Pretty funny hearing Joel list all of the reasons Herbert was not going to go to the NFL, only to have the breaking news that Herbert was in fact leaving for the NFL.

Losing Ben Herbert really hurts for us (Michigan)

Well, Ben Herbert just left with Jim to The chargers.

Michigan doesn't recruit 5-stars, they develop them.

Jim loved Michigan so much he took the whole staff with him

Strength coach might be the one position that is more fulfilling at the college level than in the league. Coaches like Herbert get to help players develop like crazy, but work with them less in the pros since everyone has their own offseason trainer

Social media poster saying dont be on social media.... love it! I have gained a lot of repect for Joel Klatt recently. He has given praise to Michigan deservedly and admits it. He's real, visceral, down to earth, and has legit opinions. Watch Joel Klatt's Zak Zinter peice. You've gained a fan in me, when I used to have contempt for you regrettably. Keep up the content.

Herbert was the key …he kept those kids in shape …preventing predictable injuries …and most importantly being mentally focused …this could be the Achilles heel of strikes that will show in a couple years !! Thank you for the Natty now because it won’t be easy years to come ….Harbaugh was gone long ago …he’s been too hungry for the nfl for years …wants to be king there …

Joel, your shows are so good.

Jim Harbaugh told you and the world before the season began that most of his staff would have other jobs after this season. He did his job. Thank you, Jim!

lmao nailed it on the head with the strength coach when no one’s looking. Play college football and rn working out 5am twice a week, 6am twice a week and one day at 4pm. Not fun but it’s needed

Jim Harbaugh gave Michigan back their sight...The sight of who Michigan is ... Sheron Moore is going to be a beacon of Light to Aid that refound vision and presence Michigan has established in winning the National Championship and being a dominating respect powerhouse. Its the Wings...Go Blue.

Well... Minter & Herbert are headed to LA. Massive brain-drain for the coaching staff. How Michigan pivots from here in the next month will determine a lot of how the upcoming season pans out.

Please stop crying about Harbaugh taking his staff with him. He’s going to do that and hey the coaches said “YES”

The best thing that happened to Ryan Day is Jimbo to the Chargers.

As michigan alum/ fans, I believe the question we should really be asking ourselves is, why did Hebert want to leave? I mean, I can understand jayband minter but why herbert??? Something bad may be around the corner...FIRE WARDE!!!

Joel, I doubt the student athletes at Notre Dame spend more time with their strength trainer than on academics, which sets them apart from all the other schools.

jim coached the team during the week when he was suspended and made the game plans moore had nothing to do with it .

For many years Michigan has developed 5 stars with yearly average recruiting between 10 and 20th ranked classes. With the new NIL and transfer portal Michigan will have to start paying up, which Warde does NOT want to do. Among many other reasons I would like to see a new AD to go along with Moore and new coaching staff. The way Moore handles a BRUTAL upcoming season after a perfect natty run will determine his and Michigan's next few years. GO BLUE

Ok Joel love you my man! But I think we've had enough of the rose bowl hat . Awesome hat though awesome

I’m a buckeye fan but I can’t wait to see the madness of the sec and its fan vs Texas lol

Great Episode!

Raiding the Coaching staff! Leaving with multiple NCAA violations pending! ~ Now that’s a Michigan Man!!!

Nice rant on horns down. Being introspective rather than outward looking is a great philosophy we should all adhere to.

Yall do understand Herbert is a grown man and he can make his own decisions on staying in college or going to the pros.

Funny thing is now that Herbert is goin to that chargers staff also i get a feeling they are gonna go at it like a big grind just like Jim did in San Fransico when the players/ management ended up running him outta town after one 500 season. Jims a great coach and his style is really good in college. But getting premadonna 50 million dollar athletes to buy into that kinda grind it out style isnt as easy. I think Jim will be successful for a short span then his quirkiness and old school approach will wear on the players and management once again and he will be ran out just like he was in San Fran. Most these NFL players utilize their own trainers often and Herbert will have more of a preventative medical type role.

Nice segment but a lot has changed. Success brings new seasons. Jim will give the new coach some personal imput. Defence and offense philosophy will stay in tact. Recruiting and NIL should be the #1 priority like he said it would be...Go Blue

Nothing lasts forever, and eventually becomes a memory. So, enjoy the ride.

When a team wins a Super Bowl Ring everyone gets one .... plus the Pros pay a lot more! In the end Ben Herbert can always go back to a college gig in a few years!

Just because he won some games in Jim's absence, doesn't mean he can run a program. Recruiting, transfer portal, current player management/NIL, and forming a staff. Calling a game is a SMALL portion of the job. I can't believe about every analyst is not talking about this.

Michigan literally just won the natty and the fans are already stressing about what might happen next year. It’s like what I tell my 6 year old, Enjoy the moment and stop worrying about the future .

What if Moore gets a show cause from the NCAA?? Not saying it's likely, but it's possible.

Joel is outstanding but he was completely wrong on Ben Herbert.

Not a great start he said the same exact thing Harbaugh said to the chargers “ we’re gonna attack every day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind” 😂😂😂

"Authenticity" will be the determining factor, especially for Debor. Although I honestly believe his intentions are pure, but authenticity is something I immediately questioned after hearing him speak. We'll see. I hope for Bama's sake that players see his intentions and give him a chance. I know he wants to win, and I truly believe he can. #RollTide!!

Can you give us your all Saban team of Alabama football with a starting and second string line up of players and coaches from the Saban era?

Ben Herbert leaving is brutal. The others are understandable, but he would have been such a help to maintain continuity of culture amid lots of variability. Degree of difficulty for Moore in Year 1 was already high and just got raised, and UM cannot afford to stall its momentum in Moore's first two years.

Joel, what are your thoughts on “how many times a player can transfer in the transfer portal.”

My opinion is that there should ONLY be a spring portal.

What would you think of UM bringing Larry Foote in as the DC? Former UM linebacker, NFL experience (Super Bowl ring?) currently co DC at Tampa bay

THE Michigan Wolverines have not only PRODUCED THE GREATEST QUARTERBACK OF ALL TIME TOM BRADY 💪 but also THE Michigan Wolverines have THE best fight song AND helmet logo in the country hands down 🫳🎤

The effectiveness of Rodney Terry’s response to horns down was proven out in two back-to-back ranked team wins following that loss. More power to him. If a player wants to taunt, he’s earned the label “classless” - it goes with the taunt. In my opinion, feeling hurt by the response is thin skinned. You start the cycle when you choose to taunt a player or team, take what you are dishing out. No one can criticize you if you only cheer for yourself instead of taunting others.

Herber probably also coached Alabama, Georgia, Clemson. Some fans are just stupid. There are great strength coaches around the country, you just have to find them.

They’re going to have a rough time replacing Connor Stalions.

It will be interesting to see a new take on this with Herbert leaving.

He is not aware that it has been reported that Ben Sherman is leaving.

I ain't mad at the man for moving on. He built up a cultural structure. A blueprint.

As a life-long Texas fan, I have never understood the pearl-clutching offense taken to the Horns Down gesture. I have turned my Thumbs Down to aggie fans for years, and received Horns Down in return. It is a part of the college football culture. No different than chants at home games, or fight songs that bad-mouth your rival. It is a part of the game. It just makes everyone do it worse when you let them know it gets to you, so you are achieving the opposite result by bringing attention to it.

They have announced Herbert is gone heading to the pros to make that money!!

I wanna see a Jimmy Harbaugh and Jim Schwartz shake hands again 😂

Welp... so much for Ben Herbert 😒

Anyone hear from Mike Hart? He’d a good candidate for the OC

kudos again for the informed factual content but perhaps even more for the informed opinions which probably (unfortunately) went in one ear and out the other of the folks who needed to hear them.

Too late Herbert left and left his assistant with the team. Hopefully his assistant is almost as good, but who knows

Wait Legs? A large number of the starters are leaving, and a New QB, several replacements from O Lone and D line, and now a new coach, let's see how it goes before we announce him and Michigan as a contender.

This seems to be a transition like Stanford had to David Shaw.

How will those Ben Herbert workouts fly with the pros?

I really like your idea that the college championship should be played every year at the Rose Bowl on New Year’s Day on network tv. Any chance it will happen?

We finally did we’re national champions! Team 144! 15-0! Go Blue!

Will be fascinating to see Chargers players doing Navel Seal drills as teams. Will a $100M player be totally on board with this?

With the departure of Ben Herbert, Jesse Minter, and Jim Harbaugh certainly hurts, but my concern is the replacement of those guys. Can Michigan find another bright mind for DC with how things are turning out on that Michigan-Baltimore pipeline? Is there someone who can take over and be what Herbert did for the team culture building? Will Moore find someone who can help him call offense so that he can focus on his HC job? I am hopeful but 2024 campaign is going to be very tough

M will quickly become irrelevant because it takes $$ to compete and M is cheap. It take $$ to be the best. Warde needs to go!

Joel I just wanted to say I enjoy your podcast and listen to everyone for me. I’ve been a season-ticket holder for Michigan six seats since 81 seen the good and the bad yes Jim took us to the promised land, but quite frankly everybody was done with the shenanigans so we all have mixed feelings on the higher if there’s enough experience with Coach Moore, but I think we all can agree after a while it was time for Jim to leave Coach Herbert strength conditioning coach I believe is the biggest loss his assistance been with him for quite a few years and stayed so I hope he carries on without too much change . Jim hurts Michigan every year with with recruiting because he shot himself around the NFL and we are really falling behind this year. We don’t have a quarterback and other offensive weapons defense I think will be OK to wait-and-see two years not expecting nothing I may be wrong. Go Blue

Jim Harbaugh is the best coach in football. Michigan won't be the same.

If Michigan has any success it all moore. Harbaugh left nothing.

Minimum 5 peat for Michigan

Jim is so loyal to the university of Michigan that he promised he was done flirting with the nfl (now coach of the chargers), and took about every staffer that was just as important to Michigans success as he was with him to the place he promised he was done flirting with

Was it Ben Herbert who a Run in with Howard Michigan B ball 🏀 Coach ?

Joel, if Sherrone Moore is as good as you say he is, why didn't Harbaugh take him to the Chargers?

Now OSU podcasts are reporting Loveland, Graham and Johnson are possibly entering the portal.

What will post Harbaugh era look like? Just like Stanford, few years of success then it will fizzle out.

Ugh. This video did not age well. 15 min spent expounding on why Michigan needs to keep Ben Herbert.

Herbert is following Jim to the chargers. Which is very painful.

Hey, Joel, do you think Ben is going to be able to get professionals to do the same thing These college kids are doing. I really don't think so I think their heads are too above them. Well, that's what they think anyway.

Harbaugh showed his true colors when he took Herbert with him. A strength coach is irrelevant in the pros. Most NFL players have their own personal strength trainers.

Why doesn't Kirk H. Go coach a team with Paul F somewhere??

Leaving while payment valued. 99% of us would do that

ben herbert told his players this morning he is following jimmy to la

Is this guy famous (joel klatt)? I don't remember hearing about him...

UM is in big trouble, I can see a rich rod scenario again. I think Moore last 3 years and he is gone. They will lose 5 or 6 games next year. It will get worse from there. Warde Manuale needs to be fired along with Juwan Howard.

It's crazy Ben Herbert is going to the Chargers with his nephew (Zach Ludwig) coming in next year. Makes no sense

Interesting how after winning the National Championship, Herbert, Harbaugh and Mintor hit the transfer portal to sunny LA because they love Michigan so much. I guess the assistants felt like they got drafted.

Ohio State spent $13.6 million in NIL to beat Sherrone Moore.

None of this adds up. JH wins the National championship at his Alma mater then leaves for a second tier NFL franchise and proceeds to gut the entire staff. I think JH knows Michigan is guilty and I think these coaches know as well. Why else would the strength coach leave to the NFL where he will be a glorified nutritionist? Michigan or JH sold their soul for a National Championship and are getting out while the getting is still good.

It won't be good without Ben Herbert.....Warde Manuel is back in full control now. He's got a young 1st time coach who he can "mold" and influence. Only 2 types of coaches win the Natty in this age. The Saban type who rule with an iron fist over the entire department or the K. Smart type who get support from every side of the university because the "program" runs the university. This is why Harbaugh is arguably the greatest coach in football today; he got the Natty with one arm tied behind his back. Between the admission restrictions, NIL, & 'stick up their a$$es' academics it is literally a miracle that team 144 won the Natty. Talk about the stars aligning!! If you pay attention to everything that Warde has said about NIL vs. Sherrones statement, it is a read the tea leaves moment. They are completely opposite. Herbert going to the Chargers tells you EVERYTHING you need to know. It is a sad day and the NATTY doesn't quell it.

Sanctions, bowl bans, and back to irrelevancy

If I were a HC I would pay David Goggins whatever he wanted to be S&C Coach.

Betcha you didn't do 'Horns Down' when Vince Young Throttled your Buffaloes 70-3 in the Big 12 Champ back in 2005...

Jim harbaugh just tore down what he built, taking his son jay with him, yeah okay I get, taking jesse with him, yeah okay, it hurts but I get, but taking herbert with him?! are you kidding me?? the dude will just be a glorified nutrisionist in the NFL, where he was really important to michigan. So much for loving michigan, I think he just killed us. Maybe im over reacting, but ffs man.

Ben Herbert would have really helped Ohio State, but too many hurdles to jump over.

I hope they keep sleeping on us 💪🏽〽️🙏🏽

Jim getting greedy.

I sent my question in Joel

Well the first 16 minutes didn’t age well for Michigan!

Sucks that Joel glows about Herbert and says he doesn't think he'll leave, and then he leaves before this video was even posted lol.

I am extremely disappointed in Harbaugh. Not the Michigan Man I thought he was. He could be ruining the Michigan program though I like Moore as head coach. This reminds me of Pete Carrol fleeing to the NFL to avoid NCAA sanctions, so maybe Harbaugh knows that bad sanctions are coming. I should also point out that he got four championships because many players stayed at Michigan. Not him though. I consider him a quitter. Bo was a Michigan man, Lloyd Carr was too, they stayed up to retirement. Not Harbaugh, not a Michigan man. Just a guy looking for money. I add McCarthy to my opinion too. He won because players stayed. Not him.

Taking Herbert is kinda a slap in the face. It doesn't even make sense for the Chargers or as a career move for Ben CFB -> NFL as a strength and conditioning coach is a downgrade... good luck getting 30yo millionaires to show up to team workouts when they all have gyms at their houses and personal trainers

USC is going to win the big10 🔥✌️

Now that nick saban is retired do you look at the coaching position he offered you as a joke or him trying to let you know you should look into coaching

This just in: Joel Klatt is still the very best in the business! Not even close!