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10 ай бұрын

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@bitterandjaded_
@bitterandjaded_ 10 ай бұрын
As someone that remembers listening to Talking Heads on cassette, with the headphones that came with my Walkman, while mowing the lawn, pretty much everything sounds better now.
@mrtim6
@mrtim6 10 ай бұрын
If you had have listened without mowing the lawn pretty much everything would have sounded better then too
@asherfilms923
@asherfilms923 10 ай бұрын
If you're nostalgic for that time, check out the koss KPH 40. They may look cheap but they sit right next to my $300 headphones, Plus they scale well on amplifiers.
@neilp192
@neilp192 10 ай бұрын
I've got a copy of TNOTBITH on cassette and it sounds incredible. Actually my favorite TH album.
@skaushi3886
@skaushi3886 10 ай бұрын
@@asherfilms923 I second your opinion . Koss kph30i sound bloody good. They teleport me back to 90s. I was forever hunting for “THAT “ sound and have various mid-fi (read below $500) cans and none sound as engaging and musical as these do
@mrsharps
@mrsharps 10 ай бұрын
I feel like this is the definitive case study on why vinyl or bit rate alone will not guarantee the best audio quality. Bravo!
@eespinosa64
@eespinosa64 10 ай бұрын
Au contraire...😂
@EricRhodeslives
@EricRhodeslives 10 ай бұрын
@@eespinosa64 🤣
@Godbluffer
@Godbluffer 10 ай бұрын
It’s a bizarre history. One of CD’s selling points upon introduction was its greater dynamic range. Then the loudness wars started, and this was completely forgotten. Then after that, the vinyl revival started, but still as a bit of a niche product for those with refined tastes, and guess what? The *less* dynamically compressed masterings were now relegated to vinyl. So I’m actually curious what the DR rating of this album’s vinyl version is, because of this one is just as compressed as the new digital versions, we will be able to conclude that vinyl is fully back in the mainstream again. 😝
@jerryscanas
@jerryscanas 10 ай бұрын
It's hardware that's gonna get you the desired result, forget the formats it's all in the hardware...
@jamesstanley7263
@jamesstanley7263 10 ай бұрын
@@jerryscanassomeone didn’t watch the video 🙄
@pixelmixture3067
@pixelmixture3067 10 ай бұрын
This loudness war is a plague … fueled by the adoption of crappy Bluetooth mono speakers and crappy in ear headphones …
@gotham61
@gotham61 10 ай бұрын
The elephant in the room that wasn’t mentioned is that the original mix was from a Sony PCM-3324 DASH recorder, which has a maximum resolution of 48k 16bit. Any version claiming higher resolution than that has been upsampled
@ksbav8r
@ksbav8r 10 ай бұрын
Exactly 👏 exactly 👏 exactly 👏 thank you. Came here to say just this.
@xentakis
@xentakis 10 ай бұрын
And you may ask yourself: “What is the dynamic range like?”
@fukyougoogle2137
@fukyougoogle2137 10 ай бұрын
I see what you did there...
@georgebarronjr
@georgebarronjr 10 ай бұрын
DR is the current elephant in the room and 800 pound gorilla. When overly compressed it ruins everything regardless of production, engineering, format or hi-fi system.
@darrylbrueckner2812
@darrylbrueckner2812 10 ай бұрын
My older brother and his friend rented Stop Making Sense on VHS back in 1987. They were cool enuff to let me watch with them. My 14 yr old brain was blown away. I remember hopping on the bus and buying Fear of Music and Speaking in Tongues on LP later that week. I still have them. What a trip to discover and work through Talking Heads' catalogue at that age. Life-long fan ever since.
@AllboroLCD
@AllboroLCD 10 ай бұрын
HUGE thing to also note is that Talking Heads have had quite the good track record as far as new mixes on new formats go, more so than most artists. The surround mixes are superb!
@gavinhall4112
@gavinhall4112 9 ай бұрын
It should be pointed out that a track being "high dynamic range" is not necessarily a universal good. It's great in a quiet listening environment, but in a car or a bus, you end up turning up the volume to hear the quiet sections, and then get your head blown off by the loud sections. It's almost like there need to be separate masters, labeled as such, depending on the use case.
@syanhc
@syanhc 10 ай бұрын
As a recording artist and studio producer, I enjoyed this quite a lot. Compression is a tool to be used delicately. It is necessary to balance dynamics between sole tracks so that they balance each other in the mix. But overall dynamic range compression can be a terrible thing if done without sensitivity. It's a testament to the engineers that recorded it and later mastered it that a live recording back in the 80s was recorded so well. Because it's usually live recordings that suffer badly under the compression tool as a producer tries to account for live variables. Anyway, it's great to watch that live Blu-ray. We forget how brilliant and innovative Talking Heads were. My fav band... Prince's Sign of the Times. Another brilliant live concert movie....❤
@mwalker2496
@mwalker2496 10 ай бұрын
John - this is the most IMPORTANT and REVELATORY video you've ever made! I couldn't understand why my original CD's sounded better than my supposed new 'Remastered' CD's and Hi Rez file downloads. It's like when we were duped into believing that digital was always better than analog in the '80's. I'm off to buy up all the cheap, original early NON remastered CD versions!
@1998mchp
@1998mchp 10 ай бұрын
Yep. Will be Rosetta Stones of playback never to be heard via streamingm and without vinyl pink noise and mastering format constraints. Good luck finding them mind.
@skaushi3886
@skaushi3886 10 ай бұрын
excellent ! my friends made me believe that “ THAT SOUND” you are not able to find in new hi res music is purely nostalgia , but I was convinced that my CDs from early 90s actually sounded better
@legrandmaitre7112
@legrandmaitre7112 9 ай бұрын
As I've said before, it's not about the format, it's about the music. In my case I have many LPs which never came out on CD - and now in 2023 I have many CDs that aren't available on LP. I think loudness wars did enormous damage to the CD format's reputation. At my age I have a pretty big collection, and for music that I really love I usually have several CD editions, often the LP as well. For me, in pretty well 90% of cases, it's the pre-loudness war CDs which come out on top and get played the most. In recent years, I've kind of developed a new hifi mentality - that my system is there to "serve my collection". As I can't have all the music I love in perfect sound then I need that can handle just about everything.
@tidysampler585
@tidysampler585 10 ай бұрын
I remember the day I first got my hands on Sony’s Minidisc. Handheld & automotive derived. That was a step up from ordinary CD’s in the late 90’s. Then i heard an SA-CD in a local hi-fi shop. Damn that was like hearing the instruments live in your ear.. Great episode 👍
@andrewbrazier9664
@andrewbrazier9664 10 ай бұрын
Sad that SACD was never adopted as the new industry standard from CDs like DVD to Blu Ray was 🙁 Those SACDs that were released were always sold as luxury products requiring very expensive niche market players 🙄
@chrisblock6697
@chrisblock6697 10 ай бұрын
I saw the movie in Ann Arbor in a theater when it came out. Nobody was in their seats, everyone up and dancing. We were all high as kites.
@richh650
@richh650 10 ай бұрын
Excellent discussion! There are very few remasters that are better than the original as most modern sound engineers appear to be idiots now.
@AndyP126
@AndyP126 10 ай бұрын
People really underestimate dynamic range. That's why I hunt old unremastered CD.
@ChristosTsitselis
@ChristosTsitselis 10 ай бұрын
After this video I am considering to create 1000 accounts to subscribe again with each one of them. Your Channel and work is like an oasis inside the hottest desert. Thanks for this darko. Kudos from Athens Greece
@Phil_f8andbethere
@Phil_f8andbethere 10 ай бұрын
I try to avoid re-masters if possible, as it's as you say, a fancy way of saying "made louder". The best sounding CDs are generally the ones made in the 80s and early 90's, after that it's pot luck on how good a job they have done. It's why vinyl often sounds better than CD, because they have to master it differently so it works on vinyl. Great video JD. Music first, mastering second, format last.
@yobgol
@yobgol 10 ай бұрын
... and aren't lots of modern vinyl pressings done from masters produced for CDs in years gone by? that's what i've often heard and read.
@andrewbrazier9664
@andrewbrazier9664 10 ай бұрын
@@yobgolI understand this is because the original analogue oxide tape masters are in such poor condition.
@jamesdwright
@jamesdwright 10 ай бұрын
We need more videos like this John. A fascinating discussion on the merits of good mastering vs, bit rate and audio format. The more people realise this the sooner we can move away from remastered dynamically compressed releases.
@rusedgin
@rusedgin 10 ай бұрын
You know, modern sound engineers must deeply consider the way people listen to music. Mono playback on cell phones and Bluetooth speakers adds the risk of phase cancellation which can compromise audio quality. Of course, this is not an excuse for poor audio mastering on a vinyl record.
@BERTVVANHORCK
@BERTVVANHORCK 10 ай бұрын
Perhaps a blind audition of the same song from this album and see who can distinguish the different compression rates. In the end more than 90% is still decided by the music.
@Dan-Null
@Dan-Null 10 ай бұрын
I have the Blu ray and it is one of my best sounding concert Blu rays. Possibly the best. Pink floyds delicate sound of thunder is pretty high up there too
@mikedavid6681
@mikedavid6681 10 ай бұрын
I seen stop making sense in the theatre 1984 in a small rural town. It was electric, the projectionist turned the movie off at one point and lectured everyone to sit down and stop dancing
@markstradling
@markstradling 10 ай бұрын
Roon also analyses dynamic range and can display this information for each album, so no need for additional software or expense
@carpetcrawler79
@carpetcrawler79 10 ай бұрын
Roons display of dynamic range is crap. They use the wrong algorythm.
@TriAmpHiFi
@TriAmpHiFi 10 ай бұрын
Outstanding. Mature foundational audiophile knowledge. Thanks. Reggae, Funk & Brass 🔈🔉🔊
@patrikbjorling4391
@patrikbjorling4391 10 ай бұрын
I am doing the laundry and I had to pause and give you a huge HUG because this is VERY important stuff that no one seems to care about these days..back to laundry.
@charlesdavis5542
@charlesdavis5542 10 ай бұрын
John airs the record industry dirty drawers-we do our,uh..laundry.
@rwilifeandtravel1854
@rwilifeandtravel1854 10 ай бұрын
Great video. With all the technical advancements I hoped that the loudness wars would be well and truly over by now. At the very least there could be two versions: the highly compressed version and what I call the musical version.
@cxf1172
@cxf1172 10 ай бұрын
In 1983, I was the Production Coordinator for a Mattel commercial being filmed at Hollywood Center Studios' lot. (formerly Coppola's old Zoetrope Studios) The Director of the commercial was Jordan Cronenweth who was also the DP. At that point Jordan was best known as the DP for the pivotal Blade Runner movie. Early afternoon of each day, we would wrap for the day and run over to the Pantages to join the other cameramen, Grips and Gaffers who had been prelighting all day in anticipation of that night's performance which was shot for the three nights. Being on that stage with Demme, Jordan and Byrne who was a part of the visuals and creative, was one of the highlights of my career. Being a huge talking Heads fan, I had already purchased tickets for two of the three shows. Being in the audience to see those shows after a couple of pops at the nearby Frolic room was sublime. Looking forward to buying the new 4k, Dolby Atmos DVD.
@beachroadfilms
@beachroadfilms 10 ай бұрын
Great article. Please do more like this. I ripped the Blue ray using "DVD Audio Extractor" and measure a DR of 14 on my 24 bit rip, not the 13 you mention.
@jjgk228
@jjgk228 10 ай бұрын
Paul from PS Audio discussed this same topic in his video today...very helpful!!
@Rondoggy67
@Rondoggy67 10 ай бұрын
Tidal used to have original and remastered versions of a lot of stuff. Universally, the originals were better even with background noise. Now it’s usually only the remasters, which have quite heavy noise reduction. They generally sound less engaging.
@SmallChurch
@SmallChurch 10 ай бұрын
Perfect, John. You nailed it. 'Brick-Walled' digitally mastered recordings that are massively compressed have been, sadly, ubiquitous for a good number of years now. I'm a 40-yr. plus audio engineer/musician/producer and will always go for the original 'red book' mastered CD, as I'm less likely to get an album that comes up, when analyzed, as almost a complete black audio wave graph w/ the very occasional 'peak' which usually ends up being untethered sibilance. (Same goes for the vinyl version - give me, in most instances - the first pressing w/ original mastering).
@GeneSavage
@GeneSavage 10 ай бұрын
THANK YOU!!! Garbage in = garbage out. The only other thing I'd mention, that will drive you crazy, is that sometimes you can have a recording that shows greater dynamic range not because it is less compressed but because it's been messed with, maybe resampled or high or low pass filtered or something else, which has caused what are called "overshoots." They don't improve the actual dynamics, they just push the average volume of everything down because of these very transient spikes. These often are coming from copies of copies of master tapes... meaning that it may register as greater dynamic range, but have more tape hiss. ...Then again, NO tape hiss may indicate aggressive noise reduction has been used, which can dull the highs... I love this hobby, and I hate it, all at the same time. I wish record labels would release absolutely flat dumps of their master tapes and let US choose to "remaster" them ourselves if we wanted.
@mwmaccount
@mwmaccount 10 ай бұрын
John, this is a superb and much needed explanation of the ultimate importance of mastering and of dynamic range. There is one significant omission that I would urge you to clarify, if possible, which is the difference between dynamic range compression and file compression of a digital format recording. Understanding that distinction is essential for understanding your overall argument.
@user-xc6dc6bb1d
@user-xc6dc6bb1d 10 ай бұрын
I think you only have to look at how the vast majority of people consume music today. Either cheap ear buds, car stereos or Bluetooth speakers. If music was not heavily compressed, then it would not work well on these devices as they can’t reproduce the full dynamic range. The Bluray of the film is most probably going to be played on a sound system that has decent speakers and probably as sub, so will benefit for a higher range. Who knows maybe one day in the future we can have variable dynamic range to optimise to our listening equipment and environment.
@andrewbrazier9664
@andrewbrazier9664 10 ай бұрын
Very true. Although pop music singles are all about shifting units on what ever format. Streaming has compounded that ability for top selling artists at the expense of less commercial yet more creative ones 🙁
@alanjipy55
@alanjipy55 10 ай бұрын
I have the original DVD of, Fleetwood mac. The dance. I pop the disc in just to listen to, Gypsy in pcm. It sounds much better than the version on, Tidal. I've had the disc for about 30 years. It was the first DVD i bought.
@rolandlickert2904
@rolandlickert2904 10 ай бұрын
Lucky me I have plenty of CDs from the 80th and 90th.Nice clip you going back to the basics and that is Music and how it's recorded! That was always my first priority and the HiFi system came afterwards. If you had good recorded Music then even a mediocre system sounded good. Some people forget that and chase the holy grail!
@rogerglaubitz5710
@rogerglaubitz5710 10 ай бұрын
Hi John, your videos are always great, but this one was outstanding! Please more of these!
@TheMirolab
@TheMirolab 10 ай бұрын
Yes, yes, YES!! I’ve been proclaiming this for years, that it’s not the format, but the mastering that you are really hearing. Compression does bring forth more details, like a magnifying glass, but at a great loss of dynamics and is fatiguing. Sadly I have SACDs where the audio wavetops are flatlined and audibly distorted. It’s a crime that I cannot get my money back on what is a clearly defective hi-res product. I love this episode! I only wish you had recorded the vinyl and measured the DR.
@1998mchp
@1998mchp 10 ай бұрын
Depeche Mode Sacd's. Dynamically destroyed mid 2000s horror shows. A QED.
@brianmcnamara1431
@brianmcnamara1431 10 ай бұрын
This is my favorite video of yours to date. Bravo on comparing the music recordings instead of component review. Love it!
@mattwhite532
@mattwhite532 10 ай бұрын
I gotta hand it to ya man. I'm not always into some of the equipment you reviw; but, gosh darnit, it's videos like these that keep me coming back for more. In a hot and stuffy room, you are the rush of cool, fresh air that comes through when I feel like I'm about to pass out. Thanks to you and your team for all the work you put in on these vids! Always appreciate them!
@siraly
@siraly 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for clarifying on the most important aspect of sound quality!
@chriscleverley4320
@chriscleverley4320 10 ай бұрын
Mixing and mastering engineers are just as important to the end product as the musicians. If you want to delve further I recommend ’The Mixing Engineers Handbook’ by Bobby Owinski. He explains the tools and how engineers use them to create different audio experiences, covering instrument placement, use of space, compression, equalisation and more. The stylistic choices the mixing and mastering engineers make ultimately affect your listening experience and how you engage with the music.
@ScottGamble1
@ScottGamble1 10 ай бұрын
God damn, John. Sometimes you post a video that just resonates with the nerd me, and this is a great example. Thanks for taking us down the DR rabbit hole. Amazing. Thank you.
@Unicorn-ST
@Unicorn-ST 10 ай бұрын
@Darko Audio 100% agree. The recording and the master are the most important factors for the final quality, much more than the format. In the other side, regarding the dynamic range, the vinyl is the physical format more limited.
@wads_o_hair
@wads_o_hair 10 ай бұрын
There were analog cassette versions released in 1984 in the US with pretty good dynamic range, one with the LP tracks, and a special edition with "extended" (i.e., not edited) tracks.
@expluizig
@expluizig 10 ай бұрын
Not only my favourite music/movie but also great technical content - perhaps my favourite video so far!
@user-js6vb2dx6q
@user-js6vb2dx6q 10 ай бұрын
Amazingly informative. I love this album and cherish my original CD
@andrewcrossley2448
@andrewcrossley2448 10 ай бұрын
Excellent set of examples. Also helps me understand why my original LPs of Pink Floyd from the 1970s sound better than the recent vinyl remasters. Off loaded a new copy of DSOTM to my brother to play on his Rega TT, phono stage and Naim Muso with its digital amp as it’s not up to my pure analogue vinyl set up.
@davidwho7847
@davidwho7847 10 ай бұрын
Great explanation! Thank you, John.
@DAVID-io9nj
@DAVID-io9nj 10 ай бұрын
The master mix is KING. You can not get better audio, regardless of format, than what is on the mix. I am a firm believer that a standard CD is more than good enough. Most of the bad rep of CD audio was due to bad master mixes being used.
@abxaudiophiles
@abxaudiophiles 10 ай бұрын
GREAT STUFF!!!!! Such a usefull perspective for all of us as audiophiles to consider! Thank you for sharing!
@keosoft
@keosoft 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for illustrating dinamic range differences of different cd/vinil versions on my FAVOURITE album!
@photogcw
@photogcw 10 ай бұрын
Kudos to you! I think this is one of your best segments.
@cillyede
@cillyede 10 ай бұрын
Die Zeit, die man verschwendet, über das „richtige“ Format zu diskutieren, fehlt am Ende zum Musik hören. 😂 Good vid again. 🎶
@coreySLC
@coreySLC 10 ай бұрын
You answered questions I didn’t realize I even had. Thank you.
@hanneskluytenaar6908
@hanneskluytenaar6908 10 ай бұрын
Very, very, VERY, happy with your explanation. You put in words what I heard so often. Really interested in that list.
@johnnytoobad7785
@johnnytoobad7785 10 ай бұрын
I think this guy is actually Elvis Costello's younger brother. I originally purchased this LP shortly after it came out. I also have the 1999 CD version. Got to see the movie "premier" at the Terrace Theater in Minneapolis MN in 1984. (David Byrne introduced his parents who were in the audience.) And the original concert at Forest Hills in NYC in summer of 1983. One of my favorite concerts...EVER.
@neilshirley
@neilshirley 10 ай бұрын
What a great video. Really enjoyed watching this and the journey and explanation of this album.
@nunofernandes4501
@nunofernandes4501 10 ай бұрын
High quality mastering blows delivery formats out of the water.
@matthewhilty4209
@matthewhilty4209 10 ай бұрын
Sometimes I think that John forgot more about audio than I will ever know. I really enjoy these audio knowledge drops and learning something new.
@sudipchatterjee
@sudipchatterjee 10 ай бұрын
❤🙌 A gem of a video, this is!
@osmanyhernandez4539
@osmanyhernandez4539 10 ай бұрын
I can’t stress enough how extremely well explained is the issue here. I can’t wait for the continuation!
@dan_from_australia
@dan_from_australia 10 ай бұрын
Great analysis of the extent different factors influence the sound of a recording. Thanks John
@andrewwebb1911
@andrewwebb1911 10 ай бұрын
Thanks John.
@jefffan171
@jefffan171 10 ай бұрын
I normally always give a thumb button for your videos John. But just had to slam the button for the mention/nod to good old VHS and the absolute legend that was Laserdisc! Love that format
@normanmorrow4897
@normanmorrow4897 10 ай бұрын
A truly great vid as always. A new insight into one of my all time fav albums.
@ValerioCongeduti
@ValerioCongeduti 10 ай бұрын
This video is so clear and clever! Thank you
@michaelrossmaessler200
@michaelrossmaessler200 9 ай бұрын
Excellent video John. This one really made me think as well as being informative. 🙂
@neil3112
@neil3112 10 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this one. It is about time someone started talking about mastering and dynamic range. It is a travesty that for all advancements made most music (IMO at least) sounds worse now than it is did 30 years ago. I cannot imagine record labels stopping the 'Make it louder' request so maybe the best we can hope for is an additional mastering? Kind of surprised that artists are not on this, surely they would want their music to sound as good as it possibly could?
@andrewbrazier9664
@andrewbrazier9664 10 ай бұрын
Majority of artists make most of their money through concerts now. New albums are often concert promos....
@rodrigoffdsilva
@rodrigoffdsilva 10 ай бұрын
Oh, bolloc**. My audiophile road has just got bumpier 😂
@MattSB2588
@MattSB2588 10 ай бұрын
Your conclusion will hopefully reach a huge number of people and prevent arguments over which format is best etc. Compressing the dynamic range just makes for fatiguing listening. Great video. Your best.
@ittak3stwo
@ittak3stwo 9 ай бұрын
Sat a couple rows behind you at the screening in Berlin today. I had an absolut blast, what a great piece of music and movie material.
@venvedam
@venvedam 10 ай бұрын
Very nice and informative, thanks John for shedding light on this finally
@cemkilicli
@cemkilicli 10 ай бұрын
Great content, thank you for sharing.
@studiomavinil
@studiomavinil 10 ай бұрын
Read it on your website. And also it is good to watch for a evening relaxation❤
@zambination11
@zambination11 10 ай бұрын
Excellent. Well done. 👏
@neekondrums
@neekondrums 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for having the knowledge and skill to understand this stuff and taking the time to put it into words. I have been listening to music for over 40 years, but I could never explain to my friends why some older "inferior" recordings sounded better to me the "superior" new remastered ones. I could describe the loudness wars to some degree, but I didn't have any numbers to "show" people what I thought I was hearing. A big example that I know well is the difference between a cassette recording I made for myself from Rush's _Grace Under Pressure Tour_ stereo VHS release (released in 1986) vs. the remastered official CD version (released in 2006). The newer version, although cleaner, has too much low end in addition to just the compressed dynamic range. Best way for me to describe what I'm hearing is to say it sounds like, at the time of remastering, they tried as hard as they could to try to make Geddy's 1980s Steinberger bass sound like his 2005 Fender Jazz bass. Same effect on the drums, too, in that they sound more like DW drums than Tama drums -- all tone and no attack. They're kind of tubby and lack the growl I expect. Anyway, thank you again. I'll be using the DR Loudness database to inform my future music purchases.
@hughmnyks
@hughmnyks 10 ай бұрын
Thank-you for that!
@doctorbritain9632
@doctorbritain9632 10 ай бұрын
An old sound engineer friend of mine from Olympic studios in Barnes used the term "compressed the shit of it", in this case especially for the single "Peaches" by The Stranglers. As mentioned this was meant to make it "pop", back then it was for radio more than anything else.
@jamesdwright
@jamesdwright 10 ай бұрын
Great track that Peaches.
@chrisc6935
@chrisc6935 10 ай бұрын
I don’t think I’ve ever heard a remastered album that sounds better than the original.
@TjayMaxx
@TjayMaxx 10 ай бұрын
Man, that was a full geek out there John. Love it!
@rafaeldeyavorsky5766
@rafaeldeyavorsky5766 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this great explanation... it cleares a lot of thing to me....
@hifiinterieurs2306
@hifiinterieurs2306 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! 👍
@rickg8015
@rickg8015 10 ай бұрын
My Lou Reed - “New York”, early German CD pressing still sounds best to me than the re-issues and high res remaster..
@dirk-jansmit9772
@dirk-jansmit9772 10 ай бұрын
Excellent explanation of a a complex mix of concepts. Well done!
@baldF
@baldF 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant!
@charlieanderson8497
@charlieanderson8497 10 ай бұрын
Great info. Thanks !!!
@paulgyro
@paulgyro 9 ай бұрын
Here here! Spot on. Dynamics really matter. Some of the worst recordings I've ever heard have close to zero dynamic range. Completely unnatural artificial just yuck.
@mmgee
@mmgee 10 ай бұрын
Wishing now I had kept all of my 8 Tracks from the 60s, who knew the bad sound could be cool again. 😮
@philip3802
@philip3802 10 ай бұрын
So after seeing this vlog I searched my dvd’s and found the copy of Stop making Sense with 16 songs on it. It features also the 2.0 stereo option! I will start listening to it again, thanks to you. Special mentioning for my late Dog who seemed to like this dvd too because he tore the outside apart. Makes it a special ripped edition for me.
@steveoddy982
@steveoddy982 10 ай бұрын
Fantastic example of how mastering is so much more important than format. It's always the source material that is the most important, regardless of platform.
@merrillaldrich9170
@merrillaldrich9170 9 ай бұрын
Great video and reminder - I agree 100%. Recording and mastering quality and choices can absolutely have a greater impact than delivery format. In my library I can think of an album stored as MP3 (MP3 was all that was offered of this particular title) that sounds better in terms of sound quality, compression be damned, than some other albums I own presented via FLAC.
@TorToroPorco
@TorToroPorco 10 ай бұрын
The engineering and mastering makes it huge difference. I've heard some great recordings on vinyl EPS that sound better than the original album versions. Even when the original version is played on much more expensive turntables they don't sound as good as the EP played on lesser equipment. The dynamic range on some of the better mastered CDs from the 80s & 90 are amazing.
@winstonwolff
@winstonwolff 10 ай бұрын
John thank you for being the geek that all of us want to be but don't have time to be. 👍👍
@paulbader5844
@paulbader5844 10 ай бұрын
It could sound even better - you've got a big piece of lint on our stylus!
@leafyleafyleaf
@leafyleafyleaf 10 ай бұрын
Lint is one of the humbling things about vinyl. Take a great pressing, great cartridge (properly aligned), great turntable, et cetera, and one tiny piece of lint will make the sound all distorted and fuzzy.
@DavidJenne
@DavidJenne 9 ай бұрын
This was awesome. I learned a lot. Thank you!!
@pappachook
@pappachook 10 ай бұрын
As always fascinating stuff.
@markyexley9440
@markyexley9440 10 ай бұрын
Bagged myself an original early UK CD. What an amazing sounding album!
@georgebarronjr
@georgebarronjr 10 ай бұрын
I consider myself an audiophile....which is the only real criteria for who is and who isn't one, if you think about it. I have some fairly high end equipment and speakers. Maybe I don't have golden ears. Probably don't. But in general the format the music comes in doesn't seem to matter to me. I like to think I can tell MP3 from CD or hi-res but I'm not sure I'd pass a blind test to prove it. The two things that consistently make a difference to me is the quality/production/engineering of the music and the level of dynamic range compression. I hear folks say that badly produced/recorded music can be corrected with the proper gear and set up. I call BS on that. Garbage in; garbage out. I hear folks say the same about dynamic range compression. I call BS on that too. I do not think that it is even physically/scientifically possible. Even with a lack of golden ears, I can easily detect and do not like overly DR compressed music unless I'm in the car or just have it playing in the background. (Of course judiciously used DR compression, especially with classical music is fine.) Soooo, for me the quest for recordings, regardless of the format, is for those that are not overly DR compressed or that are produced/engineered better. And I don't enjoy the quest. It isn't part of the fun.
@denisruskin348
@denisruskin348 10 ай бұрын
Remasters are usually always worse.
@ocularcavity8412
@ocularcavity8412 10 ай бұрын
VERY true so far there is only one remaster that I EVER Liked and it was a 90's release of Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed on CD and other that particular one all the other CD' SACD's and HiRes Releases sound TERRIBLE. Even on Vinyl most later pressing are VERY FLAT sounding and are very thin. The older thicker ones tend to sound better but I feel it is more about the mastering and not the weight or thickness itself, just that later on they started cutting costs EVERYWHERE they could and thinner = cheaper
@janspaan6122
@janspaan6122 10 ай бұрын
Thanks John, very very interesting 👍
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