When Fanfic Authors are Jerks...

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tonka joey

tonka joey

2 ай бұрын

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@lizanna6390
@lizanna6390 2 ай бұрын
Story is marked as finished but the final chapter is... abandoned. PUT THAT IN YOUR SUMMERY
@veggieboysupreme
@veggieboysupreme 2 ай бұрын
It has happened to me so many times it is not every funny
@starlydonati2008
@starlydonati2008 2 ай бұрын
I thought a fic was going to have 21 chapters, they said so in their notes, but then it ended a chapter early and was marked complete. I still love that fic, (it’s one of my favorites) but I’m still off kilter thinking about it.
@yes3801
@yes3801 2 ай бұрын
Throwback to when I used to use Wattpad and this would happen SO MUCH for no reason 😭🙏
@perpetualsick
@perpetualsick 2 ай бұрын
I don’t mind reading abandoned fics but I want to KNOW they’re abandoned :(
@leena6615
@leena6615 2 ай бұрын
Like there’s literally a tag specifically for that and they just refuse to use it
@snowyvoidproductionsxx
@snowyvoidproductionsxx 2 ай бұрын
When they act like their personal headcanons about the characters are fully canon, and are aggressive/mean about it
@hannahmetzger4880
@hannahmetzger4880 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I agree. Like, for example, just because some people headcanon Alastor from Hazbin Hotel as completely sex repulsed, doesn't mean that _I_ have to. I headcanon him as demisexual or greysexual. Like I mean, _come on,_ people. :P. And if I wanna ship Alastor with Angel Dust, Vox and Lucifer, and read a ton of smut fanfics with the tag Non-Sex Repulsed Alastor in them, then by God, _LET ME DO THAT, DAMNIT!!!!_ SHEESH, I am NOT hurting anyone else by doing these things!!!
@GraveyardMaiden
@GraveyardMaiden 2 ай бұрын
Bruh I had an ex friend tell me to go kms bc I used to ship an OC with a character they shipped their OC with. Same person went onto harass voice actors from some indie project bc the characters they were voicing got engaged and they shipped their OC with the male lead.
@snowyvoidproductionsxx
@snowyvoidproductionsxx 2 ай бұрын
@@GraveyardMaiden That is like 50 levels of toxic wtf
@PhoebeTheFairy56
@PhoebeTheFairy56 2 ай бұрын
​@@hannahmetzger4880 are all of those people shipping him actually writing him as aspec though or are they making him allo in the fic. Bc from what I've seen (with a different aspec character) the latter tends to happen a lot more, unfortunately.
@hannahmetzger4880
@hannahmetzger4880 2 ай бұрын
@@PhoebeTheFairy56 I don't really know, man. I haven't read all the fics shipping him. I think I've seen a ton that do it pretty well, at least in my opinion. :P.
@zenit0
@zenit0 2 ай бұрын
Wasn't there one fanfic where the author decided to put so many random words and pairings in the tags, that this fanfic appeared in almost every fandom? What a ... strange move
@gabbithealicorn7327
@gabbithealicorn7327 2 ай бұрын
Ah, Sexy Times With Wangxian…
@Pipkiablo
@Pipkiablo 2 ай бұрын
And there were random tags like 'chairs' in it to artificially extend the tag list. XD I've actually seen screenshots of the tag list used in games of the, "zoom in and the first one you see is how your year is going to go" variety.
@zenit0
@zenit0 2 ай бұрын
@@Pipkiablo That's wild😂
@GrianFan17
@GrianFan17 2 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure that’s the exact reason why there’s now a tag limit
@IExistAndMyNameIsKawaiiAngel
@IExistAndMyNameIsKawaiiAngel 2 ай бұрын
​@@Pipkiabloapparently I'm going to die from vacation lol
@AmongUs-fk6tf
@AmongUs-fk6tf 2 ай бұрын
i once read this hamilton office fan fic and the characters got kidnapped, tortured, and r*ped and it wasn’t tagged it just came out of nowhere and im forever traumatized 😭
@Pipkiablo
@Pipkiablo 2 ай бұрын
Even if I didn't have something like that tagged because I considered it too minor in the grand scheme of a massive, multi-chapter fic or didn't expect to include it until the story led me there, I always ALWAYS warn people in the chapter's author notes so they have some warning, even if it wasn't tagged. I don't understand why it's so hard for some authors to warn people about triggering content.
@AmongUs-fk6tf
@AmongUs-fk6tf 2 ай бұрын
real it’s been like 3 years and im still traumatized 😭😭
@repage_
@repage_ 2 ай бұрын
damn, not even tagging r*pe. are they desperate for their fic to get attention?
@veggieboysupreme
@veggieboysupreme 2 ай бұрын
That actually sounds horrible. Hope you are doing better
@platinumg.8614
@platinumg.8614 2 ай бұрын
Oh gosh. I wish tagging was more common even in fanart. People will draw a bit gore as romantic or smut and there here I "WHAT" Not every people are okay with gore and smut :))))) even more for characters that you don't think that would have.
@curlybrace314
@curlybrace314 2 ай бұрын
Oh no I remember hearing about the "my father has cancer so I'm valid to plagiarize uwu" nonsense back in the day.
@breawycker
@breawycker 2 ай бұрын
James Summerton moment
@one-onessadhalf3393
@one-onessadhalf3393 2 ай бұрын
Cave Story?
@FlareStorms
@FlareStorms 2 ай бұрын
Can't believe tommy tallarico invented AO3. His mother must be very proud
@dragonslayeralex3316
@dragonslayeralex3316 2 ай бұрын
People do this in every. Goddamn. Fandom. It's not an excuse. "But- but my father has cancer and this is thera-" "Shut up, stop with the excuses, take your story down."
@twotruckslyrics
@twotruckslyrics Ай бұрын
before that part it sounded like cassandra clare,,
@randomskykidboy
@randomskykidboy 2 ай бұрын
‘Authors’ who CENSOR the tags, THATS NOT HOW TAGS WORK. I can’t filter censored tags, STOP CENSORING THEM.😭😭
@Rubberduckie3000
@Rubberduckie3000 2 ай бұрын
I know it's so annoying 🙄. Like this isn't TikTok, you won't get banned for saying killed
@Zyvear
@Zyvear 2 ай бұрын
Omfg exactly! Screen readers also have a difficult time reading text when it’s censored, so people who need them to read might not notice the tag if it’s censored. Censoring tags defeats the ENTIRE purpose of tagging fics!
@IceFireofVoid
@IceFireofVoid 2 ай бұрын
I'll do you one worse. I came across multiple smut fics written about real people who said they didn't want to have that sort of stuff made about them. Their names were tagged but censored so it wouldn't show up if people searched for that fandom. You'd just know what it was if you stumbled upon it via its uncensored kink tags.
@mchjsosde
@mchjsosde Ай бұрын
That's so weird. If you're going to be that willingly creepy and invasive why even post it to the Internet? That's a genuine question but I also feel like it answers itself unfortunately ​@@IceFireofVoid
@IceFireofVoid
@IceFireofVoid Ай бұрын
@mchjsosde I think there's a serious issue where people don't view content creators as people. They view them as things or fictional characters. And by dehumanizing them like this, they justify violating their boundaries. After all, a fictional character can't get offended. It goes the opposite way too with people who idolize content creators or celebrities and think they can do no wrong. Humans naturally have flaws, but an object or character can be made to be perfect.
@Mothcat.
@Mothcat. 2 ай бұрын
I hate multi fandom oneshot collections please just separate them it is so messy
@chocobear4078
@chocobear4078 2 ай бұрын
yes oh my god its annoying
@perpetualsick
@perpetualsick 2 ай бұрын
I always feel kinda guilty for being so genuinely frustrated over them, so I’m grateful other people find them just as irritating as me.
@depthstrider68
@depthstrider68 2 ай бұрын
​@@perpetualsickMe too
@spacecadetkaito
@spacecadetkaito 2 ай бұрын
What is even the point? The number one way to guarantee that i'm not reading a story in whatever fandom im actually looking for is to smother it under a bunch of other crap i don't care about. It feels like whoever writes them doesn't know how to use the website and thinks you're only supposed to post multi-chapter stories or something.
@brkli1485
@brkli1485 2 ай бұрын
@@spacecadetkaito i think they do that because they want to get as many hits and kudos as possible
@completely_original9760
@completely_original9760 2 ай бұрын
my most "controversial" opinion is probably that ao3 should ban people for intentionally mistagging/undertagging dead dove content. it feels like it's EVERY MONTH that a surprise corrective r*pe fic pops up in a lesbian ship tag and it pisses me off every time. ao3's best feature is transparency. even if you write the most vile shit imaginable, you're free to post! ..... AS LONG as you're TRANSPARENT about what you're writing. anybody who hides dead dove content from their tags to trick unsuspecting fans into clicking is doing so MALICIOUSLY and should not be welcome in fandom at all. especially people who specifically do it in attempts to trigger minority groups it's just so frustrating!!! i consider it a type of troll, because you have no way to win. if you give any attention to them at all, they get what they wanted --- which THEY WILL GET because people spread the word when there is harmful content in tags. genuinely disgusting behavior
@catdownthestreet
@catdownthestreet 2 ай бұрын
Oh my god, so I'm not the only one who's experienced this! It pisses me off too. And I completely agree with your point about transparency with writing and tagging. The people undertagging their CR works are intentionally trying to bait people into reading their works and punish them in a sense for liking the ship.
@giaobr168
@giaobr168 Ай бұрын
this is absolutely against the site’s policy that says the tags must be accurate, and you can report a fic for doing this
@jodrako4341
@jodrako4341 12 күн бұрын
Really, like authors can chose to not use warning tags (r*pe, underage, violence, major character death) for spoiler reasons and stuff but if they do they should tag "creator chose to not use archive warning" so you know there could be *something* But what you said isn't even that, that's just being a shithead.
@abiean222
@abiean222 11 күн бұрын
i once read a fic that had self harm in it that wasn't tagged and it fucked me up mentally. i have serious issues regarding such things and i avoid fics like that for a reason. not tagging common triggering topics is actively harmful and i wish those authors would understand that.
@catdownthestreet
@catdownthestreet 11 күн бұрын
@@abiean222 I'm so sorry that happened to you, I wish you the best of luck in avoiding those things from now on
@captainpalegg2860
@captainpalegg2860 2 ай бұрын
the “writing a pairing as platonic and then constantly bashing people who ship it romantically” hit me really hard because, on some level, i see an akumatized version of myself in that. i personally wouldn’t be comfortable writing romance or smut, and if you aren’t either, it’s totally fine to leave a note explaining as much-but only if you can be nice and civil about it.
@roul4842
@roul4842 2 ай бұрын
honestly, same.
@honeybun8823
@honeybun8823 2 ай бұрын
Generally I think keep your opinions to yourself about ships unless it’s smth like incest or pedophilia (Granted you still don’t need to share your opinion but I think judging at the least is fair)
@Cinnamonraisin_Bagel
@Cinnamonraisin_Bagel 2 ай бұрын
usually i just filter out smut and the ships i don't like and move on (though sometimes i get really annoyed if a fic looks good but theirs just one ship i absolutely hate but i just move on)
@starlydonati2008
@starlydonati2008 2 ай бұрын
Idk. I think venting about how annoyed you are about something being popular and not your taste, so long as you give proper respectful warnings should be fine. Just as people are allowed to like what they like, they should be able to dislike what they dislike. It should be kept in a separate area from the place for the people who like that thing, but I think it’s fine for people who don’t like a thing to gather just as much as those who like it, so long as they don’t disrespect each other for their fandom opinions. Though I do wish people would be willing to explain their rationale. Sometimes I don’t get why they feel the way they do and I get curious.
@honeybun8823
@honeybun8823 2 ай бұрын
@@starlydonati2008 I agree, I think the issue is when instead of like wanting to talk about why u dislike smth or have a dialogue ig about it you just trash on anybody who likes what you dislike and call them a horrible person and are completely closed minded about any of it, like even if it sounds crazy to u them liking that thing doesn’t mean they’re a horrible person.
@plutovy
@plutovy 2 ай бұрын
When people use “Don’t like it? Don’t read it!” As an immature excuse, yes I agree with the “Don’t like it? Don’t read it!” When it’s used reasonably, but when it’s used when the author didn’t tag anything about the things I didn’t like in a fic so it’s just like a jumpscare! Then when I ask them to tag it properly and how I didn’t like that they didn’t tag it they just go “Don’t like it? Don’t read it!” 😭😭😤
@LadyPsychic
@LadyPsychic 2 ай бұрын
I agree with you. How are you supposed to know not to read a fic when it's not tagged properly?
@flareongirl3606
@flareongirl3606 2 ай бұрын
I know someone on the Watters in the Yugioh fanfic side who uses that excuse CONSTANTLY! Especially when they write really not good fics like corn of the Yugioh Sevens characters (who are like 11-13) and a Yugioh Vrains Datashipping fic where there’s a massive age gap. I can’t ship Datashipping without thinking about it. And I know this person (we haven’t had a single conversation but I have seen their account) because I use the same fandom tag for some of my fics and that’s how I mostly found out. And I even commented on some of their books before I figured out and I want to take back all the comments I placed! (Sorry if I ranted for too long)
@explodingpikachu7475
@explodingpikachu7475 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. "Don't Like, Don't Read" translates to, "I'm a sick bastard who traumatizes people for my own amusement, and there's nothing you or the site can do about it."
@yukiandkanamekuran
@yukiandkanamekuran Ай бұрын
thats definitely meant for stories and content that ARE properly tagged. It's supposed to be for people who bitch even after the tags are put in place.
@ursulajoni15
@ursulajoni15 Ай бұрын
Oh yeah I fully abide by don't like don't read but that's what tags are for and like it doesn't even just apply to dead dove do not eat or NSFW tags. As an example I would be really annoyed if I went into a fanfic expecting it to be in the original media's time period and read it only to realize that it was a modern Au that they didn't bother to tag as such
@moonbeamsun9066
@moonbeamsun9066 2 ай бұрын
When I was in the Minecraft Story Mode fandom, I saw a young author who was writing a self insert fic (it was just her going into a video game she liked and she was just having fun) get bashed by a troll who told her that her writing sucked and cursed her out. Fortunately the fandom on the site was very supportive and everyone else rallied around the author, gave her a bunch of encouragement and compliments, and chewed the troll out for being a jerk.
@peckneckanimations
@peckneckanimations 2 ай бұрын
Awh. Glad that has a good ending. It’s so annoying when people bash others for having harmless fun.
@peckneckanimations
@peckneckanimations 2 ай бұрын
@just..the..cyllyz YES!!! She is one of my favorites!! (Oh my god all my faves are women except one I just realized)
@Blanch590
@Blanch590 2 ай бұрын
Man that sucks. Of all the rice to bash on they pick an innocent story of a kid having fun :(
@Theawesomeninja_XD
@Theawesomeninja_XD 2 ай бұрын
That's actually really wholesome. I'm glad they supported her.
@SilentBeaver
@SilentBeaver 2 ай бұрын
The MCSM fandom is honestly the least toxic of any that I've been in. It's such a chill, accepting and wanting fandom. We all wanna have fun, and write about the characters. It's cool! Heck, even I've been considering it but don't know if I should fully commit.
@peepysprite
@peepysprite 2 ай бұрын
The author _did_ warn about one of the characters having an ED and being a victim of CSA but what they didn't say was that one of the characters was going to have a major PTSD episode in the sack and that after that they were just going to _just go back to fucking_ while the narrator praises the other character for being "such a good boyfriend". The character also bragged about his ED enhancing certain sexual skills in a way that I feel could trigger urges to harm oneself. It was very strange and I'm legitimately worried that the author is being taken advantage of in their real relationships.
@Zitronen_
@Zitronen_ 2 ай бұрын
that's literally insane omg
@Cage-CatYT
@Cage-CatYT Ай бұрын
Holy crap that's.. concerning
@avacadotoast5571
@avacadotoast5571 17 күн бұрын
Whaaaaaat 💀?
@urmom7338
@urmom7338 7 күн бұрын
okay wtf
@jasperjazzie
@jasperjazzie 2 ай бұрын
once i was reading a kink fic, and there was another, completely different, untagged kink in it, and i went to the comments and saw someone else had already mentioned "hey, why don't you tag this other kink?" and the author replied "well, you came here for x kink, so you should be fine with y kink" like?? that's not how that works at all??? just because someone is into one thing that's kind of weird doesn't mean they're okay with everything else under the sun lmfao
@GraveyardMaiden
@GraveyardMaiden 2 ай бұрын
That's like saying because someone comes into a store to get a strawberry boba means they're ok with having matcha mixed in
@Pipkiablo
@Pipkiablo 2 ай бұрын
Especially since kinks are extremely weird to read about when you don't have them. Like, I didn't come here to read paragraphs about somebody's feet...
@soxnsandals153
@soxnsandals153 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, like if I'm into bananas, does that mean I like apples too just cause they both fruits?
@CoraMaria
@CoraMaria 2 ай бұрын
@@GraveyardMaiden I know what you're getting at but this is such a funny example to me because I would be so happy if I got surprise matcha in my strawberry boba 😂😅
@GraveyardMaiden
@GraveyardMaiden 2 ай бұрын
@@CoraMaria exactly like you may like that in your strawberry boba but not everyone does
@cameraman01productions
@cameraman01productions 2 ай бұрын
Honestly its kinda sad when fanfic authors are mean, like we're all here to have a good time and explore characters/stories we love in a new way and that should be beautiful
@not-so-obvious_autism777
@not-so-obvious_autism777 2 ай бұрын
Fr like I just came her for the comments I didn’t even watch the video and I’m not gonna, I don’t need to know about what all those jerkwads did
@gummibear4757
@gummibear4757 28 күн бұрын
As I always like to say, fanfics are the purest form of art.
@autistic_beats
@autistic_beats 2 ай бұрын
i heard abt this one guy who rewrote a fic bc he became homophobic (the side couple was gay)
@TheBritishDragong
@TheBritishDragong 2 ай бұрын
I can’t even lie this is genuinely funny
@UltimateDespairado
@UltimateDespairado 2 ай бұрын
Let’s write a fanfiction : Christian and Conservative edition
@Cinnamonraisin_Bagel
@Cinnamonraisin_Bagel 2 ай бұрын
i saw an author write a mlm ship but then in an authour note start to talk about not like mlm as much as wlw and i was just like :0 i'm just here to see my rare pair.
@perpetualsick
@perpetualsick 2 ай бұрын
That is iconic behavior, but also absolutely insane
@strawberrychangeling
@strawberrychangeling 2 ай бұрын
i quickly became homophobic
@elipsis7651
@elipsis7651 2 ай бұрын
7:20 That sounds like the writing equivalent of "Unfortunately, I have depicted you as the soyjack and me as the chad"
@hachi5362
@hachi5362 2 ай бұрын
It's giving Dante's vibes 😂
@BookWyrmOnAString
@BookWyrmOnAString 2 ай бұрын
Divine comedy in a nutshell
@bubblegum1366
@bubblegum1366 Ай бұрын
That one was extra funny to me as someone who did the opposite. Me and my bestie wrote a super goofy fic set in a really niche fanfic (I think there were 6 fics before ours), and we were so excited to have attracted a single fan that we wrote her into the story and let her marry her favorite character instead of killing him (it was for a horror game and he was one of the bosses).
@ChupacabraRex
@ChupacabraRex 14 күн бұрын
Literally just the Divine Comedy.
@adonii8364
@adonii8364 2 ай бұрын
I remember on one fic, there was someone commenting every chapter. They were super nice and hyped about the fic, and they would say stuff like "Omg, I wonder if blank is gonna find out about blank!" and "Is blank gonna blank?!" and the author told them "Hey, can you stop trying to write my story for me? It's annoying." and the person apologized and the author responded in a passive aggressive way. I never read it again bc that left such a bad taste in my mouth
@Theawesomeninja_XD
@Theawesomeninja_XD 2 ай бұрын
Wow...that's messed up.
@Sunlightcomingthrough
@Sunlightcomingthrough Ай бұрын
That's literally insane, the other person was just showing their support for the fic. It's not alright to speak to your fans like that.
@carimeslockdownedtree2654
@carimeslockdownedtree2654 Ай бұрын
Oof that's extremely shitty. From my experience, writers love receiving those sorts of comments and being cryptic about it. It's one of my favorite parts of commenting. If someone replied that to me, I think I'd respond with idk "I'm not trying to write your story for you. It was a way to motivate you, letting you know there's someone who loves what you're doing and engages with it actively. If it bothers you too much, I'll leave. Have fun. 👍" ... Actually, keeping that for safekeeping. Just in case.
@xXSweetieBubblesXx
@xXSweetieBubblesXx 12 күн бұрын
I do not understand authors like this. I get very little attention on ao3 (around 30-40 kudos highest being 70+ which is a good amount for me, honestly) and whenever I get comments like what you mentioned....I legit cry. Seriously. It feels so good to see someone so engaged in something I wrote and as someone who has really bad self-esteem, it just-I appreciate it so so so much and I wish I could hug that person.
@abiean222
@abiean222 11 күн бұрын
if an author did something like that to me, i'd never comment or kudo their fics again, if i read anymore of their work. just that is so rude.
@genericname2747
@genericname2747 2 ай бұрын
A fanfic writer burned my crops and poisoned my watersupply
@catboymikey
@catboymikey Ай бұрын
Fr same they killed my livestock too
@FlurryPie0
@FlurryPie0 Ай бұрын
That was me, I was the fanfic writer who burned their crops so I can confirm this
@genericname2747
@genericname2747 Ай бұрын
@@FlurryPie0 :(
@phloats.
@phloats. 9 күн бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠@@FlurryPie0I was also the fan fic writer who poisoned their water supply, and I concur
@tntrose7285
@tntrose7285 2 күн бұрын
@@catboymikey They did?
@ceeford9919
@ceeford9919 2 ай бұрын
My Biggest author was a jerk moment was when the author asked readers for possible characters to ship the Protagonist with cause they were having trouble deciding. And when I gave my candidate, the author copy pasted my comment into their next chapter and had the characters react to it and bash it. Then in the next chapter after that, the protagonist and character were now spontaneously related via an OC that no one in the story knew existed.
@user-xc8zd1fg1c
@user-xc8zd1fg1c 2 ай бұрын
Wow...that's awful!!! I've read stories where characters react to things, but 1. The author didn't have your permission, and 2. It's so negative! They could've just said no! I'm so, so sorry that happened, I might be getting a little worked up, but I hope that person either apologized and/or stopped being an a-hole, or you blocked them. You deserve better, here's a heart emoji: ❤
@ceeford9919
@ceeford9919 2 ай бұрын
@@user-xc8zd1fg1c Thanks. And they never apologized. Especially since there were others in the comment section egging them on. However, I do think the author deleted their account cause when I looked it up out of curiosity years later. I couldn't find neither the story or their account.
@Daelyah
@Daelyah 2 ай бұрын
Wtf??? I'm sorry you went through that, some people are just too petty... 💀
@perpetualsick
@perpetualsick 2 ай бұрын
The lengths some authors go to is absolutely insane but kind of funny. Like dude, why did you spend so much time getting angry over an innocent comment?? My goodness. Hope you’re alright.
@spacey1447
@spacey1447 Ай бұрын
This is so bad. Like The author just enjoys publicly humiliating people??
@NekoFaustus
@NekoFaustus 2 ай бұрын
tagging every single character who so much as shows up in the proverbial background is one of my biggest bug bears. it makes finding fic about specific characters extremely difficult, esp if theyre already not very popular in the fandom.
@MushyRoom77
@MushyRoom77 2 ай бұрын
THIS
@IceFireofVoid
@IceFireofVoid Ай бұрын
Looking for fics about a rarepair and most of the ones that pop up they just show up for 2 paragraphs as background characters in a 20+ chapter fanfic that's mainly focused on your NOTP. Why did you even bother tagging them on the fic when they are completely irrelevant like that?
@AietraT
@AietraT 15 күн бұрын
*cries in Adrian Toomes tag* One single line in chapter three of your 20 chapter IrondadSpiderson fic saying "Peter remembered that time he fought the Vulture" does not count as said Vulture actually being a character in your fic.
@johngellare3507
@johngellare3507 11 күн бұрын
I'm basically the exact opposite of this. I have a story planned out, and then have to decide if X character that's there for half a chapter should be tagged, or if he should have his relationship with Y also tagged, even though they're both in the story for like half a chapter
@EmeraldSands
@EmeraldSands 10 күн бұрын
This so much. My favorite character is pretty unpopular (and was widely hated in the past) and I swear trying to find a fic in his tag that is actually about him is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. It’s like 90% ensemble casts and fics about ships between two other characters where he is mentioned once. And on FFNet there’s a bunch of bashfic where he dies and his corpse gets ridiculed or something
@fluffystuff500
@fluffystuff500 2 ай бұрын
I can never understand fic authors who are mean about positive feedback they get. Like, I'm extremely thankful for any hits, kudos, or comments I get. I'm shocked when people WANT to read my writing. And then I'll read a fic where the writer gets pissed that the comments don't say what they want them to or are too short or whatever. Buddy, you're lucky to get ANY comments, and you're mad because they aren't all made up of insightful literary analysis? I understand if the comment is something like "you are disgusting, and I hate everything about you" but when it's positive and just not eloquent, just be happy anyone said anything.
@Pipkiablo
@Pipkiablo 2 ай бұрын
I have a regular who only ever comments a heart emoji on every single chapter. It's a tad annoying when I see I got a comment and then realize it's just them, but I'd never get mad at them because in the end, they're just letting me know they read the update and approve, and I prefer a heart emoji over radio silence that makes me think no one read it.
@Blackplaaague
@Blackplaaague 2 ай бұрын
@@Pipkiablo Leaving a heart emoji is kind of like a second set of kudos, if you think about it! I prefer leaving and getting comments with some more words myself, but wanting to leave extra kudos is a classic ao3 thing, and it seems like they found their workaround!
@justaperson8381
@justaperson8381 2 ай бұрын
I treasure every comment I get
@Theawesomeninja_XD
@Theawesomeninja_XD 2 ай бұрын
Honestly same. When I got comments for the first time after the fic before it got 7 hits, I was ecstatic. I don't see how people can be upset just because people don't say exactly what they want to hear.
@perpetualsick
@perpetualsick 2 ай бұрын
I have made an attempt to leave comments more often on fanfics I really enjoy and authors are always so happy about it. It’s not like I’m giving them much either! Most people just get excited to see engagement.
@KanetheGoofster
@KanetheGoofster 2 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say the authors are jerks but those "fuckton fandoms crossover oneshots" appear that have like 5 chapters and 29 different fandoms and none of the chapters have the fandom I'm looking for, it just annoys me, like I need to start blacklisting crossover fics 'cause of this sometimes. Just make different fics for different fandoms unless said oneshots ARE crossovers. I also don't like when request one shot fics tag stuff that aren't in chapters yet (like a pairing that they haven't made a oneshot of yet) like tag it if you actually wrote it in the fic, please. This is especially in rarepairs, like I finally find a ship with my rarepair, turns out it's a oneshot fic thing and none of the chapters have it, it's just one of the things the author is willing to write. But rather than blocking I'll just comment a request or something, this one is more of a pet peeve.
@Pipkiablo
@Pipkiablo 2 ай бұрын
I already blacklist crossovers due to these kinds of shenanigans. Sometimes I miss a good fic that was tagged like a crossover even though the things that they were crossing over technically took place in the same universe, but I'd rather that than have the entire feed be nothing but a crossover where your preferred fandom is only a footnote.
@mycomnithegreat434
@mycomnithegreat434 2 ай бұрын
Right? Not so hard to have different story collections, like "PJO one shots" or "MLP one shots". Or use the actual collection function, that way people can pick out which they want to read
@ElsaSnowQueen
@ElsaSnowQueen 2 ай бұрын
Ugh. It makes me feel so bad that I HAVE to blacklist crossover fics every time I wanna read something because like. EVERY fandom I'm in gets flooded with the things!!! And I miss out on the fellers in the crossover tags that have actually good stories with crossovers of fandoms I love because the "Wangxian-Sexy-Time-Infamy-Chasers" (as I've mentally categorized them) have given crossover fics a bad rep for me!!! I usually have to find the goodies on fic rec tumblr blogs that will often look over hidden gems it's so bad
@Memelord-md5hs
@Memelord-md5hs 2 ай бұрын
@@Pipkiablo it sucks because for me I usually dislike Crossovers. (mostly because its usually another fandom I've never watched/interacted with) But I've read some amazing crossovers! I lowkey want to disable crossovers sometimes too but also some fandoms I read (TMNT) have different iterations and I think they technically count as Crossovers if it for instance is tagged {Tmnt - All, Tmnt 2003} so I continue to struggle lol
@Pipkiablo
@Pipkiablo 2 ай бұрын
@@Memelord-md5hs They'd usually still show up if they were tagged, as long as they're all within the same universe enough to be similarly titled. I see this in numerous fandoms with many many continuities and games such as Transformers and Pokemon where even if you clicked a specific series or game, disabling crossovers will still show you fics that are tagged for multiple series or games that are still within the same franchise. The only time this affects it is if they're differently named. For instance, if you click no crossovers for Fallout fanfics while browsing the Fallout 3 category, you'll still see fics tagged with both Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas. If you disable crossovers while looking at Titanfall 2 fanfics, you're not going to see any fanfics listed as crossovers with Apex Legends, even though they are literally in the same universe and share characters.
@PaigeLTS05
@PaigeLTS05 2 ай бұрын
Why do I need to keep saying this: IF YOU WRITE ONESHOTS, GROUP THEM BY A CRITERIA, MAKE A SEPARATE WORK FOR EACH CRITERIA. IE, group by main fandom (always group by main fandom), group of years they're set in (good if the oneshots tie together to make a cohesive story), main pairing, ect.
@justsomedweebcat
@justsomedweebcat 2 ай бұрын
honestly just post each oneshot as a separate work ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ like unless each oneshot in every chapter has the exact same tags you putting them all in one collection is just gonna make it harder for people to search for your stuff. what if the oneshot in chapter one has exactly all the tags they’re looking for but they won’t be able to find it because the oneshot in chapter two has tags that they excluded? looking through the chapter index for what you want is pretty annoying too. if you really do want all your oneshots in a collection, well. there’s _literally_ a collection function on AO3 for this exact purpose. why post a fic and label it as a collection when you can just… make a collection????
@Lembowe
@Lembowe 2 ай бұрын
seriously, there's been so many multi-fandom oneshot collections in my main fandom and it's very frustrating, especially when I go click on one and there's absolutely 0 content for the actual fandom I'm coming from I generally think oneshot collections arent a great idea, just makes it harder for readers to find what they're looking for man
@PaigeLTS05
@PaigeLTS05 2 ай бұрын
@@justsomedweebcat Nah. Multi-chapters don't have the exact same tags for each chapter either and I've seen many multi-chapters, clicked them, and found the character I clicked it for is mentioned once in one chapter, so moot point buddy. With how I group my one-shots, when I get them in chronological order, it creates a vaguely cohesive story from multiple perspectives covering many events, and unlike normal multi-chapters, lets me insert a chapter in the middle of two others to say "hey, this thing happened between this and that" without screwing up the continuity. It's all the same story, split up across different events and perspectives. Too far disconnected to have it as a cohesive multi-chapter, too connected to have them as separate works, perfect for grouping them by timeframe and shoving the chapters in order of when they take place. Also said one-shot collection works redirect the reader to a multichapter then back again in the end notes of a chapter on SEVERAL occasions because the fics lead right into one another, but it wouldn't feel right to make the whole thing one multi-chapter fic due to the prominence of certain events, vast shifts in time and perspective, and many other factors. They can be useful to have one characters entire story in one place, or show everything that happened in a timeframe in a way that offers more freedom than a standard multi-chapter fic, but feels more connected than separate works in a collection. You just need to have the right use-case for using a work for multiple oneshots to work. Something that's rough to understand if all you've seen are those multifandom oneshot works.
@EmeraldSands
@EmeraldSands 10 күн бұрын
@@justsomedweebcat fully agreeing with you there, oneshots can stand on their own! If you want to connect them that’s why AO3 allows you to make works part of a series! This also has the nice bonus of readers being able to kudos/bookmark the individual stories.
@GalaxyBlasterNP
@GalaxyBlasterNP 2 ай бұрын
6:35 is so confusing to me. I have one person that comments consistently on literally everything I write for a certain ship, and I'm willing to give them my soul and pledge them my undying loyalty. How could someone not love a loyal commenter??
@BookWyrmOnAString
@BookWyrmOnAString 2 ай бұрын
Is your pfp Nice Cream Guy from undertale as the boykisser? If so, cool
@GalaxyBlasterNP
@GalaxyBlasterNP Ай бұрын
@@BookWyrmOnAString Eyup. I love that dumbass rabbit lol
@k0iip0ndzz
@k0iip0ndzz 27 күн бұрын
FR. My friends and I on AO3 all comment on each others fics, and I love it
@TheCoffeeCrow
@TheCoffeeCrow 8 күн бұрын
as an author, i would love to have a loyal commenter. and i very much try to be one often! (as long as i can specifically think of something funny to say, because adhd be damned im going to be the funiest comedian possible) towards the end of the fic the author started replying to me more, always thanking me for my support and it genuinely made me feel so awesome i was able to show an author i liked more support than just a simple kudos and radio-silence.
@ofcitzkat
@ofcitzkat 6 күн бұрын
fr i have a reader who comments on all my fics of a specific pairing and i’d lay down my life for them
@malenaavalos7829
@malenaavalos7829 2 ай бұрын
"Fanfic cringe compilation" books in Wattpad are the worst. They just foment harrasment towards authors that are clearly children I saw one that was exclusively dedicated to Hazbin Hotel and it was awful, they kept harrassing little girls for writing charlastor (it seemed as if the author had a personal problem with that ship, she acted worse when she was reviewing charlastor fics but then when she reviewed radioapple fics she soften up her language cause she liked radioapple), even making memes about one of the author's house getting burned down and then excused everything with 'dark comedy'
@queenofqueen-4598
@queenofqueen-4598 Ай бұрын
I write on Wattpad a little but still (moving to AO3 as we speak) and I HATE those books!! If you have an issue with someone’s writing, keep it to yourself or maybe give them advice on how to become a more practiced writer. It’s not that hard to click out of something if you don’t like it
@IceFireofVoid
@IceFireofVoid 10 күн бұрын
@malenaavalos7829 I once used a wattpad cringe fic compilation as a recommendation list lmfao the person was acting like everything there was terrible but they described it in a way that made it so inviting instead because I was into all of that.
@bored_potato
@bored_potato 19 сағат бұрын
Man, the people who hate the charlastor ship in hazbin hotel can (not all of them thankfully) be ironically toxic as hell. What's funnier is that after season 1 came out, pretty much every charlastor shipper with a decent head knows their ship is never gonna be canon but that's okay cuz that's what fanfics are for. But good grief, the amount of double standards the fandom has for people shipping charlastor and radioapple. What's worse is that the guy being shipped is an ace character. When he's in the charlastor ship, people hate on them for shipping an ace character. But when it's radioapple, the comments are nothing but pure positivity.
@unaesteticfrog11
@unaesteticfrog11 2 ай бұрын
I did read a story where the author tried to make people think it was fluff, and then kill all the characters in the last chapter, but at least they said that in the notes for the last chapter that there was some character death and mild gore. Like, *that's* how you shock readers!
@repage_
@repage_ 2 ай бұрын
tbh that seems like a cool fic as long as it was tagged to happen
@lucid_nightshade
@lucid_nightshade Ай бұрын
omg. was this tumoasd
@unaesteticfrog11
@unaesteticfrog11 Ай бұрын
@@lucid_nightshade No
@Sunlightcomingthrough
@Sunlightcomingthrough Ай бұрын
I kind of wanna know what the story was though
@FlurryPie0
@FlurryPie0 Ай бұрын
Tell us the title
@dantesdiscoinfernolol
@dantesdiscoinfernolol 2 ай бұрын
Tag your corn, people. I know it's the internet, and I ain't your mom, but it's super easy to pick a rating on AO3, so when I filter out explicit, I don't wanna see hardcore stuff crop up. (Geddit? Crop up? Cause- cause I censored it with corn-)
@tinyshinyfeathers
@tinyshinyfeathers 2 ай бұрын
Also remember to tag your smut with other, more broadly applicable tags than just with whatever kink you're writing! I'm here to read crack, not learn new words.
@jonathangoodwin5609
@jonathangoodwin5609 Ай бұрын
Yeah, I got blindsided with one of those kind in the Fate Fandom. Literally nothing in the tags suggested it was NSFW. There were a few references to sexual acts that were done 'offscreen', but nothing explicit. Then suddenly in the third chapter, it goes into uncomfortable detail about what one character does with two other characters butts. I had to ask in the comments if the story is gonna get any more explicit, and only there did they admit, after I was 3 chapters in to what seemed like a mostly normal story, that it was gonna gradually get more and more explicit with every chapter, and there was nothing to indicate this.
@oliviatilleman8055
@oliviatilleman8055 Ай бұрын
i saw a fic that was rated teen and then tagged with explicit sexual content. like. dude what at least they tagged it tho 😭
@twotruckslyrics
@twotruckslyrics Ай бұрын
once found some really, really traumatic smut in the gen category of a fandom and its stuck with me
@skeltheshapeshifter2697
@skeltheshapeshifter2697 Ай бұрын
There was one I saw that was tagged as "Fluff" teen or something. The actual content was them trapped in a closet with aphrodisiacs and one of them almost doing sexual favors for the other. And I'm like, that's fluff to you??
@trollkienofficial1225
@trollkienofficial1225 2 ай бұрын
The part about the - vs " " symbols for speech hit me a little, because I'm hungarian, and in hungarian books and literature, if a character is speaking it's indicated by a - so I literally have to reprogram my brain every time I write in english. And I do, I post fics. And it was really hard to get used to.
@Romych
@Romych 2 ай бұрын
Same there but from another country. I still haven't used to " " and still use -. And i dunno. Should i learnd on how to properly use " "? Does that realy so hard to read with -?
@magamen2433
@magamen2433 2 ай бұрын
I feel you, it took me so long to get used to it
@juliaabreus
@juliaabreus 2 ай бұрын
Same in Portuguese! I have a google docs with the " " rules, but it's way more asshole-y to get mad at people for using the - than just not bothering to learn how the " " works. I'm probably biased, but the - makes so much more sense!!
@SilentProti
@SilentProti 2 ай бұрын
If you find it hard, I'd recommend reading more proper books in English, it may help you get used to "..." and grasp better how to use them, bc for example you can write narration in the same line before the dialogue starts, while you can't if using -- (at least in Polish)
@YourWaywardDestiny
@YourWaywardDestiny 2 ай бұрын
@@Romych If you're writing in English, it's probably for the best, though you don't have to. It's not really for the people who have English as a first language, there are only so many different kinds of symbols that are associated with the latin alphabet, so that's just a matter or a little bit of thought about the context. The English-only people can cry a river about it for all I care, it's not like you're asking them to learn your mother tongue, just slightly adjust to another consistent ruleset. I'm more concerned about people who have English as a second language might have their OWN language differences to try to keep straight and have over-lap that makes it double hard to adjust. I mean, could you imagine if the dash was added in and it didn't follow the English convention of being cut-off or emphasized a great deal in a sentence, and it _also_ didn't follow _your_ language's conventions of indicating dialog? There's bound to be another use for the em-dash in all of the languages people speak, can you imagine the frustration that would cause? At least for those people, for English language fanfiction, using the English rules would probably be a bit of relief. It wouldn't be as much of a of a mini logic test for something that's supposed to be for fun.
@saltysunflowersugar7826
@saltysunflowersugar7826 2 ай бұрын
the most asshole-ish move I've seen in fanfiction, was this one ao3 user who wanted to post an essay on reddit about Danganronpa and misogyny but they got kicked off of reddit so they posted it on AO3. The author claimed that it's inherently misogynistic to ship two male characters together, that the writers of Danganronpa ruined Sonia as a character because of that one line where she says she's not a virgin (which is ironic because the author claims to be against misogyny yet reduces a woman's value to her sexual history), makes up plot points like Nagito faking his illness for sympathy or Kokichi being attracted to Miu just to complain about them, and then the author brings up Chihiro and the essay just devolves into claiming trans people aren't real. There's a video on youtube of someone reading this essay if you want to see it for yourself. edit: here's the link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kMB3hKRnqNuwimQ.htmlsi=mBHU14Uc-cx1dX33 also, spelling
@YourWaywardDestiny
@YourWaywardDestiny 2 ай бұрын
Clicking on that link is a gamble I'm willing to take. I'll come back with how traumatized I am.
@YourWaywardDestiny
@YourWaywardDestiny 2 ай бұрын
This reeks of a desperate attempt at trying to repress SEVERAL things on the author's part. I don't want to read too much into the words actually presented, but it's hard not considering a flag factory produces fewer flags in a year than this one singular rant did.
@veggieboysupreme
@veggieboysupreme 2 ай бұрын
DR is far from the perfect game, and the characters in the game are usually bad people, so I am dumbfounded by someone being offended of some characters doing bad things. Im sure the writers aren't misogynist- the character is.
@catdownthestreet
@catdownthestreet 2 ай бұрын
​@@YourWaywardDestiny what a brilliant way to say that a person is a field of red flags
@rulerzreachf4n34
@rulerzreachf4n34 2 ай бұрын
OH MY GOSH I REMEMBER THIS-the author was super homophobic/transphobic and also blatantly slutshamed the characters constantly??? “Not a misogynist” my ass 👀
@ericregis3912
@ericregis3912 2 ай бұрын
11:17 In the defense of this author, in my native language, dialogue is written with -...- or -...- instead of "..." It took me years to grow accustomed to the mere ideas of using quotation marks in dialogue.
@billie-ve_in_yourself6464
@billie-ve_in_yourself6464 11 күн бұрын
I didn’t know that was a thing, pretty understandable actually.
@catdownthestreet
@catdownthestreet 2 ай бұрын
Worst experience in fanfic was accidentally stumbling across a CR fic when I just wanted to read about my favorite space lesbians :( To clarify, it was literally a corrective grape fic that 1) wasn't tagged as such and 2) had the pairing I thought the fic was about tagged. The author was mocking everyone who called them out on it. This is the level homophobes will stoop to to bring queer people down...
@Daelyah
@Daelyah 2 ай бұрын
ALL the ick, I genuinely hope they wound up banned for that BS 💀
@BookWyrmOnAString
@BookWyrmOnAString 2 ай бұрын
Out of curiosity, which space lesbians?
@catdownthestreet
@catdownthestreet 2 ай бұрын
@@BookWyrmOnAString Black Swan and Acheron, HSR.
@gothgrape
@gothgrape 2 ай бұрын
​@@catdownthestreet fr honkai star rail fandom is so homophobic if you want good lesbian stories without this kind of people try dynasty sorry for long comment but I hate hate the fandom
@catdownthestreet
@catdownthestreet 2 ай бұрын
@@gothgrape thanks for the recommendation, and yeah, it's so bad in the fandom that there's a whole video about it that specifically focuses on fan reactions to that tango. the fandom is genuinely stupid sometimes lmao
@Peevee-xs4xq
@Peevee-xs4xq 2 ай бұрын
Marked as complete, ended on a cliffhanger. Last chapter was about how much they hated the media
@billie-ve_in_yourself6464
@billie-ve_in_yourself6464 11 күн бұрын
I’ve seen some marked as complete only to find out the last chapter was a notice about how the fic was discontinued.
@Peevee-xs4xq
@Peevee-xs4xq 11 күн бұрын
@@billie-ve_in_yourself6464 WHY DO THEY DO THIS
@sunsetter4940
@sunsetter4940 5 сағат бұрын
That must've been awkward
@lyraenza
@lyraenza 2 ай бұрын
This one is very specific to my experience so it doesn't really apply but I want to share anyway. I was reading a fic where a character as a lesbian coming out scene with a friend and her friend said something along the line of "I knew already you never had any interest in boys, but I was waiting for you to figure it out yourself". Which sent me right back to the one time half of my classmates ganged up on me asking why I didn't want to date some guy. Their conclusion was that I had to be a closeted lesbian (which I denied). I get they were trying to be supportive but 10+ people pressuring an anxious mess for an answer was not a good move. And later in the year, a girl was asking me if I was a lesbian which led to an even more awkward exchange. People should not assume that a lack of interest in even one person of the opposite sex means that you're gay. I just want to be aromantic in peace 😭 Edit : a clarification in the replies cuz I ran out of space
@juliaabreus
@juliaabreus 2 ай бұрын
I see you, but that was a really normal exchange? Like, "I was waiting until you were confortable saying anything, so I didn't project my idea of you as your responsibility". I'm also on the aroace spectrum, so when I tell it to friends some say "are you sure you aren't a lesbian?" and yes it can be annoying, but most people just don't know about aromanticism and asexuality, and most people will understand if you explain a bit more, specially if they aren't kids. Also, how people see us in their head isn't our business, everybody assumes stuff.
@IceFireofVoid
@IceFireofVoid 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I am ace and I didn't find this out until my mid 20s but apparently my entire family assumed I was a lesbian and my mom had had a sit down with my younger siblings to...prepare them? For the day I would have a girlfriend. Yeah that day is not coming. But it's nice they were supportive I guess? Basically "He's a little confused but he's got the spirit"
@veggieboysupreme
@veggieboysupreme 2 ай бұрын
This. Not everyone is going to want to be in a relationship so soon. These things take time, and others need to respect that.
@rainpooper7088
@rainpooper7088 2 ай бұрын
Figure out what, their sexuality? Seems like a pretty neutral thing to say if it was really worded like that tbh, unless they were outright making assumptions other than her disinterest in boys being a general matter of sexuality. Of course it isn't always and people just love to jump to conclusions in this regard, but that's why shutting up and waiting for the person in question to say something when they're ready is the right move. I get it, allonormativity sucks and us aros and aces never get any consideration at all when it comes to shipping, but even as an AroAce person myself who has been assumed gay on several occasions, this particular example doesn't really sound that bad. Sad to say of course, I'm pretty sure it's true, I just have seen A LOT worse in this regard.
@lyraenza
@lyraenza 2 ай бұрын
To clarify : it wasn't the fic author's fault that their words resonnated with my experience in a pretty bad way. I just needed to vent about it because when I mention the half of classmates pressuring me thing, my family and friends think of it as a funny story without trying to understand how I feel about it.
@cynthiaanderson6410
@cynthiaanderson6410 2 ай бұрын
Some straight people see themselves as the default so they don’t tag F/M. When you exclude it a few of them will pop up
@catboymikey
@catboymikey Ай бұрын
Fr like usually I filter out f/m works (cuz I'm a gay guy) it's so annoying like TAG THAT SHIT DAWG
@brimalt
@brimalt Ай бұрын
when you're a gay guy and find a x reader thats "gender neutral" and then it uses female terms like bro...
@ahmadalimi9784
@ahmadalimi9784 Ай бұрын
​@catboymikey lol what you're incapable of reading about straight relationships because you're gay?
@LL-tr5et
@LL-tr5et 17 күн бұрын
​@@brimalt RIGHT. i HATE how almost all x readers are aimed at female audiences
@johngellare3507
@johngellare3507 11 күн бұрын
Well, being straight is kinda the default. If it wasn't, we wouldn't be a species. 97% of people worldwide are straight, so...
@tsifirakiehl4250
@tsifirakiehl4250 2 ай бұрын
I once read a fanfic that was intentionally badly written for the purpose of trolling. It was really funny-until the author got some comments saying the fic was badly written, which was, you know, the whole point of trolling. However, the author got upset that their trolling was successful, and the last chapter was just them insulting the readers because how DARE we give them the reaction they were begging for by saying that this deliberately badly written fic was badly written and we’re all big awful horrible meanies who take fanfiction too seriously and they give up and it’s all our fault for being such nasty meanie-pantses. Like, buddy, the whole point of trolling is to get a reaction! Why are you flipping out at us because your trolling WORKED? If you deliberately make something for the purpose of getting negative reactions, you can’t get upset that you’re getting negative reactions!
@lopanreturns7085
@lopanreturns7085 2 ай бұрын
Enoby?
@paigemosher8697
@paigemosher8697 Ай бұрын
Are you sure the negative reaction to the criticism wasn't also trolling? Because that sounds like something out of My Immortal.
@tsifirakiehl4250
@tsifirakiehl4250 Ай бұрын
@paigemosher8697 I’m pretty sure, given that a) their grammar and spelling was much better in the reaction than it was in the fic, and b) they gave up on the story after this. The author of My Immortal constantly yelled at the “prepz” to stop “flamming” and threatened not to update the story unless she got enough good “reviowz,” but she did keep updating. Not to mention c) the author of My Immortal never admitted to being a troll. If she was in fact trolling, she knew that the best way to keep getting reactions was to keep treating her fic as serious business. This author, on the other hand, ended the story with an essay that boiled down to “I was trolling, but you’re all big stupid meanies for giving me the exact reaction trolls are trying to achieve, so I’m quitting this story forever and going home; waah,” and then they followed through on quitting. My Immortal’s author may have threatened to quit countless times, but what makes her a legend among troll fics is that she didn’t quit, and she kept her writing style consistent. This author didn’t do that. If it was a final trolling move, it was a terrible one. It took away the ambiguity of My Immortal and tied everything up in a neat little bow. It didn’t bait more fan rage, it just made the author look pathetic. Heck, even Hogwarts School of Prayer and Miracles, another famous troll fic, ended with the author confessing to being a troll, but it kept the voice consistent, worked the confession into the ending rather than having it instead of the ending, and it was a “ha, gotcha,” instead of a “waah you’re so mean.” (Sorry for the essay; I have a weird fascination with the art of troll fics.)
@fillername6996
@fillername6996 2 ай бұрын
I was reading a fic and one day a new chapter was added to suddenly have one of the (ADULT) characters fall in love with a child. No hints in the previous chapter up until that moment, no related tags, nothing. It was... really uncomfortable and I never read any new chapters after that.
@bluemayo6822
@bluemayo6822 2 ай бұрын
Now this is the craziest one I’ve seen. Who does that?
@Daelyah
@Daelyah 2 ай бұрын
EWEWEWEWEWEW No tags or warnings whatsoever on any of my squigs automatically puts an author on my block list, NO THANKS!
@kitkatboard
@kitkatboard 2 ай бұрын
Reminds me of a fic I read that was about a character (TW for CSA) realizing that his late sister had abused him and that it was okay for him to be broken about it. The fic had some raunchy moments that felt justified with the themes and was pretty well written. Then they added an epilogue that was an AU where the sister didn't die and was forgiven by everyone FOR R-WORDING HER LITTLE BROTHER. A lot of people were mad after this.
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos 2 ай бұрын
​@@kitkatboardStop with the "r-word" nonsense. Write actual words. People with words blocked need you to do so and this bizarre advertiser-kowtowing self censorship prevents that from happening.
@qoyote
@qoyote 2 ай бұрын
​@@BJGvideos youtube autohides comments with certain words though, it galls me as much as you but people have no choice here
@SkullQueen33
@SkullQueen33 2 ай бұрын
If I had a nickel for how many times I had encountered fics that were tagged as a certain ship only to hate on the ship and their fans... I'll had two nickels. Which it isn't a lot, but is weird to me that happened twice, with different fandoms and pairings 😅
@catdownthestreet
@catdownthestreet 2 ай бұрын
Same happened to me, except it was so much worse. Glad your two nickels weren't earned from reading a near traumatic untagged fanfic under your favorite pairing /gen
@SkullQueen33
@SkullQueen33 2 ай бұрын
@@catdownthestreet Ouch, I'm so sorry to hear that :'( Yes, thinking of that, mine weren't so terrible. One (Yulivia from Amphibia) was only hating on a popular headcanon of the fandom about them being foster parents to another character (nothing graphic but sounding pretty petty when explaining how they never care, were awful, etcétera). And the other (Stolitz from Helluva Boss) was just a break up fic with an unhappy ending that was untagged and the author seemed to rejoice on breaking the two characters relationship on author notes, saying things like "see? This happens 'cause is a bad couple and toxic and bad >:)". ... Thinking of it, they sounded kinda hilarious because that's pretty much how they explained why they hated the ships and sounded more like immature childs throwing a tantrum than other thing
@melon_choly
@melon_choly 2 ай бұрын
omg same, i’d reveal the fics/ships but one of them is popular within a fandom and my take might be controversial since people will think I’m too sensitive (not my fault the fic was tagged with my fav ship just for it to be hated on)
@gaspshichat
@gaspshichat 2 ай бұрын
i had a fic writer get mad at me bc i didn't compliment them on what they wanted to be complimented on :( i feel bad complimenting anyone now :( edit: i am an ao3 writer so it makes me feel worse :((
@teerowawa
@teerowawa 2 ай бұрын
that sucks, i'm sorry. :/ i would say the vast majority of authors appreciate any positive response and compliments they are given(i know i would), and i hope that authors you read from in the future show you that if they respond to comments!
@YourWaywardDestiny
@YourWaywardDestiny 2 ай бұрын
Don't be put off. You already hit odds that are basically the equivalent of the jackpot (but the bad version) so what are the chances it happens again? Pretty low. The fic author must have been super young and completely unaware other people are going to be drawn to different things. 99.999% of fanfiction authors could never even dream of acting like this, so please, go make someone else's day and forget this selfish person. They wasted everyone's time and spoiled the positive interaction for themselves. Too bad, now it's energy spent on more worthwhile authors.
@veggieboysupreme
@veggieboysupreme 2 ай бұрын
Here, complement me. I promise I won't bash you. /gen
@gaspshichat
@gaspshichat 2 ай бұрын
@@teerowawa thing is i'm also a fic writer so it just hurt even more :((
@starlydonati2008
@starlydonati2008 2 ай бұрын
I can understand wanting to hear feedback on specific parts, but being mad at you for liking a different aspect is uncalled for imo.
@artfuldodgerrr
@artfuldodgerrr 2 ай бұрын
The authors that are hostile to commenter really tick me off. I freaking love when people comment on my stories, most of them are super cool and I love interacting with them. In most cases, the comments are praise and advice, I've not really come across many nasty commenters. Be grateful for your commenters, guys.
@Pipkiablo
@Pipkiablo 2 ай бұрын
Admittedly I got passive aggressively hostile to one commenter once, and I still feel bad, even though the reason it happened was because I was in a depressive slump because a beloved pet had died in a very traumatic way, my updates were slowing because of my depressive slump, and he kept asking me, "So, when are you going to update again?" if I took more than three days to update.
@null9014
@null9014 2 ай бұрын
@@Pipkiablo Nah bro pressuring for updates every three days is _CRAZY_ you should've cursed them out
@kitkatboard
@kitkatboard 2 ай бұрын
@@Pipkiablo Same, I had someone "are you even going to update this ?" once. Not even "hi", not even "I like it but...". Just felt really entitled so I just left a "when I'm done wanting to kms
@perpetualsick
@perpetualsick 2 ай бұрын
@@PipkiabloTo be fair, people who pressure authors into updating are frustrating. When it’s every single comment, I can see why you’d not be in the mood for it.
@YourWaywardDestiny
@YourWaywardDestiny 2 ай бұрын
Hey. If someone has a cute idea about how something could go in your fic, or has a head canon based on your head canon and decides to share it with you, this is what fanficion is about. If you're not going to write it in, you have exactly 50billion ways to say "not in this fic," in a supportive and attentive way that shows you do care about their attention and time and like to be a part of the fandom you're writing for. Quite literally, it's as easy as going: "Haha! Cute/funny/intriguing/interesting! I don't think I could sneak that into my fic with the way things are going, but I'm happy I'm inspiring this much thought."
@starlydonati2008
@starlydonati2008 2 ай бұрын
Exactly! I’m actually kind of doing something adjacent to that? I’ve been inspired by a certain fic, but I don’t have all the same headcanons so I’m just going to shout out the og author for inspiring a certain aspect and leaving the rest when I finally post.
@DragonLandlord
@DragonLandlord 2 ай бұрын
I'd read a HTTYD fanfic years ago, between the first movie and series, where the author named the dragons the other kids ride. Idr them all, but they were simple names tied to the colors, Astrid's was Bluebell. The author notes at the end of every chapter said the names were trademarked and she'd report anyone else using them.
@UltimateDespairado
@UltimateDespairado 2 ай бұрын
How is a fanfiction intellectual property? It’s not even by a big dollar corporation or the names are not even made up.
@DragonLandlord
@DragonLandlord 2 ай бұрын
@UltimateDespairado I pointed that out, they don't own any of it and the names weren't even made up. Just got called a bitch and blocked.
@UltimateDespairado
@UltimateDespairado 2 ай бұрын
@@DragonLandlord that comment wasn’t even directed towards you It was directed towards the author of the fanfiction
@No-longer1
@No-longer1 Ай бұрын
…please say this wasn’t an adult. I'd expect this behaviour from a younger insecure kid
@ExtremeWreck
@ExtremeWreck Ай бұрын
@@No-longer1 As someone who's seen a lot of things, it probably WAS an adult.
@evlpunky
@evlpunky 2 ай бұрын
Once read a fic that was tagged as "humor" but the entire story was the main character's friends taking his phone while he was out of the room, reading his texts, and making fun of him for being gay.
@Rebelco
@Rebelco 2 ай бұрын
11:13 I had the inverse of it the first time I started reading fanfics in English, because on my language to indicate that a character is saying something you are supposed to use --
@thechonkyyuki
@thechonkyyuki 2 ай бұрын
Same
@GraveyardMaiden
@GraveyardMaiden 2 ай бұрын
You know... I was expecting this to be about like petty drama , but like this is mostly just common complaints.
@sfofcakey
@sfofcakey 2 ай бұрын
One time I saw an xreader smut fic with a real person who is ace
@starlydonati2008
@starlydonati2008 2 ай бұрын
Oh yikes. That’s horrible. Acephobia at its usualest.
@Daelyah
@Daelyah 2 ай бұрын
BANHAMMER on whoever pulls that shit, EW 💀
@clyde-or-monty
@clyde-or-monty 2 ай бұрын
@@Daelyahi saw 'banhammer' and thought of phighting,, the brainrot,,
@hello_ree
@hello_ree 2 ай бұрын
jadian animations?
@starlydonati2008
@starlydonati2008 2 ай бұрын
@@hello_ree That’d be my guess
@_AstaLily
@_AstaLily 2 ай бұрын
I often get offended by criticism even when I’m trying to be open to it, but I’m good at hiding my initial offence and I can talk myself into understanding they’re being reasonable.
@UltimateDespairado
@UltimateDespairado 2 ай бұрын
When I see some criticism or some people disagree with my personal thoughts of the day, I would turn off KZfaq, be upset, and search up on Google if I have bad taste or me being cringe.
@starlydonati2008
@starlydonati2008 2 ай бұрын
I think when I finally get into fic posting, I’m going to admit something similar. I’ll say “I would love feedback! I may not be the best at handling the negative stuff, but I’ll try my best to not make it your problem.” Something like that.
@No-longer1
@No-longer1 Ай бұрын
I'd say being able to come back after innitial hurt and engage with the criticism calmly is fairly impressive. I don’t know how much it applies to you, but it also takes time to learn what criticism you can and should ignore, and even more time to have those criticisms drip down from you like water from a duck feather. Sometimes readers are complelty missing the point or direction you are going towards, are stupid, or their suggestions don’t match the energy and wants you put into the fic. You are allowed to write horribly (if whatever kind of universal metric for it exists anyways), you are allowed to do things amatourishly, you are allowed to be self indulgent. Perhaps you genuinenly don’t wanna be, and that’s fine- both options are fine, actually
@dabatman5187
@dabatman5187 2 ай бұрын
Recipe for Sourdough: 1. Go to Walmart 2. Get Sourdough No need to thank me
@SnakeitySpoonGilmour
@SnakeitySpoonGilmour 2 ай бұрын
My hero
@beanestchild9994
@beanestchild9994 2 ай бұрын
Oh thank god I needed this
@Wemfsh
@Wemfsh 2 ай бұрын
Better option go to San Francisco get sour bread
@lynnx4345
@lynnx4345 2 ай бұрын
I've been trying to make sourdough for so long! Thank you for finally giving me the answer to my internal struggle!
@flermit645
@flermit645 2 ай бұрын
I dont have a walmart where i live, do you have any alternatives?
@homosapien7316
@homosapien7316 2 ай бұрын
Untagged noncon. It was a fairly old fic and the author defended herself from hate comments saying she didn't know that marital r@pe was r@pe. I'm glad she learned but she never updated the tags
@IceFireofVoid
@IceFireofVoid 2 ай бұрын
Her not knowing that is a massive red flag for something in her life being very very wrong and I hope she's okay now.
@lilistuber4546
@lilistuber4546 2 ай бұрын
The author isn’t an asshole if they do it I just feel like they are. But, when authors make one shot collections (either multi fandom or single fandom) and then don’t title the chapter after the ship makes me unreasonably angry. Like i’m not going to go through your entire 10-80 chapter work just to find works about the pairing i wanted to read about. Not every reader ships the same things you do. PLUS 90 percent of the time the chapters are labeled just not with the ships!! This makes me even more angry than if the author was lazy or didn’t know how to title chapters!!!!
@TheBritishDragong
@TheBritishDragong 2 ай бұрын
Yes!! If I open a oneshot book and get met with chapter titles that don’t specify the ship, I just leave. Because that’s such a strange thing to do, and I can’t be bothered looking through all the chapters for what I came for
@kuronekochan5582
@kuronekochan5582 2 ай бұрын
I had someone comment on my bff's fic that he shouldn't post on ao3 because his fic had too many oc's in it, and that people on their wouldn't like it. and just went on and on about other non-constructive critique, and just being horrible. I ripped her a new one and explained that she was so wrong for telling people to get off the site for oc's when hundreds of authors that don't even write fanfic publish on their. some people are just so self absorbed
@LadyPsychic
@LadyPsychic 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, like there is a section on AO3 for Original works! And even in actual fanfics, OCs (if written well) can enhance a story.
@kuronekochan5582
@kuronekochan5582 2 ай бұрын
@@LadyPsychic literally, that's what I told her, beyond that she was just rude in telling him to get off the site. I looked in to her profile and saw she'd never published anything on AO3 either, it was crazy
@catboymikey
@catboymikey Ай бұрын
What the heck?????? That's so dumb like let ppl write how they like goddamn
@fabianzimmermann5495
@fabianzimmermann5495 2 ай бұрын
There was a fanfic author who wrote a few stories in a fandom and then created a seperate story, where he decided to shit talk the bad fan fictions of the fandom. He went out of his way to search for bad stories, named their titles and the authors and then just ripped the stories apart in an extremely disrespectful manner. The fandom mostly consisted of younger people, as it was from a kids show, so no surprise that some stories weren't good, but that guy didn't seem to care about that at all and exposed these stories, just to trash and insultingly obliterate them, when the person who wrote them is most likely just a young teen. Also the guy had some specific headcanons about the lore of the fandom and went nuts everytime someone went against that, despite this thing being completely open to interpretation. I mean, just imagine being very passionate about a tv show and you write a fanfic about it. You are young and inexperienced, so you aren't very good at it, but you're proud of it. And then you see your profile name tagged in someone elses story, you take a look and see that some random dude shit talks your story for no reason whatsoever. Do you know what that does to a little kid, when their passion project just gets destroyed like that? Stopped reading that guy's stories after that and I wouldn't be surprised if he got reported or something among those lines, because he just kept doing this.
@ravioliis_
@ravioliis_ 2 ай бұрын
I have 3 major pet-peeves when it comes to fanfic authors: 1. In progress, abandoned, or otherwise unfinished works that are marked as completed. It's even worse if there's no indication in the tags or summary that the fic is unfinished. I came here expecting a full and complete story, not 50% of one that hasn't been updated in 4 years. 2. AUs/crossovers of another piece of media that is not tagged properly. I always have crossovers filtered out yet I still run into AUs that are more the other fandom than the one I'm searching in. 3. Oneshot collections that don't have any sort of descriptions or chapter guides to figure out which tags belong to which story. If I can't figure out what tf I'm about to read I'm just straight up not gonna read it. This problem is especially egregious with month-challenge collections. "whatever-tober day 23" tells me nothing; give me something, anything to go off of. And multifandom oneshot collections are just an abomination.
@lilyd8908
@lilyd8908 2 ай бұрын
10:20 oh my GOD this happened to me once. Fic was tagged as Ship A, a favourite of mine. No other pairings were mentioned. Then the whole fic was basically bashing on a VERY OOC version of one character in Ship A-so that the other character could leave them and get together with someone else to form Ship B. Which was my NOTP. I’m still bitter about it.
@sophialane3175
@sophialane3175 2 ай бұрын
There's a fantastic author on Wattpad that had this zombie Apocalypse book that was fully finished and free on Wattpad... I read most of it and then fell out of my zombie phase, came back to it like two years later, and now half of the first book, and all the rest of it is on patreon😢 I miss reading it. Fantastic author and series, but I can't afford it now so I guess I just have to leave my mind wondering
@REDFRLegend
@REDFRLegend 2 ай бұрын
Something similar happened to me but with 13 books of the same author! I can't remember what any of them are called, so I can't look them up!
@catdownthestreet
@catdownthestreet 2 ай бұрын
I respect the hustle but that's just disrespectful to the readers... if they wanted income they should've made the story completely available for free and made Patreon optional if readers wanted/could afford to support them
@honey_Bee1333
@honey_Bee1333 Ай бұрын
I think I know which fic you're talking about! Maybe. I found a zombie fic a few years ago and loved the beginning of it! Then all of a sudden around chapter 10 I couldn't read any further and had to pay! I remember feeling so let down :/
@IceFireofVoid
@IceFireofVoid 2 ай бұрын
I remember there was this cool dystopian fic I read years ago where the characters had special powers or unusual mutations and they were constantly monitored by the government who saw them as dangerous, and there was some conspiracy going on behind the scenes and it was a really cool mystery story with a lot of worldbuilding and really good character writing. Until about halfway through, where it turned into a harem fic out of nowhere. All the characters who were fugitives at this point were hiding out at an abandoned house and the author started dropping a bunch of hints about all the inhabitants going at it or wanting to. And then this weird subplot where the electric guy wanted to bang a robot (genderless robot with no...apparatuses to do the deed) just completely took over the fic and I just couldn't read it anymore.
@margarita2003
@margarita2003 2 ай бұрын
How could anyone be mean to a commenter who is saying nice things about their fic? What are those people on? I get very excited whenever I get a comment lol.
@shiny_shadow_queen4283
@shiny_shadow_queen4283 2 ай бұрын
I'M GONNA MENTION MY OWN "What the fuck is this Author on?" THING! I'm in the Pokemon fandom and enjoy the Preciousmetal ship (Manga Gold/Manga Silver, but some people use it interchangeably with Hunter which is Game Gold/Game Silver) There was this one fanfic that I loved reading on FF that was very old, I would re-read it over and over as it only had like 5 chapters and was unfinished. Then, suddenly in 2020-2022, it starts getting updated! Yippie! Time to see more of my ship! But, without warning, or even an explanation at first, it suddenly becomes Mastershipping (Lance/Silver) and on top of that they made Gold abusive for no damn reason. Apparently it was because their ex who related/they related to Gold was abusive and they decided to do that for catharsis, which all fair and good if yOU KEEP IT TO YOUR SELF?? YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO RUIN A PERFECTLY GOOD AND FINE FIC FOR THAT! HELL YOU COULD HAVE DELETED IT AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FAIR! UGH!! I AM STILL MAD ABOUT THIS YEARS LATER!
@zoranadraws
@zoranadraws 2 ай бұрын
It also doesn't help that a good chunk of people who ship Gold/Silver (in either contexts) have hcs that Lance is like a dad/older brother figure for Silver... And none of this was even tagged when the first update happened.
@SilentProti
@SilentProti 2 ай бұрын
Did you or anyone comment while fic was on hiatus? Maybe the author thought no one cared for the story after so long and that's why it felt fine to "ruin it". Also you made me remember I used to read a gold/silver fic where at the end silver came to as if time travelled to the first chapter, and in the sequel having lived that life he got together with gold quickly but out of the blue started cheating with an oc, like that was the main point of the sequel story and it felt so weird??
@Cinnamonraisin_Bagel
@Cinnamonraisin_Bagel 2 ай бұрын
also sorry if im wrong but isn't silver a kid and lace a fully grown adult even in the manga
@shiny_shadow_queen4283
@shiny_shadow_queen4283 2 ай бұрын
@@SilentProti Anxious teen + didn't have a FF account to begin with led to me not commenting, and I do not remember if anyone else commented. I remember FF was a little wonky with how you looked at comments so I never really cared to look at them ALSO I KNOW WHAT FIC YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT- THAT WAS REALLY DAMN WEIRD-
@shiny_shadow_queen4283
@shiny_shadow_queen4283 2 ай бұрын
@@Cinnamonraisin_Bagel Last time I checked Lance is 19 at the LEAST when Silver comes into the manga meanwhile he's(Silver) 1 0.
@All_thegoodnamesaretaken
@All_thegoodnamesaretaken 2 ай бұрын
Any real person ship when the ppl keep saying “we r just friends” is so weird. That stuff like actually tears apart friendships
@liljatupsu
@liljatupsu 2 ай бұрын
Real person shipping is iffy in general, because it reduces the people to the level of fictional characters for the author to play around with, and makes it seem as if the shipper knows better than the actual people themselves! I watch a pair of youtubers who are really close friends, and one of them likes to make sussy jokes about it sometimes. People on twitter would actually get mad at him for "getting their hopes up", as if their close platonic friendship is somehow inferior to a potential romantic one (also is your @ a MTMTE reference?)
@babecat2000
@babecat2000 2 ай бұрын
@@liljatupsu Also makes me think of Gmm. Rhett and link are not gay for each other.
@All_thegoodnamesaretaken
@All_thegoodnamesaretaken 2 ай бұрын
@@liljatupsu absolutely agree, also no it is not. What does that stand for?
@liljatupsu
@liljatupsu 2 ай бұрын
@@All_thegoodnamesaretaken More Than Meets The Eye. It's a transformers comic
@darkacadpresenceinblood
@darkacadpresenceinblood Ай бұрын
my 14 year old larrie self would be so mad at you for this but it's so true, there's so many fictional couples to ship why do you have to go for the real ones and be weird about actual irl people😭
@acloneofmyself
@acloneofmyself 2 ай бұрын
8:24 as a fanfic author myself, i do fear copying plots off of other fics by accident, i can barely read my own stories without feeling like i have to change everything i find, but i never do that with other people’s works, like sure, there may be a few noticeable mistakes, but i just ignore it because it doesnt really matter so long as the meaning is clear this pet peeve of mine is less about the author and more about the readers, in a fic im reading the plot has sideships alongside the main plot as you do, one of which included an unpopular ship in my fandom, as far as im aware it is tagged and all and whenever the ship is like being shippy, there are often a bunch of comments saying something like “toxic ship, but ok”, if you dont like the ship, why are you reading this??? it also annoys me when someone says something has to be true because “they kin one of the characters”, just because you relate to said character doesnt make you anymore entitled to say something
@Dressup_Doll
@Dressup_Doll 2 ай бұрын
6:32, bro, I get comments from the same people on specific fics, and I always get so happy whenever I see them because I like making my readers happy (or emotionally destroying them). I recently updated a fic and got a handful of people saying that they were excited I had finally updated again, and that made my day. 11:40, sometimes, even the author has no idea where the fic is going and changed the tags/rating to reflect that. That doesn’t mean the other options aren’t true, though. Edit: Yesterday, I found that someone made an awesome blind AU inspired on the blind AU I made, so I was ecstatic all day. Screw become a real author, I’ve made it. Edit 2.0: I found something out related to my favorite character for a show, wrote a new fic, and am now on a power trip. I will do everything in my power to make this story emotional and make my readers crushed, and I don’t care how long it takes to do so.
@user-xc8zd1fg1c
@user-xc8zd1fg1c 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, for me, even the simplest reply to a comment I make on KZfaq can make my day, once the KZfaqr who made the video I commented on replied to my comment (it was also many years after the vid had originally been made) it was a positive comment that still makes me feel good when I look at it
@Dressup_Doll
@Dressup_Doll 2 ай бұрын
@@user-xc8zd1fg1cI get that feeling.
@Dressup_Doll
@Dressup_Doll 2 ай бұрын
@@user-xc8zd1fg1cI get that.
@teeteeplays
@teeteeplays 2 ай бұрын
the ship that’s tagged takes till the last chapter to be only slightly not problematic and one of the characters in the ship is with another UNTAGGED character for 99% of the story. THIS HAS HAPPENED TO ME FAR TOO MANY TIMES
@catdownthestreet
@catdownthestreet 2 ай бұрын
They could've at least tagged something like "past -insert pairing-" or "endgame -insert pairing-" but they can't even do that much
@Hugelag
@Hugelag Ай бұрын
To quote Bob's Burgers: A lie is not a twist.
@persialionheart
@persialionheart 2 ай бұрын
1:25 this is the worst thing especially when you read the summary and get so excited for it 3:59 That is just evil When I was younger I defo could not take criticism 😅 But taking criticism is so important because it's only going to help you improve. Criticism doesn’t leave my mind once I come across it and now I am glad to take the advice and change things up. That's the thing about writing for me. I want to learn more and adapt and change to get better. Criticism helps with that. Im so glad ive learned from that because not only can I take criticism for my writing, but I am so much better in taking criticism for other stuff such as my uni work. I love that other people can help me to improve in things I don't quite understand yet.
@user-xc8zd1fg1c
@user-xc8zd1fg1c 2 ай бұрын
More power to ya!
@Zyvear
@Zyvear 2 ай бұрын
12:45 It could just be because I don’t interact with a whole lot of fandoms based around real people anymore, but it is so refreshing to hear someone talk about fans going against boundaries in fanfic without pushing some sort of narrative. Most of the time, whenever I see someone bring this issue up, it’s either an hater/anti of the fandom trying to make the entire fandom look bad, or its an obsessed, parasocial, fan who is hyper analyzing a relationship between two people who don’t interact publicly anymore and trying to claim that shit like that ruined their friendship without much evidence (I’m looking at you, beeduo stans). You should absolutely follow people’s boundaries when writing fics about them and avoid giving fics that don’t any attention, but people should stick to calling out fans for violating boundaries *because they’re violating boundaries!*
@abanana_5527
@abanana_5527 2 ай бұрын
I once read a fic where in the first chapter the main character starts getting sexually harassed and assaulted by his coworkers, and is noticably uncomfortable with it, but the author kept brushing it off as him "Not being used to the attention", and the character starts acting seriously out of character, engaging in hypersexual behavior, and literally no one was concerned! The author didn't even tag it! It felt like the author didn't believe that men could go through such things, when SA and sexual harassment can happen to people of any gender, and it was very clear that was what the main character was experiencing! The author was just to bullheaded to realize it! It was so depressing and frustrating to see such a major issue treated so lightly, I had to click off!
@drakothedragon
@drakothedragon 2 ай бұрын
I was reading this ‘Valentine’s Day at the workplace’ fic that started out all fluffy and cute, and ended with untagged [sims woohoo]. It was luckily fade to black, but it made me feel really gross, especially considering how a child was in the room right next to them and heard when they were doing it 💀
@catdownthestreet
@catdownthestreet 2 ай бұрын
HELP NOT THE [Sims woohoo] 😭
@johngellare3507
@johngellare3507 11 күн бұрын
Coming from someone who's parents were, shall we say, super fucking horny, that shit isn't sexualized. Most kids, when that happens, quite literally just turn on loud music, start gaming or put earbuds in and go to sleep
@catdownthestreet
@catdownthestreet 11 күн бұрын
@@johngellare3507 gotta agree with you on that, my parents also had a healthy love life and I honestly didn't mind once I knew about it. I'm also aroace so maybe that's part of it
@sarahvanburen7819
@sarahvanburen7819 2 ай бұрын
What I hate is how in my fandom, there's these people who just go around criticizing everyone's work and dunking on literally everything...but they've never published a single story themselves! I wouldn't necessarily call this a flat-out a-hole move, but it always kinda rubbed me the wrong way that someone would comment such harsh and cruel things to writers when they're not even a writer themselves.
@scpfan753
@scpfan753 2 ай бұрын
Which fandom are we talking here?
@k0iip0ndzz
@k0iip0ndzz 27 күн бұрын
Really happy my fandom is small on AO3 😬 it’s super popular on KZfaq and I think Wattpad but on AO3, it’s SUPER small and everyone mostly knows each other
@EmeraldSands
@EmeraldSands 10 күн бұрын
My fandom has someone like this too (along with a few lackeys who follow her lead), and she’s so infamous that getting a review from her is kind of considered a rite of passage. She has posted work of her own, and it has decent technical quality but it clearly comes less from a place of love than from wanting to demonstrate how she’s so much smarter than everyone else and show her very cynical take on the source material (which is a wholesome power of friendship children’s media). She also has a blog where she posts the responses to her reviews to mock them. Wild behavior from a fully grown adult.
@futurestoryteller
@futurestoryteller 2 ай бұрын
This is like listening to gossipy 70's housewives. I swear fan fiction is like a different universe.
@shy2infinity
@shy2infinity 2 ай бұрын
6:34 This is wild to me 😅I'm on Ao3 but mostly stick to the Original's tag and I get like, one or two regulars on my stories.... And I get SO excited when I see those regulars. Like "Hi!!! Friend!!! Tell me everything that you think
@jaymartin505
@jaymartin505 Ай бұрын
Same here😂 I write a lot of Original works in addition to fanfic and i love it when regular readers comment on both or even better I've actually had readers for one fandom find a new one because they liked my fic for Fandom A that they decided to check out my work in Fandom B and found a new fandom 😂 that's so much fun 😂
@k0iip0ndzz
@k0iip0ndzz 27 күн бұрын
I’m a writer for a Fandom, hahah! I’ve got about… seven friends who comment regularly 😅
@autumn_west
@autumn_west 2 ай бұрын
A writer's group I'm in has run into the whole tagging but not actually including a fandom thing multiple times before. We politely commented and asked she removed the tag because she indicated she wasn't going to actually write something for that fandom, and she completely lost it with us - to this day, I'm very wary of multi-fandom fics
@Pipkiablo
@Pipkiablo 2 ай бұрын
Also, I agree with the commenter on those people that get mad if you see their platonic pairings as ships. One person asked me if I shipped two characters that I was writing platonically because I wrote them as having a really weird, oddly close relationship (because they give those vibes in canon). My response was, "Well I wasn't, but I have no problem with that interpretation either." And another one I forgot in my last comment, I also loathe the kind of authors and artists that call anyone who doesn't like their kind of problematic shipping an 'anti'. Mostly because from personal experience, a lot of the people using that term don't differentiate from the people who will actually harass you for liking something they don't like and the people who merely say, "I don't like this kind of ship, so I don't read it," and then mind their own business. I've seen people harassed and cyberstalked just for saying they were uncomfortable with a problematic ship and avoided it.
@NotesFromTheVoid
@NotesFromTheVoid 2 ай бұрын
Multifandom oneshots my detested. My favourite author awfulness story is one of a "reading the books" harry potter fic which plagarised another "reading the books" fic, god kicked off ao3 for either the plagarism or because reading the books fic skirt copyright laws at the best of times, then started posting new chapters on patreon (paywalled of course). They then ran out of the OG fic to plagarise, and added a weird kidnapping subplot, and according to someone who did pay for a while the fic just got worse and worse as they couldn't come up with good character reactions to the books so it was basically just reading harry potter with occasional interuptions. Absolutely pathetic, it's practically begging for a lawsuit.
@february4206
@february4206 2 ай бұрын
That one 26 y/o author who wrote a 400+ page callout doc on a 13 y/o that was upset they didn’t properly tag their smut.
@awhimsyreader9015
@awhimsyreader9015 2 ай бұрын
Wait is it that one Glitch Techs author, I remember watching Izzyzzz video about it,that situation was crazy like also the fact that the 26 y /o also doxxed the 13 y/o was just insane also because the kid was uncomfortable with the smut fic they wrote
@awhimsyreader9015
@awhimsyreader9015 2 ай бұрын
* all because
@february4206
@february4206 2 ай бұрын
@@awhimsyreader9015 yeah, absolutely wild situation. my little sister was mutuals with the kid a while back. i've heard they're doing better now.
@lindapenttinen3382
@lindapenttinen3382 2 ай бұрын
I admit, I am very bad a tagging and most of the time don't even know what's going to happen in the story until I write it 😅
@Pipkiablo
@Pipkiablo 2 ай бұрын
I felt that. The good news is tags can be updated as you go if you find a good one that you missed or need a tag that you didn't need before. But it's still a pain, especially when you don't know what to tag it as. I also have trouble because some things someone might find noteworthy might not even occur to me as something other than too mundane to bring up.
@billie-ve_in_yourself6464
@billie-ve_in_yourself6464 11 күн бұрын
So long as you are hitting the warning tags it’s fine. I don’t mind stories switching lanes from General and teen to mature and explicit so long as all the warning tags are added. I’ve seen some people add clarifications in their tags like “only dubcon because x happens.” So long as you’re trying and correctly tag the triggers, it’s all good
@ionthezeraora
@ionthezeraora 2 ай бұрын
ohh i got one i jokingly made a wattpad account awhile ago and decided to look at geometry dash fanfictions because 1. it's funny and 2. i was hyperfixating on gd (and i still am) the second most popular fanfiction was an nsfw oneshots book of other people's gd humanizations that was made completely without the original artist's consent. yeah it was. bad. one of the original artists was a minor too so that's even worse!! thankfully loafeebuns (one of the people who's humanizations were used without permission) asked to get that fanfic taken down and the author thankfully listened and removed it! still we were all pretty pissed that they would write that without permission
@segasonicsega623
@segasonicsega623 2 ай бұрын
geometry dash.... fanfiction?
@ionthezeraora
@ionthezeraora 2 ай бұрын
@@segasonicsega623 you heard me.
@segasonicsega623
@segasonicsega623 2 ай бұрын
@@ionthezeraora I've always heard the internet was a strange place..... omg i forgot the a wth
@clyde-or-monty
@clyde-or-monty 2 ай бұрын
GD fanfiction as an idea is funny but if you really think about it it could be real cool if you think moreso the cubes are their own characters fightinng against stuff
@ionthezeraora
@ionthezeraora 2 ай бұрын
@@clyde-or-monty that’s. pretty much what i do in my gd universe it’s a whole thing and i would yap about it but nobody is gonna read allat
@K.KLovelyz
@K.KLovelyz 2 ай бұрын
I once read a fairly old mha fic (written in 2020) and I left a comment along the lines of "the difference between to and too is non-existent but other than that, great fic! Looking forward to more chapters!
@Ravenbloom918
@Ravenbloom918 2 ай бұрын
I have two. The author made a x male reader fanfic and they stated that the male reader will not be OP, handsome or whatever just a normal guy. In the middle of the fanfic the male reader has an unbelievably amount of powers he was absolutely handsome, and he gets any girl he wants just by looking at them. The author broke their promise and they stated the story is better this way.
@Ravenbloom918
@Ravenbloom918 2 ай бұрын
An author abandoned their book just when they’re at the final chapter because in their words. ‘I got bored lol!’ And a fan of their book did something out the kindness of their heart finish the ending for the author. They didn’t claim ownership that the author’s book or the characters they just wanted to help. And out of nowhere the author came back, threatened to doxxed them if they don’t take down their book and sadly the fan did and everyone who read the fan’s ending of the book was pissed off at the author
@Kattlarv
@Kattlarv 2 ай бұрын
I mean... the "clickbait with false tags" is something I see *all* the time in terms of artists. Heck, on some websites there's like... a up to 80 % ratio of false tags. Because... either people are stupid, or doing it on purpose to be malicous. *Super* common with sapphic stuff. Often at minimum 50 % of the content actually contains dudes. That also goes for fanfics, but not *as* common as in art.
@gerstein03
@gerstein03 2 ай бұрын
Ooh I've got one. Someone tagged a fic with a ship I love and when I opened it and it was just "character A fires character B into the sun. Fucking obliterated" Worst fanfic experience I've ever had Also found one where it was clear the author didn't like one of the characters in a ship and cut out one of his character moments and called it a "necessary cut" which just felt very bad taste
@mariacuellar4764
@mariacuellar4764 2 ай бұрын
6:14 I admit that I do that, but because I express myself better in my mother language (I encourage the use of a translator for non spanish speakers at the very beginning, tho)
@starlydonati2008
@starlydonati2008 2 ай бұрын
I feel that’s fair. Though sometimes certain fic websites have some sort of copy lock that makes it impossible to copy and paste it into a translator. I don’t think AO3 has that problem though.
@mariacuellar4764
@mariacuellar4764 2 ай бұрын
@@starlydonati2008 no, AO3 has no problem with that c:
@nathanjarrett728
@nathanjarrett728 2 ай бұрын
Fun fact relating to the first one. The author of Re:Zero, Tappei Nagatsuki, once did something similar in chapter 15 of arc 6, "Scattered to the Sand." It's a chapter infamous for its gory and detailed depictions of very disturbing deaths. He does include a content warning... at the bottom of the page... below the chapter.
@kittykat5090
@kittykat5090 2 ай бұрын
i usually read fics from small fandoms, and it annoys me SO much when it's included in those stories that have a thousand fandoms and tags and only like three chapters. i don't want to remove crossovers outright from my search, but those fics usually force me to since they block out fics that are actually ABOUT the specific fandom i'm looking for fics of!
@LocalTorchwoodIntern
@LocalTorchwoodIntern 2 ай бұрын
I feel you!! I normally read fics for characters an actor has played where either their non existent or those come up. Its not fun realizing they stopped it BEFORE the fandom. Thankfully other characters from this actor have pretty popular fandoms but it sucks when I have such a bland choice of fics. Also does not help that one of said fandoms has been dead since the show ended and my preferred pairing has like 23 fics and 4 of those fics are in another language.
@scpfan753
@scpfan753 2 ай бұрын
When they make their self inserts universally praised in their fic and don't even try to hide that they're doing it for narcissistic purposes.
@sxnnysideup07
@sxnnysideup07 2 ай бұрын
imo there should be rules regarding real-person fics
@lavndvrrart
@lavndvrrart 2 ай бұрын
I love commenting on fics and usually write really long comments. One time I was reading this fic and leaving essay comments on every chapter. I never got a reply from the author even tho they replied to everyone else but I didn't mind. Then they put in the author notes that they don't like long comments and called them annoying- like okay???? I just won't comment on your fic then. I still feel kinda bad about it tho
@d-v1199
@d-v1199 2 ай бұрын
Wow, that author is really ungrateful. Don't feel bad for posting long comments on fanfics you enjoyed reading, because it's fun to read a commenter's thoughts and feelings about someone's work.
@jonathangoodwin5609
@jonathangoodwin5609 Ай бұрын
Double down and make the comments even longer.
@bogwife7942
@bogwife7942 4 күн бұрын
dude wtf. I _love_ long comments on my fics, so I always try to do the same for other authors! imagine having the gall to _complain_ about someone taking the time to tell you what they thought of your fic.....I would _kill_ for more comments like that 😭
@Toadstool22
@Toadstool22 2 ай бұрын
NEW TONKA JOEY VIDEOOO
@apollolewis
@apollolewis 2 ай бұрын
Multi fandom one shots are the bane of my existence but I love crossovers in the same universe 😅
@shipsarebeautiful
@shipsarebeautiful 2 ай бұрын
The best example I have is for a fic I read YEARS ago by now. It was a seemingly fresh take on the fake dating trope where the people in the fake couple were intended to be with other people by the end and use their fake relationship as a means to make the other people jealous. The author made it clear in both the tags and the notes that this was the direction they wanted to take the fic. But, by the time we got to the final chapter, the author had a last minute change of mind and completely went back on that promise to make the fake dating couple into a real couple despite the fact they had already thoroughly set up the other two promised end game ships up to as late as earlier the same chapter. It was a completely out of left field/unsatisfying conclusion that left everyone confused and annoyed, especially since it meant that the other two people that would’ve been part of the end game ships were left heartbroken due to an act of “selflessness” from one of them leaving their would-be partner to chase after the other half of the fake couple. I was so salty at the ending of that fic that it actually made me dislike the fake couple pairing and I gained a grudge towards it that I still kind of hold to this day.
@sokyl3081
@sokyl3081 2 ай бұрын
I was reading cute ship fics and I saw what I thought was a fluffy one-shot then halfway through it turned very heated, let me tell you it was traumatizing because the author wrote that about minors, I noped out and had to lay down and try to forget what I just read. The author didn't tag any warnings, or anything related and made it G-rated.
@catdownthestreet
@catdownthestreet 2 ай бұрын
Okay, that's just poor etiquette. Dark subjects and ships aren't inherently bad to write about but the authors doing it definitely need to tag and rate their fics properly to avoid situations like this. I'm sorry you went through that. :(
@f3lixie
@f3lixie 2 ай бұрын
There was this one fic I had read on Wattpad that was actually kinda excellent (rare Ik but true) and I archived it. Some time had passed and I went to read it again only to see it had been deleted. I went to the author's wall and saw ppl were asking about it .The author just said they just didn't like it that much. Ok bummed out but fair. The problems started when they re uploaded the story, but only the first chapter (mind you, no edits whatsoever) and said they would only be posting each chapter when they got a certain amount of favorites/comments/followers. (only posting chapter 3 if they got 50 favorites for example) and would post on their wall like "come on guys don't you want that 'new' chapter? 10 more comments!" p!ssed me awf badddd. never even read a fic from the fandom again
@kavinaderrow3269
@kavinaderrow3269 2 ай бұрын
So my autistic ass was like, "Here's a cool alternate spelling that's also canon." The author reported me to A03A-holes. 🤦‍♀
@kenyastarflight
@kenyastarflight 2 ай бұрын
I had one of my fanfics plagiarized -- the author tried to be clever by switching out the characters involved, but huge chunks of text were copied verbatim. Their reaction to me calling them and asking them to take the work down was to completely delete their AO3 account, so... win, I guess?
@luminekallea5891
@luminekallea5891 Ай бұрын
Personally, itd be the person who posted their suicide note with a bunch of really popular tags. I can understand feeling suicidal and wanting to put your note where someone can see it, but that does not excuse making it so unsuspecting people read a suicide note.
@Alex-tr9zv
@Alex-tr9zv 2 ай бұрын
I wouldn't necessarily call it an asshole move, but: authers who intentionally ignore a nonbinary character's cannonical pronouns. Especially when said fic has a binary trans character in it, who's treated with respect. I'm left wondering if this person had a good reason for misgendering (because I am aware that doing that to a fictional character and doing that to a real person is vastly different) or if they're enbyphobic.
@elliot4152
@elliot4152 2 ай бұрын
I'm actually so glad this isn't a bigger problem in the fics I've read, considering the amount of misgendering I see on other sites (*cough* Pinterest *cough*)
@EspiritoDeDafne
@EspiritoDeDafne 2 ай бұрын
And sometimes they defend themselves saying the character's Canon gender is "open to interpretation" Also, something that happened kind often in my country was someone making a bad fan translation of something that would get a characters gender wrong. Then, when someone would try to point out to the people using the wrong gender, they would try to argue that the bad translation is just as valid as the original material, or that they have the right to a headcanon (wich is true, but they acted as If It was canon until they had no other choice)
@Cinnamonraisin_Bagel
@Cinnamonraisin_Bagel 2 ай бұрын
that's 100% an asshole move for them to ignore the pronouns
@elipsis7651
@elipsis7651 2 ай бұрын
*cough cough* Kris Deltarune *cough cough*
@starlydonati2008
@starlydonati2008 2 ай бұрын
@@elipsis7651exactly who I was thinking. Kid can’t catch a break.
@citcoin-official2681
@citcoin-official2681 16 күн бұрын
As a writer, most of this feels like dying of thirst as another man pretends to drown because they were given a drink that was too big.
@attooned737
@attooned737 2 ай бұрын
The absolute worst I've seen an author do is delete their entire library out of spite. They were already canceling all of their series because they weren't getting the numbers they wanted (after making a big deal about how they only write for fun) and then made a whole big speech about how lucky we were that they graced us with their writing but were clearly ungrateful since their stories weren't getting huge numbers as the chapters went on, so we don't deserve to read anything they wrote anymore. It was a really weird high horse they got on
@aaal145
@aaal145 Ай бұрын
I'm yet to actually start an account on AO3, but that's a pretty extreme level of entitlement. Especially since they said they only write for fun
@tubbyqueen
@tubbyqueen 2 ай бұрын
I have a ship where I hate one of the characters but literally what is the point in being so angry with a fictional character that you block people over liking them??
@scifiwifi_
@scifiwifi_ 2 ай бұрын
Untagged smut, especially when it's nonconsensual, is the biggest one for me. Usually the people who do this are coming from other sites, but it's soo frustrating.
@jonathangoodwin5609
@jonathangoodwin5609 Ай бұрын
I encountered that once and it was especially bad cuz I was at work. Three chapters in, it suddenly starts getting slightly sexual, but not yet graphic. I had to leave a comment to ask them to let me know if it's smut and they should tag it properly so I don't accidentally read that shit at work. They told me that, yes it's going to be smut and I should have some class and not read mature fics at work. I had no way or knowing it was mature because NONE OF THE TAGS SAID SO..
@ninja_elemental1412
@ninja_elemental1412 2 ай бұрын
I read a fic once where it was about "ooh [Character A] got a love letter! I wonder who it's from!" And i was bored so i read it and around chapter 3/5 i figured it out and technically the characters had a 12 year gap and one was a minor. The author even aged them up but it was still canon compliant so they knew each other at 6 and 18 AND it was STILL messed up because they weren't aged up enough anyways. The younger one was still 16! Technically in canon the elder character was scientifically physically aged down but it's pointed out a LOT that the 3 characters that get shrunk are still mentally their actual age. In [Character B]'s defence (the one who sent the letter), she didn't know [Character A] was 28 and not 16 BUT THEN [Character A] JUST WENT "Hmm I'll think about it" And then the author went "suprise! I didn't tag this but happy femslash February" and despite figuring it out and only finishing it because it was short and I wanted to see the trainwreck i still felt betrayed.
@rowan404
@rowan404 2 ай бұрын
The first one reminds me of when I read a fic on Wattpad that ended with the protagonist committing suicide. I was suicidal myself, so it triggered me. When I told the author that she should’ve added a trigger warning, she refused to, claiming that she didn’t need to since it was fictional. Eventually, she sent me an angry DM about me being a “social justice warrior” and blocked me before I could respond. Years later, I learned about pro-shippers and realized she was one of them. (She regularly shipped incest, abusive relationships, etc. and whenever I called her out for it, she used the “it’s just fiction” excuse.)
@catdownthestreet
@catdownthestreet 2 ай бұрын
I think you mean problematic shipper, not pro-shipper. Also, incoming ramble, I like to talk about terminology in fandoms and it really shows here lol. I want to discuss this with you since you seem like you might have some interesting insight into some of what I have to say. I hope you don't mind. :) Let's talk about the original meaning for pro-ship. Also, yes, I do know that this isn't the widely used definition for the term, hence why you used it in this context. But the original meaning matters more to me, so. Here goes. Pro-shippers just like ships and don't bother people for writing fics about pairings they don't care for. They ship and let ship, essentially. Doesn't mean they think criticism isn't allowed or anything- but being respectful of other people comes first and foremost, along with an understanding that ships are fictional and thus not always relevant to what the shippers like IRL. I'm a pro-shipper, by this definition. Anti-shippers are basically the opposite- they hate shipping, and they especially hate on people for writing about certain ships no matter how unproblematic the fics/pairings are. They can't understand that fiction is a tool that can be used to write about things that would be problematic IRL. They also can't understand the difference between writing about a problematic pairing, and writing a problematic pairing in a good light that makes it seem like a good relationship IRL. Antis conflate the two and assume that anything written about a problematic topic or ship is supporting that thing IRL. Obviously there's a lot of nuance and room for both to be true in some cases, but antis can't even understand that much and resort to attack first, ask questions/discuss later. They also mask their hatred towards other people as constructive criticism, when it's really not because it doesn't help the authors they're criticizing to improve or anything. Also, yes, not all antis are like this, but for the most part people who are antis tend to be this way, at least from my experience. Generally, the term problematic shipper tends to refer to someone more like that person- someone who ships a problematic ship. Unfortunately the definition of problematic has been muddied a lot in fandoms and is often used by antis and other shippers to bash certain pairings they disagree with, no matter how normal and, by definition, unproblematic, the ship is. I personally think the general definition of problematic shipper should be people who try to police other shippers for what they like/what they write about just because these people think certain ships are bad or something. As an alternative, dark shippers could be a potential term for people who ship incest, abusive relationships, etc., like what you're saying. But I don't have any control over what terminology people use in fandoms, I just want to suggest better words for the specific things we're talking about. If you like the idea and start using these terms as well, it might lead to more people using them and thus making things easier to discuss because we have proper terminology for the specific types of shippers in fandoms. But that's just me being optimistic. :) Also, while I do agree that "it's just fiction" can be a flimsy excuse for supporting dark ships, I think it's important to consider whether the authors who use that phrase are supportive of that kind of relationship IRL, or just writing about it because they can. Remember, preferences in fiction do not always equal preferences in reality. And just to cover all my bases, if the concern here is that impressionable people will read these dark fics and think those things are okay, the simple solution is for dark shippers to tag their fics properly and take responsibility by explaining that these relationships aren't healthy IRL. And let's be honest, most people reading these fics are already mature enough to understand that without someone telling them that. What do you think? Do these terms work in your opinion? Is there anything I could improve on? I'm open to discussion if you are. :D
@catdownthestreet
@catdownthestreet 2 ай бұрын
Oh- I just realized I only responded to the latter half of your comment. Whoops. I was suicidal myself once, so I understand. Unfortunately I don't understand suicidal thoughts being triggered by seeing the subject, even though I tend to avoid it in fics. I'm sorry you experienced that, and I hope you're doing better now. That person really should've tagged it properly, but she might've been too immature to understand why tagging and trigger warnings are so important. She was definitely too immature to respond in a respectful manner, so I wouldn't doubt it. Although I would consider that she might've been on the younger side (which, yikes), and thus took your comment in the absolute opposite direction of what you actually meant by it. You definitely didn't do anything wrong though.
@BookWyrmOnAString
@BookWyrmOnAString 2 ай бұрын
"Tags are super important, label your shit properly so readers know what theyre getting into and can avoid it if they dont want to see it" is like rule 1 of proshipping. The story may not be real, but your readers are! I'm so sorry you had to deal with that, and that someone misused "proship" like that.
@No-longer1
@No-longer1 Ай бұрын
The fact she was a 'proshipper' (or was she really? The shipping of certain characters does not make one pro-ship. You'd be surprised by the amount of people that justify shipping one 'problematic' thing and demonize an another one. It’s not indicative of their stance on the debate- or fandom drama, really, that’s more what it is.) and her taste in fiction has no significance on how she was dismissive towards you. She's not responsible for you or anyone’s triggers, but considering Wattpad’s poor tagging and filter options, it’s an unconsiderate behaviour and going into your dms is just cruel.
@jonathangoodwin5609
@jonathangoodwin5609 Ай бұрын
Personally, I believe there's nothing wrong with shipping things that aren't good, as long as you are able and willing to acknowledge how bad it is and how gross it would be in reality. But yeah, they definitely should tag their shit.
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