Interview MALEVOLENT CREATION (Phil Fasciana) 1997 - The KKK incident (READ DESCRIPTION)

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3 жыл бұрын

MALEVOLENT CREATION Interview with Phil Fasciana for WHAT'S METAL RADIOSHOW.
Conducted by Markus Morrison at Zeche Carl, Essen, Germany.
This interview was done spontaneously after the Malevolent Creation show Sep 1st 1997 in Germany (a text version was available on our old home page). Their reputation already damaged due to the controversy surrounding the track "They Breed" on the album Eternal, vocalist Jason Blachowicz and guitarist Rob Barret entered the stage of Zeche Carl in Essen (out of all places) in KKK shirts. Middle fingers were raised, some fans handed back merch they bought... We took the chance to talk to a seriously pissed off Phil afterwards. Our conversation went on after the "official" interview part and later things escalated between Phil and Jason on the tour bus. Please check the text below for context:
- The touring line up at the time was: Phil Fasciana (g), Jason Blachowicz (b, v), Rob Barret (g), Tony Laureano (d).
- The crosshairs/target Phil mentioned to be on Jason's shirt actually was the white supremacist version of a celtic cross on a KKK robe.
- Tony walked past us while we spoke about drummers. You can hear Phil addressing him at one point during the interview.
- The guy laughing in the background, asking for a copy of the interview and commenting on Chuck Schuldiner was from Sounds of Death (S.o.D.) Mag.
- Phil describes what happened later that night in this interview in Chronicles of Chaos (1998): (...) things came to a head last year while the band was on tour in Germany. "Jason was wearing a KKK shirt (on stage)." The result? "People started freaking out, throwing shit at him and flipping him off. I told him (before the show) that if he wore the shirt I'd fuckin' kill him, and when I left the venue, man, people were throwing bottles at me, we had all our merchandise returned, people were calling us "Nazis" and "scum", they wanted to fuckin' kick our ass!" As you might imagine, Phil didn't take this kindly; the result... "When I got onto the bus and he was fuckin' laughing about it, I fuckin' beat the living shit out of him." This would explain Jason's absence from Malevolent Creation. "When we got home, he quit. He couldn't live with the fact that I did that to him." Continuing on the subject of his former bandmate, Phil says: "The kid is fuckin' unstable, he does a lot of stupid things and says a lot of stupid things that in turn made me look like a fuckin' idiot, so the only way to resolve it was for me to punch his head in. And it worked and I haven't talked to him since." (www.chroniclesofchaos.com/arti...)
- We spoke a bit more after the interview. Unfortunately, there is no audio for that part. However, we had that bit translated to German on our now defunct website. The following text is auto-translated back into English:
"Thank you. This is really a shitty situation."
I think the biggest problem is that the line “You fxxxing nxxxers!” is not printed in the booklet with the lyrics. So everyone must think that you want to keep it a secret.
“Yes, that only happened in the studio, when the booklet was already finished. It was Jason's idea, it just sounded cooler. It has nothing to do with racism, I'm not a racist. I don't care about that. I am satisfied when I can relax a little while playing golf.
But Jason and Rob can really be called racists. But they have a reason. There have been certain incidents, sad incidents that happened to them or their family members. Man, we live in Florida, if you drive into the wrong part of town you are playing with your life, you can easily perish there. It may be different here. Or take a look at the prison. 90% of all inmates are black! Do you understand?"
It is not the color of the skin that is the reason. You better take a look at the position of black people in your society. Most of them are at the lower end.
“You see, that's what I mean. I don't care, I don't worry about that. I'm happy when I can play a little golf to relax and don't have to worry about anything. "
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@ournturn7512
@ournturn7512 3 жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd hear this. Thanks for posting a piece of metal history.
@WhatsMetalRadioshow
@WhatsMetalRadioshow 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome. Feel free to share.
@MetalJackass666
@MetalJackass666 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the upload!
@yungsouichi2317
@yungsouichi2317 Жыл бұрын
This is so funny hearing him try to rationalize this stuff lmao
@Scorchedbrain
@Scorchedbrain Жыл бұрын
Absolutely maddening..dude is so stupid and constantly contradicting himself.
@Br00tz966
@Br00tz966 8 ай бұрын
Pure idiocy
@Martin-dc4kh
@Martin-dc4kh 6 ай бұрын
What a great vibe they seem to have in this band back then!
@Dagazur
@Dagazur Жыл бұрын
"Bombastic news." 8:35 🤣🤣
@Mayonnaisesucks730
@Mayonnaisesucks730 Ай бұрын
lol the interviewer seemed like he was holding back That line was fucking hilarious
@DeanH92
@DeanH92 Жыл бұрын
Weird how Phil got the flak all these years, when it was Jay who said it.
@santosfabianramos
@santosfabianramos 2 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed this
@Typhoon0627
@Typhoon0627 2 жыл бұрын
hahaha ahhhh man I remember all this shit. This must have been right after the US tour for In Cold Blood, which would've been Phil, Rob, Tony, and Jay. I haven't seen or talked to Phil in a LONG time, but he's definitely "in a mood" here haha... Funny enough the band did kinda implode not long after this interview. Phil and Jay were always going back n forth. Rob was the only one who stuck around and Phil managed to get Dave and Brett to come back for the next album. Crazy how many ups and downs and how many people have played in this band over the years. Props to Phil for keepin it going! PS. For what it's worth, there were a few times I saw Malevolent play "they breed" live, and one of the shows a guy jumped on stage, pushed Jay out of the way so he could scream the last line of the song into the mic. So I don't think EVERYONE was upset over the line/word. I vaguely remember Jay's 'boyz in da hood' shirt and I coulda swore the KKK guys were in a cop car. So the shirt was more of a joke at the calling the cops racists. But again, people see what they want. Especially now when it seems like everyone goes out of their way to get offended about everything.
@jamesoblivion
@jamesoblivion Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm sure racists would line up to scream that into a microphone, but who cares? Fuck them.
@ernieball7567
@ernieball7567 9 ай бұрын
Damn,. It sounds like a real drag to be in this band ! I couldn’t imagine playing in a band with this kind of vibe ?
@dive-bomb
@dive-bomb 11 ай бұрын
this is insane 😂
@Metalkid1500
@Metalkid1500 2 жыл бұрын
Based af
@katshades
@katshades Жыл бұрын
How come Rob Barrett wasn't canceled too? That being said, Rob is cool and should not be canceled.
@davu9027
@davu9027 Жыл бұрын
I believe this record was made when he was not in the band, and I don't think he contributed to anything besides playing in the band after 97
@katshades
@katshades Жыл бұрын
@davu9027 did you watch the video? Rob is wearing a KKK shirt too.
@gavin6666
@gavin6666 11 ай бұрын
@@davu9027 rob didn't play on in cold blood, he did do all the touring for it though.
@davu9027
@davu9027 9 ай бұрын
@@katshades holy shit, i was just listening to the movie, but it doesn't really look like he believes all that shit
@XHEADTOWALLX
@XHEADTOWALLX 2 ай бұрын
Great band. Great song.
@partidascompletasdefutebol
@partidascompletasdefutebol 3 жыл бұрын
Hails from Brazil 🇧🇷
@WhatsMetalRadioshow
@WhatsMetalRadioshow 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers! Do us a favour and share the link.
@SupaSavage24
@SupaSavage24 Жыл бұрын
The thing I hate the most about bigots is they never just admit they’re bigots.
@justinkantner7162
@justinkantner7162 11 ай бұрын
I recommend checking out the band Arghoslent 👌🏻
@CarcPazu
@CarcPazu 4 ай бұрын
It must be hard having to explain yourself when the dumbells in your band pull up some shit like this. What can he say? Short of shelving the band and abandon his back catalog and all he's built, he can only blabber like this in interviews trying to make this shit go away. And yes, the F-word was thrown away like candies by anyone in mid 90s in the US without anyone batting an eyelash.
@stephenlanoue5041
@stephenlanoue5041 Жыл бұрын
yeeeeeesh, i was expecting a better excuse than slacker as an alternate meaning of the n-word. smarter move, just point out how death metal in subject matter deals with negative subjects. you can have lyrics that are from the perspective of a mass murderer, a cannibal, a rapist, necrophiliac, war criminal, stalker, you name it. it doesn't in any way reflect the views of the band so why not a garden variety racist? it's as real as pro wrestling, that's it. i don't think anyone in the band is a real racist since i'm pretty sure that kind of a stupid choice in life is living life on the hard mode setting in that you can't get CPR from *what ever race you hate* can interact with * can't watch sports with * and general just constantly being angry at * and ruining an otherwise decent uneventful day when you remember that * exist and they're to blame for everything. what i'm saying is it takes effort to be a piece of shit racist. don't think you can go walking into prison with real racists and say "guys, i hate *... high fives for us all hating *?" pretty sure that hate group that you share the same skin color with will rape you regardless.
@ryandiamond5871
@ryandiamond5871 Жыл бұрын
Malevolent creation rips , that song rips , god love em , who cares about what they believe, if they believe what ever, Rip Brett, but Jason crushed vox and bass wise, divine empire is amazing, but sure don't cause bullshit for the band ,death metal is struggling , keep it brutal.
@z0ttel89
@z0ttel89 2 жыл бұрын
This is so much cringe and so embarrassing to listen to... all these excuses they were making up, even though it's so obvious that all that shit was 100% racist...
@infinite12843
@infinite12843 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao for real, the n word over here definitely isn’t known for “slacker”. Still a killer song besides the lyric.
@bizzles44
@bizzles44 2 жыл бұрын
It’s just strange because he’s good friends with Terrence Hobbs of Suffocation and other black guys so idk… I don’t get it. I think they just do offensive shit for publicity and when they crossed that line here they made sure to never do it again
@Tbone.357
@Tbone.357 2 жыл бұрын
It's just the way it is that white people cannot use that term but black people can use it every other sentence. Oh well it is what it is... 🤷
@rudolfantlerofficial
@rudolfantlerofficial 2 жыл бұрын
@@infinite12843 I actually know quite a few people that say that's what it means. And no, I'm not saying I agree.
@DeanH92
@DeanH92 Жыл бұрын
@@rudolfantlerofficial Did you knock on all your neighbour’s doors and take surveys?
@johnclaud9644
@johnclaud9644 Жыл бұрын
I don’t disagree with him. People in this day and age are too worried about words. Move tf on
@SouthernGuido999
@SouthernGuido999 2 ай бұрын
Love malevolent creation.
@Scorchedbrain
@Scorchedbrain Ай бұрын
Painfully cringe
@RealUKBlackMetal
@RealUKBlackMetal Жыл бұрын
'I'm not a racist but I'll happily use a homophobic slur' is essentially what I'm hearing throughout this interview.
@user-ny5vp9be8v
@user-ny5vp9be8v Жыл бұрын
Oh please, that word doesn't even mean anything homophobic anymore. I'm gay and use that word all the time, it's a funny word, and if someone is being one, they deserve to be called it. Don't be such a f(aa)ggot, dude.
@RealUKBlackMetal
@RealUKBlackMetal Жыл бұрын
@@user-ny5vp9be8v Well in the UK a person could likely be arrested for using the word in public these days, context considered of course. You'd be alright I suppose.
@jumpfart666
@jumpfart666 Жыл бұрын
I'll use any fuckin slur anytime. Fuck this world
@leifchristianwiese5132
@leifchristianwiese5132 Жыл бұрын
@@RealUKBlackMetal you live up to your nick I see…🙄
@DeanH92
@DeanH92 Жыл бұрын
Are you really not old enough to remember when using that word was totally acceptable? It was barely a homophonic slur.
@As_Asa_PhD
@As_Asa_PhD 9 ай бұрын
I'm black and I believe him guys.
@Br00tz966
@Br00tz966 8 ай бұрын
Doooont care
@hotstankygarbage788
@hotstankygarbage788 Жыл бұрын
Pretty cringe. Not even a humor like aspect it's just being edgy to be edgy.
@thanumgaming
@thanumgaming Жыл бұрын
Nah, Phil just don't give AF.
@hotstankygarbage788
@hotstankygarbage788 Жыл бұрын
@@thanumgaming you've got to be a teenager
@thanumgaming
@thanumgaming Жыл бұрын
@@hotstankygarbage788 I mean Phil don't give e AF to you're "edgy to be edgy" part. He doesnt care about edgy, he just doesn't care. I drum teched for them in the 90s. I know Phil well. I agree, the entire thing is total cringe and they should have never even touched the subject .
@hotstankygarbage788
@hotstankygarbage788 Жыл бұрын
@@thanumgaming I mean he obviously cared enough to bring it up MULTIPLE times in their career. He's one of those types to bring something up then brush it off as "lol don't care jk" . Pretty cringe.
@thanumgaming
@thanumgaming Жыл бұрын
@@hotstankygarbage788 Totally agree!
@dumbsathanass8669
@dumbsathanass8669 5 ай бұрын
MALEVOLENT CREWTION IS CANCELLED
@HamMan1997The2nd
@HamMan1997The2nd 2 ай бұрын
Imagine being in this POS band and calling Chuck Schuldiner gay.
@As_Asa_PhD
@As_Asa_PhD 9 ай бұрын
Turns out the band is actually not racist. Don't we all look stupid. All worked up over nothing. Silly
@GenocideGenesis
@GenocideGenesis 8 ай бұрын
TOTALLY AGREE WITH PHIL
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