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What You NEED to Become A Better Photographer - Documentary Photographer Dan Milnor

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Marc Silber

Marc Silber

Күн бұрын

Daniel Milnor is back to discuss what he's learned to make you a better photographer, because in today's work, being a good photographer is not enough. To be a professional photographer, you need skills that go beyond the camera to communicating your story and make people care about the images you're creating.
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@veryjr2966
@veryjr2966 4 жыл бұрын
Upfront: I rarely comment on KZfaq. Having said that, ... this is by far the most authoritative contemporary voice on documentary photography. Incredible impromptu speaking and to the point. A pleasure and privilege to listen to. Priceless advice. Thank you.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks JR. Just hoping to spare some of you all the mistakes I made...
@marcsilber
@marcsilber 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan for sharing your story and reminding us that there's so much about photography that doesn't involve a camera!
@RalphStriewski
@RalphStriewski 4 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic Milnor! You are really putting the bar way up in the sky, but you are right! Your advice means nothing else than being totally dedicated to showing "the mystery of the visible " GREAT! thks
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ralph. A lot more than photography out there, so widening the base is a good thing.
@gkokra
@gkokra 4 жыл бұрын
im not sure how to express my gratitude for these advices 2020 is looking good already
@ebouwens
@ebouwens 4 жыл бұрын
This is 1 year's worth of sage advice in one video.
@BethBuelow
@BethBuelow 2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous message that mirrors a realization I had a few months back: to be a better photographer, I need to be a better communicator/storyteller. By stretching to find and tell the story, I'll stretch my skills. Technique and skills should be in service to the story, not the other way around. Thanks for your tough love advice - it's completely refreshing and needed!
@marcsilber
@marcsilber 2 жыл бұрын
🙌🙏
@namaste597
@namaste597 4 жыл бұрын
You did a podcast show on the beginner photography podcast than I remember you telling this story to him when I was listening .
@renzoli22
@renzoli22 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice. I find Daniel Milnor as one of the most helpful, insightful, knowledgeable photography instructors out here on KZfaq
@marcsilber
@marcsilber 4 жыл бұрын
Great I agree - why we have him on our channel. Stay tuned for more and please tell your friends!
@stefanol9272
@stefanol9272 4 жыл бұрын
I have become a big fan of Daniel Milnors work. And his very direct way to say things. And I have saidt it before but I say it again. I agree whats he saying.
@jonbuscall8901
@jonbuscall8901 4 жыл бұрын
Inspirational, informative and challenging. Exactly the best kind of KZfaq content when it comes to photography. Thank you.
@marcsilber
@marcsilber 4 жыл бұрын
🙏
@RiverWhisperPrd
@RiverWhisperPrd 3 жыл бұрын
Mr Milnor….this video was excellent…thx
@ConnyDadoSDA
@ConnyDadoSDA 4 жыл бұрын
Baaaang! 💥 No BS, only gold and diamants! 🎯👏👌
@elliotwalker4182
@elliotwalker4182 4 жыл бұрын
Love everything by Dan. Great advice obviously learned through experience. Proper advice about long term progression. Awesome.
@marcsilber
@marcsilber 4 жыл бұрын
🙏
@cjballendine
@cjballendine 3 жыл бұрын
I love research! I'm working on a zine to showcase the first three conceptual series that I have shot and even though they deal with aspects I'm familiar with I still read books to gain a better understanding of both the subject and myself. Love this channel. Wish I had discovered it earlier.
@marcsilber
@marcsilber 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@jameskelly4196
@jameskelly4196 4 жыл бұрын
Dan this is really good advice. This is very well thought out and delivered.
@reginaldgooden2445
@reginaldgooden2445 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Dan! Always great stuff for growth!!!
@marcsilber
@marcsilber 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@brianaikens7282
@brianaikens7282 4 жыл бұрын
Fabulous insight and advice. Many thanks.
@RedPhoneMedia
@RedPhoneMedia 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love these videos, grateful to Daniel for sharing and this youtube channel for providing a medium. His point about being more interested in the build up struck a chord with me, makes me question my path as a photographer into the photojournalism world vs documentary
@marcsilber
@marcsilber 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you love him and we do too! Please be sure to share and tell your friends.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 4 жыл бұрын
Look at James Nachtwey and Sebastiao Salgado. Both insanely good at what they do. And there is some crossover for sure. But, look at a book titled Deeds of War or another titled Inferno and then look at Workers by Salgado. One is not better than the other but there is a difference in duration.
@RedPhoneMedia
@RedPhoneMedia 4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Milnor I will definitely do that. Thank you for the suggestions and consideration.
@Bazzasphotolife
@Bazzasphotolife 4 жыл бұрын
Incredible insight. As a scientist, I am sometimes amazed when others can't describe the relevancy of their research and can't summarize it for laypeople. If you can't explain it, doing it has less meaning. I can't wait to have more time to think deeply into my photography....
@marcsilber
@marcsilber 4 жыл бұрын
and Dan has a wonderful way of explaining and expressing how his works his craft.
@flymrjones
@flymrjones 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this Daniel. It speaks even beyond documentary photography and pieces can apply to other genres and art forms. My wife as an author/writer and who is not a photographer was inspired after I had her take a listen because I thought she could benefit as well. Thank you.
@soholush
@soholush 4 жыл бұрын
Really liking your videos, great advice in this one.
@upperstringsstudio
@upperstringsstudio 2 ай бұрын
What can I say? Ever since I came across you a few days ago, my thoughts have been in major upheaval. Truths Ive felt but tried to ignore. When someone makes me this uncomfortable, it's most always been a good thing. I remember how much Jiddu Krishnamurti pissed me off when I first read him. Thanks for making me uncomfortable, Dan. It's about time I got off my ass. It's so much more than that but there has been a fundamental shift in my thinking. Thanks again.
@johna6968
@johna6968 4 жыл бұрын
Great upload and video Dan. More words of wisdom
@blotandblood
@blotandblood 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video Dan. I learn a great deal from every one of them. Look forward to the next one.
@marcsilber
@marcsilber 4 жыл бұрын
🙏 glad to hear! Stay tuned!
@JCarlos.unknown
@JCarlos.unknown 4 жыл бұрын
Another straight forward honest simple and profoudly important video. I like it: you can say important things in just a few minutes. Thanks for sharing. Cheers from Portugal.
@marcsilber
@marcsilber 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joao!!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 4 жыл бұрын
Joao, man I want to go to Portugal. My father hated to travel but he loved Portugal!
@rhonaldjohnrose5861
@rhonaldjohnrose5861 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. I am not into documentary photography, but this helps me understand to distinguish between journalist photography and street photography. Also some of the advises can be used for many other Genre. You always have a wealth of knowledge.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 4 жыл бұрын
Rhonald, I was never any good at street but was okay at PJ. Documentary, especially long-form, for whatever reason was what stuck with me.
@raymondtan2415
@raymondtan2415 4 жыл бұрын
Sage advice for the modern photographer. Niépce had it easy.
@JonniArmani
@JonniArmani 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent information)
@BobFitz64
@BobFitz64 4 жыл бұрын
Great video - considered, succint and full of great advice.
@marcsilber
@marcsilber 4 жыл бұрын
🙏
@alonzo2k
@alonzo2k 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan for this!!! Do you still do workshop a teaching ?
@joeymccallion
@joeymccallion 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Recently completed a His Pol degree and during it found a love for photography and began getting work. I'm now in a rut of architectural and PR photography. Combining both my studies and photography would be the dream for me. Inspiring video.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe, smart. I was a PJ major but minored in Anthropology and Spanish both of which have come in very handy.
@joeymccallion
@joeymccallion 4 жыл бұрын
@@DANIELMILNOR505 I found since graduating the two disciplines feel completely different but I'm going to take your advice and keep reading, reading, reading
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 4 жыл бұрын
@@joeymccallion What I didn't mention is that reading books helps remold the brain into something that can handle longer, slower things. The Internet physically rebuilt the human brain but the brain can morph in any direction we want. Just takes time and practice.
@tjmanou6422
@tjmanou6422 4 жыл бұрын
well said
@cropcircle5693
@cropcircle5693 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect advice.
@marcsilber
@marcsilber 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
@AlanMorrisSF
@AlanMorrisSF 4 жыл бұрын
Every time I hear Dano speak I can't help think that photographic technology has made photographers LAZY. I know I am 90% of the time
@marcsilber
@marcsilber 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alan
@gui4j
@gui4j 4 жыл бұрын
like dan , he is very interesting to listen tooo ...
@marcsilber
@marcsilber 4 жыл бұрын
True dat!
@lifetimesofamultiplemediam1003
@lifetimesofamultiplemediam1003 4 жыл бұрын
Dan always give me that necessary kick up the backside... Thanks a million
@marcsilber
@marcsilber 4 жыл бұрын
🙏
@Kodachrome40
@Kodachrome40 4 жыл бұрын
Very good tips. Seriously I can’t stand people who are too intrenched in their work that they can’t even have a normal conversation with anyone.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 4 жыл бұрын
At some point we all drive people crazy with our work. We get too close and too consumed and then we drive away the people closest to us. The key, coming back.
@thisisfromage
@thisisfromage 4 жыл бұрын
But but... Dual card slots!!! ;)
@tomastapia8078
@tomastapia8078 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, thank you for the video! I just have a question with regards of the "research" that we, as a photographers should be doing. What are the best resources to find other works? Or which are the best places to find this kind of information? Thank you! Greetings from Chile!!!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 4 жыл бұрын
Tomas, it will all depend on the story. For example, I spent one day last week being introduced to a new story. Since then I have found two books written about the subject, someone made an introduction to the director of a local resource center that works in the specific area and field I will be working and I have also done some online snooping. I think this is common. Also, you have libraries and illustrated book stores like Photoeye in New Mexico that have massive shelves filled with books.
@israelh436
@israelh436 3 жыл бұрын
I realized that look at other people photography who are better and I became better for myself
@marcsilber
@marcsilber 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@oneeyedphotographer
@oneeyedphotographer 4 жыл бұрын
I think this bloke knows something.
@robinbhairam7508
@robinbhairam7508 4 жыл бұрын
So I do a lot of this, but as a 50 something new photographer how do I get to network/meet/collaborate with like minded people. Here in the UK the only thing that appears to be available for people of my age are ‘camera clubs’ ... tried them, believe me, they are not for me! I don’t want to make a living at this, but I would love to just meet/hang/chat/learn from with like minded people to stretch my photography and writing ... any thoughts from anyone gratefully received... PS No offence meant against camera clubs but that whole draughty church hall, bizarre competition clique mentality is just not for me ... tnx
@marcsilber
@marcsilber 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Robin here's our club that's not in a drafty old hall😆 facebook.com/groups/AYPCLUB check it out
@robinbhairam7508
@robinbhairam7508 4 жыл бұрын
Advancing Your Photography Thanks Mark alas I’m not on Facebook having been hacked a few times ... but I’ll continue to follow AYP ... brilliant stuff 😊
@Minoritynomad
@Minoritynomad 4 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing him speak before and he annoyed the hell out of me. It felt smug and dismissive. Maybe a week later I went back and watched again. While I still wasnt a fan of his delivery method, his messaging and passion were spot on for me. I dont believe you have to adhere to everything he believes photography is or should be. But, I do believe employing everything he's said here can do nothing but benefit us. Thanks for sharing.
@marcsilber
@marcsilber 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching - and watching again - to get his message and passion.
@wildsidetv313
@wildsidetv313 4 жыл бұрын
So basically do more than take pictures? Gotcha
@marcsilber
@marcsilber 4 жыл бұрын
👍
@batworker
@batworker 4 жыл бұрын
“The first time I got shot at...” - you’re so not in the UK are you? 😂😂
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 4 жыл бұрын
Ha, had this conversation with a UK dweller last night.....nope. A bit different here. We love to shoot things, people included.
@Ashirhassan
@Ashirhassan 4 жыл бұрын
And then there is Peter Mckinnon.....
@marcsilber
@marcsilber 4 жыл бұрын
yep
@rvbsoundfactory
@rvbsoundfactory 4 жыл бұрын
Unrelenting.
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