What was some medieval woodland like?

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Modern History TV

5 жыл бұрын

Modern woodland is very different from medieval woodland. Jason and Warlord explore the differences and why the rare wildwood was significant for travel and warfare.
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@galahaddayne
@galahaddayne 5 жыл бұрын
This is why I love your channel, its because of topics like this, people often just focus on medieval warfare and the arms and armor of that time period. There was a lot more to medieval life than just wars and weapons, those aspects were just a part of a larger picture.
@jackofalltrades6488
@jackofalltrades6488 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha...."This is what would stop Kavalery and even Infantery...." - even the woodlands topic is about warfare...
@aubreyackermann8432
@aubreyackermann8432 4 жыл бұрын
At least it's not plague
@321AlterSchwede
@321AlterSchwede 4 жыл бұрын
Well spoken.
@kevwhufc8640
@kevwhufc8640 4 жыл бұрын
I always prefer the social history to the usual arms & armour medieval vids , that's why I started metal detecting as a hobby when I'm not working, unlike my job I get to keep the metal detecting finds from the farmers field nearby, he has a look but rarely wants to keep anything for himself.
@galahaddayne
@galahaddayne 4 жыл бұрын
kev WHUFC that is a fantastic hobby, yeah for me it’s also all about the political intrigues as well between barons, earls dukes and kings, the relationships between them and who supported whom for their self gain to rise through the ranks in medieval societies
@ClockworkChainsaw
@ClockworkChainsaw 2 жыл бұрын
As a Swede, I was confused when our scouts were at a camp in England and I saw what was considered forest. I have to say, even your example seems very easy because there is an easy way to go around it. I am used to impassable woods being brambles ahead, a cliff to the right and a marshy bit straight ahead. Of course, the Swedish landscape above Skåne is also never as flat as England. But this video definitely helps explain why it would be an odd concept to someone growing up in England!
@ophidahlia1464
@ophidahlia1464 Жыл бұрын
That reminds me of the episode of Mantracker where he tried to track some people through the wilderness in Newfoundland. His horse and skills were just no match for the brambles, undergowth, thick conifers, stunted trees, and rocky ground and they actually got away on foot. I don't think there were too many people on the show that managed to elude him, but that rocky, cold, & wet north Atlantic maritime climate breeds some very rough flora & foliage
@humphrke
@humphrke 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I live in BC in Canada and its the same kind of thing. Just gotta look at old growth forests, they still exist
@sacredrootnomad6582
@sacredrootnomad6582 5 жыл бұрын
from what i have researched, the woodlands that were often surrounding certain inhabited regions such as villages and hamlets were often very very very well maintained. Perhaps due to the much lower population density in the medieval era there are rather vast areas that are left unchecked like you are portraying, much like a modern jungle (just a bit more temperate). But for the most part, as far as in relatively close proximity to established areas, even the smallest village, it forested regions were very well in check. The folk of the day didnt use it for just charcoal, but also for wildcrafting herbs, vegatables, roots, bark and mushrooms, obviously for wood for construction and fire, and for hunting. They maintained pathways for travel and hunting on foot or horse, cleared brush for clearer line of sight and ease of maneuvering, practiced controlled burnings to alter the forests perimeter, regenerate soil, and produce ash (which was used as a soap and cleaner and many other things due to its many benefits and properties) and charcoal. Some speculate that many forested areas were far more well maintained than ours are today. They treated it much like we treat a garden, it was a major source of food and supplies for people of the past and was absolutely essential to their survival. Great video as always, love the work that you do. it is really interesting to see how your horse reacted to the much thicker and more dense brush. the hesitation and confusion is very clear. Really gives you an idea of how traversing wild lands would go in those day. Sending you my best! Cant wait for more content.
@kallmannkallmann
@kallmannkallmann 4 жыл бұрын
This so mutch. Think this vid was a Quick shot after finding some cool looking forest ☺
@JEEDUHCHRI
@JEEDUHCHRI 4 жыл бұрын
I would add that ancient/old growth forests are usually very clear underneath since the lower growing flora can’t get any sunlight. Also forest fires sweep through clearing the understory and preserving the towering virgin growth. Once you get into second and third cut forests there is a bit of an arms race by many species. Vines, brush, smaller trees, saplings, etc all have more of a chance until the massive trees take over. But this can take decades. Also, around human settlements people were scouring year round for wood for cooking as well as heat/light. They’d go out and “by hook or by crook” clear dead limbs within reach or that had fallen. This cleans forests rather quickly. Remember they didn’t have chainsaws. Look at the cover of the Led Zeppelin album. The old peasant with a rack of sticks or a “faggot” on their back. This would have been a common sight. Source. I read something about all this somewhere. Maybe an Erik Sloane book or two. And jammed some Zep too.
@allanrichardson1468
@allanrichardson1468 4 жыл бұрын
After gunpowder was available, the demand for charcoal would have been even greater, compounded by the need to repair and replace armor and weapons destroyed or damaged by firearms.
@SMiki55
@SMiki55 4 жыл бұрын
Even the famed Amazon rainforest was actually managed by the natives. Given how humans were basically everywhere (though in lower numbers than today), I guess most of the "primeval woods" we imagine today were just well-managed gardens for herbs and huntable animals. This ofc changed when the industrialization and mass deforestation started.
@alter_norweger
@alter_norweger 4 жыл бұрын
I've read that there's more forest in Germany (where I live) today than in late medieval times, due to the extensive use of wood and much clearing for farming. But I guess some parts of the bigger forests were quite primeval - at least it would have been more difficult to maintain forestry a few miles away from settlements than it is today.
@maxenceperron8602
@maxenceperron8602 5 жыл бұрын
In the Canadian boreal forest, the trees will even attack you.
@3nertia
@3nertia 5 жыл бұрын
Please expound?
@YurimoHikashi
@YurimoHikashi 5 жыл бұрын
Elaborate?
@casandrahampton376
@casandrahampton376 5 жыл бұрын
I imagine so! Here in Michigan, swamp brush will try to trap you forever in its clutching, dizzyingly similar embrace. Not to mention thorny raspberry bush patches! ^.^
@Ganpignanus
@Ganpignanus 5 жыл бұрын
maybe the trees see humans as a threat...
@maplemouse4674
@maplemouse4674 5 жыл бұрын
​@@3nertia​ fellow Canadian here to (hopefully) elaborate a bit. The Boreal forest up here is quite thick and boreal trees with their needles can be like broad fans of spikes reaching out to grab you, especially if you are higher up like, say, on a horse. And if the needles don't get you the one way they swing back of their springy branches can pack quite a punch. On trail rides at my family's we'd always have to be very careful in forested areas.
@ObsessedwithZelda2
@ObsessedwithZelda2 5 жыл бұрын
Man, the example here is def more mild than the unmanaged places I've been. For me it was always weird to see pictures of managed woods, for years I couldn't figure out why all pics of woods looked like that when it was so clearly not wooded at all (to me at the time) It is interesting how perspectives on the matter vary based on exposure
@Friendly_Gamer_Mom
@Friendly_Gamer_Mom 5 жыл бұрын
Lots of "Wild Wood" here in the USA. Where the video was taken is still cleaned up and easy to get through. Broken, dangling tree limbs are one slow down, ...but imagine one side of a stream choked with saplings or a thick growth of bushes.
@silverkitty2503
@silverkitty2503 5 жыл бұрын
Do you take horses through?
@tokeeptrackofrandomsubs5899
@tokeeptrackofrandomsubs5899 5 жыл бұрын
Depending on which period of time you're talking about though a lot of the historical woodlands of Europe even back then would've been somewhat cleared/looked after (maybe a bit less than what was shown there though). It would vary strongly depending on the regional climate, soil, which groups have rights to it (any of them exclusive rights?) and so on. Climate and soil would obviously influence which trees do best there. But after that aspect you've got the various groups of humans that want wood - ship building: tall and very specifically shaped trees (bending wood wasn't as simple back then) - metal industry: charcoal was needed, needs a lot of wood - regular peasants: random small burning stuff would be fine For the last two a coppice approach would be fine, just collecting random debris or brush could also work for firewood. But I only just listed a few categories I could come up with right now, I'm sure there'd be many more groups. And I don't really know much about the situation everywhere but in England and a few other places it was pretty normal that commoners for example didn't have the rights to cut trees down or cut limbs off but they could go there and collect brush and stuff from the ground. Having such traditions in place would automatically result in at least some of the woodlands being cleared for fuel close to places with human population. Oh and beyond using it as fuel it was also normal to let animals like pigs forage for food there, hunting rights on the wildlife, etc. So there's a few more competing interests outside the fuel area.
@Quicksilver_Cookie
@Quicksilver_Cookie 4 жыл бұрын
Shockingly most woods in medieval period would be much more cleaned up than today. They would be prime "farmland". Woods would be naturally growing gardens looked after.
@helRAEzzzer
@helRAEzzzer 4 жыл бұрын
@@silverkitty2503 the horse riding thing is something I don't particularly understand about the medieval nights in response to a Forest. Why on earth would they not leave them and continue on foot? If the opposite army somehow has their horses, I suppose there could be a disadvantage without their own but to try and bring horses to follow an army into an unknown woodland seems ridiculous. I know wars were done very differently back then, but I'd be surprised if they couldn't fight in an "honorable" way AND leave the giant animals behind to navigate the forest. Their armor would slow them down enough as is, I suppose...
@BlackJar72
@BlackJar72 4 жыл бұрын
Often still not that bad on foot ... but wouldn't want to try to ride a horse through it. Then, moving through in formation as done by heavy infantry would also be a problem.
@rafaelalodio5116
@rafaelalodio5116 4 жыл бұрын
It's kinda sad that Europe almost don't have any native forests anymore.
@johannhamann681
@johannhamann681 4 жыл бұрын
Europe does have native forests. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_and_Primeval_Beech_Forests_of_the_Carpathians_and_Other_Regions_of_Europe en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Carpathian_Biosphere_Reserve en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poloniny_National_Park
@MiljaHahto
@MiljaHahto 4 жыл бұрын
And then some in Nordic Countries as well. (We do have pretty much managed forests, but some native are still left. And even those left unmanaged for long enough may be indistinguishable from native.)
@Senkino5o
@Senkino5o 4 жыл бұрын
Just like back in medieval days.
@user-oo8oj1hl8k
@user-oo8oj1hl8k 4 жыл бұрын
Finland has a lot. But then again, the country is 80% forest. They look like this: www.sll.fi/app/uploads/2018/09/DSC_0236-%E2%80%93-Kopio-1024x685.jpg www.sll.fi/app/uploads/2018/09/96U38t4i75o-vastavalo-277102-2-1440x1080.jpg Very hard to get through even on foot, you pretty much have to rely on pathways created by animals like moose and elks that frequent the area
@infinitypointstudio3205
@infinitypointstudio3205 5 жыл бұрын
Love your channel, so very interesting! But I must say I was surprised to hear that is regarded as “unmanaged, wild woodlands” over there. It looks positively clear compared to what we are used to here in the Pacific Northwest of the US. It’s a reminder to me of just how precious and rare our wilderness is, and how easy it would be to loose them. Thank you for your great shows!
@Beryllahawk
@Beryllahawk 5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking much the same, though I live in the Southern US, and a great deal of our "woods" is in fact secondary and tertiary growth in areas harvested for lumber. In fact I'm not sure there are many trees in my area that would even survive one English winter! But I also noticed just how unhappy Warlord was with the closeness and all the branches and so on. He was quite ready to get out of there! I can imagine that horses of that era - at least the sort used for war - wouldn't have been half so tolerant. A high spirit often means a horse that has no problem charging the enemy and handling battle noise simply won't put up with a bunch of "creatures" touching him at random points, in a space he can't move freely in and can't see very far.
@ivetanovotna7949
@ivetanovotna7949 5 жыл бұрын
Woodlands in Europe are usually kept very clean so it would be easier to manage fires in the woods. Also (speaking from the point of someone living in the Czech Republic) there are a lot of towns, villages and agricultural land splitting the woods into quite small chunks. The latter one doesn't apply to northern countries, but they still take a lot of care of their woodlands to protect them from the fire.
@francespeter
@francespeter 5 жыл бұрын
Fran here, used to play hide and seek on horses in a forest or Bush as we call it, in southern Canada. Very dence leaves on the forest floor, and dàrk under the tree canopies. Lots of false trails. We rode bareback, and trees were so dense that when you got two or three layers of trees away from each other, you could not see or hear the other person. Dark too so took a lot of figuring out to get oriented to direction. Basically had to spiral out through the the trees to eventually get to one edge of the woods into the surrounding fields. The deep leaves and subdued sound got the horses excited and they had tombs held back k am little as they waded through the inches of crisp leaves..
@Arikitty13
@Arikitty13 5 жыл бұрын
I live in Seattle, and I was just thinking this very thing.
@BadgerCheese94
@BadgerCheese94 5 жыл бұрын
@@Beryllahawk English winters are very mild. With the exception of the far south, I think Southern forests would do find. It would be the cool summers that might make a difference as winter temps might be similar but summer would be very different.
@MerchantMonk
@MerchantMonk 5 жыл бұрын
I could take a whole video of just you riding Warlord! What a magnificent animal!!!
@virglibrsaglove
@virglibrsaglove 3 жыл бұрын
Me, too!!!
@rorobobo8401
@rorobobo8401 4 жыл бұрын
That horse really trusts you. You can tell.
@vivianphillips768
@vivianphillips768 4 жыл бұрын
You’re the only person who can essentially make a whole video saying “Horsey no go here, too many branch” and make it sound epic. Bravo 👏🏻
@gaslitworldf.melissab2897
@gaslitworldf.melissab2897 4 жыл бұрын
I have fallen in love with that gorgeous horse and such a cooperative spirit. He must be an awesome horseman, a firm, clear, gentle guidance of his horse.
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@jeanfish7
@jeanfish7 4 жыл бұрын
@@ModernKnight Breed? Looks Spanish or Italian breeding. Beautiful horse:)
@MrEvanfriend
@MrEvanfriend 5 жыл бұрын
I'm American, so maybe it's a different frame of reference, but aside from that one downed tree, that bit of woodland looks a lot less dense and a lot more manicured than the woods I'm used to. The trees are very widely spaced apart and there seems to be very little undergrowth. I've spent time in the woods from New Hampshire to Tennessee, and it's all more dense than that. But I imagine that in an era where military tactics largely involved fighting in formation with spears, or with archers shooting volleys of arrows, those woods could create an issue - for the archers especially. Generally, you don't want stuff getting between your projectile and its target, it just slows the projectile down and/or knocks it off course.
@emporororretargds8601
@emporororretargds8601 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a fairly spaced out wood but it might be different in the UK
@davidd7940
@davidd7940 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. It didn't look dense to me. I've been in woods in New Jersey, Georgia, and Alaska. All were so thick with undergrowth - bushes and tree branches - that any movement forward required a machete.
@TheLilian511
@TheLilian511 4 жыл бұрын
Yes in america a lot of woods must still be quite savages and unworked, while here il almost all Western Europe and UK woods have been worked a lot since a very longtime by civilizations consuming a lot of woods like the roman for example who had a big impact on the forest of Europe, there is no more natural forest in Europe almost, they have all been remade for productivity. In fact a lot are artifiical because replanted at the end of the 19th century, when deforestation in Europe had reached a critical point and that reforestation politics were made (for example Napoléon III in FRance, he ordered the planting of the forest of Les Landes and Sologne, which are huge artificial forests)
@junipertree2601
@junipertree2601 4 жыл бұрын
Out west in America you can find a lot of woodland that doesnt have much undergrowth at all. We have a lot of forest fires out there and pine can make souls too acidic for some brush. They aren't cleared by people usually, except through controlled burns to keep fires from getting out of control. When I moved to Georgia I was surprised at how much undergrowth there was even beneath the pines.
@williamacheson3569
@williamacheson3569 4 жыл бұрын
This is because trees in America seemed to only be cut roughly 300 years ago. It's a very new country compared to the rest of the world. Because of this many trees haven't been cut down and regrown elsewhere. They've stayed in their thick bushels. In England or Ireland however, the trees have a wider gap because of the seeds and such
@gommechops
@gommechops 4 жыл бұрын
My God that horse is beautiful, such intelligence in his eye!
@jatzi1526
@jatzi1526 5 жыл бұрын
I was doing some patrols and training in the polish woods with the us army in 2018 and it was incredibly hard to navigate some parts on foot let alone on horseback. If the entire forest was like those small areas I experienced then yeah it would be impossible to move an army through the woods cohesively
@generictoasterstroodle1080
@generictoasterstroodle1080 4 жыл бұрын
So Who's the Dummy Now? Not exactly
@DCdabest
@DCdabest 4 жыл бұрын
It's funny that it only dawns on me now that most Woodland in England these days would be rather managed. Here in Aus the idea of impenetrable scrub is just the nature of a fair bit of the bushland.
@Yora21
@Yora21 4 жыл бұрын
Even here in Germany, where we started taking landscape preservation pretty serious quite early on and we have a relatively high amount of woodland, only a very small fraction is actual natural forest. Almost all of it is managed lumber plantations.
@mitchellrutherford1215
@mitchellrutherford1215 4 жыл бұрын
Thqts why we Australians call it the 'bush' as though its one inpenetrable organism
@danieledugre1837
@danieledugre1837 4 жыл бұрын
Goodness....I just watched Jason ride in a wood for 5 minutes and enjoyed every second...the man is a born teacher
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching us.
@eledaauvenatus4006
@eledaauvenatus4006 4 жыл бұрын
Growing up in Texas it always bewildered me that riding a horse in the woods and under trees was even possible, because the undergrowth is so dense, even where trees are plenty tall enough. It wasn't until I moved to Colorado and experienced low undergrowth that I realized this was totally possible.
@jamesfrankiewicz5768
@jamesfrankiewicz5768 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Washington state in the Pacific Northwest of the United States. Due to frequent rain, fir trees, hemlocks, and cedars grow like weeds around here, and the underbrush growth (thorny berry bushes, especially blackberries, sallal, stinging nettles, scotchbroom, ferns, etc. etc.) is even worse. Unless you are in woodland that had wildfires pass through within last 4 years, our woods are often impassible if you go much off-trail (on foot, much less on horse). And a lot of these woods are right on the edge of the suburbs, so you don't even have to go far to find them.
@strawberrymilksamurai
@strawberrymilksamurai 5 жыл бұрын
The horse is so cute! It almost looked like he was dancing instead of galloping, along with the music
@frida507
@frida507 5 жыл бұрын
The horse was clearly sceptic.
@ethanedminsten2894
@ethanedminsten2894 5 жыл бұрын
That is one of the maeras, unless my eyes deceive me.
@eliasbram3710
@eliasbram3710 4 жыл бұрын
Denethor II ,ruling steward of Gondor, bought a Maera to enjoy his retirement. Occasionally post videos about his former life
@saddleridge4364
@saddleridge4364 4 жыл бұрын
that's the kind of woods we have where I live. Many, many fallen trees, huge grounded logs, lots of underbrush. It's not bad walking in winter or early spring, but once everything sprouts up and out, it's nearly impenetrable. Your horses are beautiful and I can see how bonded you are with them. Thank you.
@PickleRick65
@PickleRick65 6 ай бұрын
I live in Texas and we've got woods like that all over the place. Lots of firewood without having to use an axe. Nice video👍👌💪💪
@mysteriousman4966
@mysteriousman4966 4 жыл бұрын
This is relaxing to watch.
@geminidream4347
@geminidream4347 3 жыл бұрын
So beautifully peaceful. I would love to ride all day in a place like this.
@morganstasney1934
@morganstasney1934 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like it should have been more powerfully stressed that most medieval woodlands would have been just as carefully managed as today if not more so. It was precisely because of how important the woods were to the society at the time that they needed to manage them. Yes there would still have been wild woods and encountering one would surely have been a massive headache for any army on the move, but this is not really a clear representation of what a "medieval woodland" is.
@primachpepe8597
@primachpepe8597 4 жыл бұрын
agreed
@sebastianpye9328
@sebastianpye9328 4 жыл бұрын
wasnt like half of all of englands forests reservered for the king to hunt in also lol
@BoerChris
@BoerChris 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Any wood or copse that was anywhere close to human habitation (which was most of them) would have been scavenged for fallen branches. 'Firebote' was one of the rights of the mediaeval peasant. Deer would also have grazed the tree branches to a height of 4 or 5 feet. A flanking wood would help to disrupt any attempt at a formed attack from that flank, but it would not be impenetrable by any means.
@nunomartins2209
@nunomartins2209 4 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianpye9328 no
@sebastianpye9328
@sebastianpye9328 4 жыл бұрын
@@nunomartins2209 "Medieval Hunting History - Hunting Laws One of the Sumptuary laws was the Forest Law which related to gaming and hunting. The Forests of England were normally owned by the reigning monarch. In Medieval times there were an estimated sixty nine royal forests. Only the monarch or his servants hunted in the forests. Permission to hunt in forests could also be gained by the granting of a royal licence. The animals subject to the forest law were the Red deer, Fallow Deer, Roe Deer and the wild Boar. Medieval peasant only had the right to hunt any beast over common land, unless such right had been restricted by some special royal grant. Medieval Hunting History - Punishments for breaking Medieval Hunting Laws The strict Medieval Forest Laws reserved the rights of hunting to the ruling class and were hated and resented by the lower classes. Punishments for breaking Medieval Hunting Laws were severe. Peasants accused of poaching were liable to hanging, castration, blinding or being sewn into a deerskin and then hunted down by ferocious dogs."
@macnutz4206
@macnutz4206 4 жыл бұрын
The sort of old growth forest the Romans marched into in German, is of course, much more rugged and clogged with under growth fallen branches, fallen trees, and uneven terrain. Sadly, such forests have not existed in the UK, for some time, due to the very long and periodically large human presence with its tendency to cut down forests for agricultural and fuel purposes. Your point is right on the mark , you just don't have access to the sort of forest you are talking about. There is still a small amount of old growth forest on the west coast of Canada. It is easy for your horse to get seriously injured by stepping into holes left by ancient uprooted trees, that are covered in a thick mat of evergreen needles. There is much less undergrowth due to lack of light and the acidic nature of the evergreen needles. I have never tried to ride in old growth forest, it is very different from new growth that is a hundred years or older. Those big trees have not been there as long as one might think. The old growth trees can be really big after a few hundred years. Welcome to the Teutonburg forest
@karensykas3809
@karensykas3809 9 ай бұрын
I love Warlord! Of all your gorgeous horses is my favorite! His head is absolutely gorgeous and that Roman nose!!! He has an intelligent look and kind eyes also seems to enjoy his work. Gives vibes of being born on a cold windswept northern island. Jason, you are very patient and kind horseman, and understanding of the equine mind. Your channel is terrific. Thank you for it!
@ccityplanner1217
@ccityplanner1217 3 жыл бұрын
Last month I took my bike out to test how far I could ride in a day, to have a number with which to plan future long-distance journeys by bicycle (I got as far as Rochester, or 30 miles in 6 hours, before I had to turn back because it was December & it got dark). Along the southern edge of Gravesend this took me through a path in some trees & I thought "this must've been what all Watling Street would've been like at some point in the past" (of course were it not for it being right next to the A2(M). The section of woodland had been planted by the council as a noise barrier between the A2(M) & a local housing estate so was managed but of course they wanted it to be deliberately thick for greater effectiveness as a noise barrier.
@billycampbell854
@billycampbell854 4 жыл бұрын
It's interesting that the English referd to a woodland as a "wood", while the English in America called it "woods".
@Kratos_God_of_50_BMG
@Kratos_God_of_50_BMG 4 жыл бұрын
Jeez, Warlord is one of the most patient horses I’ve ever seen. Go Warlord!
@janetyoung6097
@janetyoung6097 4 жыл бұрын
In school taught mid-medieval seemed very boring. Buy watching you videos it was brought to life and more interesting especially with how life was lived.
@fabricio-agrippa-zarate
@fabricio-agrippa-zarate 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. That is exactly how a true forest looks like, also with some tall grass wherever the leaves don't block the ground and allow it to grow. As someone who lives in Southamerica, I don't want to imagine the hell spaniards may have to suffer while exploring the continent. For example, we know that the spaniards took over two weeks to get to the place that later became the city of Luque from the fortress of Asunción, which it is our capital city. Nowadays you can get there in somewhere around 1 hour.
@RedDoor888
@RedDoor888 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not so sure that medieval woodlands were all that "unmanaged". I'n another time and place, Ponce de Leon, the first recorded European in Georgia in the southern US talks about being able to gallop his horse through the forest. You can't do that today. The reason you could then is the native Americans carefully managed controlled fires to remove the under story. Their main protein source was deer and it made hunting them much easier. If they could do this, I don't see why it wouldn't have been done then on a similar scale. I suspect it is more about command and control than anything else.
@Pottan23
@Pottan23 4 жыл бұрын
If it was different enough for him to make a note of being able to gallop his horse through the woods, then does it not suggest that it wasn't very common in europe?
@sanniepstein4835
@sanniepstein4835 4 жыл бұрын
Completely mature deciduous woodlands are quite open, as the canopy prevents sunlight from reaching seedlings.
@davidjames4915
@davidjames4915 4 жыл бұрын
Medieval woodlands could still be "unmanaged" but be subject to human intervention. Downed trees and limbs, for instance, could quite possibly be pulled out for use as firewood, so over time the woods would take on an appearance of being "managed" when that's not really what's taking place.
@SierraNovemberKilo
@SierraNovemberKilo 4 жыл бұрын
I live near ancient woodland and know not to go in it when there's any significant wind. Even on a calm day I've had narrow squeaks with dead branches falling down from the canopy. I've also gone flying after losing my footing in the tangle of tree roots, rotting leaves and surprisingly hidden natural little pools at the bottom of tree trunks. It's no wonder outlaws hid in forests. Pursuit of them would be challenging to say the least..especially if they knew the landscape from living in it.
@andrewfleming611
@andrewfleming611 4 жыл бұрын
I'm from Seattle, there are city parks near me that are more densely forested than this. However, we also had 4000 year old trees within city limits as recently as the 1950s. Once people start trying to manage woodland its never really the same.
@MagicalMaster
@MagicalMaster 4 жыл бұрын
I grew up camping thanks to my dad loving it. You've shown me nothing I can't at the least jog through and most of it I can full on sprint in.
@robicarm
@robicarm Жыл бұрын
The teamwork you and the horse have is beautiful. He has nature navigation unit, eco-friendly. To think that was a daily bond between man and nature.
@eg6559
@eg6559 2 ай бұрын
You can actually see the effects of dense woodlands, bogs, and hills/mountains in impeding movement, when a certain welsh man tried multiple times to cross Wales in as straight a line as possible.
@HisameArtwork
@HisameArtwork 4 жыл бұрын
thank you for the info :D and I love that you actually show not just sit and tell! As a writer these bits of seemingly unimportant info are very useful for me.
@highlandracing
@highlandracing 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know how things are in England but as a hunter I can tell you that most woods don't abruptly end. at their edge is normally a tangle of foliage. each individual plant fighting for sun. the result is normally an almost impassable wall. the reason I have noticed this is that game animals will usually use this area for travel. I'm no scientist but I think the forest is constantly trying to expand. just my thoughts.
@RheeasDomain
@RheeasDomain 5 жыл бұрын
Now, I guess the commentary of the dude in the video is good for this video's purpose and underlining how soldiers had it hard. However. In UK they have less than 1% ancient woodlands (woodlands with some trees older than 300-400 years) remaining, everything else is managed. They've had big issues with always removing dead trees, thus preventing insects, fungi and birds and the soil form receiving enrichment. I am from other parts of Europe where the forests are beautiful the way they are and very rich and natural, not all managed, and they feel and look healthier than the remaining "wild" counterparts I have visited in UK. This is why this guy is presenting all these differences between "unmanaged" and "managed" forests. For his english audience it makes sense, but for others his comparison seems like a dead/no-brainer. Of course real forests are supposed to be more complex than a park, and have ten times more biodiversity, this makes them gorgeous, and you have to use the brain to navigate it as opposed as always walking braindead on a straight flattened path. But many english people, especially the young nowdays, this is how they really think. They don't know what a real unmanaged forest looks like and are scared of many animals and plants, and they feel it's very hard to navigate, which imo isn't (I've done horse riding as well on trails in the forest). Each with their own I suppose.
@marzipanmango
@marzipanmango 5 жыл бұрын
I found this video very interesting, partly because I live in a house that backs up on thousands of square kilometers of crown land (old growth forest here in Canada). It makes total sense that armies wouldn't be able to pass through virgin forest. It's quite difficult to do so even on foot- I can't imagine trying on horseback. It's really interesting to learn that most of the "wild" land in England isn't exactly wild! It makes sense, now that I think about it, as humans have lived in England for thousands of years, and most every bit of land was eventually used. It seems so obvious now :P
@Nozylatten
@Nozylatten 5 жыл бұрын
@@RheeasDomain as a scotsman this isnt true, perhaps they have cut alot of ancient forests in England they wouldnt dare be allowed in Scotland anywhere north of Glasgow other than Aberdeen tbey removed an ancient pictish forest for oil infrastructure near the sea. The rest are fine. There is also a ancient forest in northumbria. Afterall 19% of my country is woodland.
@Julie_b33
@Julie_b33 4 жыл бұрын
Completely fascinating. It really sparks my imagination, now picturing all the medieval stories I've read with forests like these.
@johnschmalbach8243
@johnschmalbach8243 4 жыл бұрын
I thank God I have woods like this near me my entire life
@sethleoric2598
@sethleoric2598 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is a game dev who rides a horse around a forest and wears plate armor. So cool!
@gabimiller8181
@gabimiller8181 4 жыл бұрын
I was expecting crazy levels of thick trees and sticks...but this is legit my cousin’s backyard? Makes you appreciate American woodlands-they’re almost all like this.
@halucca22
@halucca22 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this series of videos! So many reasons to become addicted - beautiful animals, spectacular scenery, charming passionate and knowledgeable presenter, fascinating and evocative information, lovely music. I can just imagine every sensation of walking or riding through those woods - peaceful, fragrant but also a little uneasy and maybe even frightening. Thank you for sharing your world with us!
@adnagapot
@adnagapot 4 жыл бұрын
Lol this it's the kind of riding I usually do, and it's very slow going, but it's adorable watching Warlord manage with logs and branches
@vanivanov9571
@vanivanov9571 5 жыл бұрын
Additionally, they would often place light-troops in the wood. If you tried to attack through the woods, these would blunt your attack, delay you, and inform the commander so you don't get the element of surprise. Some armies did fail to place adequate (or any) skirmishers in woods, of course, relying totally on their difficulty to navigate (or assuming the enemy is further away). Some woods are really wild. In WW2, the French didn't expect even tanks could cross through the forest and attack them. On the bright side, the infantry could bring axes and tools and try to clear a path through the woodland for the cavalry, making it a bit more navigable.
@jenniferchaffee2258
@jenniferchaffee2258 4 жыл бұрын
This is fascinating. I live in the Pacific Northwest of the US and almost all of the woods or forest are so dense and thick, much like the area you demonstrate. I think it's wonderful to see the differences in the natural areas around the world, and how we manage them. Thanks for making these videos, they're great!
@Robert399
@Robert399 4 жыл бұрын
To an Australian, that looks pretty tame, even for the suburbs.
@calebfuller4713
@calebfuller4713 4 жыл бұрын
Many Australian woods are pretty unmanaged nowdays. Apparently pre-European settlement, a lot of it was much more open and parklike, because the Aborigines cleared areas with fire, which removed most the undergrowth and encouraged new grass to grow. This would in turn attract herds of kangaroos that would eat it and keep it short.
@LukeWhito
@LukeWhito 4 жыл бұрын
Very difficult for medieval knights
@haltdieklappe7972
@haltdieklappe7972 4 жыл бұрын
australia is a desert with patches of forest near the coasts. shame its not all forest
@calebfuller4713
@calebfuller4713 4 жыл бұрын
@@haltdieklappe7972 It still has more total forested area than all of the UK! Australia is a BIG place.
@haltdieklappe7972
@haltdieklappe7972 4 жыл бұрын
Caleb Fuller yeah, i agree, its a pretty big desert! like 10% of the australia is non desert area which is awful
@oldsoldier181
@oldsoldier181 4 жыл бұрын
When I visited Scotland a few years ago, I had no prior concept of what a "managed forest" was. They actually clean up the undergrowth. Here, something like that is akin to a tree farm-where it is managed, tended, and harvested. Compare that to our natural woods in New England, which are deep, dark, tangled undergrowth. Even though 95% of New England was clear cut at one point, to both use timber for house and ship building, but also to keep houses warm, and to make way for farm animals-the woods that have reverted, are wild again. And, there are some areas where, even as I have grown up in the area, and spent almost my entire life in the woods-I can certainly see how intimidating our deep, dark woods, with their large imposing trees, and tangled thickets of mountain laurel, blackberry, and creeper vines, would be scary to those who first came here. And how it could actually prevent movement of military forces.
@maggpiprime954
@maggpiprime954 4 жыл бұрын
The dramatic music for the fallen tree! Forest maintenance in Canada has put its focus into making sure deadwood exists, to rot and nourish the forest floor. Even in Toronto, the "City Within a Park." Edit: Toronto is pretty big, 630.2 km2 (pop. 2.93 mil). Our public parkland can include the usual playgrounds, soccer pitches, baseball diamonds, beach volleyball courts, exercise equipment, off-leash dog areas etc., but mostly it is trees. And ravines and river valleys. And these are big enough to include parking for visitors, road access for maintenance, large groomed areas for public enjoyment and still have larger areas running wild and natural. These are also accessible to the public, and people are generally respectful and tend not to litter or pick flowers, as they could be protected (Trillium) or toxic (giant hogweed). It's a wonderful experience to just go roaming through the underbrush under the canopy, whether or not you have a dog. If you stick to worn footpaths, you don't risk trampling new growth. The three major parks close to my heart are Taylor Creek Park, Rouge River Ravine/Rouge Park (the only national park in Canada within a municipality), and Humber Valley. Of course, Toronto being on the shore of Lake Ontario, the Humber and Rouge rivers extend from a far greater distance than where I've enjoyed them. There is also the Don Valley, but I've only ever traveled over it by subway (what a view!), not actually explored it on foot. I really should. So, yeah. Toronto is big. Lotsa trees. Can't see the rooftops for the trees.
@bandicoot5412
@bandicoot5412 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm rereading Ivanhoe, and always tried to visualize what Great Briton was like in the olden days, thanks!
@auntlynnonline6206
@auntlynnonline6206 5 жыл бұрын
I'd imagine that idea of 'bandits waiting on the roadside' would have been very real, as travelers would have been forced to use the road that was there, rather than pick their way through an alternative route. Thanks again! Love this channel.
@raveenasen1767
@raveenasen1767 4 жыл бұрын
I like this video because it shows different aspects of past era in details. The small details are important and help us to understand the past properly.Thank you
@Ninjinization
@Ninjinization 4 жыл бұрын
My grandpa manages a few acres of woodland and it usually takes only a few months of not clearing tracks for bramble berry vines to pretty much make the terrain uncrossable.
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@jthev
@jthev 2 жыл бұрын
In my youth I had an occasion to walk through "virgin" forest in Alaska's Kenai Peninsula. That nice green carpet beneath your feet held myriad pitfalls to the unwary. Covered rotten logs just waiting to trip you or your weight to collapse them. What appeared to be solid ground was actually vegetation hiding empty spaces between long ago fallen trees. You wouldn't want your horse (or yourself) to step there and suddenly sink down a foot or three and either get stuck or impaled by a tree branch or a broken trunk. Took a lot of strength to move safely through that kind of terrain. I was young and fit in those days and still found it physically taxing.
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight 2 жыл бұрын
We really have nothing like that in Engand any more.
@dustoff1601
@dustoff1601 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video ,we have plenty of woods like that with thick under growth of brambles & water ways in Wales so I can understand this story very well .
@shellt2390
@shellt2390 5 жыл бұрын
So beautiful there. Reminded me of trail riding in Virginia as a teenager.
@Whitpusmc
@Whitpusmc 4 жыл бұрын
We have a small piece of property in the US, in the state of TN. It’s obviously been harvested sometime in the past 100 years but not much since then and there are patches where unless there is a deer path you are not getting through. Even some deer paths require an effort to use by a single individual and a group would be single file and pretty vulnerable.
@jonravenwulf7788
@jonravenwulf7788 4 жыл бұрын
I asked the same question and you answered with a video thanks mate.
@egregiouscharles9702
@egregiouscharles9702 5 жыл бұрын
A common wild growth is a "cane brake", a tangle of raspberry, blackberry, or other thorny bramble vines. It would be nearly as bad as barbed wire up to your eyeballs. It's _somewhat_ easier to cut than barbed wire but the old shoots are tough and won't cut to a glancing blow, and are interwoven at all angles. The person cutting would be enormously vulnerable to a spearman on the other side. The fastest way to get through one is to crawl under it, and imagine doing that with someone trying to stab you.
@madnessbydesign1415
@madnessbydesign1415 5 жыл бұрын
I'd imagine such woods were also dangerous for cavalry as they would be an excellent place for ambushes. Once in the thick of it, a few archers could terrorize horsemen very effectively.
@Gr8tBlueHeron
@Gr8tBlueHeron 2 жыл бұрын
I can well imagine what those old British Wildwoods would be like - where I live in Canada the mixed boreal forest is virtually impassible due to deadfall and groundcover foliage. I've gone hunting in open forest only to quickly find myself bushwhacking in Tamarack swamp - impossible to get through on horseback, extremely slow going on foot, and LOUD. You aren't sneaking up on anything in rich deadfall! It gives me all the more respect for the people who first lived here, as well as the explorers who travelled through this stuff to find routes across the country, natural resources, etc. The maintained forests are nothing compared to the old growth.
@joemellon5444
@joemellon5444 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful horse. Also who does the music to the video?
@casandrahampton376
@casandrahampton376 5 жыл бұрын
The credits for other videos say. I mean, his other videos. It says licensed from Premium Beat.
@ariochiv
@ariochiv 5 жыл бұрын
Part of it sounds like the soundtrack to Tron: Legacy. Which is a bit odd.
@mysteriousman4966
@mysteriousman4966 4 жыл бұрын
Forestmans theme.
@saintjackula9615
@saintjackula9615 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I could see right away how travel would have been nigh impossible. I also loved Warlord "rearing" at the end, if that is what you call it. You are both absolutely amazing together and that was such a nice closing shot. Thank you!
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@eckiefleckie4938
@eckiefleckie4938 4 жыл бұрын
There’s this one forest in Scotland that’s near Aberdeen and it is the most beautiful forest I have ever seen, it’s full of moss with logs everywhere and huge tall green trees. And it’s always freezing cold and damp there so it feels so nice
@ghifarakbar8492
@ghifarakbar8492 3 жыл бұрын
I've walked into a tropical jungle. sometimes I don't even know weather I walk on the ground or not because of how thick the vegetation on the forest floor is to the point that I can stand on it and it doesn't collapse on my weight
@rmacgregor5823
@rmacgregor5823 4 жыл бұрын
Goat willow is insane too, it grows really tall the splits apart falling in all directions then keeps growing up its like a wall
@MaZEEZaM
@MaZEEZaM 4 жыл бұрын
You should see the bush/forest in Australia where I live, it’s very common to have areas that are knee high in layers of bark and branches, it’s something we would go around as it would be dangerous to try to go through, it’s also why we have such incredibly intense bush fires.
@BWDuty605
@BWDuty605 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely a good example, but I don't need to imagine at all being from the U.S. I've lived a couple decades in both Missouri and Indiana each, and while Indiana doesn't have a lot of woodland even that is chaos compared to what we see here. I absolutely love Missouri and it has a ton of woodland that you can barely navigate by foot. The most dense woodland (mostly pine) I've seen was in southern Louisiana. I thought I was pretty good in the woods until I went on that walk. The undergrowth and fallen pines were so bad, and the trees so close together, that I literally had to spend minutes surveying the area to try to make it a matter of yards on foot. With 5.11 patrol boots, in military B.D.U.s. It was crazy down there!
@chrislaws4785
@chrislaws4785 4 жыл бұрын
I can attest to this alright. I live in the mountains of north Carolina near the great smokey mountains. And the woods behind my house were almost impassable using off road vehicles such as a 4 wheeler. So I could imagine what it would be like trying to do so on horseback.
@gestucvolonor5069
@gestucvolonor5069 4 жыл бұрын
I never seen a music this epic paired with visuals of wood
@sarahleonard7309
@sarahleonard7309 11 ай бұрын
The sweeping dramatic music when he encountered a fallen tree just about made me bust out laughing! If this is what you consider "wild and chaotic", I can barely imagine what kind of manicured landscapes you're used to. I guess this just really illustrates how much the centuries of dense habitation of England have fundamentally changed its woodlands. Here in the US, only estate gardens and city parks are less "wild" than what you show in this video.
@kerryandrews4017
@kerryandrews4017 5 жыл бұрын
Magic. Sheer magic.
@jasonkingsley2762
@jasonkingsley2762 5 жыл бұрын
Kerry Hockey thanks, I’ll pass it onto Warlord.
@MichaelLaneMonkeywrench
@MichaelLaneMonkeywrench 5 жыл бұрын
My father in law used to ride his horse through the worst Canadian forest tangles and deadfalls imaginable - but the horse had spent years doing it. It was a slow process, at best.
@jaredlasseter7364
@jaredlasseter7364 4 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of the woods/forests we have here in the U.S. in the Midwest region, if you go to a state park/national park. If you go off the trail it looks a lot like this
@5Dworld
@5Dworld 4 жыл бұрын
I recommend the book "the secret life of trees" for a description of what a forest looks like if being left alone for two hundred years. Tall, straight trees. Smaller trees growing slowly in their shadow.
@cclarke9301
@cclarke9301 4 жыл бұрын
I love all of your videos very much. Thank you.
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@suzukibn1131
@suzukibn1131 4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating!! I’ve learned something here. Thank you.
@gaebren9021
@gaebren9021 4 жыл бұрын
"I came upon a 'clearing' in the wood. Now I understand. :-)
@edejan
@edejan 4 жыл бұрын
That is one of the most beautiful horses I have ever seen! 💖
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight 4 жыл бұрын
Warlord says thanks.
@snott971
@snott971 4 жыл бұрын
Kudos for the credit for Warlord the horse and for putting him first on the list. Classy.
@epperton
@epperton 5 жыл бұрын
Epic music of a guy stuck in the woodlands lol. I do love the channel! Great work!
@uglyfrog7263
@uglyfrog7263 4 жыл бұрын
As an American I appreciate your perspective and information. I do not compare America to medieval England. Thank you and please keep up your great show.
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@zlcoolboy
@zlcoolboy 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like woods in Missouri, no one ever manages then except for paths like the one you went into the woods with.
@Bambisgf77
@Bambisgf77 4 жыл бұрын
Totavo hi from SW Missouri 👋🏻👋🏻
@ChrisSunHwa
@ChrisSunHwa 3 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, this looks like where I grew up, except I'm in a mountainous area.
@vinnyjamea96
@vinnyjamea96 4 жыл бұрын
That horse is beautiful..beautiful
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@BobbyLCollins
@BobbyLCollins 4 жыл бұрын
A near-perfect spot for an outlaw noble and his band of merry men to hide from a Norman sheriff.
@rtd819
@rtd819 4 жыл бұрын
Hood robin
@kareno7848
@kareno7848 4 жыл бұрын
This is normal 'woods'in the US. No management. Lots of wild spaces.
@goosegoose5361
@goosegoose5361 4 жыл бұрын
Im very jealous, woods in the uk are more like tree gardens and tourist attractions all our woods were cut down
@MajesticSkywhale
@MajesticSkywhale 4 жыл бұрын
@@goosegoose5361 essentially all the woods in the US west of the Mississippi (except mountains and certain areas, which you can still see as dark green on Google Earth) was indeed cut down, but by the turn of the century or a bit before we had mainly begun to let all that wood regrow. Therefore while we have tons of wild unmanaged woodland, in most places you won't find very old trees
@brendanmorin9935
@brendanmorin9935 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was gonna say lol😂 he was acting like unmanaged wilderness was some crazy thing but that’s what it all is like here in the USA
@haltdieklappe7972
@haltdieklappe7972 4 жыл бұрын
goose goose check scotland out
@simonlavelle5572
@simonlavelle5572 3 жыл бұрын
Try the hinterland of Australia,... Tasmania, New South Wales many people disappear still today and the tropical rainforests of the North are beyond anything USA would imagine 🙄
@lsb2623
@lsb2623 4 жыл бұрын
That horse was thinking "Sucky, unmanaged woodland..."
@Vardemis2
@Vardemis2 5 жыл бұрын
btw i always love the soundtrack , great work . and thanks for doing it
@trefthergom3085
@trefthergom3085 4 жыл бұрын
In northern and eastern Texas, the forests are often nearly impassible by a single person, let alone a large group. This is because the trees are often interconnected with vines and large bushes, creating walls or a maze-like system that makes it very difficult to traverse through.
@bombchus
@bombchus 4 жыл бұрын
This is why I love America. Our National Park service's managed to save a pretty decent chunk of woods from any development and if you live in the Midwest or the Pacific Northwest chances are one of them is only a short drive away.
@akoilady9097
@akoilady9097 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Warlord! Another handsome boy. Oh, and I liked the video, too. The woods here in Eastern Pennsylvania are very thick.
@sassytbc7923
@sassytbc7923 4 жыл бұрын
I think you have the best job ever!!!
@garrisonmike
@garrisonmike 5 жыл бұрын
That's open countryside where I live. If you ever get to Washington State, we could give you a chance to look around at what a conifer forest is like.
@joslevin9093
@joslevin9093 5 жыл бұрын
I agree and disagree. I've worked in woodland all my life, and I lecture forestry and environmental management in college. Where you were riding was very subtle. I live in Wales, the Romans, Normans and English were beaten by our woods and mountains. The outskirts of a wood is usually thick, while the interior can be open. You could be concealing skirmishing forces there. Woods covered most of Britain, they were an unknown quantity. Really good video, not many people think of your topic.
@Arelak
@Arelak 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I like wild woods, not the dry wild woods of the American West but what I am seeing and grew up with. Just something really special about wild places that has been lost these days.
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