I recently had the TofV physical books arrive and they are making me tempted to get rid of my core WOTC 5e books based purely on the fact that TofV books are stitch bound, not glue bound. I'd much rather have the more durable book, but if you're already deep into 5e I for sure wouldn't recommend it and do feel as though I got wrapped up in the hype of it all

think they made it just to be sure they had something out there that they could refer to as an alternative to 5E. Why would you want to switch-because 2024 D&D is a brand new game and not 5E and you do not want to keep giving WOTC money.

Project Black Flag was in the development stage before the OGL crises. This just sped it up. Also, they said it would be different to 6e BEFORE the creative commons development FROM WOTC. So then they put out an article explaining that they decided to use the now legally accessible meterial from 5e and fix it's issues. And that it would be 5e compatible, that way everyone wins. You get to have your 5e game, you know and love, but also improved with classes fixed, details on ways to use items you have on you and their DC checks, etc... They were upfront about all of this. I was bmed too when they announced this. But then I tried it out at Koboldcon and it was fun as hell. Thier Luck Point system is very fun and such a joy to use as a Fighter. The weapon option feature makes it fun to be a non castee. (Something I hadn't experienced in 5e's version) Some people want to have a completely new game but a non WOTC version of 5e worth the try. You may love it like I do! Join the Kobold Press Discord for playing it and watching thier weekly videos etc..

Great video, and thanks for the shoutout!

from a power-creep POV, i would say if you allow Planescape/Spelljammer/Dragonlance/Eberron backgrounds in 5e, it is basically the same. Also post-Tasha classes fit right in. There is just a very large power range in regular 5e, that WotC are also addresssing with their 2024 edition. It is basically a 2024 5e, before that came out.

When announced, I was so excited. I own more KP books then WoTC. I even have Project Black Flag shirt sold in first month. However as more and more information released it was just a 5.5 edition of DND. I was really hoping for something new and fresh. I understand KB wants all their previous books to be compatible, but really wanted something new from them.

It's for sale on Drivethru, other than that It seems to have vanished? They have not mentioned it recently, I'm on the Black Flag mailing list and it's all about their D20 agnostic stuff like monsters and adventures. They never said it was a new game, they said they were going to fulfill all their contracts with 5E and then continue to support their stuff as well as be able to make new 5E stuff without fighting WOTC thanks to the ORC

It ended up being a 5E homebrew that no one asked for and Kobold Press initially promoted they would not make. There was great excitement for Project Black Flag. Then they quickly folded in less than a week, and went back to promoting 5E.

I am a big backer of TOV, I have not gotten my books yet from kickstarter but I do have the pdfs. I changed to TOV from hasbro cause of the crap they have pulled in recent times. Since the OGL I have been playing Shadowdark until TOV shows up. Personally I might stick with SD as it has the best old school vibe.

also those 203 results for adventures are including all the 5e modules that have made previously

Can't say I've heard of it before.

The main reason I haven't switched to that one is because I have a library of fantasy systems. I have way more than I'll probably ever play but Castles & Crusades and Wasted Lands by Elf Lair Games, was and are my alternatives. I just don't need any more fantasy systems. I'm exploring other genres at this point.

Hey the digital release was in May of this year…The Kickstarter Backers and Preorders are being fulfilled as I type this comment…physical copies will be on sale and at flgs by the End of July or in time for Gen Con…

I’m a big kobold press supporter, so this is a biased take. But I’m excited to play ToV. Starting our new campaign using the new ToV books and other KP books like Tome of the Heroes. I understand the criticisms of it’s too 5E like. I think they could’ve made more rules improvements to be the “better 5E”. But it worked for us cause my players like 5E and don’t wanna learn new games sadly. So it kept us playing D&D and me no longer spending money on WotC or Hasbro.

I think it is alive, but not kicking, just kind of laying there. Great coverage though - you did the research and reported your findings clearly. Thank you for the video!

They wanted a compatible but in there minds better game than 5e. So it’s not a new game system but it’s a different take and many people don’t want to deal with wizards and there mess.

But is it played in the wild? Anyone see it run at a convention or FLGS?

They screw up calling it Tales of the Valiant. They also thought they would be the next pathfinder.

I think "Tales of the Valiant" was a pretty terrible name. I think it made them lose momentum.

You basically said everything that I thought of when it came to seeing what ToV was going to be like. I have copius amounts of problems with 5E. Hit point bloat, PC's being made stronger with every new expansion, but monsters staying basically the same, and the expectation that I am supposed to write out an entire story with an over-arching narrative, and then read my players several page backstories and then fit all of that into the plot. Any derivative of 5E will, without a doubt, inherit these same exact problems, and thus I've sworn off the epic fantasy genre all together because none of them fix any of the issues I have with the genre. Daggerheart, MCDM RPG, DC20, Tales of The Valiant; I will not be buying any of these games. My efforts are much more appreciated by OSR style games, and I've been buying and playing those non-stop for months.

You sighed all the way through the video and you haven't even read the players handbook 🤦‍♀️

dude script and edit your videos