Exactly what was I thinking

She also doesn’t call him Jack, it’s always Colonel. That’s how he knew it wasn’t Sam

Explains why she was so callous. Remember that at this point she's taken control of two unwilling hosts, something Selmak indicated later that the Tok'ra considered repulsive behaviour for one of their own.

I actually wanted the Tok’Ra to be more like the other Goa’uld, but good. It’s a shame what they actually did with them. I always thought they were horribly underused and pretty much immediately replaced by the Asgard and the Ancients. They were almost pointless to the story in the end.

@@EzraYalanBenjamin as they were first described in Jolinar's first appearance I initially thought of them as a reclusive community of fringe dwellers who kept to themselves, not a terrorist group operating within the Empire.

@@tompearce5418 that would have made a lot of sense, though I’d have seen them intervening when necessary. I also imagined them as having ships, planets, some luxuries without the oppression, slaves and Jaffa. Theyd have been the cultured, spiritual, scientific and philosophical Goa’uld. Somewhat like what the Ancients could have also been had they not fully ascended. I really don’t like what they actually did with the Tok’Ra, to be honest.

I thought that Goa'uld couldn't be swayed to the Tok'ra cause because their inherent evilness and lust for power and worship was quite literally ingrained in their DNA

She is a good guy and she is desperate. That was Carter and not Tok'ra symbiote talking there.

I don't think it really was Carter because she called him Jack.

She also called Jolinar a he, which the symbiote wouldn't, but Carter didn't know about Jolinar's gender.

@@Chrisindapurplehouse They do not have gender. Jolinar was in female body before she transfered from the dead man into Carter. It's perfectly explained in later episodes...

@@CZghost Goa'uld have no sex, with the exceptions of the Queens. They might identify as a certain gender.

You shouldn't give out classified information to the first people who come along, claiming to be friendly to the cause. That's a good way to get got as a spy.

@@blazegunshark The Tokra had little to lose at that point. She gives an address and a note to the SGC explaining things to her comrades and things are put in motion. At this point, they are assuming she is a spy anyway.

@@tomb7942 And what if they use the information to attack the Tokra base? What is they trade the information to an interested party? What if one of the SGC personel who get read in on the information and gets infected by a Gould, who then also knows the information? You can't control for unexpected outcomes, so you control who knows what. This is tradecraft so basic that even people who don't know anything about spies know it. "If two people know a secret, it is no longer a secret."

"Hi, I'm actually a Tok'ra, not a Goa'uld. We hate them more than you do - here, have some information that proves I'm telling the truth" "Understandable, have a nice day" Roll credits.

To be fair, the Tok’ra were not clearly thought out…like at all. Egeria sort of randomly gets added to the Tok’ra lore later, and even that doesn’t really fit with what we get even later. That being said, I do agree with you. The Tok’ra were often victims of bad/biased writing, and any insults towards them were considered justified. Imagine if Jack went years calling the Jaffa snake-bellies?

The Tok'ra were hostile to the idea of an equal partnership with unblended humans - when the Tauri made formal contact later they stated clearly that their idea of an alliance was using Earth as a source of new hosts, and that was about it. It appears they viewed humanity as too "young" to fully relate to them in a mature fashion, no matter their ideals.

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Yes, she would have, because she would have been trying to convince him she was the REAL Carter talking and not the symbiont. She would have been trying to connect with him on a HUMAN level.

@@tomjustis7237 except, as others have pointed out, Sam would not have begged like that, she would have used her genius level brains to improvise. Sam is a hella lot tougher than most men. She earned her rank and her position.

Good indicator of the goa'uld and not Carter. I assume Carter would have said colonel.

@@exploringjenkins413 Or "sir".

Or she was scared.

@Dr. M. H. - Flip of a switch, scary that this is acting.

@@exploringjenkins413 Well, as it turns out, he wasn't Goa'uld, he was Tok'ra.

You Can't Handle the Truth!!

Goa'uld aren't "born evil" (mindless drones incapable of free will), they're more like white teen-agers in Apartheid South Africa - they're born into a political system that benefits them, and as time goes on they have the option of questioning what their parents imprint on them.

To be fair, they are the same species, just with a different mindset...

Tok'ra are not a different species, they are symbiotes spawned with the programmed mind to fight against Ra, Tok'ra means "Against Ra" or other something like that.

The tokra are just rebel Goauld

@@lilahdog568 not exactly, the tok'ra are peaceful.

@@gokou00716 They designed poisons to kill goa'uld and planned assassinations against the System Lords using that weapon. To give one example. The Tok'ra were more ethical than their brethren, but they were not peaceful.

I have to admit that this is a different take on a man that's tapping character she actually look possessed😅

And kinda sexy🫡