find some kind of quasi-physical answer. I don't say that's impossible -- I just say neither the question nor those imagined answers have any discernible meaning.
@caricue
@caricue 3 жыл бұрын
@@RalphDratman So, by quasi-physical answer you mean an answer that would be compatible with materialism? Is there another option?
@RalphDratman
@RalphDratman 3 жыл бұрын
@@caricue Clearly all real answers are compatible with materialism. By writing "quasi-physical" I meant to imply that the people who are investigating "consciousness" are flirting with mysticism while trying to pass off their theories as belonging to physics. But I see no reason "consciousness" (in the sense of our subjective experience of ourselves as both actor and spectator) requires a special explanation. What we call our awareness is not a physical thing.
@caricue
@caricue 3 жыл бұрын
@@RalphDratman Thanks for you well thought out answer. I hate to think that I may be one of those people looking for a physical or even quasi-physical explanation of consciousness. My subjective experience of existing is pretty much all I've got, so imagining that it isn't a physical thing doesn't leave me much. I'm comfortable with the idea that I am an evolved creature consisting of a brain and body that exists as much as anything else can be said to exist, if only in transitory sense, like a sand dune that constantly changes sand particles, but persists in form. Maybe your beef is with people who want to scientifically investigate a "soul" or other mystic idea. Anyway, I have to conclude that my awareness or consciousness must be physical in some sense or it would not be able to affect the physical world, which it does all the time. I find the subject fascinating, but don't anticipate any concrete answers anytime soon.
@hooliogoolio4446
@hooliogoolio4446 4 жыл бұрын
When he finally just fuckin goes nuts... 25:03
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