When A Killer Doesn't Realize He's Being Recorded

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The Villains

The Villains

4 ай бұрын

Mary Kay “Katie” Wohlfarth was described as a beautiful person who was young at heart and in love with life. The 68-year-old was never seen without a smile, and her friends recounted how the little things in life would fill her with joy. Mary was a resident of Akron, Ohio, where she worked as an antique dealer and had quite a high standing in society. Loved by almost everyone she met, her friends and family had no idea why Mary was made the target of such a gruesome crime.
Mary’s family stated that they last spoke to her on June 17, 2019. Since then, she completely dropped off the radar and was unreachable over calls or texts. Besides, she even failed to attend to business at her antique shop, and there was no news about the missing woman for two days. Worried and anxious about Mary’s well-being, her family finally reported her missing on June 19, and the police immediately began their investigation. Fortunately, it did not take long for authorities to find a breakthrough in the case.From the beginning of the investigation, the police made a massive headway as the victim’s body was recovered from the suspect’s storage unit. Besides, the suspect in question was also captured on CCTV footage, and it did not take long for authorities to determine his identity as 35-year-old Michael J. Olson. Michael, who worked as a handyman, knew Mary and had even worked for her on previous occasions. However, there was no indication of an apparent altercation or feud between the two that would have led to murder.

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@v4myy
@v4myy 4 ай бұрын
i heard if i say your name 3 times i would get pinned :O The Villains The Villains The Villains ( lol idk what im doing )
@louniece1650
@louniece1650 4 ай бұрын
🤭🥰🥰🥰
@v4myy
@v4myy 4 ай бұрын
aint no way i got pinned.. thanks The Villains
@josephinepeery6938
@josephinepeery6938 4 ай бұрын
😅 nice one 👍
@cautionTosser
@cautionTosser 4 ай бұрын
spooky O_O
@IamWhoIam2023
@IamWhoIam2023 4 ай бұрын
Stand in the front of a mirror and say his name 3 times
@HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks
@HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks 4 ай бұрын
He didn't just snap. He waited for her to leave and then hid inside her unit and waited for her to come back so he could ambush her. That's not just snapping.
@peacemaker357
@peacemaker357 4 ай бұрын
SICK.
@donald1841
@donald1841 4 ай бұрын
Premeditated. Thought through. No snapping required.
@Kodakcompactdisc
@Kodakcompactdisc 4 ай бұрын
Ya totally not cool.
@carrieannkouri2151
@carrieannkouri2151 4 ай бұрын
1st degree murder.
@PongoDaMan
@PongoDaMan 4 ай бұрын
its almost like you dont understand how words work
@rjjohnson2
@rjjohnson2 4 ай бұрын
His willingness to talk with police suggests he believed in his cloak of invisibility
@1z2x3c45b
@1z2x3c45b 4 ай бұрын
Think he watched too much Harry Potter? (He definitely didn't read it though).
@sonquatsch8585
@sonquatsch8585 4 ай бұрын
@@1z2x3c45b yet another one sentence sermon in the comment section. bravo !
@jujutrini8412
@jujutrini8412 4 ай бұрын
😂
@kristenmarielle3497
@kristenmarielle3497 4 ай бұрын
😅😅
@benr.4238
@benr.4238 4 ай бұрын
I don't think he has trying to hide himself. He was trying to hide the fact that he was covered in blood.
@jayclark5912
@jayclark5912 4 ай бұрын
That person who called is a good dude. Looking out for neighbors.
@thejoke2791
@thejoke2791 4 ай бұрын
He owns the rental units
@LD-mu4eg
@LD-mu4eg 4 ай бұрын
doesnt change anything clown@@thejoke2791
@birdieorourke5507
@birdieorourke5507 4 ай бұрын
Exactly. He could have not bothered! But, tape video said the killer was getting his post delivered there....which was against policy. So, he checked video recordings at units. Thank God as cops didn't even though she was reported missing.
@gingerlygirl8415
@gingerlygirl8415 4 ай бұрын
Ohio gets a lot of crap. But Ohioians are good at helping out police when we witness anything suspicious.
@lc4life369
@lc4life369 3 ай бұрын
He was looking out for his costomer but still. Respect to him. He didnt wait for the cops to ask him to review his cameras. He took it a pawn himself and is most likely the reason this investigation was solved so quickly.
@toddsmith1969
@toddsmith1969 4 ай бұрын
I love how the family gave police a whole page of her information. My family wouldn't even know I was gone.
@wilfredocaban3542
@wilfredocaban3542 4 ай бұрын
Mine either
@sonquatsch8585
@sonquatsch8585 4 ай бұрын
@@wilfredocaban3542 mine wouldn't know, wouldn't care.
@wilfredocaban3542
@wilfredocaban3542 4 ай бұрын
@@sonquatsch8585 I know the feeling just keep your head up and remember blood doesn't make you family.
@ShelleyBean1808
@ShelleyBean1808 4 ай бұрын
I relate ❤
@wilfredocaban3542
@wilfredocaban3542 4 ай бұрын
@@ShelleyBean1808 sorry to hear that nobody should be alone especially if you have children.
@Mediocre_JT
@Mediocre_JT 4 ай бұрын
You can smell him through the screen.
@realemonful
@realemonful 4 ай бұрын
He should wear a bra
@hicknopunk
@hicknopunk 4 ай бұрын
I can feel him through my phone case 🤢
@MUFC1933
@MUFC1933 4 ай бұрын
I thought that 😂
@ecosse1982
@ecosse1982 4 ай бұрын
send me the link for your screen please
@suzannenichols6900
@suzannenichols6900 4 ай бұрын
I agree.
@BunnyQueen97
@BunnyQueen97 4 ай бұрын
She played pokemon 🥺 sweet little lady, no one deserves that but she certainly didn’t.
@hellboy6661234
@hellboy6661234 4 ай бұрын
natural selection. dont be a victim
@crispycritter7022
@crispycritter7022 4 ай бұрын
Plus, there are other deviants in Akron, OH, that play Pokémon like Cyraxx.
@thatguy4305
@thatguy4305 4 ай бұрын
who is cyraxx? i have heard that name before@@crispycritter7022
@jakeencinas2389
@jakeencinas2389 4 ай бұрын
​@@crispycritter7022all adults playing a children's game are deviants
@primesspct2
@primesspct2 4 ай бұрын
I loved that too. Here she was trying to help this guy out, by offering him work and a place to stay while he did the work. She seems like a good hearted and interesting lady. May she rest in peace. One look at his flab was enough to tell me, he was wholly unfamiliar, with any kind of manual labor. Construction? Get real.
@Titanium_Cranium
@Titanium_Cranium 4 ай бұрын
Seeing this guy recoil in horror when the cops ask if he was dating the poor lady that he killed just makes me hate him orders of magnitude more than I would otherwise. Asked about dating her & he replies "Have you seen her?" made my blood boil. RIP sweet lady.
@suzannenichols6900
@suzannenichols6900 4 ай бұрын
I haven't been to that point yet. He thinks he's a hottie? Maybe to other prisoners.🤔
@suzannenichols6900
@suzannenichols6900 4 ай бұрын
Is there a reason he's shirtless LOL. But it makes this interrogation tough to watch.
@suzannenichols6900
@suzannenichols6900 4 ай бұрын
Sometimes I actually have some sympathy for the perpetrator too, but in this case I have absolutely NONE. It definitely all goes to his victim. I'd be surprised if this is his only one.
@KCSimsStarter
@KCSimsStarter 4 ай бұрын
The detective did great asking these questions. They made sure he couldn't make up any lies to claim innocent. For example he can't say "we dated that's how my DNA is on her or why I drove her car" that defense is off the table.
@wolfiethefurrygamer1908
@wolfiethefurrygamer1908 4 ай бұрын
He thinks she's ugly, he obviously hasn't seen himself in the mirror lately because his idea of "ugly" is obviously very egotistical on his part. She may be old but even older women like the victim can still look gorgeous as they were when they were in their twenty's This scumbag looks like he's aged like milk after that milk has been out in the boiling hot sun for a few hours
@janetwentz3259
@janetwentz3259 4 ай бұрын
He is REPULSIVE.
@lawliet6910
@lawliet6910 4 ай бұрын
Exactly the word in my head too. Absolutely revolting
@BOSSLADY-cu8vs
@BOSSLADY-cu8vs 4 ай бұрын
The Real Life Pig Pin, All He's Missing Is The Dirt Cloud
@aceydishy9338
@aceydishy9338 4 ай бұрын
@@BOSSLADY-cu8vs That was Linus. Just sayin'.
@BOSSLADY-cu8vs
@BOSSLADY-cu8vs 4 ай бұрын
@@aceydishy9338 Lol.... I fixed it
@clitsing6034
@clitsing6034 4 ай бұрын
and dumb as a rock
@jamiemiesler322
@jamiemiesler322 4 ай бұрын
I don’t think she said or did anything “wrong” or to piss him off. I think he’s just a cold blooded murderer & did what he did simply because he wanted to. Completely senseless & so sad.
@jugo1944
@jugo1944 4 ай бұрын
He's also incredibly stupid because the security cameras at these places are very visible, by intention, to discourage theft
@boring1770
@boring1770 4 ай бұрын
Agreed, she didn't make him mad with a comment on his gf or anything else, he's an animal ,he waited there to kill her, even after the high five, so messed up...
@TheSpaceMomma
@TheSpaceMomma 4 ай бұрын
Of course she didn’t. I wish we could know his real reason. He clearly planned this out, there was no “snapping.”
@asgplumbing781
@asgplumbing781 4 ай бұрын
Precisely
@tubethis777
@tubethis777 4 ай бұрын
Probably did other murders too
@deebee.14
@deebee.14 4 ай бұрын
If it wasn’t for the cameras he probably would never have been caught. Evil people walk amongst us each and every day, we tend to forget that so thank you for the reminder.
@veemon1995
@veemon1995 4 ай бұрын
He was in jail, the body was still in the store unit, it would've been rotten after a couple of days, the smell, or maybe his dad going into the store unit to pick something up, he was gonna get caught either way.
@wesleywarsmith1113
@wesleywarsmith1113 4 ай бұрын
@@veemon1995 If the body was still there then what we he wheeling out in the cans? I think they just found her lower torso, but that also doesnt make sense. Why would he only get rid of half the body?
@emmaleary3767
@emmaleary3767 4 ай бұрын
And, he was going to sell something on facebook, which goes to show that any of us could meet up with a killer. It's scary!
@BlueLineVibes
@BlueLineVibes 4 ай бұрын
@@wesleywarsmith1113 Veemon was stating that he moved the body from her storage unit to his, that the smell from his unit would eventually be exposed. Personally I think he robbed that store to get cash and head out of town with the body, but luckily he got caught.
@paulinegallagher7821
@paulinegallagher7821 4 ай бұрын
He would have been caught.
@hellboy6661234
@hellboy6661234 4 ай бұрын
im pretty sure he covered himself because he was covered in blood
@marielucier7982
@marielucier7982 4 ай бұрын
Makes tons of sense.
@annwithaplan9766
@annwithaplan9766 4 ай бұрын
That makes sense to me now.
@BlueLineVibes
@BlueLineVibes 4 ай бұрын
Yes that actually does make sense, he was covering himself with the sheet to hide the blood from people that may have been walking nearby. He truly forgot about the CCTV.
@abassett22
@abassett22 4 ай бұрын
@@BlueLineVibeshe didn’t know about the CCTV.
@MrGrimmi77
@MrGrimmi77 4 ай бұрын
​@@BlueLineVibeslove your videos bro! Long time fan!
@richardtscott7489
@richardtscott7489 4 ай бұрын
The moment the detective says: "well did you have sexual relations with her, or were you dating?" The moment he says no, He can no longer use it as a defense in court that they were having a relationship together, very important
@mirahgirl01
@mirahgirl01 Ай бұрын
Yes he can lol he can say I was embarrassed about the age difference and was lonely and desperate! He killed someone you think lying is beneath him lol!
@markusgarcia4136
@markusgarcia4136 28 күн бұрын
Good point!
@tom_something
@tom_something 4 ай бұрын
Asking him if they had been dating was very strategic. Since they likely found his semen at the crime scene, they wanted to make sure he couldn't present an alternative explanation. I mean, they still had him on murder, but a jury likely goes harder if there was also sexual assault involved.
@stephenm8898
@stephenm8898 3 ай бұрын
They wouldn't have known about any forensic evidence yet
@kiko7247
@kiko7247 3 ай бұрын
Oh no.. Don't tell me.. He even rap*d Kathy?!
@tom_something
@tom_something 3 ай бұрын
@@stephenm8898 Ah. The strategy still works for the same reason. Just in case.
@stephenm8898
@stephenm8898 3 ай бұрын
@@tom_something it wasn't because of semen but if you listen carefully he doesn't go into it but says she was found with her clothes in a manner that said 'she hadn't only been murdered'
@hellboy6661234
@hellboy6661234 4 ай бұрын
when he starts blaming the ex gf... he just describes himself
@RetroHollywood
@RetroHollywood 4 ай бұрын
Correct. Projection
@sonquatsch8585
@sonquatsch8585 4 ай бұрын
this.
@sonquatsch8585
@sonquatsch8585 4 ай бұрын
@@RetroHollywood the joke is he doesn't even know or understand what narcissism is, he just has heard it from other people used to describe who he is and thought he would use it to attempt to pull victim card. for him to project it, he would have to know it. he is utterly clueless.
@RetroHollywood
@RetroHollywood 4 ай бұрын
@@sonquatsch8585 those people have no emotions and are capable of anything
@helenawarsinnak
@helenawarsinnak 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely!!!
@ThePromiseDealer
@ThePromiseDealer 4 ай бұрын
It seems that he did realize he was being recorded but still couldn't resist attacking that woman. Crazy.
@kenw2225
@kenw2225 4 ай бұрын
How could anyone be so dumb to do this on film. He had to know they will I'd truck. He crazy as hell. He knew camera would catch him. He wanted to get in trouble and get caught. Insanity either way.
@wolfiethefurrygamer1908
@wolfiethefurrygamer1908 4 ай бұрын
​@@kenw2225eh, I kinda disagree If he knew he was caught on film and still did it anyway could be his way of saying "I'm dangerous, please put me away so I can't hurt anyone else" Some people who commit horrendous crimes like this are self-aware of how horrible they are but can't help it and if they truly hate doing what they do but have no self control, they will do things to make sure they get caught so they can't hurt anyone else. With how egotistical he is, I doubt that's the case but still, it could be an option
@sonquatsch8585
@sonquatsch8585 4 ай бұрын
@@kenw2225 right...this is not a spur of the moment killing. he was aware of the cameras, but i think he attaacked her first and THEN realised oh shit the cams...otherwise it doesn't make sense...i dont think he wanted to get caught. i think his low intelligence reminded him too late of the cameras. he is a real dummy.
@sonquatsch8585
@sonquatsch8585 4 ай бұрын
@@wolfiethefurrygamer1908 well according to your theory, with which i tend to strongly to agree, this would have to completely lay in his subconscious. i don't at all agree that he wanted to get caught. this monster is an extremely dumb monster. paying attention to the chronology, he didn't attempt to disguise himself until AFTER the attack. this means that directly prior to the attack, his mind was focused SOLEY on and was consumed by it, which is why he laid in wait for her without a disguise because he was already in her unit. AFTER the attack, he had enough, albeit too late, presence of mind to THEN disguise himself coming and going from hers and his storage unit. he simply wasn't smart enough for the magnitude of his crime to get away with it. he decided to rape and kill her and had to WAIT for her to do it. it is not as though ms wohlfahrt was with him in his unit or her unit and helping him where she yelled at him for being a demon, and THEN he snapped...he WAITED for her after LEAVING her unit, until she returned, THEN he returned to her unit to attack her, THEN he disguised himself like some wannabe KKK member.
@Hiforest
@Hiforest 4 ай бұрын
​@sonquatsch8585 Oh yeah, he lost it and wound up raping her as well as killing her? Aye right. This guy needs locked up with the key thrown away
@chelseanordick9831
@chelseanordick9831 4 ай бұрын
His whole torso is a melted candle
@oolat9863
@oolat9863 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@sharonpoitras8034
@sharonpoitras8034 4 ай бұрын
His man boobs are gross!
@FactStorm
@FactStorm 4 ай бұрын
Lmao, an insult to melted candles though :P
@markowright2960
@markowright2960 4 ай бұрын
😅😅😅 I thought that .
@communicationbreakdown256
@communicationbreakdown256 4 ай бұрын
He's doughy
@Jacob-nw6zc
@Jacob-nw6zc 4 ай бұрын
If there is one thing I've learned from watching a whole bunch of these videos other than don't commit crimes it's Maintaining eye contact = deception No eye contact = deception A moderate amount of eye contact = deception
@desertweasel6965
@desertweasel6965 4 ай бұрын
Usually, when someone is telling the truth, it is a mixture of the two. There's a balance with an innocent person. They don't maintain eye contact, but they also don't avoid eye contact. Guilty people do one or the other to the extreme. Either they look at you dead in the eyes and don't break eye contact, or they never make eye contact but for maybe a split second here and there.
@PalmBeachFlorida24
@PalmBeachFlorida24 4 ай бұрын
One word. Opportunity. Situational awareness is key. No one is off limits to comitt harm. Demonic people are Great Pretenders.
@inspectorgadget346
@inspectorgadget346 4 ай бұрын
Lol but its also many other things to look for. Crossing arms, hand movements, increased breathing which can be seen on video playback of the interrogation, how you respond to answers etc. Fir instance when asked if he went to thr storage unit on Monday, he delayed his response by saying, oh what's today Wednesday, hmm Monday im not sure. Mu days blend together. That was a way to act to distance himself snd make it appear Monday would not be eventful and he would not be recall such an uneventful day
@alysononoahu8702
@alysononoahu8702 4 ай бұрын
Cops= I feel guilty 😢
@madbornstudio
@madbornstudio 4 ай бұрын
Lies always come out
@synthiaofulster8388
@synthiaofulster8388 4 ай бұрын
Being subjected to seeing him touch his nipples because he's cold makes me feel assaulted. So so so gross.
@jesseerickson662
@jesseerickson662 4 ай бұрын
Oh come on. You liked it.😅
@sonnylatchstring
@sonnylatchstring 4 ай бұрын
35 yo and such a wasted body. He was doomed anyway.
@kathyglass2922
@kathyglass2922 4 ай бұрын
He's got moobs.gross
@BeardedRealm
@BeardedRealm 2 ай бұрын
Especially with woman boobs on a fatty
@STHFGDBY
@STHFGDBY 4 ай бұрын
This killer is destined for Hell. This woman was in retirement age, just enjoying her days with her cats that she adored, only to become a victim of a horrible despicable evil pos..May she rest in peace. I hope her cats are being cared for as she would have wanted...
@user-rv1ym6ep5l
@user-rv1ym6ep5l 4 ай бұрын
Bro. Why would a holy God that knows our hearts and has a plan allow a monster to infiltrate the flock of sheep he promises to protect. Stop the bullshit. If there is a god we tell nothing but lies about it.
@FourthRoot
@FourthRoot 4 ай бұрын
The fact that the family is not hesitant to help in the search would not necessarily exonerate them, but it certainly speaks to their favor.
@sonquatsch8585
@sonquatsch8585 4 ай бұрын
i think that statement was made in hindsight. we all understand looking for someone doesn't exonerate them since there are such cases and not seldom...but after the presentation of evidence it's just so clear how much they cared for her, which i think lay at the root of the statement of exoneration.
@Bobbbybags
@Bobbbybags 4 ай бұрын
It was clear that they were innocent to me as well but that was my initial thought after hearing that statement haha
@Cumdown
@Cumdown 4 ай бұрын
Yah, its means nothing. Someone NOT looking means something
@FourthRoot
@FourthRoot 4 ай бұрын
@Cumdown It doesn't mean nothing. It just doesn't mean much. If observation A is more anymore likely to be observed given assumption B, then observing not A is necessarily some degree of evidence in favor of not B. Inference from Bayes' theorem.
@ianrichardspangler
@ianrichardspangler 4 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing
@user-pv1kr3br8b
@user-pv1kr3br8b 4 ай бұрын
Whenever children, women, elderly and disabled people are targeted, there should be an additional 25 years added to the offender’s sentence. I hate this guy
@Kuzka_
@Kuzka_ 4 ай бұрын
Yeah. Screw all men, right? You do realize it's one of the reasons some men are like this? Because society tells them they don't matter.
@Anglovox
@Anglovox 4 ай бұрын
So, the lives of men aren't worth as much as some others? Is that what you are saying?
@j.e.g2321
@j.e.g2321 4 ай бұрын
25 years ,nono death the the way are courts are today he'll be out in 10.
@chuckmorton8823
@chuckmorton8823 4 ай бұрын
agreed
@hauntedshadowslegacy2826
@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 4 ай бұрын
@@j.e.g2321Parole can be denied. And it often is when it comes to killers.
@liespypolygraph
@liespypolygraph 4 ай бұрын
I am working in forensics. Well done to the investigators cracking this case. No remorse, endless denial and then the confession.
@ARtandSoul998
@ARtandSoul998 4 ай бұрын
well it was kinda all laid out for them, the family for one, the guy phoning in, and the cctv, how much investigating did it take?
@YJM7471
@YJM7471 4 ай бұрын
They got him to confess.
@edgarlee2802
@edgarlee2802 4 ай бұрын
And now he sleeps in a different kind of storage unit.
@user-cx1gc8pd4i
@user-cx1gc8pd4i 3 ай бұрын
Locked up in a locker
@jooro52
@jooro52 Ай бұрын
Good one hehehe... 😊
@jasonolinger7585
@jasonolinger7585 4 ай бұрын
One thing i learned early on in life is to not associate yourself with low life losers, don't help them, do not build any type pf personal relationship with them because it will almost always backfire on you. Keep your social circle tight and be very careful of what type of people you let in because there are a lot of guys like him out there who have nothing to lose and will try to take what you have because they know they are too weak to get it themselves.
@andybrown6981
@andybrown6981 4 ай бұрын
Good points. Better to be by self and just work hard than have idiot friends bothering you and taking your precious time.
@karmaleenash2841
@karmaleenash2841 4 ай бұрын
My grandmother told me to judge a person by the five people closest to them. We are known by the company we keep. Look around. Choose your friends wisely.
@SatanenPerkele
@SatanenPerkele 4 ай бұрын
Yep. I Made the mistake to date a criminal. Dude had literal red stains on the walls and he admitted it wasn't strawberry jam 😨 I'm happy to be alive!
@Paul-dk8yp
@Paul-dk8yp 4 ай бұрын
No good deed goes unpunished sadly
@charliework1049
@charliework1049 4 ай бұрын
@@SatanenPerkele Ok, I have to bite, because I'm so curious. Why did you date him in the first place? I see it so much with women - either you just didn't know, or my assumption is that there's some allure to the "danger" or whatever, perhaps a pretty charismatic guy. Just seems odd to be involved with a demographic that's the most likely to injure or kill you in a domestic dispute. Is it the thing where women feel like they can "fix" someone and feel obligated to try to help? Maybe a little of "oh he would never do it to me" thrown in? Sorry if I sound like a jerk here, but I am genuinely curious
@honeybeautysecrets7249
@honeybeautysecrets7249 4 ай бұрын
I really do not believe this is the only person this man has killed he is a serial killer but he is concealing them from the police. He was just too comfortable with Killing. What a poor excuse of a man.
@NuVibes.
@NuVibes. 4 ай бұрын
Serial killers are notoriously hard to trace.. they don't murder someone when they know cameras are operating.
@quackhead8938
@quackhead8938 4 ай бұрын
​@@NuVibes.serial killers aren't geniuses
@NuVibes.
@NuVibes. 4 ай бұрын
They ain't stupid either.@@quackhead8938
@bankiey
@bankiey 4 ай бұрын
@@quackhead8938yeah but this guy is just a complete idiot
@angieperez3864
@angieperez3864 4 ай бұрын
Maybe not a serial killer but definitely not his first time.
@lc4life369
@lc4life369 3 ай бұрын
Respect to the storage unit owner who cared enough to check the cameras when he found out one of his costomers was missing. Im sure the cops would of asked to see them anyway but he went and did it before they even contacted him.
@iangallager4091
@iangallager4091 4 ай бұрын
this man,s father must to this day and forever more be bitterly disappointed with the person his son turned out to be
@eponack
@eponack 4 ай бұрын
Maybe, or maybe that tree wasn’t planted on a hill.
@Jagonath
@Jagonath 4 ай бұрын
@@eponack It's possible the father isn't really the father. But still raised him (presumably) as a father should. Either way he must be disgusted.
@Leosandoval-pd6di
@Leosandoval-pd6di 4 ай бұрын
​@@eponack, don't know because his own father didn't even offer for him to live in his garage. When some of my relatives went through hard times, we all helped.
@nadinefontaine5758
@nadinefontaine5758 4 ай бұрын
Maybe his father didn't let him sleep in his garage because he knew/suspected how dangerous he is
@Basicskills957
@Basicskills957 3 ай бұрын
Father probably pos too lol
@mamakat114
@mamakat114 4 ай бұрын
He will now live in another box. Rest in Peace sweet Katie
@sonquatsch8585
@sonquatsch8585 4 ай бұрын
beautifully said. katie did not deserve what happened to her. RIP.
@ChainsawGutsFuck
@ChainsawGutsFuck 4 ай бұрын
And his own box will be lived in and loved by other men, as grim as that sounds.
@badmonkey2222
@badmonkey2222 4 ай бұрын
Imagine the terror that woman felt when she realized she was being attacked by that beastial monster.
@andythomas9564
@andythomas9564 4 ай бұрын
It’s so creepy watching him duck behind vehicle stalking his victim
@YungFlaco001
@YungFlaco001 4 ай бұрын
*stalking** you dumb dumb
@PalmBeachFlorida24
@PalmBeachFlorida24 4 ай бұрын
Stalking, gathering the adrenalin for the s**ual unaliving
@karashea7823
@karashea7823 4 ай бұрын
Yes that was chilling to see him creepily revealing his ill intentions
@sheiladineen9483
@sheiladineen9483 4 ай бұрын
*stalking
@andythomas9564
@andythomas9564 4 ай бұрын
@@sheiladineen9483 not sure why I did that…brains giving out on me
@OmegaKsiDoll
@OmegaKsiDoll 4 ай бұрын
He was covering himself not for the cameras (which he probably didn’t even know exist) but to hide blood stains on his clothes in case he encounters other people
@makyapierce5486
@makyapierce5486 4 ай бұрын
Atleast the camera was clear enough to see
@PattMcCrotch
@PattMcCrotch 4 ай бұрын
The cops knew the perp and Katie were not dating and knew he would say no about it. This is all for later in court to say this was not a heat of the moment relationship killing and get him less years. These cops are pros and were playing this guy like a fiddle. Thank goodness we have them. ❤
@brenandbruiser9885
@brenandbruiser9885 4 ай бұрын
It was also to keep him from explaining away his semen being found in her.
@makattak88
@makattak88 4 ай бұрын
Detectives, but yes.
@NoBetterBentley
@NoBetterBentley 4 ай бұрын
I doubt anyone in history has ever been innocent who was in that room shirtless
@jacobrohr9658
@jacobrohr9658 4 ай бұрын
I'm dead lololoolol so true
@jasonolinger7585
@jasonolinger7585 4 ай бұрын
especially with a body like that
@Love-scripture
@Love-scripture 4 ай бұрын
Identical to a melted candle.🙄😂
@cp_digital
@cp_digital 4 ай бұрын
This is a guy pushing 40, still asking his dad for gas money, living out of storage unit, no kids, wife or really anything motivating him to be a productive member of society. I think he killed that woman to get 3 meals a day and a bed in a cell.
@justsaying3729
@justsaying3729 4 ай бұрын
That's more common than you think, Shiftless and Lazy.
@desertweasel6965
@desertweasel6965 4 ай бұрын
Nah, you go to prison for what he did and I promise you are not going to have a pleasant stay. Even the guards will serve you up to population.
@Jagonath
@Jagonath 4 ай бұрын
There are tens of millions of poor people in the US who don't commit rape and murder.
@misrupt5226
@misrupt5226 3 ай бұрын
Anyone who hurts women/children/elderly does not have a fun time in prison and everyone else there makes sure of it lol, so this would be pretty dumb on his part.
@audie-cashstack-uk4881
@audie-cashstack-uk4881 Ай бұрын
There's plenty infa t millions of nice functional people living like this last time I checked 5 grand a month rent or 3/4 of a million for a tiny home a d men being deoniesed as all monsters and bigots is quite common in are far left littersl bankrupt western world
@droppedlung
@droppedlung 4 ай бұрын
"Just snapped" is a lie. He lurked and hid behind that van, waiting for the right moment and then didn't attack. Later he went inside her unit when she was not there. That is mindfulness behavior. Lastly....he S-A'd her. The report neglects to say if she was alive or dead, but if someone makes someone angry...they loose their mind and hit....not do what he did. I can see if thats all the district attorney was going to get from him of a confession, but that excuse seems bogus. He is just a plain old sick rhymes with duck and thank god he is behind bars
@pslives4185
@pslives4185 4 ай бұрын
What makes this so terrifying for me worrying about my mom, my girlfriend, my sisters and every other friend or loved one who is a girl or woman is the fact that there are tons of these sick, homicidal, sadistic assholes we have to share this world with. Also while my mother and sisters are generally aware and looking out for these types, my girlfriend, who is very pretty, doesn’t think a thing like this could happen to her when in reality nobody is really safe. I pray everyday, through out the day, that they will be safe under Gods protection and I have to believe that or I would always be racked with worry for them.
@Lil_Poohfluffybum
@Lil_Poohfluffybum 4 ай бұрын
I never go out after 6pm. I never go where anybody is three people across on sidewalks, I cross. I keep myself in check. I watch always and trust nobody. You have to. Regardless of appearance seeming tidy especially. Smoke and mirrors. 🙋🇨🇦and being pretty is not the only one who is targeted. Just having the parts they are after. Female.
@vaper106
@vaper106 3 ай бұрын
Under Gods protection? Really. Have you not just watched this vid. He/she isn’t protecting jack
@audie-cashstack-uk4881
@audie-cashstack-uk4881 Ай бұрын
So is it OK if men and boys are killed to you as most violent cri e victim ate either men or boys just asking
@Bettinasisrg
@Bettinasisrg 4 ай бұрын
I've rarely been physically nauseated by someone where you literally feel sick but this guy absolutely does it. No good deed
@jeszrah5889
@jeszrah5889 Ай бұрын
Same 🤢
@MeyerBen27
@MeyerBen27 4 ай бұрын
Throughout the hundreds of true crime videos I've watched the most effective interrogation technique I've seen is "are you a cold blooded killer or was this just an accident?"
@fredlarsen3707
@fredlarsen3707 4 ай бұрын
The Reid technique
@desertweasel6965
@desertweasel6965 4 ай бұрын
Or " We know you're not a monster and we want to help you, but you have to help us first. We know accidents happen and we know you're not a cold blooded killer"
@Alex_dlc
@Alex_dlc 4 ай бұрын
Editing the thumbnail to make it look like there’s blood is not cool
@nachashiesu-sophia
@nachashiesu-sophia 4 ай бұрын
Agreed. Using that kind of misleading clickbait shows how little respect they have for their viewers.
@notasb4
@notasb4 4 ай бұрын
Agreed !! Totally uncalled for.
@fernandoxavier5688
@fernandoxavier5688 4 ай бұрын
I don't watch channels that do it. Nex time a video by this channel is recommended to me, I will just click "Don't recommend me this channel anymore".
@Peyote1312
@Peyote1312 4 ай бұрын
I mean, he's already exploiting the whole incident for clicks. The whole shtick is pretty trashy to begin with. The bloody thumbnail is really where you draw the line? Get off yer high horse, granddad.
@GeorgiaWhisper
@GeorgiaWhisper 4 ай бұрын
​@@nachashiesu-sophia Not only does it show little respect to the viewers but the family as well.
@kimberlyhayes6006
@kimberlyhayes6006 4 ай бұрын
I've seen this case numerous times, and it still gets me every time I see him pulling those garbage cans out, knowing her body is in there. 😢
@lackerbitandersson6241
@lackerbitandersson6241 4 ай бұрын
This guy is obviously used to lying his way around in life. Disgusting. Poor lady 😢
@AA-tv5gv
@AA-tv5gv 4 ай бұрын
He is so arrogant it’s disgusting
@kimberlyharkness2780
@kimberlyharkness2780 4 ай бұрын
Everybody's asking why he did it. Pay attention cause he tells on himself. He blames it on problems with his narcissist girlfriend. He is describing himself. It's called projection. He's the narcissist. So, he didn't get his way about something, experienced narcissistic rage directed at the girlfriend. He couldn't murder/rape her and get away with it. But figured he could take it out on someone else
@Tylerrr86
@Tylerrr86 4 ай бұрын
I think it was 100% a sexually motivated crime.
@sonquatsch8585
@sonquatsch8585 4 ай бұрын
the only thing i would disagree with, from the evidence, is that he is completely clueless to what being a narcissist is, which is one of the hallmarks of narcissism or npd. he KNOWS the word itself because this word has been used in his presence to describe who he is, from the perspective of his ex and his certain other hapless victims. however for him to be able to project this, he would have to be able to appreciate on a conscious or even subconscious level what a narcissist is, and this is a paradox that practically never occurs in the true narcissist, which he is lets be clear. he is indeed describing himself, but he doesn't know or understand that he is describing himself. that just happened to be the case. this means for him to have used the term, in concert with his other statements he was most likely trying to play the victim, which was supported by those false statements of receiving abuse from his ex girlfriend, which in turn was an attempt to justify the rape and murder...again only cognizant of the fact that making such statements is something only "victims" do, but not necessarily understanding or having an in depth appreciation for what they mean. this guy was waaaaaaaaay too dumb for that.
@PalmBeachFlorida24
@PalmBeachFlorida24 4 ай бұрын
​@@Tylerrr86it was, yes
@evenesteven
@evenesteven 4 ай бұрын
I got vibes he was on hard drugs (which doesn't excuse anything). Looking for anything that could get him cash (why he broke into a restaurant). I didn't get those vibes at his trial. Just my impression.
@andybrown6981
@andybrown6981 4 ай бұрын
@@evenesteven Nah. He would have been taken out by dealers before all this because his personality means trouble. He's just a mental killer.
@Kat-I-am3333
@Kat-I-am3333 4 ай бұрын
This is like 6 yrs ago. She'd be 73 now (my age) 😢
@Paddyjay12
@Paddyjay12 4 ай бұрын
Habitual liar.. These types of dudes whole persona was hit hard when the internet and cameras came out to fact check
@audioauracle-dsyswpwanl-
@audioauracle-dsyswpwanl- 4 ай бұрын
😅 *Exactly!!!*
@BOSSLADY-cu8vs
@BOSSLADY-cu8vs 4 ай бұрын
That and his Daddy, the family is probably glad to get rid of him
@heyheytaytay
@heyheytaytay 4 ай бұрын
You don't see many geniuses in prison. This guy saw the camera there and still did what he did thinking somehow there would be reasonable doubt. XD
@ericalelle1080
@ericalelle1080 4 ай бұрын
23:46 Creep is so nervous he takes a swig from his now-empty water bottle.
@makyapierce5486
@makyapierce5486 4 ай бұрын
He knows it’s over
@Saladandfruitbowl
@Saladandfruitbowl 4 ай бұрын
😂😂
@carolmccorry3053
@carolmccorry3053 4 ай бұрын
Spoilt, lazy, entitled, he got shown that the world owes him nothing. To take the the of such a beautiful lady. RIP Kate, deepest sympathy to both families involved.
@rickbullock4331
@rickbullock4331 4 ай бұрын
What a pos. I hope he rots in prison. Obviously not a very bright individual. What a shame for that woman and her family and friends.
@alexcarter8807
@alexcarter8807 4 ай бұрын
*This* is why storage places will absolutely not let people live in the units.
@deltalimabravo6727
@deltalimabravo6727 4 ай бұрын
This is not the reason, it’s because they would charge more (joking) but seriously, there are laws regarding what amenities would need to be present. I suppose people would commit more crimes if they were there longer. Some people don’t need barely any time at all.
@evelynwaugh4053
@evelynwaugh4053 4 ай бұрын
Storage places just want to rent to normal, non criminals that need extra storage. Homeless people have a much larger percentage of issues such as drug addiction and lack of income that make them less stable and cause more problems. But this crime could have happened whether he lived there or not. Just him being there at all was the danger.
@TheLexiechey
@TheLexiechey 4 ай бұрын
Makes my skin crawl to watch him sit there & lie, knowing he knows its all on video, definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed, but a tool none the less.
@tazddevil4546
@tazddevil4546 4 ай бұрын
If you google human garbage his picture comes up
@tortoiselover
@tortoiselover 4 ай бұрын
Eww
@OldDood
@OldDood 4 ай бұрын
I have seen the whole interview a while back. He is disgusting. It shows him when he is by himself in that room reaching down and digging at his boys. Just gross then he wants to shake hands with the detectives. To abuse and kill that really kind lady is just monstrous. And for him to think he could get away with it just amazes me.
@robertgraham5486
@robertgraham5486 4 ай бұрын
And as he said touching his nose” I’m a picker and it bleeds” then wants to shake hands yech
@marcomarcon5802
@marcomarcon5802 4 ай бұрын
She was a wonderful human being whose mistake was to be too trusting. She was too nice to imagine that such evil exists, but it does
@AG-yj1jv
@AG-yj1jv 4 ай бұрын
Oh. My. God. I knew her years and years ago...had no idea. I was thinking it must just be the same name. Then they said Swissvale, PA. Condolences to the family❤, so very sorry for your pain. She was a great person. Beautiful human. Woahhh...not sure I can watch the rest, but I kinda need to. Woah... This is the 2nd really good person I've found out was murdered while watching the TV/video. It's so much more of a shock to find out this way. 😢
@LaurenOliviArt
@LaurenOliviArt 4 ай бұрын
So sorry for your loss ❤
@MCM1965
@MCM1965 4 ай бұрын
Wow, this guy is scary. That poor woman. RIP Katie 🙏
@spymonkey39
@spymonkey39 4 ай бұрын
Solid A cup, I'd say. How. Oh, how... did they not give him a shirt. Even their own!
@suzannenichols6900
@suzannenichols6900 4 ай бұрын
I kind of thought he was proud of showing it off somehow...or for some reason. Maybe that look works for him in other situations.
@phillower8806
@phillower8806 4 ай бұрын
It was probably cold af in there, they probably did it to make him uncomfortable and more likely to crack
@teresadivilbiss8936
@teresadivilbiss8936 4 ай бұрын
Oh he's a b cup.🤮
@erniern4498
@erniern4498 4 ай бұрын
Lmfao😅😅😅
@gangstamum
@gangstamum 4 ай бұрын
Saggy A cups at that!!
@MOEWETTA23
@MOEWETTA23 4 ай бұрын
Why are some people such evil losers🤬
@johnsinth8261
@johnsinth8261 4 ай бұрын
this guy is so relaxed it makes you wonder
@Nockturnmortem
@Nockturnmortem 4 ай бұрын
He was high as a kite. Likely meth.
@sunshinyday1901
@sunshinyday1901 4 ай бұрын
What drugs he is on?
@samuelvazquez6762
@samuelvazquez6762 4 ай бұрын
Poor lady to go out like that cause of this monster is so frustrating
@darrenmcmackin330
@darrenmcmackin330 4 ай бұрын
Crazy there are people out there like him.
@moshunit96
@moshunit96 4 ай бұрын
He didn't snap. He knew exactly what he was going to do when he snuck in and waited for her. I keep thinking about that high five they shared shortly before.
@jonzkha
@jonzkha 4 ай бұрын
His body is made of marshmallows
@suzannenichols6900
@suzannenichols6900 4 ай бұрын
👊🤣👍 Agree.
@BOSSLADY-cu8vs
@BOSSLADY-cu8vs 4 ай бұрын
Marshmallows to good, maybe some molded Styrofoam
@giovanna722
@giovanna722 4 ай бұрын
​@@BOSSLADY-cu8vs Someone said a melted candle.
@Lil_Poohfluffybum
@Lil_Poohfluffybum 4 ай бұрын
Never eat another marshmallow again. Tnx.😢
@BOSSLADY-cu8vs
@BOSSLADY-cu8vs 4 ай бұрын
@@giovanna722 Oh yeah, that's the one 🤦🏾‍♀️
@PalmBeachFlorida24
@PalmBeachFlorida24 4 ай бұрын
And this is how quickly a woman can vanish when a predator is stalking. This was a s**ually motivated unaliving.
@MrTruckerf
@MrTruckerf 4 ай бұрын
s**ually? Unaliving? What the hell kind of goofy, screwed up type of English are you mumbling?
@dariolivaja978
@dariolivaja978 4 ай бұрын
Unaliving?!
@PalmBeachFlorida24
@PalmBeachFlorida24 4 ай бұрын
@@dariolivaja978 Most times, YTube algorithms don't allow for the word *murder*
@spursfandan6081
@spursfandan6081 4 ай бұрын
Honestly, i just dont understand how anyone can just nonchalantly commit murder like this. How has he never done something like this before. Just how calm he was through this entire ordeal is beyond me. People that snap, do not duck down hiding and sneaking about. He stood at his vehicle and just decided this was what he was going to do and goes right ahead with commiting the most hideous surprise act of violence on an innocent lady that's just been helping him. May she r.i.p and may all her family and friends recieve God's healing warmth.
@williamrobbins-ru8ww
@williamrobbins-ru8ww 4 ай бұрын
I think he has do this stuff b4 _ just never got caught hence why he is so cocky about it . Thank God he got caught this time.
@engineeringdepartment7961
@engineeringdepartment7961 4 ай бұрын
I think the cops lied by saying they heard he was dating her. Brilliant!! I believe it was to make him defensive and to get him to deny having any sexual contact with her (consensual or forced). If that is true - great move by the detectives.
@paulinegallagher7821
@paulinegallagher7821 4 ай бұрын
That's what they do, they get the suspect to lie as much as possible, based on the facts they have already.
@andrewmoore7927
@andrewmoore7927 4 ай бұрын
Dude watched too many Scooby Doo cartoons
@TempestIsa
@TempestIsa 4 ай бұрын
I love listening to these detectives do their dance together, casting a wide net, nonchalant, seemingly benign questions, but then the darkness is descending onto this predator.......and suddenly he knows that they know. Poor Katie, we all just want to trust........but Ladies, stranger = danger!!!!
@CeruleanTalon1
@CeruleanTalon1 4 ай бұрын
I saw this covered a couple other times by KZfaq hosts and really think you went all out to make this video not only informative, but entertaining.
@tammybarrow4894
@tammybarrow4894 4 ай бұрын
What a jerk. A nice lady was hurt and killed because he is a looser. So sorry for the family and their loss.❤
@01baia
@01baia 4 ай бұрын
Blaming his ex-girlfriend! How disgusting. Taking NO responsibility for his heinous act. GGrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
@BOSSLADY-cu8vs
@BOSSLADY-cu8vs 4 ай бұрын
The fact that anybody would sleep with him and be his girlfriend, is the most repulsive part
@9xqspx6
@9xqspx6 4 ай бұрын
When there is such strong evidence, I don't think the murderer should be kept alive.
@StandForTruth205
@StandForTruth205 4 ай бұрын
Xanex and meth, "may cause felonies"
@JamieVileOfficial
@JamieVileOfficial 4 ай бұрын
One is sure to be MURDER lol …scary…..for real!
@ThrowbackRacing
@ThrowbackRacing 4 ай бұрын
But if you can't remember it then did it really happen..?
@dextermorgan1
@dextermorgan1 4 ай бұрын
​@@ThrowbackRacingUnfortunately, yes. 😊
@YungFlaco001
@YungFlaco001 4 ай бұрын
@@ThrowbackRacingno bro if you don’t remember then it’s all good 👍
@memoryalphamale
@memoryalphamale 4 ай бұрын
Xanax is a palindrome;)
@lilianmcguigan9240
@lilianmcguigan9240 4 ай бұрын
The solution to this case was literally handed to the police. My thoughts are with those who loved her.
@pamelasims8762
@pamelasims8762 4 ай бұрын
Thank God for Justice and for uncovering this horrible crime. Clearly he has killed before. Condolences to her family and friends 😢.
@ChubbyUnicorn
@ChubbyUnicorn 4 ай бұрын
Mary Kay had very good friends. Rip kind lady. 😢
@lynnc5252
@lynnc5252 4 ай бұрын
My God you just never know when you're being hunted.
@Christina-xp9ys
@Christina-xp9ys 4 ай бұрын
Finally justice was served!
@momtrips6783
@momtrips6783 4 ай бұрын
not entirely, but as much as could be served under the circumstances
@texastornado1195
@texastornado1195 4 ай бұрын
"I just snapped " if those words coming from someone that says them with no remorse doesn't make you realize how important it is to carry protection on you at all times, nothing will. Her guard was down, this man was nothing more than a mere occasional acquaintance. The world we live in today is far from the world we grew up in.
@MUFC1933
@MUFC1933 4 ай бұрын
3:11 Yeah? How many of these have we watched where the killer not only helps with the search but actively participates in news pleas and everything.
@cappy2282
@cappy2282 4 ай бұрын
I feel bad for the woman, her family, the guys dad AND the ladies two cats
@seekingfitnesstipsandlaugh2126
@seekingfitnesstipsandlaugh2126 4 ай бұрын
Poor woman. I feel for her family. The scary thing to me is he looked ok (in the picture) guess you never know. He tried to blame it her and his ex SMH
@astar10146
@astar10146 4 ай бұрын
He slipped up @ when he said i never even cut myself over there ....when he stated he never been over their just looked inn.
@sandeibrahim1753
@sandeibrahim1753 4 ай бұрын
They walk among us
@Mt-ze3xe
@Mt-ze3xe 4 ай бұрын
Bro did a jail speedrun
@suzannenichols6900
@suzannenichols6900 4 ай бұрын
What does that mean?
@micke123cool
@micke123cool 4 ай бұрын
@@suzannenichols6900It means brother attempted to get sent into prison as fast as he possibly could
@wesleywarsmith1113
@wesleywarsmith1113 4 ай бұрын
That doesn't make sense. He spent how long lying?
@frankharper3512
@frankharper3512 4 ай бұрын
As bad as this case doesn't sit right in my stomach It also doesn't sit right that you had to click bait and put blood on the sheets. That's just downright low man...
@gimblegiil
@gimblegiil 4 ай бұрын
why do these things always seem to happen in Ohio? Ohioans, you ok?
@sonquatsch8585
@sonquatsch8585 4 ай бұрын
and florida.
@PalmBeachFlorida24
@PalmBeachFlorida24 4 ай бұрын
Florida here, we have our share of unaliving handymen. Recently, up in Jensen Beach (look up Cynthia Cole). According to court documents, Demich hid inside Cole's shower while waiting for her to return home. Records show he attacked her, drowned her inside her bathtub and then proceeded to se*ually ab*se her before burying her inside the septic tank. Sheriff William Snyder said investigators secured surveillance video that showed Demich walking away from Cole's car on the night she disappeared. The sheriff said Cole and Demich had known each other for years.
@MarkSterrett
@MarkSterrett 4 ай бұрын
This guy should be named, Sir Scratch A Lot.
@PongoDaMan
@PongoDaMan 4 ай бұрын
im sorry, but did he just tweak his nipples while talking to the cop??? 8:05 im fucking dead
@ASAPLegal
@ASAPLegal 4 ай бұрын
I don't think she said anything to set him off. I think her wanted to rape her because he was alone with a woman, He had no self-control and maybe he thought he could sell her belongings later. These guys can't take responsibility for their actions like a man they always have to blame the victims.
@trevormiles5852
@trevormiles5852 4 ай бұрын
I am such a high powered executive , my days run together. Can you imagine how the dad feels. Poor lady she just wanted to enjoy day.
@dottyfulcrum
@dottyfulcrum 4 ай бұрын
Just to be clear: I can't remember what I did 2 days ago either. I lose track of the days---especially the NAMES of the DAYS---all the time. It is possible that he didn't remember what day he murdered Katie.
@jimmyjimjim4879
@jimmyjimjim4879 2 ай бұрын
True, me neither. But you'd remember the short days before and after murdering someone though wouldn't you
@DumbleDore69
@DumbleDore69 4 ай бұрын
He's watched these type of channels for sure ... he's trying his hardest not to give stuff away through his body language and reactions... love it when the detectives start asking a question and you can see him go "oh shoot better look interested & perplexed" 🤣
@Ophanim_Cherub1.4
@Ophanim_Cherub1.4 4 ай бұрын
5:45 😮 that is so crazy. That poor woman 😢
@hellboy6661234
@hellboy6661234 4 ай бұрын
weed had nothing to do with this
@justkidding9158
@justkidding9158 4 ай бұрын
How disgusting
@seandawn420
@seandawn420 4 ай бұрын
Great video! Small pain point, participating openly and freely in a search for the missing person shouldn't immediately exonerate any party, many cases where the perpetrador actively assists as they assume it will make them look innocent e.g. Chris Watts
@hankpikuni7024
@hankpikuni7024 4 ай бұрын
Why offer a plea deal with that solid evidence.
@Mike-es2yg
@Mike-es2yg Ай бұрын
Avoids a trial and he has a life sentence with no parole?
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