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When a Surprise Backfires | Road to GM, Game 108

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Hanging Pawns

Hanging Pawns

Күн бұрын

I played something other than e4 for the first time in my life in this game. I faced a lower rated opponent so I chose the aggressive (but slightly dubious) Nimzo Larsen Attack.
2019 Lichtenrader Herbst, Berlin, Rd. 4, 10/15/2019, Bo. 38,
Stjepan Tomić (1910) vs Nguyen Phuc N., Nimzo Larsen
1. b3 e5 2. Bb2 Nc6 3. e3 Bc5 4. Qg4 Qf6
5. f4 d6 6. Qe2 Nge7 7. Nf3 Qg6 8. d4 exd4
9. exd4 Bb6 10. Na3 Bf5 11. O-O-O O-O-O 12. d5 Nb4
13. Qxe7 Rhe8 14. Qg5 Be3+ 15. Nd2 Bxc2 16. Qxg6 Bxg6
17. Bc3 Nxa2+ 18. Kb2 Nxc3 19. Kxc3 Bxf4 20. Bd3 Bxd3
21. Kxd3 Re3+ 22. Kc2 Re2 23. g3 Bxd2 24. Rxd2 Rde8
25. Rd1 a6 26. Nb1 Kd7 27. Nc3 R2e5 28. Rf1 f6
29. Rf4 Rh5 30. Ne4 Ree5 31. Rg4 Kd8 32. Nc3 Re7
33. Rf2 Ke8 34. Rd4 Kf7 35. Ne2 Rhe5 36. Rd2 f5
37. Nf4 g6 38. Ne2 Kg7 39. Nc3 Re3 40. Rf4 b5
41. Rd1 Re1 42. Rd2 R1e5 43. b4 Re1 44. Rff2 Kf7
45. Kb3 Ra1 46. Rfe2 Ke8 47. Ra2 Rxe2 48. Rxe2+ Kd7
49. Kc2 Rh1 50. Kd3 Rf1 51. Ra2 f4 52. Ke2 Rh1
53. Kf3 fxg3 54. hxg3 Rc1 55. Ra3 a5 56. Nxb5 axb4
57. Rb3 ½ - ½
In round 4, after having lost a much better, winning position in the previous round against a higher rated opponent, I faced a 400 points lower opponent. That in itself is a bad thing. Playing when you only stand to lose points if you don’t manage to win puts me under pressure. Despite being much stronger in theory, I struggle in these games psychologically.
I prepared for my opponent. I didn’t underestimate him. I prepared for a serious game. He had 1.5/3, and was low rated, so he must be good, I thought. He is a young player, and they tend to be underrated very often.
I decided to deviate from my normal 1. e4 for the first time in my life. This may sound strange, but it felt wrong to play something else:D It felt strange. I went for the Nimzo Larsen. My repertoire now consists of four different first moves for white, so for the first time I have the option to adjust to my opponent’s strength and style. I thought an aggressive, strange opening was perfect for this game. I was wrong.
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@SSA-X002
@SSA-X002 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Stjepan, my 2 cents here, when facing younger players or weaker ones it is dangerous to go into sharp positions, players at that level focus a lot in tactics, instead you should get a normal positional game, and outplay them in the middle game where you are much stronger. As other have mentioned your endgame technique is below your current strength, and one of the most important parts of it, as you know, it is not about knowing how to win an endgame position but how to convert a middle game position into a simplified winning position. Opening preparation is never enough, you have to take into account the player, the style, the weak areas etc etc. Other than that keep it up, have the same dream as you of becoming a title player someday and love your videos.
@threethrushes
@threethrushes 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your candour and honesty as always. The road to mastery of anything is long. One day you will probably realise that the goal is moot: it is in the struggle and the journey which gives meaning.
@ams_designer_18
@ams_designer_18 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful game and analysis Stefan, couldn't find a better material for nimzo-larsen than this (even better than GM lessons). Thank you so much for this.
@stopwritingthatreplyjohnat6638
@stopwritingthatreplyjohnat6638 4 жыл бұрын
I play the nimzo larsen in most of my games and it's a big jump to go from controlling the centree with 1.e4 to completely neglecting it with 1.b3
@botramduuze7188
@botramduuze7188 4 жыл бұрын
4:34 you can just play d4 and fork his bishop and knight
@HangingPawns
@HangingPawns 4 жыл бұрын
I was worried about Qh4+. I couldn't see what I do after that. the knight is great in the attack now.
@botramduuze7188
@botramduuze7188 4 жыл бұрын
@@HangingPawns d4 Qh4+ g3!?
@HangingPawns
@HangingPawns 4 жыл бұрын
@@botramduuze7188 d4 Qh4+ g3 Qe4!!
@botramduuze7188
@botramduuze7188 4 жыл бұрын
@@HangingPawns 6.d4 Qh4+ 7.Kd2! (Stockfish gives +2.71)
@HangingPawns
@HangingPawns 4 жыл бұрын
@@botramduuze7188 hmmm. I didn't consider Kd2. Thanks
@radoslavsheytanov1256
@radoslavsheytanov1256 4 жыл бұрын
Nimzowitsch-Larsen Atrack is not dubious. It is an excellent opening to avoid opening preparation and theory.
@lemmack
@lemmack 10 ай бұрын
I think he calls it slightly dubious because the engines say white has given up all advantage within the first few moves and it is an equal game. But these days pretty much every opening leads to an equal game with correct play from black so I don't think this is such a concern.
@TheChessViking
@TheChessViking 4 жыл бұрын
Aren't you trying to do too much? Your opening reperotire is 1.e4, 1.d4, 1.c4 and 1.b3? To my mind that will just lead to some half knowledge at best. 1.b3 is something you play if you just want to play chess. You look at a few lines perhaps after 1..e5 the mainlines and try to have some ideas. Otherwise it's mostly transpositions and deciding which systems to play. I hardly could believe my ears when I heard you "prepared" for 10 moves after 1.b3 e5 2.Bb2 Nc6?? What's the point other than wasted energy? And 3...Bc5 is obviously just complete crap, you get to play d4 and he has to move the bishop again, there is no idea connected to the move that makes any sense. You don't waste energy on crap like ...Nh6 or ...Bc5, you just play chess. If you can't play against 3rd or 4th rate moves with your own powers than you are simply in trouble. Don't try to become a parrot by trying to learn/memorize what do against everything, become a chess player and find out what to do yourself based on ideas/games and your own logical thinking.
@miomio7864
@miomio7864 4 жыл бұрын
You are a really good player! I'm 16 years old and play chess since 2 years and have a rating of 1400 and a bit thanks to your videos. I think next year I will have a rating of 1700 because I'm better than my rating says! Thanks :)
@plasticgodzilla1
@plasticgodzilla1 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Stjepan, I think it's a hilarious, that you didn't consider Bc6 on move three ;) To me, this is just a very natural move: Nf6 blocks a potential f-pawn break, a king-side fianchetto is less powerful because of the e-pawn, Nh6 is just wierd. So either d5 or Bc4 to keep the option of pawn d6 for stability. That would have been my thoughts if I faced this opening without any theoretical knowledge. But I guess things like that happen, please don't get me wrong. Thank you for all the work you put in your videos. They are the best.
@elkr79
@elkr79 4 жыл бұрын
As you play Caro-Kann, Slav defence and Alapin Sicilian for black you should consider 1. c3; I believe it would be more efficient secret weapon in your hands.
@Sarah-no7lv
@Sarah-no7lv 4 жыл бұрын
Your opponent played well.
@Ffaim7
@Ffaim7 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are great but please correct the static noise in the background, is a bit annoying
@thelegendaryphoenix6860
@thelegendaryphoenix6860 3 жыл бұрын
Perfectly binge watchable
@vincentpanhuysen9771
@vincentpanhuysen9771 4 жыл бұрын
I like your attempts to understand the openings and principles and play from that, but when playing a 1550 player and you are yourself a 1900 player, this doesn't matter too much in my opinion: mistakes and imperfect moves will be played by both sides anyway, so spending 30 minutes to get the opening right is not very clever.
@ym276
@ym276 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, he tries to play far too theoretically for a 1900 adult player, and then ends up blundering in unfamiliar positions
@MjrLeegInfidel
@MjrLeegInfidel 4 жыл бұрын
I'd have to echo the same. He often over thinks the early game. When you can just play simple developing moves and try for a complex middle game that you could out calculate a lesser opponent. This is such a common issue for stepjan and it hurts to see him continually do this.
@guycardwell2541
@guycardwell2541 4 жыл бұрын
Just playing the thematic nimzolarsen move Bb5 instead of thinking for half an hour for Qg4 would be a lot better.
@vincentpanhuysen9771
@vincentpanhuysen9771 4 жыл бұрын
@@ym276 Tactics, endgame and tactics. If you have those sharp, playing an inferior opening doesn't matter at all. Even GM's get away with it as long as their calculations in the middle game and end game are better.
@AlanTwoRings
@AlanTwoRings 4 жыл бұрын
Your mic was usually pretty good in the past, but in the last couple of videos there has been quite a distinct low pitch hum/buzzing sound. I'm no sound engineer, but I am aware that this can be caused by grounding issues. Check that all the connections are tight and if it persists, see if there is a difference between having the laptop plugged into mains power or not, and try different outlet points in your house to see if it is an issue with the grounding on a particular circuit! It could also be due to software settings, so you could try tweaking your audio settings. Perhaps other commenters might have some better ideas...
@BaeBox
@BaeBox 4 жыл бұрын
hey, since a couple videos I notice there is some humming (microphone noise), is the microphone near any electrical wires, closer to your laptop, etc? New laptop/soundcard? you could also try reversing polarity(?) of your laptops power supply, so just putting the power plug in the other way round (depends on the power supply used and how electric wiring works in croatia, but it does the trick sometimes where I come from..)
@HangingPawns
@HangingPawns 4 жыл бұрын
Hey. Thanks. I saw some more comments. I think it was the grounding as someone pointed out. I have recorded a new video and I think it's fine now. It will be up in 15 minutes or so. Can you let me know if it's fixed?;)
@BaeBox
@BaeBox 4 жыл бұрын
@@HangingPawns yes I checked it out, no humming anymore. :)
@spd-kv6sd
@spd-kv6sd 4 жыл бұрын
I could suggest you to try playing the Nf3 as first move. Basically it's very flexible and it can transpose into different positions you can get in ypur comfort zone from. I use it at times, even used the King's Indian Attack as a surprise at times.
@rpd350
@rpd350 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting game and analysis, thank you! Tough to get such a rare move, 3...Bc5 so early in your new repertoire, 1.b3 Larsen opening, but I felt you over analysed it and it seemed to shake you and then it seems to me this adversely affected the rest of your game! I look forward to watching the rest of your tournament games & goodluck with future games in your new opening repertoire.. :-)
@ralf716
@ralf716 3 жыл бұрын
that was exactly my impression.
@S0CD0C
@S0CD0C 2 жыл бұрын
seems like the best way to play you is to leave the queen hanging and you won't notice. :)
@thelegendaryphoenix6860
@thelegendaryphoenix6860 3 жыл бұрын
Legend has it that when this video came out the channel name changed to hanging queens
@woshdndndj2103
@woshdndndj2103 10 ай бұрын
The Qg4 mistake is similar to winawer positions
@sowyerford8874
@sowyerford8874 4 жыл бұрын
Please make a Video of this nice Opening 👍
@aftermath4096
@aftermath4096 11 ай бұрын
14:07 Why not just Nh4 ? seems 10 times more natural and less risky than d5 EDIT : I just tested it, it is indeed the best move.
@eugenesamokysh530
@eugenesamokysh530 4 жыл бұрын
As Ben Finegold would say about this game - very suspicious. Speaking of the opening, are u sure it's a good idea to play this if during the game u had more than a couple of times when the only thing that kept u equal or better was bad play from your opponent? I understand that u want to have a "secret weapon" but that's just a bad opening that will not work even against slightly higher rated players. Let's look at some lines with Bd6. There are some other lines that give black a pleasant position but I believe that Bd6 is the most convincing. 1. b3 e5 2. Bb2 Nc6 3. e3 Nf6 4. Bb5 Bd6 5. Nf3 e4 Black is already better. 1. b3 e5 2. Bb2 Nc6 3. e3 Nf6 4. Bb5 Bd6 5. Ne2 Ne7 6. Ng3 c6 7. Be2 Bc7 8. O-O d5 Black is much better. Lines where white plays c4 are good for black as well. You can say that white just played bad in the lines that I have given and there are improvements and you would be right but check these with a database u will find a lot of games of players much stronger than u. 2400+. And just by making logical moves black gets at least equality while u have to memorize tons of the lines to know how to keep the game equal. I looked at this opening when I was working on my repertoire and I found that if black just knows his basic ideas he will get a nice center and a good attacking position which plays itself much more naturally then what white has to play. I know I am just a random dude on the internet who follows your channel but here is my advice - if u like positions after b3 Bb2 start playing Nf3 on move one. This way u are more likely to get positions close to Nimzo-Indian/Queen's-indian which is very convenient considering that u started to play those as black. Usually, u will be getting smth like this - 1. Nf3 d5 2. b3 c5 3. e3 Nc6 4. Bb5. Basically, u have a defense that u know but a tempo up. It is equal of course but your understanding of the positions that arise will help you to outplay your opponents and you will also significantly increase your understanding of these positions in general so it will be easier to play something similar with black too. At the same time, if your opponents will decide to avoid those positions u will just get a good version of the same b3 Bb2 opening. For example, 1. Nf3 d5 2. b3 Nf6 3. e3 c6 4. Bb2 - could as well come from your current opening prep 1. b3 d5 2. Bb2 Nf6 3. Nf3 c6 4. e3. And if your opponent does not want to allow you to play b3 hoping to take you out of the prep u have a variety of choices. For example, 1. Nf3 g6 2. e4 - we are in Modern now 1. Nf3 d6 2. e4 - welcome to Pirc or Philidor where playing white is much easier. 1. Nf3 e6 b3 -we are likely to transpose to our main positions and u also can play french with e4 if you feel like it. Anyways, what I am trying to say is that u should not pick opening that gives your opponents more choices than they usually have or play something where they can just play 20 logical moves without a deep prep while you have to remember tons of lines. This is not a good strategy. You have to try to keep as many options as u can and give your opponent as few as you can. In the end, isn't this the essence of chess?
@ses694
@ses694 3 жыл бұрын
Doing the NLA is more plausible with 1.Nf3 as it doesnt allow the 1.e5 response. Just need to be prepared against the indian defenses and the QGD aswell and its a fine first move
@MartinZanichelli
@MartinZanichelli 2 ай бұрын
Fischer played b3 all the Interzonal in 1970 that was the path to become Champion in 1972, so it is a very good opening played at master level. Larsen returned to it when he moved to Argentina.
@parlabaneisback
@parlabaneisback 4 жыл бұрын
32:13 'Bc5 has been played only twice in history....' There are 22 games with it in my database - it's the 7th most popular move (4. Bb5 is the most popular response).
@HangingPawns
@HangingPawns 4 жыл бұрын
I only use the lichess database, sorry if the info there is wrong. Which one are you using?
@milankotevski1663
@milankotevski1663 4 жыл бұрын
@@HangingPawns Chessbase database is the largest database available, with more than 9.100.000 games available, and is being uptaed on a regular basis, Lichess database is utter crap, in comparison ( the same goes for chess.com's opening explorer ).
@parlabaneisback
@parlabaneisback 4 жыл бұрын
@@HangingPawns Hi, I use a database I cobbled together from various online sources, and I use the weekly updates from TWIC (The Week in Chess) to try to keep it up to date. I use SCID as my database software, it's free and does pretty much all I need.
@yashgupta8734
@yashgupta8734 4 жыл бұрын
@@parlabaneisback Hey, is there any chance you can share your database with me,I would be highly grateful ,thanks!!
@Guitare_picking
@Guitare_picking 4 жыл бұрын
Why not playing 4. Bb5, with the idea of taking control of e5 and preparing f4 without the complication (in case of Qh4+ the f1 square is available for the king). It's something common in the English defense with black.
@Jtricampeon
@Jtricampeon 12 күн бұрын
Anyone knows how to face black when they play 1. B3 Nf6 and they they never play Nc6?
@VaSavoir2007
@VaSavoir2007 4 жыл бұрын
At 4:50, how does Nf6 not lose a pawn to Nxe5, dxe5, Bxe5?
@maniniescobar244
@maniniescobar244 4 жыл бұрын
If this were played online I may think the lower rated is cheating, so resiliant!
@whatfork
@whatfork 3 жыл бұрын
5 hrs for a draw, i would have fumed on my way home if i was the one playing black
@KeepChessSimple
@KeepChessSimple 4 жыл бұрын
What would happen if you replace all this studying and preparing openings time with studying the 9 Yusupov books?
@HangingPawns
@HangingPawns 4 жыл бұрын
That might be a good idea. I did read some of parts of some of them. I should go through all the books one by one.
@KeepChessSimple
@KeepChessSimple 4 жыл бұрын
Hanging Pawns I think there is nothing wrong with a narrow and predictable repertoire. Let’s say you play the Italian for years and years. If someone is going to prep on that the chance is big you know the line anyway because you are a specialist in the opening and faced almost every line. Then the worst thing that can happen you end up in an equal endgame where you have way more experience. So I think there is truth in building a solid repertoire and just stick to it. Only at the very high level prep becomes important.
@mareksicinski3726
@mareksicinski3726 4 жыл бұрын
Nimzo-Larsen Attack is dubious? Also 1. b3 is the less common variation of the Nimzo-Larsen attack, usually you start with the knight to f3, then b3- that was the variation played by Nimzowitsch and the more common one in general. But chess opening nomenclature is confusing and contradictory
@ses694
@ses694 3 жыл бұрын
Why is it uncommon among top players?
@MartinZanichelli
@MartinZanichelli 2 ай бұрын
Fischer played b3 all the Interzonal in 1970 that was the path to become Champion in 1972, so it is a very god opening played at master level. Larsen returned to it when he moved to Argentina.
@KW-vm5fc
@KW-vm5fc 4 жыл бұрын
Couple of questionable moves on your part. 1) Not trusting your opening theory and playing better moves after his Bc5 and 2) playing patzer moves like Qg4
@mohammedelsaidothman6802
@mohammedelsaidothman6802 4 жыл бұрын
Your awesome bro i already learn from u
@spiros_il
@spiros_il 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting game and analysis but I spotted a mistake. At 15:55, u say "If he takes on c2 now, I exhange Qs first"; but in fact after white plays Qxg6, black instead of capturing back the Q has a mate in two, with ...Be3+ (intermediate) and then ...Nxa2 mate!
@colinmurphy2214
@colinmurphy2214 4 жыл бұрын
Spiros Il that will not be mate, as blacks LSB will be undefended after the capture of blacks queen and the knights move to a2
@raffaeleinstilla5347
@raffaeleinstilla5347 4 жыл бұрын
As others nave already pointed out at 6.40 you miss an hanging queen...
@ciroamore2546
@ciroamore2546 4 жыл бұрын
He corrects that after a few seconds...
@raffaeleinstilla5347
@raffaeleinstilla5347 4 жыл бұрын
I respect stjepan and watch this channel regularly. The point is that i don't think that someone who doesn't see immediately (instinctively?) that a queen is hanging can actually become a gm. I am not an hater and i would like sincerely to be wrong, but as many studies demonstrate you need a very special forma mentis to access the top tier in chess. Stjepan is an excellent scholar and a good evolving player, but i doubt he can bevome a gm. Maybe fm. But then, it's ok to aim at the top, if it doesn't eventually become an obsession.
@threethrushes
@threethrushes 4 жыл бұрын
@@raffaeleinstilla5347 I think the road to GM is very, very long, and exponentially difficult. I think it will take him at least a 15 years of sustained and full-time consistent effort to get to GM. There are FMs who beat GMs who are not GMs, and have been FMs for over 10 years.
@raffaeleinstilla5347
@raffaeleinstilla5347 4 жыл бұрын
Gerhard, in modern chess history less than 20 players have become gms after the age of 43, so if he plans to reach the goal in 15 years he would be a statistic anomaly (which i sincerely wish him, but is very unlikely). Anyway, he states that he wants to become gm in 5 years or so, which is unattainable, i think, since as you said progression difficulty is esponential and he seems stck around 1900, which is the level of a good amateur. Frankly, he looks like a very determined guy and a diligent scholar in the opening phase, but in my opinion he lacks the extraordinary tactical vision and pattern recognition skills needed to reach the top level. Which is, according to every evidence, an innate (genetic) factor that moreover must be cultivated and developed at an early age exploiting brain plasticity etc. That said i woul really like to be proved wrong, because he is a great guy. We will see. Above all i hope for him that chess does not become an obsession. Wouldn't be the first time.
@threethrushes
@threethrushes 4 жыл бұрын
@@raffaeleinstilla5347 When you put it like that, it is incredibly difficult and statistically improbable. I did think that his goal of GM in five years was utterly unrealistic. That said, the journey is what is important. Few people have come close to appreciating the true beauty of chess, and Stejpan will at least attain that, if not the GM title.
@shodasellman5139
@shodasellman5139 4 жыл бұрын
What is the ideas of playing nimzo larsen!
@sleepy314
@sleepy314 4 жыл бұрын
FYI audio has a hum that makes me not able to listen. I'll check back for next one.
@tomte6846
@tomte6846 4 жыл бұрын
last vid also had the hum
@davidlerner1825
@davidlerner1825 4 жыл бұрын
16:49 I don’t see how you can win Black’s bishop, f.e: ...Bc5
@rossssss93
@rossssss93 4 жыл бұрын
the day that i spent 3 hours preparing a game against a 1500 elo player i close with chess XD i hope you are joking
@DarthCrustyYT
@DarthCrustyYT 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a 15 year old 800 OTB who only plays b3
@MartinZanichelli
@MartinZanichelli 2 ай бұрын
Fischer played b3 all the Interzonal in 1970 that was the path to become Champion in 1972, so it is a very good opening played at master level. Larsen returned to it when he moved to Argentina.
@botramduuze7188
@botramduuze7188 4 жыл бұрын
I played 1.b3 for a while but it doesn't have much sting.
@manana3615
@manana3615 4 жыл бұрын
Yo
@manana3615
@manana3615 4 жыл бұрын
Are u on lichess
@Huh67784
@Huh67784 3 жыл бұрын
Nh4 before d5 was a better move i think.
@jaza7613
@jaza7613 4 жыл бұрын
have you thought that in kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rZ6cm6mJp9nckYU.html 1. Rxc7 Rxa5 sacrificing the knight, 2.b5 Rc3+ 3.Kxd6 the b-pawn is very hard to stop. Your king and rook is very active also.
@manana3615
@manana3615 4 жыл бұрын
Plz give heart nice videos bro
@Sarah-no7lv
@Sarah-no7lv 4 жыл бұрын
@denyszahorskyy7177
@denyszahorskyy7177 6 ай бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rZ6cm6mJp9nckYU.html why dont you play d4? outdated comment but still
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