Oh, please. Any time there is a lot of money on the line, someone will be angling for it. I don't care if it's Wall Street, or politics, or "the world of poker". There's a reason why the casinos spend so much money on security, looking for cheats - and it's not because they like throwing money away. The cheats are always there.

nah just a whiner

Yeah, but then he shook his hand. I would have told him to GTFO instead of shaking his hand!

"slow roll"

not according to EXPOSE 1657, on this comment section. Postle is the god everyone thought he was !

@@user-gx2yy1df6f you sound like one of those desperate simps who follows the blonde geek hoping she might give you some attention one day

Can't be that dumb bro ... he's a cheat . You obviously don't play

😂😂

The investigations were done by the gaming commission, but go off ig.

​@@jajo7 This is why all modern and legit live streams have a 2-5 minute delay. Having a zero delay live stream combined with typical Microsoft-level security is asking to get hacked. This is as an ex-IT professional who also did systems hardening. Finding laughably insecure systems was commonplace in my work. Having a person on the inside helping would make it trivial, but he also might have simply cracked their pitiful security or have a friend in one of the rooms close enough to the broadcast room/equipment to also hack into it via numerous methods or a simple scanner if they are using something like old CRT displays or an old non-shielded mixing board for the audio stream. With the right equipment you can get a live stream of the commentary and then getting the information back to him is also trivial if he's allowed to use a cell phone or the room isn't RF shielded to make texts and so on impossible. So, did he cheat? Yes. But did the casino make it trivial for him to do so due to their failure to understand how to harden their systems? Yes as well. EDIT - yes, I do live in Las Vegas and the major tournaments go through quite a few steps to keep their games secure. This could only happen at some third-rate place in another state.

For example....?

It's not nearly as big an issue unless the game is live streamed and all the hole cards are known by the producers and can be fed to a player. Without the hole cards you could still be referencing a solver but the edge that gives is not nearly as large. And it would also require input from someone else. Way more of a problem in online games.

And who do you think was sending him the hole cards? 🤔

The winrate statistics are a mathematical proof that can be used in court, just like fingerprints even if its not 100% sure.

@@emmanuelhoule8070 And can be backed by more circumstantial evidence, like him never being able to explain his thought process, like many other pros can, when watching a hand back or attributing it to just drinking more wine that night.

Some allow you to use your phone as long as you're not in the hand. That's Caesar's Palace anyway.

Streams on delay

They did catch him. Lmfao

@@brock83995 Everybody knows he cheated, but they didn't prove it by catching him red handed. If they had caught him he'd be in the pokey right now.

He pretty much was caught. Anyone that understands poker knows Postle is a cheater. Unfortunately explaining that to a court is very difficult.

Would have been nice to call him out while he was doing it and ask him to show his phone

Your investigation and subsequent report was complete and total “BS”!, There is not one single shred of evidence, yet your demeanor and comments slandered the man as a cheat! This is total grandstanding by you. As a result I am unsubscribing from your channel and encourage all poker fans to do likewise!

He almost certainly had real time access to his opponent's hole cards, making it easier for him to bluff them off or make what looks like a hero call. His phone during this time was in his lap, and whenever he made one of these moves, it was always after staring into his lap for a good amount of time. When asked about his thought process during said hands, he never has any recollection of what he was thinking at the time, and just attributes it to drinking more wine that night.

Except it wasn't every time as the video says. Sometime he did, sometimes he didn't. Sometimes he had his phone on the table in plain view. A statistical anomaly isn't a statistical impossibility. This guys shady but there isn't a shred of proof in this video. @@LucianDevine

@@leonguy-miller1608 More like most times he did, very rarely he didn't. His river play was perfect though. He never got bluffed off the best hand, no matter how marginal that hand was or how big the bluff was. The only time he ever lost on the river with phone in lap was when an opponent hero called him when he made a huge bluff in one of those key times. The biggest damning factor though, even if you ignore the hands, is what he did when he got called out. He didn't play without the hat or with his phone on the table. He retreated from the public eye like all cheaters do.

Seems you have a probability of cheating with zero proof. Guess it's why the lawsuit was thrown out.

How is using his phone cheating?? you think someone is sending codes or something ?? stop it lmao. anyways, I'm not convinced this guy is cheating, it looked like legit folds, he probably doesn't play anymore because he gets harassed about "cheating" all the time 🤣🤣

I live near there too, strange aint it?

This story is years old now lol

I lived in Rancho Cordova for a couple of years when I worked there. Hated it. Casino was the only good part about it. You know what's great about California? All the weed! You know what sucks about California? Pretty much everything else.

they are NEVER live streamed they are always delayed

@magnumballistics yea they are always delayed, but that still doesn't stop a corrupt production crew member from giving information to a player in real time which am assuming happened in this case study

he wasn't getting the opponent cards from the live stream. It was suspected that he had somebody in the stream room (who had live access), or access to the RFID infrastructure.

@@TheBliepbliep perhaps, but getting a cut of the I'll gotten winnings isn't that a small amount compared to a card rooms honest income?

@@TUMARK2 bingo. The casino and all employees were cleared. The accused attorney cleared all of them. They don’t talk about that though.

And that's the way it happen ) then fed to Mike

@POKERMIKE-1624 the video never explained that part which I thought was stupid, dumb ass video

@@POKERMIKE-1624 so why isn't that producer from the van listed on the court documents? did he vanish or something 🤣

@steve833333 production van ? Or somewhere who noes mabey he payed someone off for that not to happen money can bye many things he was fed the hole cards though this is how bright Mike is to make people think he wasn't cheating he was saying he made 2 million online at ultimate bet poker he was Russell Hamiltons friend best buddies and Russell stole 20 million bye seeing hole cards no kidding then the casino makes pay outs to people from what mike stole so if he wasn't cheating the casino doesn't pay that out Justin Kelly was investigated he knew mike postle was his man his own words you can find that on one of Joeys videos he did as matter a fact Justin said mike will fold Joey says how can he say that following online poker sites much polk did stuff also on this to me polk and Joey are phonys because they support a site where Justin Kelly working at this time or just after and still does same room who has stolen money from players but what you gonna do I have nothing to gain with what I say that is all available out there you can get but I have everything possible to lose and I don't care anymore my dreams are over in the tolit but my game isn't polk lmao needs the use of a program to use online pathetic and his buddy Garrett them to are good for one another for their ignorance of Garrett saying he was cheated lmao cry baby youtube this pulled as well? Oh ya, money maker is blind or chose to be he had Ace King with someone else who were both re raising forever an mike calling each rase then every was all in prefop mike had 5 3 off even Joey said that's not right no kidding go find that youtube video as well where is mike theses days I mean that good he should be making 1000s 100k millions at every level every casino well he ant he bump his head and end up with amnesia and forgot how to ? Lmao 🤣

@@steve833333 If the setup is not properly secured, given when this happened ( Windows 7 era ), hacking into the feed before it went out to the public is a very real possibility. Once you can do this, getting information back to him from a partner (inside or otherwise) could be done in many ways. But nobody was looking at the employees of the casino too closely. Even if they suspected, they would say nothing due to potential lawsuits and loss of revenue.

So correct. That guy is a straight 🤡

I've seen that covered in other videos, he got the password for the computer the announcers were using and he saw what they saw.

@@petepal55stop lying dude. Zero proof of that anywhere.

As far as hand rankings. There is no difference.

@@TurboShred13two people can have trips only one person can have a set

@@justonejlkingset over set?

​@@johnpham54you know what he means dude. And if you don't, who's really the dumb one?

Both imaginary. Only three-of-kind Lol

U obv lived under a stone of the didn't see all recaps on other channels 😢

It's how he acted during the hand, and this one is used to support the more egregious hands. He didn't try to bluff her, like we see him do often when they have him beat but not by this much, and he was only going to be drawing to a chopped pot in this case. His river play was literally perfect, but he can never recall his thought process when watching hands back in an interview. He always attributes huge bluffs or hero calls to drinking more wine that night. The only time he ever lost on the river was when he bluffed big when the opponent had a weak hand that could only beat a bluff, and they hero called him. So he's displaying skill and intuition that he didn't have before, and when confronted, he made no attempt to defend himself by playing without the hat or the phone back on the table, which most innocent people would have done to prove that they were that good. He fled from the public eye like caught cheaters do.

Dont forget the 88 vs TT full house, in the 994T8 board when he checked the river for obvious raise to milk him and then hmm decided its best to just call he might obviously have 94?, 9T?, TT? better play it save with my extremely strong full house and just check and call.. Plus EVERYTHING ELSE, If you followed Ingram's channel when this was going on, it was mind boggling!

@@67steinip I would have folded also !

He had a streak for a full summer, it wasn't just a few times. He played for years prior to the streak and he was mediocre at best. Then he begins to stare at his crotch and he becomes the best poker player in world history over night. Now he is back to being mediocre again at other poker tables. Hmm. Almost as if he was cheating. No that couldn't be, right.

It's not just a phone. It has the ability to receive hacked signals and information meant for someone else.

That's quite the distinction without a difference. Three of a kind is three of a kind, regardless of its configuration of hole cards and board.

@@dustinglasier6417 It makes a difference when explaining hands to people because obviously a set is much more hidden than trips and therefore is generally easier to extract value from. it is nitpicky? yes.

@@peterkay3686 Besides, trips only means three of a kind, nothing more, nothing less. All sets are trips, but not all trips are sets kinda deal. If someone understands the two terms mean three of a kind, you can still convey that same information. The distinction is without a practical difference and not worth arguing about. Source: I am a pedant, I should know

It was nothing to do with the fact the stream was live, they put it out on a delay anyway. It was the fact Stones collaborated with him, there was even a time when they changed the graphic for his cards, because he had just gone all in on 9 high against 8 high. They realised how unlikely this was, so quickly changed the graphics to read Jack Ten. If you watch that hand, you can hear in the commentators voices, they knew something weird was up.

Have you actually watched anything about this postle incident besides this video? Bart Hanson had a decent video showing some of the hands, some of them are absurd.

Really appreciate this. Thanks for watching!

Power and money is this world will walk over many and anyone that answer your question?

He had live stream from Trojan on the setup. The commentary both set up room was not properly secured. Anyone could walk in to the room.

@@agentcrypto7741 the internet clowns will believe any lie an influencer spreads. Or one coming from a pathological liar.

@@agentcrypto7741wrong. Stop lying. None of this is true

Oh shit. For real? Is that just work of mouth or you got a source? Cause if it's true, fuck that stream

@@julee5071 I play poker daily and all across the poker rooms in Los Angeles we all discussed the same thing because we all have known about it and he is a very very shady character. He had a situation that happened in a poker room called ocean's Eleven near San Diego and he had another situation of accusation of cheating in Hawaiian gardens but it never went reported because it was resolved, but he is an extremely shady character in the poker world and he should definitely not be behind any type of camera that shows whole cards

Close but not exactly. He’s a known scammer, but as far as I know his poker cheating record is clean.

@@krishmohinani2777 scammer? How so? Like keeping money from people who stake him?

Uh no they all know exactly how he was cheating lmao he had a live feed from the stream on his phone or was being texted the cards by someone in the control booth.

You need secure hardware, no air gaps or wifi in the network, ( As well as a separate network ), RF shielding on all devices and on and on.. All it takes is a way to get the audio or video feed from the commentators or have someone on the inside able to get a signal out and you're done. As for how, all he needs to be fed is some sort of yes/no signal if a third party is watching everyone's hands.

Really? Did you ever play with him?

​@@PokerBoomYT Never did. I did run into a few of the other regulars from the Stones Live games in tourneys from time to time, but I have no recollection of Postle other than on the live stream itself.

Yes but that was resolved. Most players got their money back when stars bought full tilt.

Doing great Jamal... thank you for being here!

There is a reason he didn't do this in Vegas. Maybe you end up banned, maybe you end up missing. Cheating is very rare and security is extremely high. But in a second-rate casino in California? It seems as if he found a way to exploit their security.

What's our equity against a strong draw or the nuts, tho? Way over 35%, I can tell you that much. Top set is a snap call, so slow roll is legit, imo.

He seemed to be certain though, he seemed to have done it just to piss off Mike for everything he did..

It's amazing. They say you need to be unpredictable to win at poker, but when someone acts in a way that is not in accordance with "established poker theory" then they're accused of cheating.

​@@puckerings The problem wasn't that he was playing unpredictable, that problem was that he would play conventional with some reasonable variance when the game wasn't streamed, but he would play unconventional (and nearly perfect) when the game was streamed. If the game was streamed he would have an incredibly wide range regardless of position. If he was ahead he would never fold. If his opponent had a weak hand he would barrel into the pot. If his opponent was strong he would fold his cards when normal players would keep playing. There are at least two statistical outliers that would only happen during these live streamed games. The first was that he would only raise or fold on the river. The second is that he only ever lost hands in the live streamed games when he tried to bluff his opponents off of weak hands but they somehow managed to call. There's probably more, such as frequency of seeing a flop, range in various positions, or whatever else, but those two statics are way out of line. But only when live streaming games.

@@TheGerrok And when he got called out, he made no attempt to play without the hat or put his phone back on the table, and thus defend his reputation by proving that he really was that good. He fled from the public eye like caught cheaters do.

Don Ward: Well, it happened so quick, 3 guys won; I didn't have a chance... Ace Rothstein: [interrupts] You didn't see the scam? You didn't see what was going on? Don Ward: Well, there's no way to determine that... Ace Rothstein: Yes there is! An infallible way, they won! Don Ward: Well, it's a casino! People gotta win sometimes. Ace Rothstein: [grows more irritated] Ward, you're pissing me off.

@@TheGerrok Definite man in the middle shenanigans going on. The question is who that person was.

Tell us, what's the difference?

I mean he's still got top pair with a decent kicker and an inside straight draw. So he has a lot of equity against straight draws and flush draws in addition to being a bluff-catcher. Yeah, he's drawing to 3 outs against a set and is behind 2 pair, but that's basically always the case in hands like this. This isn't one of the most egregious hands, but it's one of the hands that further supports those hands, because he didn't try to bluff her either, which we also saw him do often. He knew he couldn't bluff her off her straight and was only going to be drawing to a chopped pot.

the strange thing is that he folded that hand when he raised many hands when he was weaker he was too perfect it was so obvious. then looking at his phone was strange then when he didnt look at his phone he had a bulge in his hat that was probably bone conducting tech.

Yea obviously one hand doesn't tell the whole story. When you view dozens of his hands, a clear picture takes form.

Well the production staff was in on it

@@kristianstenerson2608 I personally think it was them having terrible security and not admitting that they were being hacked in real time. It would be very easy back when this was happening to go to local events and book a room next to the broadcast room or find a place where scanning equipment might find stray RF signals or an insecure port/bad password on the router/etc. All you need is one success at a second-rate casino and then you're in. And they are 99% of the time no wiser, as using a passive scanner won't be detected. It literally could be as simple as them using a wifi router somewhere in the chain and the password being brute-forced in a few minutes. Or something similar with a bluetooth mic/headset. As for myself, I used to do IT work and part of that was systems hardening. The number of ways people would or could hack into a data stream without proper security in place would boggle most normal people's minds ( and why using public wifi is a no-no - use your data plan instead, trust me ). Open ports or jacks, bad passwords, not hiding wifi and bluetooth AP names, firewall not set up correctly (or using a known insecure device/brand), and on and on.. In addition to social engineering or covertly placing usb devices and so on. All it takes is someone pluging into or successfully scanning your network with the right device and you are in real trouble.

Did you watch the video? lol. He played on a livestream, and had access to other players cards because a stream production member helped him see them on his phone.

@piFFD513 the video never explained that part.

He didn’t. It’s all fabricated to make it seem like he did.

@@ericj3331 3:40

Look up a video going over his suspicious hands. Many pros have gone over it and all said the same thing. Veronica, Jeff boski, doug polk, Joe Ingram, and a few others all have covered his historic run on those live streams. The thing people need to remember is that poker has variance. I could play the best player in the world, and, sure, they’d probably take my lunch money, but theoretically, I could get stronger hands that make it easier to play against him. But the thing with poker, there’s a lot of decision making. People make wrong decisions all the time. The weird thing with Mike postle is that he NEVER made an incorrect play. Even if he had KQ and someone had AK and they both flopped a pair of kings, Mike would find a way to fold his hand (even though his hand would win on many runouts) and lose as little money possible. It’s not so much the hands he won, but the hands he folded that made him look very suspicious. The only time he would play a hand where someone would have a better hand than him was if someone else ALSO had that same hand, making it more likely that Mike would catch a card he needed, rather than the 2 players who have him crushed (in reference to the 54o hand, which I think is what really pushed Veronica into investigating this) props to Veronica by the way, she did the whole community a huge favor.

Did u watch the vid?

@@mezzodana lol I was gonna also ask them that but I tried being polite. For real tho 🤣

​@mezzodana lol, I watched the video, it really doesn't explain how he cheated, just speculation about cell phone and hat signals. I look at my phone from time to time. So someone on the production crew who could see the cards was relaying the info to him?

@@mezzodana yeah, did you? Did you comprehend it? What was proven? He looked at his hat and phone? Bro, we all look at our phone. So what. How is that proven in court of law?

It's on the casino to force that, but if they were helping him, why would they force that? If he was innocent, then why didn't he play without the hat or put the phone back on the table? Why retreat from the public eye like all caught cheaters do if he was truly innocent?

The casino settled with the victims . Where's his defamation lawsuit? You won't see any . Looking at his lap constantly. Naive people.

Its not a streak, its an irregular pattern based on math. The pattern of play suggest an impossible increase in the amount of times the player makes a correct call, even in situations where the right call seems very wrong without knowledge of the entire tables hands. Its just not easy to translate that on a court room.

@@rickp46 i did not hear impossible. I heard “improbable”. Those are two very different things. One is absolute where the other has a greater than 0 percent chance of occurring even at random. Again, not suggesting he did not cheat. I would just never say I caught someone cheating absent either a confession or catching the actual mode of cheating. I would say that based on a preponderance of evidence, I believe someone cheated. Semantics, but words are important.

100% Right...No proof, just a bunch of sore losers.

@@stonedcommander And rather than prove them wrong by playing without the hat or with the phone on the table he tried to disappear from the public eye. Somebody who wasn't cheating but was doing all that legit would have gone to such lengths to prove it. So in addition to the math, his own actions after being called out all but confirm it.

@@NOLA-vv3szyour deluded

Probably because the dealer wore a headset to communicate with production and the dealer was telling the players. Gosh you people are dumb.

Boski is a 🤡

Exactly. There is NO real evidence

That's what I wanted to know!

or covertly put the real stream on a ten minute delay and fed incorrrect hole card data to the system he was suspected of compromising.

He lost a ton. Hundreds and hundreds of hands. The influencers just refused to show those. Only a dozen or so of the 8000 hands he played total where he folded 60% of them. The info is out there for the non lazy. Google Postle not making all the right moves. They only show what they want you to see. 🪄

Yup, but like many cheaters, he got greedy and cocky.

@@LucianDevine that’s what they all say. But nothing that was put out there originally was true. Makes ya wonder if there’s not way more to the story

@@expose1657 There's almost certainly more to the story, but we'll sadly never know. Whoever helped him won't come forward, and you can bet that the settlements people got from Stones came with an NDA or something similar.

Then why didn't he defend his reputation by playing without the hat or put his phone back on the table. If he did that and continued to be dominant people might have believed him, but he fled from the public eye like all cheaters do.

Yup, his river play with the best hand was always perfect, and the only time he ever lost big was when he tried to bluff somebody off a marginal hand on the river and got hero called.

@@LucianDevine Or got it in with the best hand and got drawn out on.

@@bigheel2k I don't remember if he ever went all in before the River, but yeah if he did that was the only time he ever lost with the best hand in that situation.

Thanks dude! Appreciate you checking out the channel

People cheat Hold EM, Omaha, 7 card, you name it. Cards are very easy to cheat with if you know what you're doing. The Casinos do it as a matter of course.

"Hold 'Em is the most luck bucket, stupid version of a card game there is and I've been playing it for 50 years"

How many is in a set?

Because all the evidence was fabricated to begin with. If someone accused you of something you didn’t do, (1 in 8 found guilty are later proven innocent) ever heard of innocent until proven guilty? You can’t take the word of lying poker influencers hungry for attention. Jeezus get it together new generations.