Here is a link to the timeline documents: drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1R_PrexMkTjYpQAraxlhzs2U5EPJEPioc If you'd like to join the discord server, here is a link: discord.gg/r7Y3FyNBk4. There are over 300 members so far. Love to have you be part of the conversation!

You should be the official MCU's timeline keeper! You're clearly doing a fantastic job and you're putting more effort in than some well-paid Marvel execs.

You have no idea how much I nerded out on the credit-scenes, my dad and my friend just looked at me as if like ‘what are you doing?’ ‘Why are you shocked?’ And I quote I went “that’s, tha, that’s I-Immortus, tha-that’s Rama Tut,” while sliding off my seat.

I guess Peyton Reed, aside from absolutely being drunk, was attributing Cassie's age to Abby Ryder Fortson's age DURING FILMING. Born in March 2008, She was six when they shot Ant-Man from August to December 2014, and she was nine when Ant-Man and the Wasp was shot from August to November 2017. And then, he didn't even do math, but knew Cassie had to be 18 in Quantumania.

Is it possible there was a separate incident 2 years before the events of Antman where a man in a bee costume tried to kill Cassie when she was 6?

Loved that you changed Love & Thunder's placement! I completely agree with that, let's hope they confirm our theory 🙏🏻

"Hello MCU fans" at the beginning sounded a lot like David Dastmalchian as Veb in Quantumania

Just came out of the theater, and wow! It wasn’t a perfect movie, but it does an amazing job of setting up the future. And Cassie’s age did confuse me because I thought she was supposed to be 18 during Quantumania, but idk.

The age thing with Cassie and miscalculation with Homecoming are equally frustrating haha The latter more so, since they have the big title card, plus it mentioned once or twice by Toomes about Avengers 1, and Happy with “8 years” mentioned in relation to Iron Man 1’s 2008 release date

Great video man, I love the video. I kind of expected as we went into phase 5 that the timeline would go into 2026 but the reasons that you gave definitely proves the 2025 timeline. I’m also really annoyed at Nate Moore, him saying that the timeline gets thrown out the window makes me feel like the timeline book will be useless. Man, its so an annoying. Anyway, great video and the multiversal ties video will help me understand those confusing credit scenes.

But anyways, Quantumania was AMAZING! I don't care about the critics, the movie was great and I had so much fun with it, I got goosebumps watching the post-credits scenes... I can't wait for Kang's future.

Found this channel a few days ago. Your analysis on the MCU and easy tone of voice have made these videos some of the quickest 20 minutes ever!

8:44 Also remember we’ve had this same conversation about Taika Waititi & Nate Moore. Outside of film interviews do not affect the canon, we still dont know if the writers or directors of Endgame are correct about Cap’s ending

I loved this film. It knew how to combine an Ant-Man film and a Kang setup, Jonathan Majors literally gave me chills in every one of his scenes, MODOK was done perfectly in my oponion and the character relationships were done very well without interrupting the pace of the film, sure the film isn't perfect and I have a few nitpicks such as how the ending could have been a little better or Baskin Robbins Scott randomly appearing in the probability field for no reason but otherwise a really enjoyable film with what might be possibly my favourite credit scenes of any MCU film to date, seeing all the Kangs together just like in the comics and then Loki was such an experience, solid 8.9/10 from me.

5:54 Cassie telling Scott “its not my birthday” & he says “well I’m making up for all the ones I missed” Is why I don’t think its best to say Quantumania happens over the course of 3 days. Its possible what we see is him giving a full “catch up” from him returning to the snap because both him & Hope have a date on a red carpet, plus meeting with their suits in various places & the book tour. I would summate the actual plot does occur over a few days but not everything in the movie as its meant to give you a “heres what happened since the last time you saw me” Which means its possible the ending could occur months after the fight with Kang. Should be noted we also don’t know how much time passed in the real world from when he went into the Quantum Realm. Scott mentions “we don’t know how much has changed since we’ve been going it could be years again” It may not be years but it could have weeks or months.

I absolutely love all the work you do! I’m a big timeline guy myself so I was so stoked when I came across your channel! It’s so cool to see other people nerd out about the chronological events of their favorite franchises… I have created so many timelines from my favorites including the MCU, Star Wars, Assassin’s Creed and so many more! Keep up the great work!

You’re one of my favorite channels I’ve found recently. You’re doing amazing work, friend. Kudos.

I too also really liked Quantumania, in fact I just got out of seeing it as I’m writing this. Was there weird pacing? Sure but it was in no way a bad movie. Same with eternals I think eternals is severely underrated.

I think it’s interesting how the amount of time the story takes has decreased with each movie. Ant-man takes place over the course of a few weeks, ant-man and the wasp takes place over the course of a few days, and I think ant-man and the wasp:quantumania takes place over the course of a few hours. I wouldn’t say this is a bad thing, but it changes the character acrs. I imagine that origin stories have to span more time, so I suppose that makes sense.

I think when they made the original Ant-Man they intended her to be 6 in that movie because they hired a 6 year old actor and then that changed haphazardly in Ant-Man and the Wasp when they wrote in the quote from Scott saying she’s 10. But in the producer’s mind she was still originally 6 and it was reconned to fit better with the timeline they made.

The costume designer for Shang Chi spoke to my class a couple years ago and I asked her about changing the design of the ten rings to bracelets and she said that Kevin was very specific about that change and that it would influence things they hadn’t announced yet. At the time I thought it was eternals but now I think he was referring to kang

you didn’t talk about how when Kang returned the energy blast from that one freedom fighter with the laser for a head he looked similar to when shang chi returned wenwu’s attack with the 10 rings

I love you videos dude, keep it up. And I really liked Quantumania a lot, I can’t wait for more.

Were you a teacher before doing youtube? You have that empathetical and understanding tone of some teachers I had in school. Either way, looking forward to the book analysis!

Will you do a video about the different Kangs we've now seen, the ones you hope to see, the likely ones to come and etc.?

17:03 woldn't it make more sense to have that strand connect to Loki? Seeing as it is the finale of Loki which allows for this Kang variant to exist, and the sacred timeline imagery is referenced. Plus that post-credits scene!

I feel your pain, man And I agree 100% with your ratings and personal opinions on the movie Really good job, nice video, +1 subscriber I still think about the "8 years later" every night before sleep lmao

I agree so much with your rating of the movie. I would maybe even put it in the low 80s. Great video!

I look at Cassie saying the age six line as her not remembering the exact age or date from then until _Quantumania._ It may be confusing to figure timelines out, but character-wise its very true to real life.

I recently started watching your videos and was especially intrigued by the timeline ones. I had a thought about some of them however, and think it's an interesting thought experiment. In Shang Chi, Far From Home and Ms. Marvel, you state the errors in placing them due to real life celebrations not taking place where they should. My thoughts are that the blip caused these various events to be placed different in the MCU than the real world, like the Festival of Lights not taking place in October since maybe there were not enough people to justify doing it that month. Anyways, just a thought I had. Love the videos!

I really liked this movie. A strong start to phase 5, even if I think it's the weakest movie to start a phase so far (many will say Iron Man 3, but I love that movie lol). Kang and MODOK were great, End credits were great, it was a solid 7/10 for me. The VFX were a really rough in a few places imo, but that's okay. Regardless, into Gotg3, my most anticipated MCU film since 2017. So excited!!

Don't forget, Rotton Tomatoes critics also rated Home Alone 2: Lost in New York as a worse movie than Home Alone 3

Haha, great video. Yeah, I'm of the mind that Quantumania happens in July 2025, and Cassie (and Peyton Reed) are simply wrong about her age in Ant-Man. But it's quotes like these that have got me skeptical about this timeline book (or at least made me feel validated about my skepticism, haha).

Peyton Reed sounded almost mad with the interviewer for asking about the timeline.

Just left the theater a couple of hours ago, and I'm in agreement with you, on both counts. While I realize time isn't what you think it is, the writers were clearly incorrect. Also, this film was much better than L&T, which I didn't hate, but was just okay. My letter grades for the two are B-/C+ for L&T, and B+ for Quantumania. I really feel Q nailed the serious to humor ratio, something that was my biggest criticism of L&T. Great video!

11:33 Actually Feige wants us to buy the book and figuratively throw $50 out the window

“Well you weren’t 6, you were 8” lmfao

Great video, but at one point, you said that you didn’t understand the Rotten Tomatoes rating of 48%. I think you are correct that you don’t understand it. The RT score is only the percentage of positive reviews, not an average of the ratings. So 48% does not mean that the average rating was 48%. 48% means that on average, 48% of the reviewers gave it a positive review (60+ points on a 100 point scale). To put it another way, a film that receives 48% of the reviews as 5 stars, and 52% as 2 stars, would get the same RT score (48%) as a film that receives 48% of the review as 3 stars and 52% as 1 star. I hope I’m explaining that clearly, and that maybe it helps a bit. Thanks again for a great video. I think you’re spot-on with your analysis!

I don’t know if it helps out, but I watched the movie and to answer the Cassie ‘Birthday’ situation at the end, Scott said that since he missed a few birthdays with Cassie, she deserved to have an extra. I really liked Kang and Janet in this movie. It was finally cool to see Michelle Pfeiffer play Janet and be the rouge fun to Hank’s more scientific nature. My only wish was that Hope got more to do this movie, and that the chemistry between Kathryn Newton and Paul Rudd can improve because not gonna lie, in comparison too Emma and Abby, I didn’t really feel that connection that’s been the core of the Ant-Man films.

As a longtime comic book fan I think that the continuity errors and age issues makes it more relatable. Character ages fluctuate all the time in a comic books you have to just let it go and enjoy it

Thinking about it more, I think it would’ve been better if Peyton Reed didn’t say anything about Cassie being 18 in this movie. Because had that been left ambiguous she could be whatever age matches the actual timeline of events. By saying she’s 18 in the movie explicitly creates issues.

Great video!!! I agree and I would actually give it a 9 out of 10. It was Antman meets Strange World meets Star Wars lol

I know you have your ranking for every individual movie. But what’s your ranking for a character film series. Like example if you put Cap’s movies together like first avenger, winter soldier and civil war or spider man’s homecoming, far from home and no way home. Which film series is your favorite( excluding the avenger’s movies)?

6:50 This guy should be a professional actor. P.S. I can’t believe Payton Manning would do something so despicable.

It’s really painful to see someone at marvel not care about the timeline… For a company as big as Marvel, I expect them to know exactly what they are doing!

Watched Quantumania today, don’t understand the critics either, I loved it.

Would it be possible that when Scott was saying Cassie was 10, it meant that she was turning 10? Like she’s still nine but with her birthday only like a month or two away Scott is under the foregone conclusion that she is basically a ten year old? It doesn’t help the 6 year old line but it’s closer 🧐

Scott actually says that he's just making up for the birthdays he missed. Cassius said "it's not my birthday" scott immediately replies with "I know I missed a few"

Scott and Hope not getting stuck at the end makes me feel like young avengers isn't happening

I watched Quantumania on the 17th, I loved it! I think it was really cool. It wasn't perfect and there are some things I wished they did different, but that doesn't ruin a movie for me. A movie can have flaws and I still enjoy it. For me its definitely an 84/100 for me, loved it, it was so flashy and cool! Kang was fantastic, he's probably my favourite marvel villain ever. I actually have a collaborative writing project, kinda like the MCU, where all my friends write stories in the same universe as eachother and trust me, the job of timekeeper got so incredibly difficult we just threw it away. It's a personal project, so we have more leeway of mistakes, but trust me when I say forgetting stuff like this happens all. the. time with us Every few weeks someone will realise "Actually this age doesn't line up with this and this doesn't line up with that" and we just have to say "Dammit" and move on hehe.

This was a great video! I agree on the quality, I didn't think it was great but I really liked Ant Man 3 and didn't much care for Ant Man 2. I don't normally act so strictly on timeline (my watch order is based on creating thematic arcs) but the timeline is fascinating!

Can someone shed light on the podcast thing? The way the podcast title is phrased, it sounds like he is being interviewed, not the interviewer. But mostly everyone keeps saying that it's his podcast

A very good explanation to the whole Cassie age thing could be that she is 9 in 2018 and 18 in 2026. What reed said could be right. I have a dad and he is always missing my age and my sisters by one or two years.same thing goes with my grandparents even if we are really close. So I think that the expression 10 year old could work for anybody between the ages of 8 to 11. 9 and a half is in that area. So then it can confirm what reed said about her being 9. An explanation to why he said that Cassie was 6 could be that she turned 7 since it was 2 and a half years or something prior to any man 2 but instead of considering the day that she turned 7 maybe he said 6 because he was thinking prior to her actual date of birth or something. It would be still wrong but it kinda works. Then of course though there’s Cassie’s age in 2025/2026. The reasonable thing to do, if listening to reed (hopefully not drunk reed), is to put her 18th birthday in 2026. That contradicts Nate Moore’s statement but I he was the same guy who practically said that he didn’t know what he was talking about. I don’t know. It’s caos.

19:22 I was thinking this, he may have been pulled into another dimension & stranded again. The other Kang’s say he died

I liked the movie, but I think it was all over the place. 1 & 2 were heists and 3 had the potential to be. With Kang having an important thing (the ball) and our heros needing it. Also, we always had the parallel that Janet lost time with her daughter and Scott Lost time with his daughter. In this movie Janet got the offert to get the time back. I think they should have explored Scott's offer more. Time with their kids is such an important thing for parents, i don't see how they benefitted from changing it to a vague : trust my daughter. Motive

Realistically it’s probably an error in the script, but I think another way to rationalize it would be that Scott rounded up in Ant Man & The Wasp.

10:50 - God, that gave me anxiety, Lord please help us

I really hope Modok returns to mcu as villain

I really liked the movie, and don't get the RT score AT ALL. Kang was fantastic and I can't wait to see what Loki Season 2 is teasing. It's a shame not even Peyton Reed knows where on the timeline it fits, but that doesn't really affect my enjoyment of the movie. Great video, thanks for covering it!

8:04 if she was 6 in 2015 + 2018 she was 9. Its possible because she would still turn 10 in 2018 (maybe) Thats a hard one to fit the age 10 in. Its possible Scott just rounded up My parents keep adding 1-2 years to my age when I’m not that old. They kept saying I was 30 from 27-29

16:00 I think that is just a made-up story her make because how did mrs marvel know that scott and hope go on vacation and the full story?

Yeah this movie is certainly a much easier one to place in the timeline compared to ones of late. I have no clue what Peyton Reed was on about in that interview and I take Cassie's line as just a relative age and not something exact.

I love Modok in this movie. Well up until the end where i think his death was ridiculous.

I just watched the movie yesterday, so I'm now catching up on your videos. I believe Kang did die in the end. Or at least THIS variant of Kang died. The thing about Kang is that there are a million versions of him around the Multiverse, all extremely powerful. In this movie they're even explaining that the reason why this Kang was in the Quantum Realm to begin with is that he was defeated and exiled Realm by the other Kangs when he tried to fight them, so it's implied that this Kang is among the weakest of them! I'm genuinely excited to see how this new story will play out!

I think you could compromise and have it be that Cassie is 6 but turns 7 during Ant Man in 2015 (if she literally just turned 7, Cass messing it up and saying she was 6 is only a few days off), 9 but only a couple months off turning 10 in Ant Man 2 (If Scott was talking to Cassie he'd obviously know to be specific, but conversationally to other adults, he rounds up), 15 in Endgame late 2023, then has just turned 17 in Quantumania and you can still place it in 2025 (close enough where the "becoming an adult" theme still applies, and Peyton is just slightly off) Maybe I've not gotten the timeline exact and there's something I've missed that doesn't make it possible, but I think it works if they went with that. I don't put much weight into the director statements (especially after the recent one), or the characters' conversational mentions of age 6 and 10 referencing Cassie in 2015 and 2018 respectively.

You should do a video called "Where do the Marvel Television shows take place in the MCU timeline?"

5:25 I’m so confused by that tho cuz…that’s not what happens. That’s not why Scott helps kang

8:30 The Age 6 is a retcon and we have to deal with it.

Just throwing out a theory lvl 3000 here. But what if the age error line in the car was intentional because Cassie.... Has been swapped by a Skrull?? Skrulls don´t always get personal info from the past correct (like talos being okay being called Nick instead of Fury) and yeah scott was just being a nice dad and didnt wanna correct her. Now I dont think this is happening but would be a fun surprising twist for sure

I've said it before and I'll say it again, you need to be hired to be the official Marvel Studios timekeeper!

Great video. I personally enjoyed the movie and the villains, I think they were consistently good through the movie, my only problem with them is their last scenes/parts Spoilers if you didn't watch the movie . . . . . . . . MODOK had a very rushed redemption, the whole movie was taunting or killing people, but then just because Cassie told him something he bacame good in the last moment and call Scott a brother, I guess we have to assume he is crazy (the avenger joke was funny unlike the brother one) Kang, he was show as a threat in the movie, but "Kang the Conqueror" is suppose to be the main Kang and the main villain of not just the phase, the saga. And the fact that he was "killed" by Antman and co. kills a lot of tension for future movies, because if they can defeat him when the stakes are lower why wouldn't all the Avengers defeat him when the stakes are higher? I say this cause in this movie his whole motivation is to escape, after that he is going to fight other Kangs so he isn't an immadiate threat to 616, Marvel Studios could have him winning here an just defeat him later when he tries to conquer/destroy 616, that way you solidly establish him as a villain and threat. What is worse is that one of the trailers created controversy for showing to much, one of the scenes was from the final fight were Scott says "we both have to lose" but that dialogue ments nothing cause the good guys win 100%, Kang is sent to a probability world or whatever, Scott survives and even returns home safely with Hope. An storm is forming, yeah but that is tomorrow, today they won. One more thing for Kang, they nerfed him without shame during the battle, he was desintegrating people easily untill the protagonist appear, and there's no explanation of why he couldn't desintegrate them like the rest, seriously this movie aimed so hard to the simplistic happy ending. About Hope, all I can say is that I liked the moments of her and Scott, that being said I thing the movie should be Antman and Stinger/Stature Quantumania cause they focused more on Scott and Cassie and Hope barely had anything to do aside from figthing

The reason for the low score is because so many people are right in the middle with basically half going barely positive and half going barely negative so very few people hated it but few loved it.

13:38 Goes back to me saying the films main core events could occur after Eternals & No Way Home but theres parts that could occur before or simultaneously

In all honestly, the weakest part of this movie for me was cassie. They start with a fantastic idea and pretty much drop it by the end. There was no payoff to him teaching her the grow/punch thing where she gets it right, her dad is potentially stranded and she calmly goes “dad!” It just didnt fill into the movie well, another 5 or 10 minutes of screen time on that plot line and it would knock this movie up the ranking by a LOT. Also, wasp was AWESOME in this movie!

Is it possible that there's one Kang that created all that tech we see throughout these movies?

13:15 Spider-Man Homecoming was written by writers hired by Marvel Studios, not Sony. And Jon Watts specifically said that he chose that 8 years later date based on advice from MARVEL, not Sony. Of course we now know that date to be wrong, but we can't pin the timeline inaccuracies on Sony for a film that Marvel wrote, and filmed, when sony only distributed it.

So you know how a lot of people think Marvel are gonna reset everything after Secret Wars? Yeah I really hope they don’t do that and I’ve found a quote somebody said regarding this form of story telling Quote: Stories where the world ends and a new one is created are trash. It makes all the struggle to save the old world pointless. I have no connection to this new world and thus no reason to be satisfied by it. This basically sums up why I don’t want them to reset after Secret Wars.

It has to be 2027 since Cassie stated that she was 6 in 2015. Reed stated that she is 18 in this.

12:33 My summation is theres no proof she’s 18 in the film, just an out of universe interview by the director. Ignore it

This Kang is the One Who Remains, except in this timeline he dies instead of getting out.

Are you drunk with the Peyton Manning line? lol he definitely had one too many for him to say the timeline gets thrown out the window but great video as always!

2:23 ok but time works differently in the quantum realm. For all we know, they came out months or years after they went in

At this point marvel needs to hire you to map the timeline bc you do a far better job than them 😭👏

what if "QUANTUMANIA" is not happening on our 616 timeline -just a thought

17:09 It was too weird for critics & general audiences. It lacked the realism edge most MCU films have because that was their niche. Bring superheroes to our world. Iron Man is “What If Iron Man Existed in the Real World” thats why it was a hit. Its taking from the influence of Chris Nolan’s The Dark Knight. The “how would this be possible” Quantumania defies this premise. Where the first 2 Ant-man films had a lot of realistic application, this film doesn’t. The Quantum Realm didn’t feel believable. I liked the film but the reason the MCU is successful because it forced audiences to suspend disbelief by trying to make it applicable in our reality its one of the reasons some ppl prefer Marvel over DC. No made up cities, Spider-man is swinging in NYC & people can relate to it. You can arguably say Raimi Spider-man went along these lines Overall Quantumania was super nerd x9000 its probably the most comic book MCU film

There are 3 things about Quantumania that I concluded after watching both the movies and your video: - Kang is so freaking good, he may even dethrone Thanos in the future! - Cassie frustrated me a bit, especially Kathryn Newton's performance doesn't help her shine either. Also her intellect level is weird because in the comics, intelligence isn't one of her forte, but she could make a device to enter the quantum realm herself? There are only 3 certified child/young genius in the MCU that is consistent with the comics and those are Shuri, Peter Parker and Riri Williams. We never have any evidence that Cassie is super genius (she isn't even related to the Pyms/van Dynes) and bam she made a quantum realm device and the Stature suit herself? What? (Also after watching the movie I think I prefer Emma Fuhrmann as Cassie) - Peyton Reed can't do math and we all (us and MCU) suffer.

11:07 Im just gonna find a PDF online like I did the Wakanda Files book

One of the funniest videos you’ve ever made 😂😂 mans must’ve been drunk

I don't understand why they recreated darren's face in 3d when they could've juste stretch it on the 3d model. I personally tought thought the movie was okay, it has plenty of elements that did not work together, like kang and modok working together and the creatures of the quantumn realm were really weird. It did have some good dramatic writing at some places but at the end of the day i just found it was really wack

Yeah man I love you

He isn't dead because this kang is Kang the conquer.hes the main kang

11:02 WELL

Cbchggbfhgghghbgbv 12:26 we can’t ignore the “6 years old” dialogue lmfaaaaaoooo, we’ve gotta address it

1:50 the date is July 29th

Peyton Reed Vs Homecoming: Dawn of Continuity

13:32 - That "anyway" sounded more like "I wanna kill Peyton Reed" 😂

I still think she starts 17 in the movie during the quotmanina she turns 18

Disregarding what Peyton Reed said in the interviews, maybe 18 year old Cassie said she was 6 because Scott and Hope returned to a different timeline where the attack happened earlier?

17:35 and 17:55 what? Ant-man and the wasp is higher than the original? I never noticed!

18:20 Thor The Dark World is criminally underrated I never got the hate