Whelen Legacy DUO vs Feniex Quad Light bars. Joe Declares his fanboy status.

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Watch Joe Make it clear that he is a fanboy in this Whelen Legacy DUO vs Feniex Quad Light bars Utilitac video.
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@JeffFrmJoisey 6 ай бұрын

You’re doing a wonderful thing for communities by treating the volunteers so well. 👍👍👍👍😃

@ADD_Armey Жыл бұрын

Man I wish our local shops could treat our vollies the way you guys treat your, good on ya,

@Wommii 10 ай бұрын

I understand the draw to Whelen lights, they have been the standard for some time now and are very reliable, however. My department was charged about 5k per lightbar and the supply issue we encountered whilst trying to get the lightbars to be installed was ridiculous and ended up delaying our new vehicles by about 3 months.

@utilitac333 10 ай бұрын

We've been running into this as well. About 2-3 week lead time from SoundOff though 👍

@romeogolf4 7 ай бұрын

@@utilitac333 seconded. My shop in Texas has started pushing SoundOff because we can get it in about three weeks and truth be told, I am actually very impressed with them and have been spec'ing more builds with SoundOff lately.

@chrisvegaofficial5811 Ай бұрын

I love that spot right on the hood for that light bar I'm gonna do that

@O2WarningSolutions-ic2hh Жыл бұрын

You’re like the only other person I’ve heard notice the difference in blue color between the two - Feniex almost always seems to have more of a aqua color, borderline green…and sometimes it’s not. . . Would have like an 800 stick and a fusion on the rear, but the Lightstick was the aqua blue and the fusion V2 closer to the blue like an Ion…OR… the blue is almost to dark like in the first Quad SM’s. *Code 3 also has a bunch of products like that, and SOS are notoriously dark (shade of blue). Fed sig is all over the place too, but still not as bad as Feniex & C3

@08_crown_vic Жыл бұрын

So that's in a case where you mount feniex on the exterior. But what about their quad interior bars not considering the blue color

@Zaltic 5 ай бұрын

The only time it's worth it to buy their products is if it's an interior bar. However to perform the same you require more lights for rear and side of the vehicle

@derekphillips1387 Жыл бұрын

Whelen will always dominate Feniex in every single category

@BadDriversOfNorthCarolina Жыл бұрын

Except siren. Federal Signal blows them away there, Sound Off too!

@julianrichetti3301 Жыл бұрын

Just like federal signal will always dominate Whalen garbage.

@thunderbear0 Жыл бұрын

@@BadDriversOfNorthCarolinacode 3 have best sirens imo

@utilitac333 Жыл бұрын

@@julianrichetti3301 get with the times

@donls1sscme Жыл бұрын

Your a fkn idiot whelen doesn't have quad so tell me how they win ? And both have 5 years warranty ... whelen is good shot, yes but way overpriced

@tctwg1 Жыл бұрын

Most Whelen light heads and light bars made in January 1st 2023 now have a 10 year warranty . A lot of Soundoff Signal is made in China and the lenses all yellow after a couple of years in the Texas sun. We have Whelen lights that the lenses are still clear after 5/6 years in the sun. Most people don’t know Feniex parts are made in China but assembled in Texas. That’s how they are able to say “Made In America”.

@warhawk3136 Жыл бұрын

SoundOff's main line like mPOWER, nFORCE, and nROADS are all made in Hudsonville, Michigan. The only thing that isn't made up there I know of now is the SL runner, which replaced the nLine.

@publicsafetyinvestigations999 Жыл бұрын

Explain the 10 year warranty

@utilitac333 Жыл бұрын

@@publicsafetyinvestigations999 there's a press release with all the info on Whelen's website

@DreadWing7777 7 ай бұрын

Our State Police Department here in New Hampshire has LED Lightbars on their vehicles similar to this one, they have Blue/White in the front & Blue with a couple of Red LED's in the back.

@rescueaviationfilms1019 9 ай бұрын

Is that a factory flash pattern on the legacy at 4:10 a factory preset pattern or custom through a software (core, wecan, command etc)?

@utilitac333 9 ай бұрын

A factory pattern from the wecan controller

@rescueaviationfilms1019 9 ай бұрын

@@utilitac333 ok do you know if that would be the same as one from the wecan control point you use to run the bar off another brand control system?

@utilitac333 9 ай бұрын

It would be

@rescueaviationfilms1019 9 ай бұрын

@@utilitac333 ok thank you!

@sethgleason1749 Жыл бұрын

Love Whelen. My favorite brand for years. I am curious on what is your opinion about Strobesnmore?

@utilitac333 Жыл бұрын

SNM >>>> STL

@fredspier8583 Жыл бұрын

Made in China

@beakfish7319 Жыл бұрын

Personally im really impressed by them. I was expecting an STL or UBL quality but was pleasantly suprised. They still dont stand up to the main brands but for the price point they are excellent.

@TomManson-b9n 2 күн бұрын

What makes the white flashing illegal? Is that a local state law? I would imagine the blue is the restricted one. I have a Whelen Century Mini on my POV and is 10/10! PS thanks for lookin after the vollies!

@molyoxide164 Ай бұрын

3:55 how did you do this flash pattern?

@timgraham2942 4 ай бұрын

Are you sure the suggested price on that whelen bar is $7k?! Ive never seen a lightbar that high.

@dnasty981 10 ай бұрын

Where are you guys located? I need to modify some lights on my vehicle.

@utilitac333 10 ай бұрын

Central PA

@SWAT571 Жыл бұрын

Any chance you have red solo modules around on your shelf?

@utilitac333 Жыл бұрын

We have a bunch! Not for you though. Going to NY, but give us a call if you need any ordered

@asfullasempty Жыл бұрын

Are you able to have just front takedown lights on with no other lights on?

@utilitac333 Жыл бұрын

Yes. Full control and programming right down to the individual light head

@firefighterbrian2585 15 күн бұрын

if only my local shop did this lmao

@evanrodriguez8093 Жыл бұрын

Do you guys have any leftover DUO ions in R/B or any interior bars? Looking to get some better lighting on my personal truck.

@utilitac333 Жыл бұрын

Our used products usually aren't on the shelf any longer than a week :(

@evanrodriguez8093 Жыл бұрын

@@utilitac333 Any chance I could get on a notified list? Not too far of a drive from Coudersport to Ridgeway lol

@utilitac333 Жыл бұрын

@@evanrodriguez8093 send an email on what you're looking for to joseph@utilitac.com

@O2WarningSolutions-ic2hh Жыл бұрын

I have some duo ions…

@O2WarningSolutions-ic2hh Жыл бұрын

And R/B duo canons

@Jacob-mm8xq Жыл бұрын

Do you have an online store that we can buy products on?

@utilitac333 Жыл бұрын

Coming soon. In the meantime (844) 28-UPFIT

@marcuswhite1403 7 ай бұрын

Can you get parts for the Whelen light bars?

@utilitac333 6 ай бұрын

Yuh

@jamesallen7205 7 ай бұрын

Whats your thoughts on speed tech lights?

@utilitac333 7 ай бұрын

They're like a Chevy aveo. They kinda work till they don't then you just throw them out

@raymondrenteria4774 Жыл бұрын

does whelen have quad colors, or what brands out there have quad colors, red,blue,amber and white, let me know. I have the quad 800 mounted outside on the rear of my vehicle.

@utilitac333 Жыл бұрын

You need to flash 4 different colors from the same location?

@raymondrenteria4774 Жыл бұрын

@@utilitac333 i some time change it up at bit on the colors, especially on arrow, ill use 3 colors, on arrow, red blue and yellow, and use white for flood. i have 4 modes and all differnt color pattern

@utilitac333 Жыл бұрын

@@raymondrenteria4774 both SoundOff and whelen are limited to tri color. I see your situation, but typically blue is passenger and red is driver side

@Jacob-oq3uv 10 ай бұрын

@@utilitac333 @raymondrenteria4774 I do work with someone in my LE dept who is also a volunteer FF. We're allowed to upfit POV's for private jobs so he currently runs trios all around since in the LE capacity we run All blues w/ white on front/sides and amber on the rear. Then in his volunteer capacity he can only run red/white/amber. I know he wanted to have the option for amber front/sides and full scene w/ white on the rear but decided that the tried, true and trusted brand was worth losing that option and spending more money. He also gained the complete control core lets you have over the lights. He's actually the reason our new vehicles are being upfitted w/ core systems now. But now he can toggle through which color lights are activated by his slide switch/cruise buttons etc. So one button on his controller when off only allows amber/white lights to flash and no siren. When pressed once it allows all red and siren, when pressed twice it allows all blue and siren.

@amyhayhurst4762 8 ай бұрын

Wow all of those lignt are really cool what light bar is light sitting on the hood and what brand

@utilitac333 8 ай бұрын

Bro was lost before he even got past the video title

@amyhayhurst4762 8 ай бұрын

@@utilitac333 um what do you mean by that

@rickfrank7934 3 ай бұрын

@@amyhayhurst4762your answer lies within.

@elmsroth8850 6 күн бұрын

Well I have some feniex quad on my bike and never had issues with them

@baddriversofthenorcalarea500 Жыл бұрын

How are soundoff signal lights?

@killinglyfiremedia Жыл бұрын

I love them! They are pretty good.

@utilitac333 Жыл бұрын

They're right up next to Whelen regarding reliability and quality. In fact, their mPower silicone lights are proving to be better in some cases

@beakfish7319 Жыл бұрын

@@utilitac333 yup i would have to agree.

@BadDriversOfNorthCarolina Жыл бұрын

Who are the two worse than Feniex?

@adawg39402 Жыл бұрын

SpeedTech has to be on that list

@carvdecarv 7 ай бұрын

Did you just say that Legacy stickers for $7k?!? I think you meant $1700??

@utilitac333 7 ай бұрын

List

@alexmchaggis37 7 ай бұрын

That’s the old Fenix, they have improved. Whelen is still the best!

@autismothegreat1741 6 ай бұрын

What size bar is on the truck?

@utilitac333 6 ай бұрын

54 I think

@TACTICOOLJOE94 9 ай бұрын

I need a professionals opinion. Speaking of whelen, I’m fixing to install a dash light for my unit. I’m in between whelen vs Soundoff.

@utilitac333 9 ай бұрын

We did a basic video on that. If it's just for a dash light, I'd go with whatever is cheaper. Can't go wrong with Whelen or SoundOff

@Tundralifted Жыл бұрын

Where are you located? I’m a volunteer firefighter in NY and would be interested in a Whelen package.

@utilitac333 Жыл бұрын

About 1.5 hours south of the NY border. Utilitac.com

@Tundralifted Жыл бұрын

@@utilitac333 thanks

@Tundralifted Жыл бұрын

@@utilitac333I just looked you guys up, only 2hrs 51 minutes away from me very doable. I’m interested in Whelen liberty bar 2 trio colors. I already have the Whelen core system with 2 expansion modules. It’s brand new never been installed.

@utilitac333 Жыл бұрын

@@Tundralifted very expensive bar, but we'll give you good deal. bids@utilitac.com

@Tundralifted Жыл бұрын

@@utilitac333 let me know

@222bobafett4 6 ай бұрын

You name a problem, I've had it with Whelen products. moisture in the lenses, even on interior mounted lights, failing siren amps that they wouldn't warranty, clouding lens material. I gave up on them and switched to Feniex and ran their products for 7 years inside and out without a single hiccup. I'm conflicted about my next vehicle because the experts and my personal experience diverge...

@utilitac333 6 ай бұрын

Won't find moisture in an mPower

@222bobafett4 6 ай бұрын

@@utilitac333 ahh SoundOff...I've never had their products but I used to know an installer who was quite fond of them.

@baddriversofthenorcalarea500 Жыл бұрын

Are feniex really that bad? Speed Tech Lights bad or just slightly better?

@utilitac333 Жыл бұрын

Speed tech is forbidden on this channel. Please move on

@baddriversofthenorcalarea500 Жыл бұрын

@@utilitac333 Lmfao understood. I must have made a typo or something 👀

@O2WarningSolutions-ic2hh Жыл бұрын

STL isn’t even in the same league as ANY of these…and Feniex is like the alternate who occasional dresses for the game but still rarely plays much….while STL keeps trying out for teams they couldn’t possibly make - and worse, they actually get worse year after year. STL is an Amazon product…only ones worse are ETD (extreme statically dynamic) which is just a flat out fraud / scam

@rescue4712 11 ай бұрын

If u said the whelen bar is ,$ 7000..00 I don't know who ur buying from,I only paid 2400..00 for mine brand new,and it's the exact same light bar just different color

@utilitac333 11 ай бұрын

Whelen list price

@nicholashorne5 11 ай бұрын

A Whelen legacy Duo light bar dosen't cost $7000 anywhere if that's what your charging your customers you are ripping them off they are competitively price with the Feniex bar, but its funny you said you don't make any money on your local customers tho, that makes a lot of since.

@utilitac333 11 ай бұрын

List price

@Zaku7032 Жыл бұрын

Now I'm curious what the second and the most shit lighting companies are

@masterchiefherosneverdie3863 Жыл бұрын

The old feniex lights are trash the new ones are actually pretty good

@henryfire0762 Жыл бұрын

Fenix are ass I use to love them until I bought there fake IONs and bought whelen IONs, I love whelen now!

@aragorn4370 6 ай бұрын

Whelem for the win

@jmhm17 14 күн бұрын

Cant beat Whelen but their price is stupid high for vol/call guys. You sound like a solid company giving a huge deal but a whelen upfit would be like 10k bucks. So that leaves us with Fenix, STL, UBL, or Amazon..

@D.D.REAPER 7 ай бұрын

whelen is top of the line nothing comes close , i use Feniex only because I'm broke as fuuuk lol surprisingly ive had no issues had them on my car for almost 3 years , now that being said im a slicktop pov , i have some lights on the exterior. i have heard other people complaining about feniex though, ive been lucky i guess. i am in the market for a roof light bar right now id love to have a whelen all white buutt whelen is the best but expensive as fuck but i love them my spotlights are all whelen siren is to considerable louder than feniex

@drfowler6525 Ай бұрын

Can’t help but notice you still have the factory wrapping on the Feniex bar which does effect it’s brightness a bit, not seen the issue of the blue you are getting. Have had 1 bar develop moister in it but than what light hasn’t. All my customers are requesting Feniex and getting rid of their Whelen, code 3, etc brands for Feniex. No complaints about products breaking as yet but plenty on how much abuse they been taking. End of the day no one brand is the best, it’s just another product with a price tag. Personally I go Feniex cause it’s affordable and been the best product I’ve used interior and exterior. Keep upfiting, some one gotta do it.

@littlekuz Жыл бұрын

Where y’all located?

@utilitac333 Жыл бұрын

Saint Marys PA. Need a job?

@Rummeltobi 10 ай бұрын

@@utilitac333 are you looking for people who can properly program Whelen setups, especially Core?

@prosperity4444 Жыл бұрын

Even federal signal is going downhill their bars are not that bright especially the slr and code 3 just sucks now.

@utilitac333 Жыл бұрын

They've fallen behind on the technology :(

@prosperity4444 Жыл бұрын

@@utilitac333 i wish whelen would bring back the delta rotabeam i would kill to find one

@selteacher 3 ай бұрын

Not to mention that Feniex "Customer Service" is intentionally rude and condescending;.

@atomicrussian01 2 ай бұрын

I have been lucky and received great customer service. It sucks that you weren’t able to.

@SIGINT007 8 ай бұрын

Whelen lightheads absolutely suck at keeping condensation/water out of them. All is good for a year or two and then all bets are off. Unfortunately, there is no one company that can claim perfection.

@utilitac333 8 ай бұрын

True...

@Bravo107GamingandTributes 7 ай бұрын

Kinda........nearly........impossible to prevent condensation. It's quite difficult to prevent. Moisture and the atmosphere tends to cause problems with internals. It's the same thing for even normal headlights and taillights. You can't prevent them from fogging up since that's just how water works and how temperature can effect them.

@publicsafetyinvestigations999 Жыл бұрын

Lighting packages shouldn't cost $4000+ bucks for vehicles that only are in service 4-6 years. Why not disclose your exact pricing and costs, pricing shell games in this industry where many are being ripped off

@utilitac333 Жыл бұрын

I think we covered list price and costs. We're an open book. What would you like to know?

@Rummeltobi 10 ай бұрын

One way to save money is by reusing lights/ lightbars from old vehicles. Whelen lightbars can do 20 years and more. Most Whelen products made from 1/1/2023 are covered by a 10 year warranty so they're guaranteed to last at least 2 generations of cruisers.

@t.j.seputis Жыл бұрын

so feniex is #3 whats #2 and #1 worst

@jguerra0117 Жыл бұрын

Probably Speedtech and Xsprite lol

@utilitac333 Жыл бұрын

@@jguerra0117 retweet

@08_crown_vic Жыл бұрын

@@utilitac333what about UBL?

@firefighterbrian2585 15 күн бұрын

@@08_crown_vic ubl isn't that bad but still not the best

@capitolemiproducer 3 ай бұрын

Federal is the original and the best. Accept no substitution

@jesterflight8593 6 ай бұрын

No Bueno lights

@johnpage5391 10 ай бұрын

My feniex light bar has been great. My whole truck has feniex on it and is still brighter than all of whelen that the rest of the fleet

@utilitac333 9 ай бұрын

@Bse140 8 ай бұрын

⁠@@utilitac333Glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦! The Russian military is filled with drunks and junk equipment!

@Gchupp 5 ай бұрын

Can you turn the other cheek and pretend ohio is local for 1 sale😂

@utilitac333 4 ай бұрын

We do more sales out of state than we do in state

@frankies6770 Жыл бұрын

Of course you can go with sound off and get a better like an either one at a better price

@utilitac333 Жыл бұрын

Yessir. Product dependent

@jeffbrinker5334 5 ай бұрын

ive had whelen lights as well and water gets in them as well ive had no issues with feniex its not because i cant afford whelen but feniex is just as good but hasnt been in the business as long does whelen have more options yes but dont knock something you havent used for a good period of time and also not everyone has a whelen budget

@blancopolar4674 Ай бұрын

🤔😱🤗🙏🙌👏🇻🇪💰😭😥

@069751 Жыл бұрын

Whelen is the same your buying a name and warranty they suck also fail all the time and fill with water...

@utilitac333 Жыл бұрын

@069751 Жыл бұрын

I got 4 2022 Ford explorer utility's straight out the shop already with burnt whelen legacys and halfway burnt whelen ion trios and a few burnt out whelen tracers... so yea all brands are garbage its really just the warranty thats better from each company. My opinion i like soundoff signal but those are problematic also.

@utilitac333 Жыл бұрын

@@069751 you either have shitty luck or a shitty installer. Can't go wrong with mPower

@Bravo107GamingandTributes 7 ай бұрын

@donls1sscme Жыл бұрын

Take the plastic off of the feniex bar ... they both have 5 year warranty and whelen doesn't offer quad your a whelen fan boy for overpriced shit whelen fails often too

@deepsouthmotorcaradventure5999 Жыл бұрын

May help if they level the bar, so it will be more of an even comparison

@utilitac333 Жыл бұрын

Uh oh. The poors found the comment section

@donls1sscme Жыл бұрын

@utilitac333 I know you ain't talking to me mfr ... I got over 15k in feniex on my personal lly owned demo vehicle ... I could buy your lil mickey mouse shop out and fire everyone your whats wrong with the upfitter business trying too hard whelen is good shit but way overpriced

@donls1sscme Жыл бұрын

@deepsouthmotorcaradventure5999 and take the plastic off he's doing it unfair to please his whelen rep

@SIGINT007 8 ай бұрын

@@utilitac333classy