Oh hey retro baseball I love your videos definitely underated

This a John Thorn burner account? Lol

I can’t believe someone can make a living researching 1800s Baseball. Pretty cool job.

How do you make a living researching baseball? Sounds like a good job.

Very cool.

It's mentioned in a book "Baseball Before We Knew It"

Maybe you could find it and share it??

Earliest reference to baseball in America is in a by-law written in 1791 in Pittsfield, Massachusetts.

that story was debunked but nit far iff from what happened…the amalgamation of two sports that were played begat the third game that we know of today

Agreed these videos are so good!

same

I have precious memories of watching the Reds play at Crosley Field in the 60s. Think it's a vacant lot now.

Soccer. Psssh.

Assocation Football... Ass. Foot. For short?

@@TheBatugan77 Soccer soccer soccer soccer! There, feel better?

You must not forget that in the time the British occupied NE USA the game they played was cricket. There were many cricket clubs and even more players. If you look around there arre still some cricket ovals in existance. I'm Aussie and when visiting DC thirty years ago I saw a lunchtime game being played between what appeared to be diplomatic staff on an oval. A USA Cricket Association exists so maybe check their history.

Did you happen to Slop Your Knickerbockers?

Somebody always complains about the music, without fail lol.

@@MarlinWilliams-ts5ul Thanks for responding a year later. LOL

The Oldest Team name Philadelphia Phillies(1890) The Oldest Team Cubs & Braves (1870) Fenway Park(1912) Alexander Joy Cartwright (Knickerbockers Club,1845)

Knickerbockers, The First Baseball team(1845)

Well we know that they played during the Civil War, 1861-1865. In Ken Burns Baseball they mention that their "center field " was captured.

The reference to Rugby (presuming Rugby Union as opposed to Rugby League) with AFL has little bearing as an analogy to baseball. There is definitely no where near as many variations in the rules in baseball wherever it is played. Americans tend to not have a good overall view of how many nations baseball is played in.

@@flamingfrancis yes, I understand that. But in the video, he specifically delineates the history of how “New York Rules” baseball became the dominant form of baseball and eventually just became referred to as “baseball” as we refer to it today. All I was saying was, I think it would have been funny and cool if the “New York Rules” part of the name had held on through history and through the years, in similarly comparable manner as to how the specific phraseage of “Australian Rules football/rugby” has held on in their sport through the years and over the course of time and history. I was not making any direct comparison of the three games beyond historical, nomeclatural choices of phraseage for the names. No big deal. No problemo. Just a “fantasy” thought that Inhad while watching this excellent video on the history.

Further Fun Fact.....the first known (REAL) World championship was played under the auspices of the International Baseball Federation (IBAF) in 1938. I'll let you all check out the details in Wikipedia to find out who won.

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Ooo so that's where Crickets comes from, Cricket....Yea I like New York Baseball much Better

Oakland As: 122 years of fire sales just to keep competing

@Paul Kostiak Great story, didn't know that. One small correction, though, Mack was the owner-manager of the Philadelphia Athletics (forebears to todays Oakland Athletics), not the Phillies.

More total horsesh!t to cover up the truth. The freemasons created baseball, thats why there is 3 strikes and 3 outs and 9 innings, in reference to 33rd degree masons! All you have see to KNOW THIS TRUTH is look downn at the field AND SEE THAT IT IS THE SHAPE OF A COMPASS AND SQUARE, the symbol of freemasonry! 90 feet between bases is a nod to 90 degree right angles, achieved by a square.

that was long since debunked

Knickerbockers, The First Baseball team(1845)

"Bat"? It was a popular similar version of MLB played in Canada, early 1800s, I've just discovered.

@@tur7321 except they weren’t…the game was around before them

Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it!

Video or it never happens bro.

Look it up

Thank you! I was waiting for this. Beachville's my home town and baseball's my favourite sport so I'm quite proud of it

Might of have been...or might have been a similar game called "Bat". Absolutely worthy of being discussed imo. Thanks!

Can you produce a copy of the rules used?

More total horsesh!t to cover up the truth. The freemasons created baseball, thats why there is 3 strikes and 3 outs and 9 innings, in reference to 33rd degree masons! All you have see to KNOW THIS TRUTH is look downn at the field AND SEE THAT IT IS THE SHAPE OF A COMPASS AND SQUARE, the symbol of freemasonry! 90 feet between bases is a nod to 90 degree right angles, achieved by a square.

Ok

Braves & Cubs The Oldest Team(1870) Oldest Team name Philadelphia Phillies(1890) Fenway Park(1912)

Thanks Jerry

More total horsesh!t to cover up the truth. The freemasons created baseball, thats why there is 3 strikes and 3 outs and 9 innings, in reference to 33rd degree masons! All you have see to KNOW THIS TRUTH is look downn at the field AND SEE THAT IT IS THE SHAPE OF A COMPASS AND SQUARE, the symbol of freemasonry! 90 feet between bases is a nod to 90 degree right angles, achieved by a square.

Yes we were

​@@yankees29 Go Red Sox! 👍🏼😂

were? they’re still spirited! they’re not crazy like the Philadelphia fans or masochists like Marlins fans, but they’re still spirited

Knickerbockers,The First team Baseball(1845)

Baseball historian Ken Burns might disagree.

@@brucetowell3432 I knew many Americans would reject it. That's why I said Google it.

@@fabio40 Oh I did, but your argument should be with Ken Burns, far be it from me to be called a baseball historian. Have you seen his baseball documentary?

@@brucetowell3432 I don't intend to argue. Just stating the facts.

it came into my recommendeds I believe because the youtube algorithm “sees” that I watch a lot of the channels Jomboy, Baseball Doesn’t Exist, and Pat McAfee, and also nother one simply called, Baseball Sports. Lol, yes, I always try to wonder about how the “algorithm” sends videos into the recommendeds. Even though I am certainly not deciphering it nor am I a programmer, thinking about how it happens makes me think I might almost be deciphering the secrets of the computer algorithm that controls video recommendations. Yes and how silly eh?

To sell you LIES! More total horsesh!t to cover up the truth. The freemasons created baseball, thats why there is 3 strikes and 3 outs and 9 innings, in reference to 33rd degree masons! All you have see to KNOW THIS TRUTH is look downn at the field AND SEE THAT IT IS THE SHAPE OF A COMPASS AND SQUARE, the symbol of freemasonry! 90 feet between bases is a nod to 90 degree right angles, achieved by a square.

If you're referring to Seinfeld, I was thinking the same thing!😁🤣

father of the rules but not the game

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Ask any Brit, Kiwi or Aussie... we're all Yanks on this side of the pond, chief. Heh hehehe heh...

Hide the jealousy Cliff.

@@TheBatugan77 What the hell would I be jealous about? I'm from Jersey, near where the first "New York Game" (the basis of the game that's played today) was played in 1846 at Elysian Fields - just across the Hudson from the "Capitol of Baseball" - Ken Burns. Generations of my family have seen the best teams in baseball play. My Dad caught one of Babe Ruth's home runs, and I was a friend of Yogi Berra when I was a kid. My Dad and I lunched with Whitey Ford at the Diamond Club. What the hell would we care about a perenially mediocre team from Ohio? Ohio? Fuck Ohio.

If you want to talk about the oldest continuously running franchise, it would be the Atlanta Braves, who have played every season since 1871 (and have a reason to lay claim as the first professional baseball team as well since quite a few 1869 Cincinnati Red Stockings players joined that organization)

@@FireballFlareblitz734 and took the team name with them setting up the Red Sox to take the name eventually

More total horsesh!t to cover up the truth. The freemasons created baseball, thats why there is 3 strikes and 3 outs and 9 innings, in reference to 33rd degree masons! All you have see to KNOW THIS TRUTH is look downn at the field AND SEE THAT IT IS THE SHAPE OF A COMPASS AND SQUARE, the symbol of freemasonry! 90 feet between bases is a nod to 90 degree right angles, achieved by a square.

The old game was actually filled with cursing, gambling and violence, on and off the field. Fights in the stands. Shady characters in the stands and dugouts. Even a few fires started and stands burned to the ground. It was no place for women and children. It wasn't until the early 1900's that team owners began to try and clean things up, because they were losing money at the gate. It culminated in 1919 with the Black Sox scandal which allowed them to enforced gentility.

@@TK0_23_ And your ultimate point? Not disregarding what you said, because even back then you had shady things going on in baseball (and every sport, for that matter). However, don't use what you just said as justification for the nonsense that's unfolding in baseball recently and now. You can't tell me with a straight face that what we have now in baseball is a million times better than what we had in the early 1900s. Politics, money, arrogance, and corruption are all anchoring baseball now. Do you want to spend thousands of dollars just to attend a single MLB game?

@@stevenvitte in the early 1900s a team lost the world series on purpose for gambling money. I think you have very rose tinted glasses on when talking about early baseball.

I'm almost 50 and think the game and the players are absolutely fascinating and fun. The "politics" is completely avoidable, as is the drama. All one has to do is watch the 9 innings of play between two teams. That's it. If you chose to embed yourself in the narratives of (as you admitted - elite and wealthy people) then that's what you'll get out of it. Tune out all that noise "old timer" just enjoy the game!

Thanks for the correction. I should have said the ball is bowled or hurled without any bent elbows. Bowlers run towards the batsman.

Hey Bloke. 👈😡 This is 'Merica! If we say PITCH, it's PITCH! You GOT IT? Good..

@@TheBatugan77 Ahh, always amusing to see an American cultural imperialist in full stride. 🤣

@@sentimentalbloke185 we take after the Brits, you taught us everything that we know

@@bostonrailfan2427 I'm not British, chief.

Incorrect...there are a number of versions and it was generally found to be a "village" game espeiallly when played in areas of Wales.

his buddy Abe Spaulding claimed that he did…the same guy whose company benefited from the fame his claims helped generate

nope…but nice try you can lay claim to a chunk of lacrosse though

@@bostonrailfan2427 baseball was invented in canada in 1478

@@TheManWithNoName93 no you blithering idiot: it’s just one of the first recorded games by that name. the name itself is older than that: it’s at least 260 years old. it’s in multiple newspapers from before that year. given that there’s a strong BRITISH link to Canada then it’s not the same baseball that you believe it to be: it’s a cousin of the sport, like rounders or one of the other mentioned games. but i doubt uou care, you’re too lazy to bother researching

@counselthyself you do know that the tribes WERE NOT SLL IN CANADA, right? the bulk of the originators WERE FROM THE UNITED STATES. Western and Upper New York/Pennsylvania area, not Quebec. so no, i was not wrong. just because the name was French due to the whites not pronouncing the native words DOES NOT MAJW IT CANADIAN

Well, times tables and long division kicked your ass. So it actually makes sense... Big Dam blew bands...

Cricket is easier to understand than baseball

@@brennanroy7842 just bowling the ball to the batsman then the guys running back and forth to score runs until out…the real issue is it lacks the complexity of planning and tactics

Sound like an old guy shaking his fist at the kids bud...just sayin...😅

@@lewislovelord8977 You read my file

@@piggyroo100 Lol. It's okay man. The game is in okay shape. The people who run the game will always be despised because we all despise authority. But "the game" is fine. Always will be. 👍

@@lewislovelord8977 Not to me. I stopped watching and attending. Think they’ll miss me? Universal dh was the last straw.

@@piggyroo100 Naw. Probably not but the game isn't really about individuals, never was imo.

Alexander Cartwright Jr(Knickerbockers club,1845)

Doc Adam's was too busy diggin bullets out of Matt Dillon to be playing baseball!

Watch my full lecture on the "Origins of Baseball". I mention Newbury's Little Pretty Pocket Book.

duller than cricket? soccer is the dullest sport of all the big sports!

@@bostonrailfan2427 Soccer? What is soccer? I fear you may be referring to football. Not American football of course, which appears to be a game designed solely for TV ads and those not fit enough to play rugby. I agree football is dull, so dull in fact that it is the no.1 sport in the world for both men and women.

@@thearcticlord3920 oh lookie, another ignorant Brit who doesn’t know the damn word is their own and who thinks that they’re superior because they use another word.

Bowling's a good sport. It keeps your kids off the streets and puts them in the alleys.

I had learned that cricket was popular in the 1800s, but as baseball grew in popularity, cricket players migrated over to baseball.

@@ericdailey8587 stole?

You must have totally forgot to mention that wicket keepers (Catcher) in cricket wear large padded gloves on both hands PLUS inner gloves.. Arguably the most spectacular catches taken are from wicketkeepers who gain a big lateral movement advantage knowing their hands are safer. It is a safety factor in any case and has always been part of baseball. If you think that it makes cricket more superior to baseball you need to start learning. You might also ask yourself why do most of the national players of cricket teams wear basebll gloves when dong their warm ups prior to the commencement of most games these days?

@@flamingfrancis okay yes the wicket keeper wears gloves but look at their proximity. They are for safety. Your catchers are so swaddled in armor you would think they were on a bomb disposal team, so go on compare the two. Baseball gloves are made to make the catching easier and less painful on the hands. Full stop. Stop kidding yourself and do us a favor, use less words, you sound pretentious. Oh and don’t even get me started on all the pads and helmets your “football” players use, that game easily compares to rugby, what is it with American sports is your toughness is only for show?

And a proper cricket game can last a week.

@@morefiction3264 5 days. For a test match. Sure. I never said it was an exciting game.

The other thing I've wondered. Have you ever played catch with someone with a baseball? Typically we'll stand 30 feet apart or so and throw a hardball as hard as we can at each other. And I do mean at each other. You target the shoulder, sometimes it's more at the face though. It's one of the fundamental skills. Throwing and catching like that.

More total horsesh!t to cover up the truth. The freemasons created baseball, thats why there is 3 strikes and 3 outs and 9 innings, in reference to 33rd degree masons! All you have see to KNOW THIS TRUTH is look downn at the field AND SEE THAT IT IS THE SHAPE OF A COMPASS AND SQUARE, the symbol of freemasonry! 90 feet between bases is a nod to 90 degree right angles, achieved by a square.

And yet you can’t help but being pressed at others enjoying it. Sad life.

Lol. We are not "untrollable" and I appreciate your comment OP. Made me laugh! It can be a dry game and not for everyone, agreed and I love the sport.

Just admit you can't understand it

back on the short bus with you