Nice video

One of your best ever, great Cadence, nice details, good visuals.. well done sir.. Cheers Allan

Video Idea: How costly would a US invasion of Cuba be?

@@christopherhoffer6643 not very, its not a real army anymore.. Like their Cigars the Communist's have driven it into the ground.. Remember the Castro brothers are Multi Billionaire Marxist.. western leftist hate groups are so very stupid..

@@christopherhoffer6643 this would be interesting

Yes. It is a fascinating history.

Russia would of covered the costs 😂

@@amacca2085 Soviets

Mei Day Communists are the smartest people in the world.

@@cosmicwakes6443 funny enough none of the smartest people in the world at that time or ever were communists. Happens when you kill off the educated out of fear of uprisings towards your delusions

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War Football will blow your mind away. (Clue: last air dogfight between propeller driven combat aircraft in history) 😉

1965 Pakistan vs indian air force dogfight

* Iranian F-14 Tomcat combat jet aircraft and their aerial victories during the 1980 - 1988 Iran/Irak War producing multiple IRIAF air combat Aces which still rank today as some of the most prolific jet killing Aces in history. * Propeller driven A-1 Skyraiders ground attack aircraft from the US Navy (and built during the Korean War era) downing Mig-17s combat jet aircraft from the Vietnamese Air Force during the Vietnam War. * A Nazi designed combat aircraft, the Messerschmitt Me-109G (a Checzoslovakian made version, Avia S-99), the most produced during WWII, the most famous aircraft from Nazi Germany, flying for the Israel Air Force during the Israeli War of Independence in 1947 and most extraordinarly, US pilots who used to kill them during WWII now flying and achieving aerial victories with these IAF combat aircraft during the first Israeli-Arab War by downing British made Spitfires and American made P-51s from the Egiptian Airforce. Insaneeee!!

Operation Bolo is especially so, @Yeah Right. The U.S used the greed of the NVAF, and their eagerness to shoot down USAF bombers, to savage the NVAF MIG-21 fleet. The F-4 Phantom II's flown by the USAF were equipped with a jamming pod normally carried by the F-105; so, the F-4's were thought to be bombers - BIG mistake...

Sth Africa also rapidly expanding their own domestic AA systems. Had the war gone on a year or two longer, when the Cheetah fighters (mirage upgrade to new generation), and the AA guns + missle systems (mounted on the Rooikat), the tide of war would have been very interesting.

And that was when they were on pursuit of the Communists, after defeating them on the ground.

​@@freedomloverusa3030 Jip, exactly.

@@demun6065 It would have definitely been interesting to see, how different the war would have continued, if said technology was to see (or see more) operational usage. Definitely, the domestic AA system, and surface to air missiles, would have been extremely interesting to see how they fared against the soviet technology. Someone I know (won't detail it), worked on the missile systems for their service (closing days of the war), and said how the new developing technology was several leagues ahead of the current systems used by the soviets (weather said project ever completed, I don't know) But yea, I would have loved to see the ZA-35 see action and make it past the prototype phase.

The very famous G5 howitzer was also reversed engineered and upgraded from a captured artillery piece, there was accounts of this artillery suppressing airbases so helicopters and aircraft could not take off.

De verdad? Donde hablasteis con el?

How many people did he kill?

@@cameraman1234567890a él vive en un edificio de veteranos por Plaza de la Revolución. Se llama Alejandro pero es amigo de un amigo. Mi amigo se llama Osvaldo, que era de tropas especiales y que operaba tras las líneas enemigas.

@@chaosXP3RT at least two confirmed downings, a few centurion tanks and a lot of Sabimbi's people with air to surface payload.

@@danielbenitezperez6264 2 confirmed downings!? Damn that must've been 87/88.

Hahahaha Max, you must be one hell of a liberal/ communist to believe that. It's like the ANC museum in South Africa that shows how the mighty terrorist SWAPO and associates like Cuban and Russians was the heroes. My friend propaganda is a ugly thing if it is not the truth.

WELL maybe they were just not up to their task and besides they did not want to fight a war that they had nothing to do with. SA was built by Europeans and do yourself a favour come and see what it is now

By G5 artillery, my brother was part of the G5 crew at that time.

My uncle also fought on Cuito Canavale when Cuba was drafting all soldiers at that time, he was mainly infantry but he doesn’t like speaking about it much, he lost many friends there, really bad war!

I wonder if it was for diplomatic reasons, maybe they were afraid that if they started going directly after South African troops it'd give the US the justification it needed to intervene and potentially turn a war that had been a slow victory until now into a grinding stalemate. Or maybe they just didn't feel the need to do anything other than keep South Africans away. Or maybe the larger goal was to make sure that South Africa kept itself overextended in this war so that the apartheid government would eventually fall apart, that was what happened in the end I guess.

@@hedgehog3180 The old SA government gave power to the ANC willingly. They were NOT forced to do it, all thanks to the traitor De Klerk. Now South Africa is a complete shithole country.

@@hedgehog3180 The war was largely kept a secret from the general South African Public, only deploying very small numbers of troops into Angola - there were only about 3,000 SA Soldiers fighting at Cuito Cuanavale. Directly attacking SA Bases in Namibia would have raised awareness of the war, possibly allowing hesitant politicians to commit larger numbers of troops. There has also been talk among veteran groups that some Cuban Generals said at the peace talks they were very concerned about SA Nuclear weapons being deployed if Cuban forces openly threatened to cross into Namibia.

Does show the professionalism of the saaf despite equipment that could not compete with the latest Russian kit.

Im sure we targeted that reservoir but hit their ammo dump by accident as it was behind or to the right of it. Remember the final attack to get rid of artillery ammo. My gun went forward again as part of a two gun team. 2 or 3 days. Too long agi lol

Soviet and Cuban were in separated mission, the soviet helped but they don't pay for each Cuban soldier. Angola pay for the Cabinda defense, the rest was a regular war like many others in the cold war

First time they used decent version and opponent was on par.

soviet fighters should have a big exclamation point regarding their performance in combat, they did alright when not operated by arab pilots

@@gabbyprincip1575 If you read the Syrian Air Force accounts they shot down a bunch of Israeli F15, F16’s and F4’s without any losses, even though the desert is littered with Mig23 wreckage.

Yeah, Egyptian Mig23’s handed over to the US were tested and found to be superior to the F16 in thrust and climb, but slightly inferior in manueverabilty. With a competent pilot it should have been a fairly even match.

It kinda just got screwed in the matchups but calling it bad is a bit like calling the F-16 bad because one got shot down by a Mig-21. It's more often than not everything around the plane that determines how well it does, pilot training, support crew, weapons equipment, ground based radar and so on.

Hotel trivago

The Real World War

Technical EO went there for round two after all the countries left.

My uncle was almost killed in Angola, brazilian marine. He suffered a MPLA ambush while driving a jeep, his teammate died with several shot wounds.

A lot of wars are increasingly fought with participants from EVERYWHERE.

EO were hired by a British businessman to destroy unita as savimbi was threatening their interests. Apparently they made use of oil drums with explosives to create an air burst fire bomb and probably would have been involved in savimbis last stand when he was killed. At Cuito they were Recces and 32 battalion troops, EO didn't exist then.

@@MarxAlex best part was EO fought for the MPLA against UNITA

People judge on South Africa for its past but we were killing Russians long before it became trendy.

Same in Thailand when we r still the head of SETO after American loses the Vietnam war and leave Communism is around us.... (Fucking Commi Vietnam , N.korean ,Red Khmer , Commi Laos and Soviet with China )

But we still winning the war and still alive LAMO what a great day....

@@mrkotouoeji4267 But still starving. Can't eat freedom eh. Haha

@@mrkotouoeji4267 it never really came.to a conclusion because of internal.politics in south Africa. Lol the forces that south Africa was facing never got any ground only after the south africans pulled out due to changing governments. Plus the rebels that got into government after the war ended up losing power to a bunch of south African mercenaries with out the help of.the soviets in the end. You think the combined efforts of the rebels, Russians and Cubans against a sanctioned south Africa would do a little better..but they lost tank after tanks and ended up in unmarked mass Graves in the middle of the bush. That's almost worse than what the afghans did to the Russians. They couldn't pull it off with all that help..

Yes, Battle of the Lomba is one of my favorites, I will never forget Skeletons on the closet… , my other favorite is Koevoet.

Wow, will look more into it, didn't know

@@serichejr My battalion, 101, was 80% Owambo troops and non-commissioned officers. These Owambos fought on the namibian side because of the atrocities done to their family by the MPLA. We reguarly ran into their families while we patrolled and gathered information from the border up to 35 km north. Our Ondangwa main base was at 17°55'47.40" S 15°58'56.14" E. We used the shooting range of Koevoet, who was the territory police. Our traing base was Miershoop at 18°23'33.09" S 16°37'18.64" E

@@Deontjie I thought the war had to do with neighborhing countries attacking South Africa because of Apartheid, today's South Africa's army has the potention to be an elite force....

@@serichejr In 1973 the African people attacked the Portuguese because they were generating and hoarding all the wealth. Just like East Africa did to the Indians in the early 50's. Some fled to South Africa, some made it back to Portugal. Most of the extensive fleet of large fishing ships was deliberately beached by the Portuguese crew. Still visible on Google Earth today. With the Portuguese control gone, civil war soon followed. Tribal warfare. There was no way for any fighting force to cross into South Africa. Crossing the semi-dessert in Namibia or Botswana would have meant certain death. If not from starvation, then from South African bombers. And Botswana was never anti-South-Africa. So that was never the plan. South Africa's government was attacked from within RSA borders. The ANC even planted bombs against Africans to purswayd them to support their cause. Then they switch to necklacing. This is where the ANC invented the method of putting a car tire around a live person''s neck, dousing them in fire, and burning them. Something still used today. Tat is why African people in South Africa will not vote against the ANC, even if they are dissatisfied with the ANC corruption. They will rather abstain from voting. Anyway, the Angolan war started as a tribal war for power between the tribes of Luanda, and the eastern tribes of Savimbi. The USSR got involved by forcing the bankrupt Cuba into war. South Africa was asked by the USA to help Savimbi and we were supported with funds from the USA. Until helping RSA was not politically correct any more. The ANC and Angolans love to claim victory at every change they get. But the fact is that the war was played inside Angola, not in Namibia. (except for a few terrorist acts like planting land mines, mostly killing local Owambos.) Our Buffel vehicle carrying Owambo troops was struck by a triple cheese mine in Namibia, with no injuries to the 10 passengers or driver. Visiting the shot out Russian T34 and T55 tanks in Angola is quite popular for ex South African soldiers that took part in that shooting. Using the world's first wheeled IFV.

@@serichejr today's SA army is a joke of epic proportions don't be lying.

sounds awesome heheh

In Angola

wait until you learn about the south african upgrade of a french plane using russian tech

@@jeandelacroix6726 which one ? Do tell, i'm actually interested

@@Errorcutive super Mirage with klimov engine

Bruh atleast say something orignal (Or atleast with proper English)

leading edge in medicin too

South Africa WAS a nuclear power, and then voluntarily gave it up - the only country to do that.

@@dougerrohmer not true. gaddafi gave up his. they still went after him tho...

@@operator9858 Wikipedia says: " Mohamed ElBaradei, head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, said Libya's nuclear program was "in the very initial stages of development" at the time.[2]" In other words, he didn't have one, and if he was even close the Israelis would have kicked his ass.

@@dougerrohmer Israelis? You do realize how far away Lybia is right?

Agg bly stil jou ver dommed khafer

Its one of those wars where we won most battles but largely lost the war in the grand scheme of things:/

South Africa won the war for the most part, since the Treaty of New York forced the Cubans to leave Angola without the MPLA in full control, and South Africa could withdraw from SWA in its own terms, essentially creating a buffer against and preventing safe havens for armed groups targeting South Africa itself. it just didn't enjoy the victory politically because of international pressure

Trots op jou, boet!

Al my broers was op die grens. Ek het oproep papiere gekry in graat 10 maar toe eindig die oorlog en ek mis die army met 1 jaar. Trots op my broers.

@@gethgod2350 Of course, we lost, the communist ANC is In power.

We want to hear your Uncles story, get him on YT " Legacy Conversations " before his history is lost.

Savimbi - "DEATH TO THE MPLA" Savimbi - also dead

Kentron

@@useryggfdcc Sorry! You're right. It was Kentron in those days.

@@guytero8812 Which tech gaint in Canada? I also moved to Canada after leaving Kentron.

@@useryggfdcc His name is Anthony and his surname starts with a D.

that's pretty cool, he must have good stories!

He did not eject, why should he - he was stopped and in one piece. But his seat malfunctioned and partially fired from the shock of the crash landing.

Indeed.

And now your fascist state is no more

@@michaelhayes4231 Fascist state? Need I remind you that South African's fought actual Fascists, during WWII. Including my grandfather. I advise you to come visit our country, to see just how diverse it is. Sadly it is painted very black and white in history, but its far more complicated than that.

@@michaelhayes4231 neither is the USSR or Fidel's Cuba. It's almost like... nations change over 30 years. Who woulda thunk?

@@ZANDF what the fuck are you talking about? South Africa was fascist but fought against the Germans because it was a colony. Every heard of the sharpeville massacre? SA only got equality today because people had to fight the apartheid government

"Sorry, we didnt know your jet was supposed to be invisible"

High 5. G2s. 10 call sign pappie. Gun no8. PACKER

Lol sure Thay did keep dreaming

T34 tanks still litre the landscape in Angola. So this was a bit of a (surprising) one sided battle.

I always thought it was T55 as their main armor brigades, with T72's coming in near the end of the war. On paper you would expect they have the clear advantage. I would really like to learn, how the Armour for both countries compared and how the enemy was countered.

I think it's a strange world. People passionate about flying jets that are only available to the military, and therefore only really used for attacking each other. Maybe they don't see the fight as a personal fight. They never really seem like the chest-thumping patriots to me.

The Impala is NOT an F-86 variant...

The Atlas Cheetahs were NOT South African produced fighters. I know...

@@useryggfdcc atlas built those based off information they got from IAI related to the kifir and Nesher fighters built for the Israeli Air Force

@@wwclay86 Like I said, I know they are not SA produced, not the Cheetah C. I was trained to work on them since the start of the project.

@@useryggfdcc oh cool! Those are some of my favorite planes. Hopefully I didn't offend you in any way.

He flew the MirageF1 CZ. I knew one pilot from 1 SQN who was killed on the low flying mission at night into Angola, Major Copenhagen . My friend in the SA army special forces found his crashed MirageF1. Me served in the SAAF for 12 years., we lost 2 MirageF1 and one crash landed. Interested times back in the '80s.

@@Rafaelleao1977 You think the american press would ever report positive about a soviet aircraft?

MIG 23 were in the Indian Airforce and performance was good

Then again Cuba didn't use MLD's, those were reserved only for the Soviet Air Force. Cuban Floggers in Angola were only of the MF/BN variants, the BN being a dedicated Ground Attack version and the MF being a downgraded export version of the very first Flogger model. MLD's would have ripped the Mirage F1 a new asshole with no difficulty, those things were designed to go toe to toe with F-16's whilst the MiG-29 was still in low supply.

Mig & Sukhoi = brilliant Jets flown by sea turtles

Sometimes it's the smart thing to do. Pick your time to fight.

If they can get their fat arses in the seat of a fighter jet?

@@dougerrohmer The old SAAF, would make it their time to fight, on their own terms 😂

@@Deontjie ahahahaha

No puedes entenderlo, porque no eres un estratega, como lo fué Castro, el quería evitar una intervención directa de USA en la guerra

9 : 1

Hahaha yeah right

No they did not. They lost one during the SADF's attack on the Tumpo bridgehead from a UNITA portable missile, and another during the Cuban "Western offensive" when two Cuban MIG's destroyed the calueque dam's sluice gates, with one of the Jets being hit by South African AAA and crashing on the way back to base

@@ravenmusic6392 furthermore, my grandfather was there. I have thoroughly researched the issue and Cuban and South African forces suffered similar casualties on the ground, however, the Cubans decisively achieved air superiority by the time of Cuito Canavale. Aerial battles between the 2 countries were big events, and Cuba simply had better jets at the time. South Africa had already been sanctioned at this point so it’s not their fault, and despite the limitations dogfighting was not one sided

There was no SA-13 in the region. Only SA-9s and SA-8s were shipped there. The list about the support is available. The Angola theater was so meaningless that Soviets sent T-34s (!) in early stages and even T-55s were sent from tanks later. Literally the third line stuff was exported except SAMs and fighters. The MiG-23s were shipped because in the USSR MiG-29s replaced them except the MiG-23MLD variant. So it was a lots of them. Same case the SA-9. Form 1978/79 SA-13 started to replace the SA-9 and the life span of the SA-9 was limited because the crystallization in the rocket propellant.