I wonder if Derek from MPMDs will cover this to compare his pre to yours.

@@eclecticbynature9375 that would be interesting. can't wait for the thumbnail.

@@Marta1Buck Title something like: Meathead Chemist vs Ph.d Pre Comparison

How do some of these adaptogens affect the stimulus from exercise? I'm thinking kind of like vitamin c blunts effects of exercise because it makes it less taxing on the body...

Also, are the outwork nutrition products on amazon legit?

Where can I buy it ?

Premium priced? 40$ is cheaper than the standard for 20 scoops of a fully dosed pre most 45$ or 50$

@@thatjackal74 Lol that just means you're getting ripped off then.

How was it???? Was it worth the money?

@sean tellier It varies from person to person. Unfortunately, I happen to be someone who gets more than just a tingly feeling.

Yes there is 3.2 grams like all products out there!

I love that feeling! 😂

Then there’s me who bought extra beta alanine to take with pre workout to get more of that feeling 😂.

Can't say I enjoy the feeling but it doesn't last that long for me, meanwhile my workouts have been ridiculously consistent on this stuff regardless of how tired I am. I have thalassemia, which impairs energy production and has been getting worse as I age. So anything that can help me stay consistent is worth it's weight in gold.

deception trough truth "i always say the truth even when i lie" joke tho love the 10 second intro

Shill!

They give you very expensive urine

This is true. Most of them are not absorbable. Try eating eggs, oysters, and beef liver - it’ll cure your deficiencies.

I formulate my own pre-workout so I can manipulate what's in it. From my experience, a shitty one, yes it does lose effectiveness overtime. I went for as up to 600mg and it didn't feel like I had anything. Decreased it to 400 for a week, then 200 for another week, then went free for 4 days. Then shot back for 300, felt like the first time I ever drank coffee. My humble advice is to stay caffeine free during your rest days, or take off caffeine 4 days every 2 weeks. You can try and add L-Theanine to your caffeine if you feel like it does nothing to you. But don't go Rich Piana mode like I did. Especially when you're 5'7" and 150 lbs.

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It’s great, I have actually used l tyrsoine itself as a pre workout how much I used to like it

Canadian Protein .com has all those ingredients and you could make your own with less caffiene. Just make sure you mix it with something other than water if you do.

gorilla mode nitric is my go to

You should buy Citruline, Tyrosine, Caffeine and whatever else you want seperatly. It will be cheaper and you can control your caffeine intake

Beta alanine provides an acute response. From my experience, the "less used to it" you are, the more you feel it kicking in. To me, beta alanine is the "signal" that my pre workout has kicked in.

Thank you

beta alanine is more effective

@@liamherringer3626 that is not at all true. the real reason he left it out is because he moved the betane to his recovery formula, which doesn't make a ton of sense seeing as Betane is proven to have an immediate effect on power output and endurance, unlike beta alinine.

We do ship to the uk

@@biolayne1 "We currently ship from the USA to Canada and Australia. We no longer ship to the UK due to Brexit and the new VAT tax requirements."

A lot of people get major stomach pains when taking creatine before working out. Taking it after working out reduces/eliminates that stomach pain.

The ultimate forbidden pre

@Just Shane The label lists the amounts.

@Just Shane Per scoop. See here. And £25 for 1kg! www.bodybuildingwarehouse.co.uk/bsn-no-xplode-50-servings

Who cares about the flavor.. Does it get you jacked

Yes it’s safe, as long as you do t already have health problems. 300mg is equivalent of a large Starbucks coffee.

@@jeffg3895 Thanks, I thought more than that was mentioned? Interesting for me as I lowered my caffiene intake generally from research suggesting it wasnt good over the long term for some risk factors, but with everything on the internet it is diffucult to seperate fact from fiction.

It has small acute effects but in order to get the max benefits you need to consistently take it. Great point

I hope he wouldn't lol. There's a reason it's banned.

Why is it banned? I never really looked into it, only that people who were abusing it ie. taking it and doing intense cardio were having heart issues. I used it for a few months a few years back and honestly loved it lol.

@@zacharyhorne4884 according to the fda it narrows your blood vessels and arteries which may cause cardiovascular problems such as shortness of breath, arrhythmias, tightening in the chest, and heart attack, as well as seizures. And it also can cause other neurological and psychological problems.

@@zacharyhorne4884 actually I just looked bit more into it and it seems that some PhDs in the field and a some studies claim that for low dosages it's still effective (but obviously less) and is unlikely to cause problems. So idk maybe it's not that bad if you're not abusing it. That being said the study I saw was funded by a company that sells dmaa... And I still thinks that if the fda decided to ban it there's a good reason for it but I don't actually know much about it.

@@tomerwolberg37 That's always been my philosophy behind it but I won't sit here and pretend to be a professional when discussing the product, because I'm certainly not. I'm just a guy who has an average understanding of health supplements and loves pre-workout. I understand that while taking stimulants you should probably avoid high heart rate cardio sessions. That being said, when I took pre-workout that had (what I believe to be around 40mg) DMAA in it, it was truly the more satisfying product. I have never felt as good during my lifting sessions as I have with that pre-workout (Mesomorph) and have been searching to find a product to give me those "feels" again. The closest I could get to it currently is Amped AF from Steel Supplements and even then that product doesn't come close to the indescribable experience I had with DMAA lol. Currently taking Gorilla Mode from Gorilla Mind and it is a very handsomely dosed product. I plan on trying Lane's formula once my Gorilla Mode is finished up as while his dosing isn't what Gorilla Mode is, it does have a interesting composition, specifically the L-DOPA and Rhodiola.

Next week 💪🏻

@@biolayne1 omg thanks

The malate actually has benefits, too, not just the citrulline. And citrulline malate itself has studies showing benefits

This comment is extra comical due to the video he posted today.

@@mrw9216 it’s actually not comical. Creatine increases my DHT by a whole lot and I have labs to prove it. I’ve done this experiment more than a few times. Just cause there aren’t that many studies on this it doesn’t mean that it’s not a real thing for some people.

There’s a stim free option now

@@karlmicx Anecdotal, so “what can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence”. Which means this would be an entirely pointless debate. 👍🏼

@@mrw9216 pointless unless it affects you. There are lots of unknowns in the science world. We’re at the very beginning stages of information era. Before there was proof that cocaine is dangerous it didn’t mean that it wasn’t.

No they aren't. If you just want your water to change color and taste good then proprietary blends are fine. If you actually want an effective pre-workout you need to know what you're taking because many proprietary blends are dosed so low they're completely useless.

Yes