I bet they did it that way on purpose. Musicians of days past were ambitious and creative. Now you literally can't escape The 4 Chords and Pachelbel's Canon. Edit: Let me be a little more clear, I'm talking about mainstream musicians here. There is plenty of good original stuff going on outside the mainstream. Just because you like some song that abused those two tropes doesn't invalidate your personal opinions on music, stop being such crybabies.

@@KiraSlith you can recognize past talent without lying so blindly to spit on present talent, being non venomous is free

@@decepticonne Aww, did baby's favorite Justin Beiber album pop to mind? I'm telling the truth and you know it, mainstream music is dead and the lazy industry killed it.

@@KiraSlith then don't listen to "mainstream" music??!! I have dozens of songs from the past 2 years on my playlists that are way more complex and creative than most music you consider good. Whether creative/complex means good, not really, but don't be a twat just because you think new music is personally insulting you. So shut up and find your own music to listen to.

@@bentenboy13 Your Debug stats: Projecting = ✅ Self-aware=❌ Angry=✅

Oh yeah! Thanks for reminding me of that, that's so funny.

He found a loophole

I literally just watched this before I realised what this video was about

@@revolvingworld2676 on-brand for Bioshock

i still really want him to talk more about the Beach Boys though, they’re my favourite band!

"Just make sure you change a bit so it doesn't look like you copied it"

I always read Fink's problem as one of context: the man believed that he could become a massive success by copying works had had been a proven success in other timelines, but that success never seemed to catalyze for him. This is because, the way i see it, the game is arguing that those works were successful _because_ of an essential context unique to the particular times they found themselves in. Remove those peices from their context, and they wont resonate the same, no matter how much tinkering you do to make it more palatable.

@@BoomTheGuardian The value of art is in it's context. Without that context, art is just colors or sounds or words on a page. Context is where the meaning is, the thing people care about when they recognize it as art.

@@dashiellgillingham4579 I disagree because there are works we can call timeless. We don't need a context to appreciate the beauty of something. Sometimes it is necessary or helps, but sometimes there are works that regardless of culture or time can move almost everyone in some way

@@bradberkely7448 Perhaps in a few cases, but a lot of works people call "Timeless" are only so because the context they require is timeless, or at least outlasted the time the work is from. The poem Ozymandias isn't remembered for being the winner of an informal competition between writers or an ultra-short summary of an ancient king's achievements. It's remembered as a warning against hubris in the face of time, something that will never change. Other "Timeless" works are only so because they have gained new context to replace the old. The Mona Lisa isn't that impressive of a painting on its own. Most of its intrinsic value comes from being a rare painting by Da Vinci. Then it was stolen and that got the public interested. Now, most people don't even know that, it's simply a pop culture icon completely removed from anything it stood for or relied on originally. Sometimes the work doesn't even last but was simply so entwined with its context in its time that enough of it was dragged onwards to be somewhat recognizable. Few people know the stories of H.P. Lovecraft but his name remains synonymous with existential dread and terrors beyond comprehension. Frankenstein is the same; the story has been rewritten and adapted so many times in over 200 years that correcting people on which character is actually named Frankenstein became a meme in of itself. To be blunt: most art does not outlast its own time. Music preference shifts, artistic styles change, clothing evolves, hardware becomes stronger; every medium shifts and changes and will continue to shift and change. The works that are remembered beyond their time are the ones that carry a message that, in one form or another, outlasts the time as well.

I had no idea that was the same guy...

Thank you for the recommendation, they're outstanding and my new favourite thing

I didn't know it was the same guy, but it makes total sense

While Scott Bradlee did work on a number of piano and vocal arrangements for the game, this arrangement of God Only Knows was done by Clay Hine, a well respected barbershop arranger in his own right. You can actually buy this arrangement off him and learn it yourself!

Beat me too it! Yes it is!

As a music-illiterate... ...music theory is black magic.

@@slaughterround643 Even as someone with musical background (band throughout high school and college, multiple music theory classes) it's still black magic. It's the kind of magic that, once you learn how it works, gets even more mysterious

Braced myself for it immediately after hearing that section. It’s a cheesy change to make, but it’s just the right kind of cheese for the arrangement.

@@sentientblender That's exactly it, you put it in words!

Just tritone substitution, right? Usually results in smooth, chromatic basslines

Fink, you're a fraud. But God damn are you a good one.

He's the equivalent of the guy who actually puts in the work to re-write the paper he bought so that it won't show up as plagiarized in the checks. Just as much work as doing it yourself, but you don't have to work to be original, so you can feel like you're being cleverly lazy instead (and it takes people longer to catch you).

No, I think he copied the original as it was but these 4 suity boys just thought they'd put a barbery spin on it

When you make amazing understated art like this piece it's the hundreds of people that take it for granted that makes it all the more worthwhile :))

Now we know what happened to all the features they promised and didnt deliver in Bioshock Infinite.

@@HighDeafRadio god-tier comment, deserves more likes

I sure didnt walk on by. I had to stop and listen to the entire piece. When their barge floated off, I was like wait! Come back and do one more!

@@cmelton6528 same!

Exactly. If the people scrolling along are interested in this style of a capella music, look up "Barbershop Harmonic Society" (BHS) and go through a couple of their popular videos to get a feel for modern barbershop music. My personal favorite quartets are The Newfangled Four and Main Street.

TheOutrageousZ aren’t they everyone’s favorite? *Except for the judges*

I've heard there is connection between EarthBound and The Beach Boys, so there's that...

@@megaman13able iirc it was just 1 sample in a barely-musical ambient track near the end of the game (the first syllable of "Deirdre" in Cave of the Past)

@@paperfishstudios3144 what is "barely-musical" supposed to mean lol

@@decepticonne Imagine if what you're hearing is so sound like that it couldn't be written effectively with pitches and intervals. That would make it less "musical" from the perspective of a composer. I'd have to listen to the piece myself, but it's not an unthinkable concept. Edit: Just took a listen. Yes. I'd say that's exactly what Paperfish meant.

@@outlawscar3328 ha, so it's an appeal to academia then, gotcha

Hi Matth!

@@matthewchung5288 Sup Match

He would probably love Vocal Spectrum's cover of Good Vibrations

Piggy backing this comment... A Mighty Wind became Category 4 after kicking their bass. They are all singing / music judges in BHS. I was able to work with Category 4 at my district competition recently, they were all really good to work with. However, they officially broke up about 2 weeks ago, because they live really far apart. I encourage everyone to check them out on youtube, you can find everything on the channel "Barbershop Harmony Society".

Wasn't Clay Hine also in FRED

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you look maybe 170 cms max, whats wrong with that pilot?

lol, I read that and had to do a double take -- Christopher Guest made a movie titled A Mighty WInd that isn't about a barbershop quartet.

I came to the comment section to say the same. Clay makes some awesome arrangements. Clay told me that they just wanted arrangement from him and they were going to have "professional" singers do it. Ha! They used the demo recorded by A Mighty Wind.

Clay Hine was/is also a member of the Champion barbershop quartet FRED. They are known for the terrific singing and arrangements, but also their comedic skills. They once did a barbershop version of Eric Claptons "Cocaine" on Penn & Teller's variety show.

I get that reference.

Were is it from, may I ask?

@@desuMaKun correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that a bare naked ladies reference that in itself is a reference to Brian Wilson?

@@desuMaKun The B-Sharps episode of The Simpsons (George Harrison makes the comment about the B-Sharps singing on the roof of Moe's)

@@desuMaKun It's from a Simpsons episode called Homer's barbershop quartet. Despite being about a barbershop quartet , the episode is a Beatles spoof and it ends with Homer's band doing a reunion concert on a roof top and George Harrison driving by in his limo and saying "It's been done".

Who made this arrangement?

Wesley Hughes Scott Bradlee

Bioshock Infinite is astounding, couldn't recommend it enough

@@eligeo5246 Many thanks!

@@WeepingWillow1 Clay Hine made the barbershop arrangement. There are a few other comments talking about him, but he's in a group called category 4 and directs the Atlanta Vocal Project (which is the work I'm best familiar with.). He's very well known, and if recommend looking into his stuff.

UPS has nothing to do with this.

I may be wrong, but I believe that's a quartet called "Septimus Prime"

@@ttin0 UPS has more to do than you'd think... they're partially responsible for the continued defunding of the USPS (as well as the new postmaster general) and that affects everyonr

What the fuck... what made you start talking about UPS?

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I hope they feel better soon

@@showalk I laughed and I'm so upset about it

I've always wanted to do barbershop. I can't find anyone interested, though.

@@JeanDeaux666 I'm interested, but I highly doubt that something productive can result from this (not saying that it is impossible).

@@JeanDeaux666 I would suggest looking around in your area for a barbershop chorus. Most choruses have no issue with people dropping in on rehearsals and are pretty easy to join, assuming they're not a major competition-focused chorus. You can search for one here: members.barbershop.org/chapters/search

just a quick correction - although in a choral context it would be considered the tenor 1 line, barbershop parts are divided as tenor, lead, baritone, and bass. so you were technically just singing the tenor part :)

I thought you were a Melee content commentator only. What the heck.

Emm Bee Sea oh hey nice to see you here

You should definitely play Infinite! It’s the best game I’ve ever played. Amazing story, characters, character development, writing, voice acting, animation, gameplay, atmosphere, art style, can’t recommend it enough.

The real life quartet that was actually hired to perform it is even better. Check them out--they're called A Mighty Wind, and later renamed to Category 4.

I actually sang this with Clay a couple of years ago. I mean, I was terrible, but Clay was very happy to talk about how he was approached to do it and some neat stuff about dealing with the game studio

@@KevinBerstene That sounds amazing! Where did you end up meeting him?

That wasn't actually a theremin. It was a tannerin (also known as the electro-theremin because it was designed to be easier to control while sounding like a theremin). Theremins are completely "hands-off," while the tannerin is controlled with at least one knob. That said, I'm with you.

Ella Mae It’s too bad in retrospect, Pet Sounds ended up being the Beach Boys creative peak (Brian Wilson had a nervous breakdown recording Smile and struggled with mental illlness for two decades).

There's also the fact that The Beach Boys eventually got deep into drugs, and family issues, that it took away much of their potential in later years. Arguing between living members, and the band recently sold their catalogue to an Irving Azoff company last month.

I wonder if it's a regional difference, but I've never heard it called a swipe; the term I'm familiar with is "post".

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