Hey Brett, I came across your PRO vs Khaos video about a month ago and became an instant subscriber. I really appreciated your approach to doing that comparison. You killed it on this one also. That being said, what really fascinated me the most is that I have been doing my own comparison of sorts. I'm 58 and just got back into sledding in December of '18. I had not been on a sled since the 70's. I see that they have been improved a little bit. I'm sitting on 2 sleds right now. A '19, 850/163x3 (VOHK built), and an '18, 800/155x2.6. I picked up the 850 in the summer of '19 based on something Burandt had said ("It is a very forgiving machine"). I hadn't heard anyone say something like that about any other machine. I picked up the '18 this past summer. I wondered if my inexperienced ass would even see a difference. Well, I saw more difference than I ever could have imagined. The 155 wanted to trench like there was no tomorrow, it would dive into turns, and the stuck fest that I would get into did not make sense to me when I could ride right thru with the 163. I was at a loss, so I reached out to Burandt for some advice wondering if it was shocks, or whatever. He said to me that "You just described the exact differences between the 2 sleds. You need to be more aggressive on the 155". Ok, that makes sense as I look at the gearing, track length, paddle size, motor, etc. All operator error as it were. I'm finding that each sled has it's sweet spot for riding. Having learned that, it makes it so much easier as to what type of riding I plan to do, along with the ever changing day to day conditions. My style is more meadow mashing, easy tree riding, single track exploring, and carving easy rolling hills. Age, wisdom, and a few aches and pains sorta dictate my day as to not get to crazy. Anyway, thanks again for your time and effort on these videos. It is appreciated.

Every khaos owner needs to see this video! So informative

Awesome camera transition from rider to rider down the trail! Great vid!

Appreciate the effort it takes to make a video this well planned and executed. Very informative 👍🏼

Looks like a super fun day! Really enjoy your videos, keep up the great work you do!!

Great vid!! What impresses me the most is the technical stuff that you went over with the shocks. You made it very simple and the way you showed the real world difference made it even better. I'm excited to go play with my low speed compression on Saturday. Ever think about doing a clutching video? Setup, tweeks, and what adjustments change how your sled acts? That would be awesome!! Thanks again

Awesome content ! I ride a 155khaos and the info on the adjustability of the shocks is excellent! Ty for posting that sir!

Best video yet!!! Great job guys!!

Best video I've seen on snowmobiling logistics! You went above and beyond. I can't believe how talented you are

Keep the videos coming. Best sled content around.

Awesome review of both sleds. Great video.

Thanks or taking the time to thoroughly explain the difference between the two sleds and showing us how to simply set up our suspension for the riding we want to do that day. I'm a big sled guy and love to hop on one of my buddy's 155 to rip around on but still doing homework to see if next sled will be a 155. Your video shows how you have to be creative and more particular on line choices on the 155 if you want to make it up to the top. I've subscribed and will be sharing your channel with my riding group

Another great video Brett. Thanks man!

SO glad you made this video, I think I'm set on a 165 Khaos!

Great video. I’m trying to decide on a purchase and this definitely helped! 🤙🏼

Hey Brett. Great job on all your videos!! Very informative and fun. You found your niche. MB

Awesome vid Brett! Very informative! And entertaining!

I like all the comparison videos you've been doing - very helpful 👌🏽

So stoked for the early fix on my new sled! Thank you Polaris!!!!! I have some good news, we have begun receiving the repair kits for the fuel system problem, so your sled should be among the first to get the fix. Unless you would prefer to wait until later in the season, I will have your sled assembled next week if possible.

Sweet comparison, very cool to see the differences between the two...

I’m a trail guy from NY right on the other side of the peace bridge, currently have a matryx 850 VR1 137 and as years go on I’m wanting to get into the back country. This video helped a lot with making a decision on what would be best for me thanks bro

Your videos are awesome maan!

"And I could feel it, because I´m the one riding" Haha, you´re funny!

Thanks you for this, I am working on getting my Khoas dialed in, Great video

Sick video brett

Great video Brett and Aaron! If you get the chance I would love to see a video of the new 146 Khaos Slash put to the test. I’m sure it will be a very fun sled.

Awesome explanation on the suspension Brett. Cat has a decent set up with the 3 positions as well. My 154" alpha wheelies like crazy, i need to soften up the front skid shock when my finger heals up.

Just a follow up. Just bought a 24 155 24 Khaos. Learning it. Perfect watch. Kept my 23 RMK. Both are great.

Awesome video. Thanks

Thanks for riding these two snow machines and sharing your video. As you said it, "that thing is such a tractor." People love the Snow, love to get out there in the deep, deep. Why do some insist on riding these short tracks in the Snow up to your waist and deeper? Do they enjoy being stuck and shoveling? Have you ever tested a 175"? Wood be interested in your thoughts. Thank-You for sharing. "May God keep us all safe. Amen."

Perfect Brett the only thing I've ever heard from anyone about that suspension is it's complicated Thanks man...

love it :) thanks for cooool videos :)

Great video. Definitely have me looking into the 165 khaos

wow amazing comparaison video. thanx for sharing your knowledge and experience. you are so humble, helping us be better rider and understanding the basic of suspension settings and everything. how do you setup your front suspensions in those type of conditions ?. how do you think the Little Assault Matryx 146 you had recently would have compete with the 2 Khaos ? Keep up the good work

This is really helpful for me. I had to snowchecked a 900 165 since all the 900 155 that Carls were allotted were gone. I have never owned anything but 155. I might convert it to a 155 when she comes in

Awesome comparison. I think I’d go for the 155 for how I like to ride . But the 165 is a beast !

It would be cool to do a comparison like this on cut/un-cut tunnels

Top content!

Thank you, Great video. Your findings are identical to mine. If you’re looking to tame down that khaotic 155, try a 210lb rear spring and a Pro RMK limiter. Add a Carl’s revalve on those Velocities and it will be money. I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised.

I missed this video somehow when it was posted. I love my 165 Khoas 2.75, it is an absolute technical terrain slayer. It responds much easier to rider input than the Pro but it is not giving up much on deep straight up climbs. The 165 transfers less than the 155 and while feels tamer than the shorter track it can still be tuned to get rowdy if you want it to. The 165 Khaos is possibly one of the best all around mountain sleds Polaris has released to date and gets a bit less praise because of how people perceive it will ride. Great job on the video and suspension differences which people are always asking for.

Wow awesome video. Always wanted a bit more playful setup so my best option would be a Kaos. My 14' pro 163 is great and climbs like a beast, but man is it hard to throw around. Sounds like I need a 155 for the hard pack days. Great content, thanks for the reviews.

Saw these sleds at Quartz Creek last winter

Hello! I was wondering, when I watch you guys today and other western mountain deep powder videos, you take what looks like trail to get to your riding zone. Everyone rides all across the trail, are you not worried about oncoming riders? Is it not part of a trail system? Is there little chance of other riders coming home that early in the day? Great test, this all makes sense thanks 😊

shed some light on the 600s? thinking of upgrading my 08 rs 600

Brett Can u share shox setting for whopped out trails on the khoas?

Brett Turcotte16 could you please do a video on proper suspension setup for jumping the Khaos.

When playing on those pillows at the end of the video on the 165 where did you have the shock settings at? And where did you prefer to have the settings on each sled for an all around ride day? Leave them right in the middle?

@Brett Awesome comparison videos you putting out. I'm thinking of switchibg from my G4 to the khaos this next snowcheck. Couple questions, -Was the limiter strap out? It looked pretty tight which would affect those playful feelings. -everything else being equal in your terrain (ie both had qd2) would you opt 3" or 2.75? -lastly how much does a short tunnel make a difference in playfull feeling? Does a 165 play more like a 155 with a cut tunnel? Thanks!!!

Great vid again Brett. Im a bigger guy at 240 & im riding a 2016 Axys 155. But Im wondering if I should go with 166 nxt time around. Do you find riders size comes into factor for track length??

Hi Brett, Thanks for these awesome comparison videos. Trying to decide on a 22 slash snowcheck (155 khaos vs pro). When fully adjusting the khaos suspension - just how close does it become to handling like a pro? (exact same, very similar or only a little bit similar)

Thanks for keeping it real and not speeding the footage up like burandt.

Can explain the difference between the low speed adjustments and the high speed adjustments on the shock? In the last video you talked about adjusting the high speed dial and I see in this video you adjusted the low speed. Thanks in advance.

I want to see the new 650s

hey are you using a go pro? Our go pro batteries die after 5min of footage. Maybe because of the cold.. What do you guys suggest to film ?

Very nice, I know it’s a year old but applicable. I’m on a 16 axys 155 (which I feel is wayyy to planted with burandt Fox floats) and have always ridden 155’s but this video and my age (almost 50) has me wondering about the 155 or 165 matryx slash khaos. I’m pretty much done with jumps but still want to learn hop overs/unders better and ultimately want to learn re-entries before I can’t do it…. 6’4” 215 before gear. Colorado what do you think?

So then what happens when you soften or stiffen both at the same time?

I have been debating moving from Ski Doo to Polaris but have been scared of the reliability of Polaris. Seeing Brett reaching over for the gas when he’s starting them gives me reservation. I was confused at first because I can start up a Ski Doo after 6 months on the first pull.. I thought the days of the reach over were done with fuel injection. Anyone have issues with their Polaris 850’s? I’ve loved the reliability of the Ski Doos.

I'm a die hard 155 guy although I still prefer 144

So the black(low speed) is the one you move more ? What is the red(high speed) dial for ? Like which one is for more bottom resistance?

Can you do a comparison between the 165 Khaos and the 155 Pro? That is where I am at trying to decide which one to get. Guess Polaris could throw another curve ball at me tomorrow too.

I ordered the 22 khaos 850 165. I'm torn between the 2 55 and 65. I haven't even road a sled in I don't know how long. I am not an experienced rider I'm hoping I made the right choice.

I didn't understand a damn thing, but it's very interesting. Hello from Siberia.

Great content! Not even a Poo rider.

Could the information in this video be applied to the same sleds on the Matryx chassis? I’ve heard the Matryx is more front heavy and that the 165 Matryx Khaos has less ski lift than an Axys. Is this true?

"Low speed adjusting" is that the black in the middle ?

Was the velocity shocks tuned to have the high and low speed? Doesnt seem to be standard with the 23's.

How come there is only 3.5 inches length diiference? I would have expected 5 more inches of track on the ground.

Good video.. what weight are u?

Hi

Wondering how much of a difference the weight of the electric start would make

I'll stick with my 2006 m7 lol 153

Where's the 91 phazer?

wait, so 165 khaos or 155 pro RMK, that is the question....

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Best Kaos?? Yah ok

i know without even watching and its none of them

Ha ha "165 little ski lift" one steady rpm. 155 on and off the throttle ski lift ha ha you have to treat them the same to get the same result.