When compounded IGNORANCE goes VIRAL | En Mirza, Sh Mustafa Sabri, Sh A Fattah A Ghuddah

When compounded IGNORANCE goes VIRAL | En Mirza, Sh Mustafa Sabri, Sh A Fattah A Ghuddah | IBR EP10

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This episode will focus on Engineer Mirza. Someone who has polarised the #Pakistani scene, having discredited the scholars as being notoriously unreliable and heavily biased- he claims to take things back to their original sources….
However, is all as it seems? Could it be so simple?
How did the scholars get it so wrong?
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Books discussed:
Book 1: Views on Womanhood: A Translation and Reading of Mustafa Sabri Efendi's (d. 1373/1954) Qawli fi 'l-Mar'a, by Mustafa Sabri (Author), Muzzammil Ahmad al-Nadwi (Translator), Junayd Greer (Translator)
Book 2: رسالة الألفة بين المسلمين ويليها رسالة في الإمامة عبد الفتاح ابو غدة
Chapters:
00:00:00 - Intro Clips
00:02:40 - Views on Womanhood by Mustafa Sabri
00:31:15 - Risalah by Sh Abdul Fattah Abu Ghuddah
00:55:02 - Engineer Mirza and his ignorance
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@imamzakariyaacademy 4 ай бұрын

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@mohammedkhaledhossain7374 26 күн бұрын

When is the new episode coming out? Been waiting😢

@GenerationSalaahudDeen 3 ай бұрын

As a former Madkhali Salafi staunch defender of the corrupt regimes in the Muslim countries for 20 years I love your podcast. Jzkl

@imamzakariyaacademy Ай бұрын

Appreciated

@AzizurRahman-zq7ex 4 ай бұрын

MashaAllah every time I listen to this shaykh I feel my IQ multipliying

@imamzakariyaacademy 4 ай бұрын

Correction - name is Abu Bakr Ghazipuri, not Ghaznawi Also The article mentioned in the podcast has been completed and is just being edited. Once it has been edited, we will share the link here and on the telegram channel insha'Allah

@skhan3855 4 ай бұрын

The refutation of Mirza should be posted as a separate vid on its own. If it's possible, this episode should be edited and reposted insha'Allah. I think it would be better to share in that format with those who may have been bedazzled by Engineer Sahib.

@khalillaher 4 ай бұрын

May Allah bless you both and increase you both in knowledge. Aameen

@imamzakariyaacademy 3 ай бұрын

Ameen. JazakAllah Khair for your support

@thej.i.3637 3 ай бұрын

He makes an excellent point at the 1 hour mark about local imams/ scholars.

@bodzhussain8776 4 ай бұрын

Jazakallah khair, finaly we are getting a proper response to Engineer Mirza in the English language, I hope this is message get across loud and clear to those just blind follow Mirza.

@ahmedb5738 4 ай бұрын

I concur with you brother. The only issue is, Mirza’s fanboys can’t see him do anything wrong so no matter what people will say, they’re entrenched to his views. He’s been exposed by so many scholars but his fans don’t want to admit to being wrong.

@bodzhussain8776 4 ай бұрын

@@ahmedb5738 very true unfortunately

@abdullahdaniyal114 3 ай бұрын

Moulana Moududi was called out by the same Madrassah system. But still Allah gave him respect. Wa'a to Izu Ma'an Ta'sha, Wa to Zili Ma'an Ta'sha.

@mkaau4585 3 ай бұрын

@@abdullahdaniyal114brother your Arabic transliteration is …. Let’s just say a bit off 😅 what’s the ‘ doing????

@mkaau4585 3 ай бұрын

And zili???

@muhammetyusufyagiz1073 4 ай бұрын

Always a pleasure, on a side note where can i get Ml Chaudhry's headcover ?

@FauziaChaudri 4 ай бұрын

Difference between scholarship and jokes like Ali Mirza

@Ajmal8 4 ай бұрын

Very insightful. Jzkk

@Abul_kutub 4 ай бұрын

ماشاء اللہ

@mahfuzkhan9466 3 ай бұрын

Excellent Podcast 👍🏼

@imamzakariyaacademy Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

@mohammedkhaledhossain7374 4 ай бұрын

This was THE best episode, Moulana was on fire😂. I hope this podcast does more episode like this, responding to abdur rahman hassan or asrar rashid and their lies on deoband. PLZ MAKE IT HAPPEN!

@mohammedkhaledhossain7374 4 ай бұрын

Deoband has been getting attacked alot now day and theres no english speaking alim whos responding the way molana zeeshan responds

@muhammedomer2064 4 ай бұрын

Sheikh Asrar Rashid is a brilliant scholar who's doing an excellent job. Agree his work except the part where he subtly takfirs ulema belonging to the deobend chain just because of biases.

@crashteamracingstudios 4 ай бұрын

❤❤❤

@FaizanKhan-ic2oi 4 ай бұрын

Where is the article moulana sahib mentioned in the podcast?

@imamzakariyaacademy 4 ай бұрын

The article mentioned in the podcast has been completed and is just being edited. Once it has been edited, we will share the link here and on the telegram channel insha'Allah

@muhammetyusufyagiz1073 4 ай бұрын

the last section was quite funny

@elprofesor8571 3 ай бұрын

Please provide the link to the podcast that's going to discuss about engineer fully.

@unkn0wnserv3r 3 ай бұрын

I'm not sure they are doing another podcast, but on the telegram channel linked, they've uploaded the English version of their article refuting him. Waiting for the Urdu version still

@GenerationSalaahudDeen 3 ай бұрын

Imam ibn Hazm was harsh at times and there’s many researches that show the major flaws in their Usool and Furoo. A lot of Salafis lean towards him him. But he was an amazing scholar non the less. RH.

@intazario 3 ай бұрын

Who is imam zakariyya? Kandhelvi? Can't see the last name anywhere on any of your channel.

@bodzhussain8776 3 ай бұрын

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zakariyya_Kandhlawi

@muhammedomer2064 4 ай бұрын

Sincere correction. You should have written Sheikh before Sheikh Mustafa Sabri or Effendi after his name. It would clearly differentiate ourselves from people who do not respect the ulama of the present and past.

@unkn0wnserv3r 4 ай бұрын

I think they changed the title now

@imamzakariyaacademy 4 ай бұрын

Amended. JazakAllah Khair

@ahmadjuwayni6256 4 ай бұрын

Sadly Mirza is a symptom of the ulama class in Pakistan. When people are fed up with their bickering and sectarianism and tashaddud of many of the Ulama they are then automatically (wrongly) attracted to people who criticises the Ulama... its a sad reality and anyone who lived in Pakistan knows this well. Mualana Tariq Jameel sahib has probably done the best job at balancing sectarianism and being a positive role model but even has not escaped the scathing criticisms of many of the Maulvi class...

@ahmadjuwayni6256 4 ай бұрын

Also the fact that deobandi and bareilvi hazrat can't bring themselves to criticise anything their akaabir said even when it is very clearly incorrect... this makes people lose trust and gravitate to people like Mirza.. A fair analysis would equally discuss the cause as well as the symptom..

@unkn0wnserv3r 4 ай бұрын

@@ahmadjuwayni6256I think you would find this podcast and their previous episodes address those concerns

@Ebn_hawwa 4 ай бұрын

@@ahmadjuwayni6256it seems you don't know the ikhtilaaf among the famous aslaaf and muhadiseen in the past. Ikhtilaaf has always been there but today everyone is so arrogant to understand the difference. Also chota mizra is totally another story, he is just a clever jahil clown and knows how to use Deen to make cash.

@khizargujjar2807 4 ай бұрын

Raza Saqib Mustafai - Moulana Ilyas Qadri Also Best

@tazboy1934 3 ай бұрын

Exactly my thought...many also tend to go follow the salafi dawah shaykh eventually...which is an exit toward traditionalism@@ahmadjuwayni6256

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

He doesn't mock they have mocked themselves.

@crashteamracingstudios 4 ай бұрын

Great response mate

@NymAM 4 ай бұрын

Quran 3:144, all Prophets before Muhammad (saw) have died Good luck I guess

@tazboy1934 3 ай бұрын

Issa as is alive ,some says hazrat khidr as is alive...

@khizargujjar2807 4 ай бұрын

Eng Mirza Is Most Wrong Person And He Is Very Coward He Rum From Debate on 26 November out of fear from Mufti Hanif Qureshi.

@tazboy1934 3 ай бұрын

I wouldn't say he is a proper ulema...he is just a student

@khizargujjar2807 3 ай бұрын

@@tazboy1934 Bur His Student Say

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

Research Papers are of different types including case series.

@crashteamracingstudios 4 ай бұрын

Learn what research is please, scanned copy of full books is not research

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

Engineer Ali is top 10 greatest asset of the Ummah today!

@crashteamracingstudios 4 ай бұрын

Great point, from a dude who doesn't know the difference between mutashibih and non qat'i😅

@Rajaiqbal07Raufa 4 ай бұрын

Yes hi is worng 😂😂😂 hanifa

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza is doiing a derp cleaning of the Ummah Alhumdullilah!

@ssajid40 3 ай бұрын

Derp

@A.--. 3 ай бұрын

@@ssajid40 LOL 😂....Deep

@bodzhussain8776 3 ай бұрын

Someone needs to donate an English dictionary to this, what does derp mean?

@muhammadhaazim 3 ай бұрын

@bodzhussain8776 leave him , these people are ignorant fools like their Guru Ghantal 😂

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

"Im not worried" sounds like a Freudian slip

@crashteamracingstudios 4 ай бұрын

Seeing you shows why we shouldn't be worried

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

REVIEW his videos please

@crashteamracingstudios 4 ай бұрын

Raf yadayn video was reviewed

@SyedAliAbbasBilgrami 4 ай бұрын

Which sect are you both from? Deobandi? Or Barelvi? 😂😂😂

@n.a.1397 4 ай бұрын

They're Sunni. Are you also a self confident engineer that can by-pass all imams and interpret all the hadith all by yourself? 😂

@SyedAliAbbasBilgrami 4 ай бұрын

@@n.a.1397 He doesn't interpret himself. He only quotes the Imams. People who can't speak Urdu are interpreting EMAM. Lol. Seriously! 🤣🤣🤣

@arfanr8228 4 ай бұрын

There’s a difference between speaking and understanding Urdu. Just like yourself will be able to understand English but not speak it fluently.

@abdulrashid3339 4 ай бұрын

@SyedAliAbbasBilgrami of he quotes others. He claimed, he is not babi. Then claimed to be Jan nasheen Imam Muslim. He said, some thing is in Nahjul balagha. It is not in nahjul balagha. He claimed rafaie yadain hadeeth in number books by name. One book does not even chapter on salah. He is lair. Lunatic jahil. Makes arabic words that do not exit such as dub. He made farsi word shorba. He is ghustakhi e Rasool SAW. He declared oral sex fine in islam. What undhay follower. You are , come and have debate. We show you how bigger jahil he is. He is fitna.

@abdulrashid3339 4 ай бұрын

@arfanr8228 What is your level of urdu, English or any other languages. What is knowledge of Islam or secular education. You want to debate? If drop me line with answers.

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

"one of the two?" LoL 🤣 thats a good way to give references LoL 🤣. Engineer will eat your limited knowledge up for breakfast brother.

@crashteamracingstudios 4 ай бұрын

Right, both books he cited are from the early Hadith books. He said it's in his article the reference. Yes, actual research which your baba doesn't know how to do 😂

@elprofesor8571 3 ай бұрын

Establish one point that he's a proponent of.

@muhammadhaazim 3 ай бұрын

Rafdhi spotted 😂

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

Research papers give only references they dont copy paste the entire book being referenced you bozo

@crashteamracingstudios 4 ай бұрын

He posted entire book

@fwildhan2106 3 ай бұрын

@@crashteamracingstudios 😂😂😂

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

The Madrassa Industrial Complex will never produce a trye scholar only Rabies and Priests.

@crashteamracingstudios 4 ай бұрын

Ah so the solution is follow an engineer who doesn't know Arabic. Right, noted

@tazboy1934 3 ай бұрын

@@crashteamracingstudios😂😂😂...his followers will say "damage have been done"

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

Research papers are used to give references. And you select the relavant parts to prove the point your ficused on not necessarily accepting the authors entire views...you two are like bozos

@crashteamracingstudios 4 ай бұрын

Learn what research is please, scanned copy of full books is not research

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

Not the white man.....the western court of law. There are brown and blacks in US courts so its not about color or race, its about mindset. You may be born in UK but you have mindset of Desi Mullahs.

@crashteamracingstudios 4 ай бұрын

Gora means white man. They destroyed your baba on every level, I know it hurts

@abdullahdaniyal114 3 ай бұрын

Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza is the successor of Moulana Moududi. Edit: Moulana Moududi was the Pakistani version of German Martin Luther (who called out the corrupt practices and wrong interpretations of Catholic Church).

@unkn0wnserv3r 3 ай бұрын

Molana Moududi knew Arabic, pretty sad state if Mirza is his successor.

@intazario 3 ай бұрын

Mawdudi didn't even know engineer. He was actually a mufassir and head of a movement. Engineer is only successor in few things in which he supports him. But he u can't use the word that way

@abdullahdaniyal114 3 ай бұрын

@@unkn0wnserv3r he is doing the same work which the Moulana Maududi did and faced accusations than Engineer.

@abdullahdaniyal114 3 ай бұрын

@@intazario Of course he didn't knew. I used successor in the sense that he is carrying his legacy (at least some parts of his legacy).

@unkn0wnserv3r 3 ай бұрын

@@abdullahdaniyal114 brother, I'm not sure if you are saying this as some sort of defence of Mirza, but some points in order. 1) Mawdudi, regardless of opposition, knew Arabic and had a good base in the Islamic sciences, Mirza is clueless in both. 2) Mawdudi formed a serious jamat which has made effort to better Pakistan, one can disagree with certain issues, but they do a lot of good. Mirza has began a firqah calling other ulama gustakh etc. 3) Mawdudi was criticized (rightly) for presenting narrations that show certain Sahaba in a negative light. The language that Mirza has used against Sahabah, such as saying he would not want anyone to name their child Mu'awiyah, this horrible language was not used by Mawdudi. So, no he's not Mawdudi's successor. Get your facts and history right. Otherwise, the podcast has highlighted numerous flaws of Mirza, if you have anything meaningful to add, please do.

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

Babay to shay koi nahi.

@crashteamracingstudios 4 ай бұрын

Great way to sign off. I think the podcasters can be justified in the comments with your comments 😂😂

@mkaau4585 3 ай бұрын

By babay ur referring to the engineer right?

@A.--. 3 ай бұрын

@@mkaau4585 engineer is the Baba of the babas who he exposed

@tazboy1934 3 ай бұрын

Do not mock or disrespect the awliyah

@unkn0wnserv3r 3 ай бұрын

@@A.--.brother why are still commenting when I have listed numerous specific points for you to check up. I thought you were critical thinkers? Remember the task to look up the first hadith of Kitab Salah, I gave you the Arabic and the hadith number (because you said you didn't know Arabic). I even gave you the number of the hadith from where Kitab Salah begins. As well as listing a host of Mirza errors. But you are still here make snide remarks, actually respond or go back to saying 'damage has been done' on Ali Mirza videos 😂😂

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

If you two are so confident to counter Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza's ounts then produce a video on his point rather than attacking him personally

@crashteamracingstudios 4 ай бұрын

Specific points were mentioned, please respond

@ssajid40 3 ай бұрын

Mirza exposed

@A.--. 3 ай бұрын

No points were mentioned just red hearings that are in his article linked below LoL. No product of Madrassa Industrial Complex could ever challenge Mirza.

@unkn0wnserv3r 3 ай бұрын

@@A.--.let me get this right, the article linked in the telegram channel by the channel has no specific points responding to Mirza?? The article links his videos and point by point responds. But let me lay down specific points here they mentioned and you respond 1) aqeedah is divided into qat'i and dhanni (Mirza is ignorant of this division) 2) Mirza doesn't know the differences between the types of tadlis. He attacks a Hadith of qatadah for being a mudallis and then himself a hadith with qatadah in it! 3) he doesn't know how many 'an hadith are of sufyan thawri in Bukhari, he claimed 10 when it's actually in the hundreds 4) he claims the hadith of Ibn Umar is the first hadith in every book of hadith in the chapter of Salah 😂 5) he weakens a hadith because sufyan thawri is a mudallis 😂, not aware of how the muhaddithin deal with sufyan thawri 6) he doesn't know Arabic, so when discussing a topic he is unaware to deal with proper scholarship because he's restricted to Urdu. Examples were provided in the podcast. Here you go, specific points. In the article on the telegram channel there are many more specific point with the scanned images from the book. Let's see if you will humble yourself now or carry on exposing yourself and Mirza

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

He has millions of subscribers + millions of students who each have millions of subscribers.

@fwildhan2106 3 ай бұрын

And none of these millions of people have opened the first page of kitaab ul salah in any hadith book😂

@A.--. 3 ай бұрын

@@fwildhan2106 they aren't like the mullahs who spend 5 of 7 years getting brainwashed then quickly run over the hadeeth book without contemplating and asking questions. Engineer Ali encourages questions unlike Madrassa Industrial Complex mullahs who will beat you for asking questions.

@unkn0wnserv3r 3 ай бұрын

@@A.--. So you skip all the pints refuting you, and choose to respond to something not said. Please explain his major blunder of how every hadith book in Kitab Salah starts with the hadith of Ibn Umar (rd) on raf' al-yadayn?? Critical thinking won't get you far if you don't know how to read the source texts :)

@A.--. 3 ай бұрын

@@unkn0wnserv3r post the hadeeth

@unkn0wnserv3r 3 ай бұрын

@@A.--. أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ كَانَ يَرْفَعُ يَدَيْهِ حَذْوَ مَنْكِبَيْهِ إِذَا افْتَتَحَ الصَّلَاةَ ، وَإِذَا كَبَّرَ لِلرُّكُوعِ ، وَإِذَا رَفَعَ رَأْسَهُ مِنْ الرُّكُوعِ رَفَعَهُمَا كَذَلِكَ أَيْضًا وَقَالَ سَمِعَ اللَّهُ لِمَنْ حَمِدَهُ رَبَّنَا وَلَكَ الْحَمْدُ ، وَكَانَ لَا يَفْعَلُ ذَلِكَ فِي السُّجُودِ

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

You don't do ijtihad in Mutashabihat according to verse 3:7. Even a layman like me knows that abd you graduates of Madrassa Industrial Complex dont?

@crashteamracingstudios 4 ай бұрын

What an idiot, mutashibih in the Quran one can't do ijtihad hai. He said non-qat'i. 😂😂 My God you are ignorant

@elprofesor8571 3 ай бұрын

Let's discuss on any point that eng is a proponent of. Be it raful yadain or anything of your choice, establish any point of his.

@A.--. 3 ай бұрын

@@elprofesor8571 go ask him he takes live calls every week

@unkn0wnserv3r 3 ай бұрын

They never made that claim, please refrain from lying.

@A.--. 3 ай бұрын

@@unkn0wnserv3r of course they have....they have been fighting over Hand of Allah, Foot of Allah, Hazir-o-Nazir all these Mutashabihats for centuries thanks to disobedience of 3:7

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

The first 3 to enter HELL will include Ullema (Scholar)

@fwildhan2106 3 ай бұрын

So the ummah should follow laymen like Ali Mirza?

@A.--. 3 ай бұрын

@@fwildhan2106 no they should follow the BOOKS which Ali Mirza has opened to the layman

@fwildhan2106 3 ай бұрын

@A.--. Opened but can't read himself 😂😂😂😂

@A.--. 3 ай бұрын

@@fwildhan2106 reading and understanding is difficult. It doesn't even have a reference

@ssajid40 3 ай бұрын

@@A.--.Mirza says hes a Qari…Yet makes basic mistakes reading the Quran

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

If you follow Ullema which one...the Deobandi Ullema have done takfeer of Barelvie Ullema and vice versa.

@crashteamracingstudios 4 ай бұрын

Ah so the solution is follow an engineer who doesn't know Arabic. Right, noted

@tazboy1934 3 ай бұрын

I listen to both of them and ulema from outside the subcontinent too...I always try to stick with majority opinion....or safest opinion within the boundary of traditional Sunnism

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

Dont send us clips.....how about you make a review of his video and post it on KZfaq

@crashteamracingstudios 4 ай бұрын

Video was reviewed

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

Hay Hay Ho Ho...tho Madrassa Industrial Complex has gotto go! Hay Hay Ho Ho...tho Madrassa Industrial Complex has gotto go!

@crashteamracingstudios 4 ай бұрын

Nothing meaningful to say I see

@bodzhussain8776 3 ай бұрын

Hay hay ho ho... You know you need to really fear, When your day job is as an engineer. Coming on KZfaq pretending to be a scholar, I wonder who is paying you by the dollar? In the dunya you smirking whilst misleading, But on the day of judgement, you will be pleading...

@A.--. 3 ай бұрын

@@bodzhussain8776 we will all be pleading on that Day

@unkn0wnserv3r 3 ай бұрын

@@A.--. you clearly are acting like someone who does not fear that day, because you refuse to answer the specific corrections and blunders of Mirza, but prefer to continue commenting. But please continue because your comments 100% confirm what the podcast was trying to highlight 😅

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

Ashraf Ali Tanvi taught: Say....La illaha illalah, Ashraf Ali Tanvi Rasool-ullah. Naoozobilla!

@crashteamracingstudios 4 ай бұрын

Oh he taught it now, haha. The accusation seems to be evolving 😂😂

@tazboy1934 3 ай бұрын

No one believe in chisti or thanvi rasooallah

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

Ullema have cancelled each otherso their degrees and status is nullified.

@crashteamracingstudios 4 ай бұрын

Ah so the solution is follow an engineer who doesn't know Arabic. Right, noted

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

Id Deobandi scholars dont accept Barelvie scholars and voce versa both their degrees are nullified by virtue of cross-cancellation.

@crashteamracingstudios 4 ай бұрын

Ah so the solution is follow an engineer who doesn't know Arabic. Right, noted

@elprofesor8571 3 ай бұрын

@@crashteamracingstudios😂😂

@bodzhussain8776 3 ай бұрын

I see you don't accept the English dictionary, what does Voce mean? Do you mean vice? Don't give up your day job as an engineer...

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

Ali Mirza says to keep giving them money so you lie about Ali. He doesn't take money and says to keep giving the hungry Mullahs money.

@crashteamracingstudios 4 ай бұрын

They didn't lie, they said I don't get paid, therefore I'm not compromised. Where is the lie, you are embarrassing yourself

@elprofesor8571 3 ай бұрын

Isn't it a contradiction? Why does he say to donate to madrasahs when these madrasahs are misguiding people and do not follow quran and sunnah.

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

Equating ben shapiro who is a lier of opinions (like mullahs) while Engineer Ali is like Finkelstein (evide-based approach). You got it backward bro

@crashteamracingstudios 4 ай бұрын

Apt analogy

@A.--. 4 ай бұрын

If you cant speak urdu then your protected from Shirk and negation of Prophethood that founding leaders of Barelvies and Deobandis propagated.

@crashteamracingstudios 4 ай бұрын

Good point, carry on 😂

@ssajid40 3 ай бұрын

Mirza can’t recite Quran properly

@A.--. 3 ай бұрын

@@ssajid40just bescuse Abu Lahab and Abu Jahal could recite Quran doesn't save them from Hell. There are many Christian arabs who can recite better than millions of muslims but it doesn't save them.

@unkn0wnserv3r 3 ай бұрын

@@A.--.I like the fact that you selectively respond to points. If you are a truth lover, then accept that you made a false accusation against the scholars on the podcast about ijtihad in mutashabihat which someone corrected you already in the comments. There's no worth in trying to engage in a fruitful conversation when you refuse to accept clear mistakes on your and Mirza's part.

@A.--. 3 ай бұрын

@@unkn0wnserv3r hold your horses brother im busy too. I will get to the other points.