When I Wouldn't Buy a Savage: Model 93

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@nutnfancy
@nutnfancy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for coming out to the video! This or course is thanks to my donors who make this expensive process possible, fully independent reviews: www.patreon.com/Nutnfancy You can also donate to the TNP independence with PayPal also, above. Here’s some of TNPP comments on this video! "Glenn Rawson Bring on more 17 HMR! I LOVE my Ruger American in 17 HMR with reliable 9 and 15 round mags! 1 2w Paul Kwiatkowski I need a clue. 2w Thomas Bachtell CZ 457: Love it in 22 LR, 22 Mag, or 17 HMR, switching barrels is fun. Awesome accuracy, beautiful, and functional, but you do pay for it. 2w Schmuckatelli Mini-Sniper sounds like a fun shooting competition. Would love to see the crew out in the desert to see who was the best sniper team (Sean the TNPer, Jardine, and TD along with Papa Nutn). 2w Schmuckatelli Nutn rocking the new TNP trucker's hat! I have to ask...because I know you used to review outdoor clothing...why cover up the logo on your jacket? 2w Ryan Reese Probably from an openly anti gun company like Patagonia or North Face. 🤷🏻‍♂️ 6 2w Load reply Cody Harring Always appreciate the info. Will stick with my 10/22s. 4 2w Pedro Savage having crap magazines in modern times is as common place as ruger copying someone’s idea. My 308 FCP SR uses those junk savage mags, finally they reversed course and went back to AICS pattern mags. 2w Bernal CZ 457 Combo?! Interesting... Love my Mavick 88 combo. 1 2w Casey Jones I have a friend who has that CZ combo and man does that .17 barrel stack’em tight 2w Knaack I have the plastic 17hmr version. I’d echo you on capacity concerns and magazines on occasion that do not fully lock/click up into fire position, but those would be my only issues. It is an excellent prairie dog rifle. It’s light weight and accuracy make it a great choice when your not shooting from a bench. My money is waiting to fly out the door when they give us a quality option for a 17hmr carbine/AR style. The A17 just doesn’t have the 2nd COOL factor. 2w Casey Jones I have the A17 and although it’s pretty accurate the mag issue is atrocious. If I can get mine back cycling it’s getting sold. 1 2w Cesar Villanueva All the issues the Savage 93R had are fixed in the Savage B17......Pic rail.....threaded barrel....rotory mag with 10-25 round mags. I have both riles and love them both for accuracy but hands down the B17 for the WIN! Also some food for thought the B17 is about .6 lb heavier then the older 93R. 1 2w Clint Allison Interesting results that make me sad lol. I've got a very early, blued bull barrel 93R17 in left hand configuration that I enjoy a lot. It's a little heavy for what it is but it's got good accuracy. That little .17 round is a good groundhog round on the farm where over penetration can be an issue. I'm glad I got a good one back in the day. It won't be leaving my safe anytime soon 🙂 2w Hold Fast Joe I go to quite a few Appleseed 2 day weekend events and 95% are all 22lr so I see them all. The 10-22 by far most frequently seen on the firing line. I don't own a 10-22 myself, I'll rock the savage fvsr you reviewed 11 years ago. After many years of events I'm definitely over 10k rounds through it so given wear and tear it's held up great, still wonderful accuracy. The Ruger mags are better. Even after years of using the fvsr I'll struggle with the mags in the timed events that require mag changes. The fvsr I have is ammo sensitive. I have to use either federal bulk or CCI. Anything else the ejector won't hook reliably. I tried Winchester several times because it's easily found in my area but it becomes a single shot requiring me to use a knife to dig out the spent cartridges. 2w Andrettski Pretty rifles but total no from me. At the 19:40 mark was so painful to watch all those cycling issues, you held it together better than I would Nutn. Love the Benny Hill/clown world tuba music at the end. I have a 10/22 w/Nikon Prostaff, works for me. I just bought a Charger 10/22 pistol that I'm going to trick out. Unfortunately my commie state won't let me get the binary trigger. Good, bad or the ugly, I always dig a GRV. 2w Hold Fast Joe Great review BTW, I'm happy you brought out a Ruger option at the end. I would recommend it over the savage despite my years of experience with the savage. I think Ruger did a great job with their design and it edges out ahead of the savage line. One thing you touched on but could've expanded further was bolt action is just fun! Get your buddies together to plink and it just adds to the experience! Plus it slows down rate of fire. Even 22lr is getting up there in cost now so addition of throwing the bolt after every shot helps! 2w Charles New Don't love the rifle, but that AVI-8 watch is very cool. 1 2w Schmuckatelli I paused the video on that watch and tried to figure out what it was, but I was using my phone and it was too small to make it out. Thanks for mentioning that it's an AVI-8. 1 2w Load reply Ol Retired Fed Best part of the review was the clown music over the frustrating feeding issues at the end. Sort of a final comment on the rifle. I love my Rugers. 1 2w UnnamedSwiss I havent ever used the 93, I recently bought a new mk ii in 22lr, for small game and recreation, I like it, it's pretty accurate as of yet. And strangely enough it said not to use shorts. And the 10rd mag holds them fine, and it feeds them great and shorts them accurately. I cant say enough about it, but I'm wondering if I got lucky or if it's just a difference between 93 and mkii 2w Casey Jones I’ve got an A17 (Nutn reviewed the A22 version) and it’s got all kinds of mag issues. I’ve bought 1 more mag to see if I can even get it cycle again and I’m pitching it. Savage makes great bolt actions in center fire chambering but these longer cased rim fires have poor magazines 2w The Nutnfancy Project Yep they do have sucky mags. They need to upgrade them. 2w steve garrett the 17hmr will almost always be alot more accurate than 22 mag. as for the mag, Marlin has a similar type setup with their 17v and 17 vs series. YES it does suck and needs some finnese to put in. I think CZ 457 and tikka t1x has the market for 17hmr. I personally have switched to 17 fireball. I can actually load ammo for it as opposed to 17 HMR being out of stock. of course both suppressed. suppression and 17 caliber is the secret sauce 2w Kyle Zimmerman I have a T-bolt in 17HMR that I bought based on your review of the 22 lr version. I love the little gun. It is a great plinker, and also fills the itch for straight pull rifle (a la k31). I have shot a number of critters with the thing and it is very handy. The trigger does not go super light, but plenty serviceable for hunting. It is also plenty accurate, groups are around 1.5" at 100 yards, but it does cost more than the competition so if you want one, be ready to pay a bit. 1 2w The Nutnfancy Project Great choice in the that Browning T Bolt, such a great gun. Super fun in that .17 caliber too. Glad it's working for you. 2w Lynn E Fite, Col (r) The firearms industry: Kel-Tec is the most innovative: pmr, cmr, cp33, bullpups, sub2000, etc. always looking for that niche market. Marlin, is dead. It seems Ruger will be content with Ross bolt lever action. Henry dominates the lever action market. Mossberg has a great following with the shotguns, for hunting and competition. Ruger selective introduces improved products based on accurate intel: PCC’s. LCP, R. Americans, the Mark series, and of course the 10/22 heritage. 2w Ronald RayGun Have a 93 in .22 mag…same issues. 2w The Nutnfancy Project There ya go 2w STLParkRanger13 Savage rimfire magazines have a problematic reputation. The 64 is plagued with issues regarding the hard steel bolt shaving down the softer (aluminum?) feed lips/ramp of the factory 10-rounders over the course of a few hundred rounds, leading to feeding cycle issues. I've owned three and each one did it. 2w The Nutnfancy Project Exactly. These mags suck. 2w Paul Kwiatkowski Merry Christmas 2w The Nutnfancy Project Thanks Paul 2w David Elkins Gotta stick around and stay for the last minute of the video. 🤣 2w 308dude Yes! Absolutely hilarious with more than adequate background music 🤣 2w Load 2 replies Prepper Life Thx for the YUGE amount of gun content recently Nut'n. I inherited one of these n .22 wmr 2 years ago and have not shot it yet..... I was able to find 15 round mags for it that fit, I guess I'll find out if they function properly. 2w Lon N The last minute made me giggle- that is what they play for Joe instead of "Hail to the Chief". 2w Jerome J These ear protections look interesting, what are they? 2w Jesse (Sphinx) Clown music at end was great! haha The look you give the camera--been there! 1 1w Dawson Rabb My thoughts exactly lol 1w"
@cstarr3240
@cstarr3240 2 жыл бұрын
If the magazine was the major drawback for this rifle, please check out the Savage B22 Magnum or the B17; they are a new crop of Savage rimfire bolt guns that use the same 10-round rotary box magazines used in the A-series. I've never shot one, so I can't speak to how good they are. But reviewing the B22 Magnum or B17 would round out the Savage rimfire offerings nicely, as these guns seem to marry two Savage rimfires models that you've already reviewed (the A-series and the 93 series).
@kauaigold
@kauaigold Жыл бұрын
Someones spamming fake giveaways pretending to be you @nutnfancy
@tomr3074
@tomr3074 2 жыл бұрын
It's nice of your wife to lend you her sunglasses for the video
@stepanbandera5206
@stepanbandera5206 7 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
@sosrob8085
@sosrob8085 2 ай бұрын
Now that’s funny😂
@NSav10137
@NSav10137 2 жыл бұрын
No matter how busy I am or how crazy Fucking life gets, I always come back to watching your videos and go back to old run and gun videos like in the desert with Zane or the serenity actual videos. Thanks nutn and I hope you keep it up
@SPZ510Z
@SPZ510Z Жыл бұрын
I had the same problem with the mags. All I did was bend the tabs out a bit so the next round points up a little more and everything worked out fine. No more issues except inserting the mag takes a bit of concentration. Thanks for the vid. I thought I was the only one with mag issues.
@ToroMoto
@ToroMoto 2 жыл бұрын
nutn I hope to see some more adventure videos in this coming year! Happy new years to you/doodle and the family.
@mikefurbee8425
@mikefurbee8425 Жыл бұрын
For the first time yesterday after about 3 years I had problems with cartridges feeding on my Savage 17 hmr. On further inspection, it looked like the problem was that the red plastic bullet guide was getting hung up inside the magazine. I washed it out with isopropyl alcohol, let it dry and presto, the problem went away. Readers might want to try this before they buy new magazines or get rid of their rifles. I think it is an amazing little rifle, flat shooting well beyond 100 yards.
@mjh1783
@mjh1783 2 жыл бұрын
Happy new year nutn. Thanks for all your reviews. If you find you have time a review of the classic Remington 760 would be sweet! I know it’s not your typical, but they have a place!
@DiscoveringOutdoors
@DiscoveringOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, great video as always. I own a Savage 93R17 and it is a blast to shoot. I put a Leupold rifleman 3-9x scope on it. Light but lethal package. Squirrels arch enemy
@JeffreysmithSmith-eo3oe
@JeffreysmithSmith-eo3oe Жыл бұрын
I agree 100 % I have it . The best video you’ve done. It amazes me that most guns work. 😂 thanks for your input. Great info. 😊
@lanceuppercut4043
@lanceuppercut4043 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 93r17 fv-sr paired with a bsa sweet .17. I have had no complaints with it. Yes the mags are antiquated and can benefit from an upgrade but besides that it's been a great rifle. Definitely a mini sniper!
@mackenziekwaksistala8245
@mackenziekwaksistala8245 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a minimalist just last week in 22lr and just took it out today. Came home and saw this video and couldn't believe that there are such bad things to say about it. Mine was great today, no mag issues but I do understand that the mags are cheap stamped metal and will likely fall apart over time. My accuracy with it was quite good as well easily 1moa in pretty perfect conditions running cci mini mags. Love the vids nutn. If you get the opportunity to try one in 22lr give it a shot, I'm stoked on it.
@ArpOutdoors
@ArpOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Try cci standard velocity. I swear they group the best, norma tac-22 rounds group well also
@oldad4792
@oldad4792 2 жыл бұрын
Savage makes a new bolt action .17hmr, model B17. Magazine system is much better, 10 round rotary mag. Just bought one for my son to learn on. There are 25 rd mags available for the a17 that will work for the b17 as well.
@craigsteinkamp12
@craigsteinkamp12 2 жыл бұрын
Have you been able to run the 17hmr suppressed? I have a sporter version of the 93, kind of kicking myself for not waiting for a threaded barrel but it’s wicked accurate so no complaints there.
@DLK262
@DLK262 2 жыл бұрын
Great content all the way around here lately. Keep it up!
@curonianvikingidontcare
@curonianvikingidontcare Жыл бұрын
Took ma a while to figure the garbage magazines they make for these great rifles!! Love the 22mag, and since I figured the issue, it’s a great fun gun!
@HardcoreSlot
@HardcoreSlot 2 жыл бұрын
My family has had 93s in 17 since 2008. I have a light plastic stock with the heavy barrel, my dad has the composite with the bull and my step dad has the light stock with the pencil barrel. All of them have the sweet 17 scope on them and they are all lasers. 1000s upon 1000s of rounds. Only downs we ever had was a sticky extractor and some of the mags were a little wonky.
@firegrunt03
@firegrunt03 2 жыл бұрын
Ty sir. I was debating towards Ruger vs Savage. Your review is the opposite of my savage fvsr 22lr which is excellent
@Rydeman2
@Rydeman2 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 93r17 from the first wave that came out pre accutrigger. It’s a tack driver and almost shoots a laser beam from 0-150 yards with Hornady VMax 17 grain 2550fps. Literally you sight it in dead on at 50 yards and it’s dead on to 150 with no compensation bar the wind. There is no telling how much it has killed. Nothing special. Just a wood stock, heavy barrel and no trigger job but it has never needed it.
@MsRandomfunnystuff
@MsRandomfunnystuff 2 жыл бұрын
i have the same rifle but with thumbhole stock i absolutely love it
@djmj12714
@djmj12714 Жыл бұрын
I'm feeding my 93R17, wood stock w/ a bull barrel, CCI V-Max 17gr, 2550 fps. Whenever I send a rd downrange it says, "Please, Sir, may I have another?" To which I kindly oblige. LOL
@4Ugrunt
@4Ugrunt 2 жыл бұрын
Merry New Year from deep in the heart of Texas
@BlackdogADV
@BlackdogADV 2 жыл бұрын
Good review! I agree, I’d pass on this one. I bought one in 2015 and have the same problems. I’d pass on 17 HMR also as the ammo is the same price as 2.23.
@wadeg9192
@wadeg9192 2 жыл бұрын
Happy new year Sir!
@pappamike6231
@pappamike6231 2 жыл бұрын
Nutn, Your idea of a 22 mag or 17 HMR bug out semi auto carbine is a great idea. I've just comprised with hot 22 lr with 30 round magazines in a MSR setup. Cost and availability of the 17HMR and 22 MAG may be a drawback when there are supply issues near the end.
@swampdonkeyoffgrid190
@swampdonkeyoffgrid190 2 жыл бұрын
The only way i could get my mags to work properly on my hmr was to relieve the bottom of my chambermouth with a dremmel. Did’nt take much and they work flawlessly.
@andrewhaley8992
@andrewhaley8992 2 жыл бұрын
Rimfire vids are the best! I love 17hmr and 22WMR, they both have their places. Love Savage.
@leonardjanda6181
@leonardjanda6181 2 жыл бұрын
Nice 👍 rifle, Happy New Years 🎄🎁
@nightsquats
@nightsquats 2 жыл бұрын
Been down w/TNP since 2012, happy new years means a decade of diggin the project!
@calholli
@calholli 2 жыл бұрын
I was a little later, but I've watched most of the back logs too.. lol
@jacobbush1419
@jacobbush1419 2 жыл бұрын
I have a ruger American in 17 hmr, got it the first year it came out and it's been great. Put it in a boyds custom stock it's a tack driver and I've took several groundhogs with it. .17 hmr is a great round especially with the 10/22 mags.
@kentgoldings
@kentgoldings 2 жыл бұрын
I own this Savage 93R17. I use it primarily for tree squirrels during the winter when the flat trajectory comes in play. The 20-grain game loads works well for that. It has no problem hitting the bag limit. But, I did have those feeding issues. The rifle is not more accurate than my CZ in 22LR. This has always been frustrating for me. I shoot the gun less because of the dearth of ammunition l
@jasenjester8444
@jasenjester8444 2 жыл бұрын
Love the mini sniper philosophy of use, have a savage 22lr with oversized bolt kinda a min version of my 110, total ridiculous I know but fun
@starlingblack814
@starlingblack814 2 жыл бұрын
That one rifle's bolt looked jiggly getting into battery.....think I would get rid of that one. On the farm years ago we just used what we had. Interesting video; thanks.
@cadamsm11
@cadamsm11 2 жыл бұрын
Have you reviewed the Savage 17hmr with the rotary mag and Accutrigger? Excellent rifle, has left-handed version.
@NotAMathAsian
@NotAMathAsian 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, some love for 17 HMR! I love my Ruger American in 17 HMR it has a threaded barrel and reliable 9 rd and 15 rd mags!
@gnarshread
@gnarshread 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Nutn! It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on optics for small caliber rifles. I absolutely love shooting 22lr and have a bunch of different optics on different rifles. The annoying thing is the best "small caliber" scope I have used under $300 is a crappy old bsa I robbed off an air rifle. I dont mind investing in good optics but its hard to justify when its for my fun gun and not something more serious.
@stuartowens3506
@stuartowens3506 2 жыл бұрын
Ugh! Same issue with my 93 in WMR. I’ve tried different mags as well. I found that I absolutely CANNOT insert the magazine on a closed bolt and then cycle the bolt to feed a cartridge. I must insert the mag on an open bolt. Also, I found that I have to tap the mag before insertion to set the cartridges in a “strippable” attitude within the mag. And finally, I have to hold the magazine with an ever-so-slight upward pressure to get the first couple of rounds to strip properly. The only good I can say about the rifle is that it is accurate as F for me...single hole at 25 yards at Get Some Gun’s Range in Murray. TNP, thank you for validating my experience with the rifle. I cannot even bring myself to sell the damned thing because, ethically, I HAVE to tell a potential buyer about my issues. The problems with this rifle is 100% the magazine system.
@landonvasquez2990
@landonvasquez2990 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 93r17 didn't have the accutriger, I put a sav-r sear in it and man the trigger and accuracy is awesome for such a cheap rifle
@Doze320
@Doze320 2 жыл бұрын
Honest review. I have a 93GL (lefty version) in 22mag. I have several 5 round magazines and they all jam exactly like what you showed in the video. I find if you run the bolt slowly, mine works fine. As you said, excellent trigger and a very accurate gun for me.
@tylesveque2373
@tylesveque2373 2 ай бұрын
I got the g lefty no problem with the 5 shot but the 10s needed some playing with
@410mossberg
@410mossberg 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you about the Ruger American. I bought the American 22 Mag in the short barrel adjustable stock after watching your review a couple of years ago. Scoped it and had a real tack driver. Last year I bought the same Ruger in 17 HMR. Scoped that and it's a fine tack driver as well. Thanks for your recommendation.
@cj599
@cj599 Жыл бұрын
i have both the 93 is a more accurate rife i shoot actual dimes at 80 yards 9 out of 10 times
@MegaBait1616
@MegaBait1616 7 ай бұрын
@@cj599 , me too...... be well.
@chadbasedwick8517
@chadbasedwick8517 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing looking stock. Super interesting.
@youmasajp
@youmasajp 2 жыл бұрын
It might be a minor thing, but I enjoyed the humorous music in the last shots in the video. Keep it up. :-)
@carfvallrightsreservedwith6649
@carfvallrightsreservedwith6649 2 жыл бұрын
My 93R17 was dropped into a MDT chassis, EGW rail attached, WHEELER TACTICAL rings, BSA SWEET 17 scope mounted, RIFLE BASIX' trigger sear kit installed. Way overkill but lovecit!
@squib3083
@squib3083 2 жыл бұрын
My CZ 457 in 17hmr is a smooth beast and excellent suppressor host
@ebblue81
@ebblue81 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Happy new year TNP
@dororo3118
@dororo3118 2 жыл бұрын
I have a love hate relationship with my 93r17 gv. I love how accurate it is for how cheap I got it brand new. I live how versatile it is for small to medium game. I hate that it took savage 5 attempts to replace the stock that was defective. I hate that besides scope bases, bottom metal/guard and a single component upgrade (non accutrigger), there is no aftermarket for magazines, bolt upgrades, barrels, not a thing.
@darthwizzywizard
@darthwizzywizard 2 жыл бұрын
Love the 40th Droid, AUG, and SIG, bra. Thanks Dude.
@andreinarangel6227
@andreinarangel6227 2 жыл бұрын
Ruger American Rimfire in .22LR. Most reliable 22 mags in the business. Flawless shooter. Comparable price.
@cw7legionofpewrights596
@cw7legionofpewrights596 2 жыл бұрын
Bought 1 and I don’t shoot it much I mainly using it as a cheap 17hmr, yes I like the Ruger American just I grew up shooting a 22mag one with a fixed 4x when I was little very fun fun and here’s the thing I got mine for sentimental value
@seemo144
@seemo144 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a SG above the AUG right? Good looking gun. Classic trio there
@ronws2007
@ronws2007 2 жыл бұрын
Always great philosophy of use. No affiliations other than glowing customer service from Gunnie's. One channel I was watching for varminting is woodchuckin'. He has tried several rounds but mostly has used .22-250. That being said, you can make a varmint rifle kind of heavy. Like the Mossberg MVP. Their actions are the same but the MVP and LC models have the medium bull barrel. It makes the whole thing a bit heavier and kind of front heavy. Which is fine for the repeat fire in getting rid of ground hogs, which are an invasive species. the woodchuckin guy gets permission from the farmers in his area and he only has to get from his vehicle to a vantage point, either prone or behind a hillock and he can make the beasties do acrobatic flips at 700 yards. The small ammo shoots smoother and because the recoil is nearly non-existent, you can keep the scope on target and watch the trace and impact. He will dial for distance and hold for wind. It's too bad about the magazine. It could be a great rifle, otherwise.
@choogiesoutdooradventures.1948
@choogiesoutdooradventures.1948 Жыл бұрын
I just bought the 17 hmr minimalist. I wish I would have looked at it better because the magazine loads crooked I have to twist it a little bit to get it to seat. It loads the rounds fine though. The cut out has sharp edges I took my pocket knife and rounded the edges off. It was not free floated the barrel was touching the left edge of the stock, I took my pocket knife to the stock also and free floated it. I’d buy a different gun if I was y’all.
@drewbienemann61
@drewbienemann61 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s get a review on that SG551 back there!
@gagemason3865
@gagemason3865 2 жыл бұрын
Love you Nutn. Where can I get that TNP patch that’s on your hat?
@stereosonix2000
@stereosonix2000 2 жыл бұрын
Dope shades. What brand are they...asking for a freind.
@michaelhoscheit7836
@michaelhoscheit7836 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to make the music at the end the ringtone whenever my boss calls me. Thanks for the video Nutn.
@AdamRapier
@AdamRapier 2 жыл бұрын
Your mini-sniper game sounds familiar to the “steel prairie dog” shoots one range used to do. 22lr or 22mag only. Scoped or iron sites. Steel prairie dog poppers from 25-150 yards.
@WellDressedCaveman
@WellDressedCaveman 2 жыл бұрын
Those Home Depot gloves are legit. Bought the "back packer" 10/22 for my son recently, he loves it. Threaded. Also bought the Ruger American in .22 mag...great gun! Turtles are deathly afraid of it!
@kinguin7
@kinguin7 2 жыл бұрын
Why are you messing with turtles?
@lokichoki_
@lokichoki_ 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought the savage 93 in the G model, I wanted to have a wooden stock and Iron sights but savage only threaded optics only models so I'll have to have it threaded. Funny enough I don't own a suppressor yet. I bought it because I left my RIA M14Y with my EX for her daughter and even it was suppressed and shot suppressed excellently
@marknelson8435
@marknelson8435 2 жыл бұрын
Heh. Nutn looks more and more like a mad scientist everyday!
@northman77
@northman77 2 жыл бұрын
I hunted grouse with a savage B17 precision last fall and a 100 yards headshot is doable, I would say 50/50 but i prefer to get closer at 50 yards. You are still far enough for them to stay calm and probability for a headshot is close to 100%. That said, I couldnt find federal 17gn ammo. My rifle prefer those to the Hornady 17 and 20gn ammo. Cycling is perfect but the rifle is heavy. I also "had" to modified a pair of 25 rounds a17 mags to fit inside of the magwell! Flawless cycling. I bought a 22lr mark II fv-sr bazooka green yesterday and I'll try to hunt with it before the end of the grouse hunting season. I will have to take a look at the splitting magazine issue... I kind of buy this rifle to retired my old cooey 600.
@cscearce2000
@cscearce2000 2 жыл бұрын
I have one of these I literally just load 2 rounds in the mag because the mag is so shitty. 😂 normally I just use it as a single shot loading straight into the chamber tbh but it’s a great shooting gun for me in .17 hmr I love it
@tylesveque2373
@tylesveque2373 2 ай бұрын
For the semi 22 mag cz takes the cake awesome little reliable rifle the cz 512
@lapinecommunitychurchorego5102
@lapinecommunitychurchorego5102 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 93 17hmr that came with a 5 rd magazine. It has reliably fed with that, but I recently purchased 2 ten rounders that wouldn't feed hardly at all. Similar to your experience with the Minimalist model. Holding all 3 mags side by side revealed nothing, as they look identical except in length. I measured the distance between the edges of the feed lips and discovered the issue. The new 10 rd magazine feed lips were just slightly closer together than the 5 rd mag. I barely spread them and presto, they feed as they should. I agree, Savage needs to up their magazine design.
@Thirsty_Fox
@Thirsty_Fox Жыл бұрын
I have the same problem with Marlin's 7 and 10-round magazines for the 795/Papoose. 10-rounders all work flawlessly but 7-rounders all jam pretty much every single round.
@homerj109
@homerj109 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video of you doing the mini sniper game.
@PW-pd1wt
@PW-pd1wt 2 жыл бұрын
I can't speak for other models but I have a Savage 93R17 GV LEFT HAND that has been very reliable over the years and has fabulous accuracy. In an earlier comment someone mentioned laser beams. I'll second that, within 150 yards I know I can put the bullet where I want it. After shooting that rifle I lost all interest in .22LR. That said I'm not a fan of Savage's current lineup nor some of the design choices they have been making.
@ur_asian_milfoil
@ur_asian_milfoil Жыл бұрын
I went from Ruger 10/22 22mag still owned... to Savage 22mag sold and now nothing beats CZ 455/457
@gilbert_4932
@gilbert_4932 2 жыл бұрын
I know you have done the 93 but what’s ur thoughts on the b22 it has the updated mags similar to a22 but it’s a bolt?
@jaystonkey
@jaystonkey 2 жыл бұрын
That totally sounds fun!! 😁👏👏👏
@kennethwilson7315
@kennethwilson7315 2 жыл бұрын
The 93 magnums (17HMR/22WMR) came about at a time when one of the primary competitors were the Marlins. Don’t ask me to completely date the Marlin changes, but there was a 25M and 925M generational change for the .22WMR. Think the .17HMR was a 917M but don’t quote me there. I know more about the 25M/925M because my dad has had a 25M longer than I’ve been alive, and I picked up a 925M when I was 13 or so. Saying all that to point out the Savage 93 magnums and Marlin magnums use the same style of magazine as well as the catch/release. I had magazine related feeding issues similar to what I saw you experience on camera. My issue was that the magazine did not fit tightly to the guide rail, so it would move out of alignment when the bolt pushed on the round. The solution was pretty simple. I just had to tune the magazine by slightly bending the tabs that fit over the rail to make it fit more tightly. Smoothed my action right out. Given my POU for my .22WMR, I won’t say the necessity to tune each magazine is a deal breaker since I don’t need a ton of them. As you alluded, the Ruger 77s in the rimfire magnums used a rotary magazine and were out at the same time. More modern options would include the Ruger American rimfires, but also the Savage B series bolt action rifles. They use the same rotary magazines as the A22. The exact model number changes with caliber, but a B17 would be almost exactly what you described in your “recommended improvements” section to bring the .17HMR variant of the 93 into the modern age. A B17 would be a much more direct comparison to a 17HMR Ruger American. If KelTec made a 17HMR variant of the CMR30 that worked and the 22WMR CMR30 worked, it would be an awesome contender for hitting the woods. Be even better if the PMR30 worked and was also offered in 17HMR. What we really need is for Ruger to offer a 5.7 Charger and a 5.7 bolt action that take Ruger 57 mags. Get away from the thin case and rimfire reliability issues of the 22WMR and 17HMR and also get the kind of velocity from a 5” handgun barrel that 22WMR offers from a 20” rifle barrel. At one point, basic 40gr FMJ 5.7 American Eagle ammunition was 14.99/50rd while CCI Maxi-Mag was 12.99/50rd. At that time, I’d have paid that slight cost increase for the benefits 5.7 offered. Seeing that same AE FMJ ammo offered for the 30-40 per 50rd range right now though…I’m not so certain I’d worry about finding something that fills the void between .22LR and 5.56. When you consider that just a few years ago a 50rd box of 9mm FMJ was 9.99 while the rimfire magnums were 12.99, a 9mm PCC or bolt action rifle suddenly starts to make more sense in filling that void between 22LR and 5.56 in every aspect except maybe trajectory beyond 100M. The only real advantage of .22WMR over 9mm inside 100M is that it’s not too much caliber for squirrel while still being just enough to harvest smaller deer (think survival situation instead of legality for hunting).
@tylesveque2373
@tylesveque2373 2 ай бұрын
I found the Hornady cycles the best i had some cycling issues and found that the ammo was the culprit
@tg0003bpa
@tg0003bpa 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks with that I will steer clear!
@GIJose
@GIJose 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like an AUG on the wall. What made the change from previous review? 2nd cool lust ?
@cernst29
@cernst29 Жыл бұрын
My 93 minimalist 17hmr has no problems feeding. Its actually my favorite gun. That sucks that you're having that many problems
@gamergeek8933
@gamergeek8933 Жыл бұрын
There is an update to this rifle… the mark2 and then the b22 or 17 I’d that is what you are looking for. The 93 is the budget gun.
@jackmyers6040
@jackmyers6040 8 ай бұрын
Had a Marlin 22mag that was a tack driver my brother loaned it out ! Never to be seen again ! The girlfriend of the person said she returned it! Leaving it on the front porch ! Found a Savage but may be the 110 ? (non-acutrigger) used to replace it ! Never no issues feeding ? Bought my little brother a 17HMR Savage with acutrigger never any issues with it either! Tack driving accurate! I bought myself a Ruger American identical as u show in this video! In 22 mag ! Mounted a Gold series Bushel Legend 6x24x40 ! At 50 yds shattering 10 for 10 dumb-dumb suckers No problem ! But to check how impressive accurate it was Zeroed ! Brought the cross hairs on 1 of the 7 sucker sticks left stuck in soft rubber mat ! Exhaling and squeezing off around the suck stick was sent in to orbit and another and another 5 out 7 sticks was enough to satisfy it was a tack driving killing machine !
@micahv9365
@micahv9365 2 жыл бұрын
I love the way those minimalists look, but I can say after working in a gun store for years, those minimalists have bolt issues. I would say 1/3 of the minimalists had issues cycling the bolt, even without a magazine inserted. Never seen that issue in other .22 bolt guns. I like Savage but they have an issue to fix
@thecrimsonops
@thecrimsonops 2 жыл бұрын
ive had problems and seen problems whit most savages i owned sadly and i wish thay course make bolt guns that can shot steel case ammo
@MarkJones-sk6vk
@MarkJones-sk6vk 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure about ammo cost now but .223 was about tge same price as 17 hmr and 22m. So might as well just shoot .223?
@wyattyoung4811
@wyattyoung4811 2 жыл бұрын
Nutn what shades are you rocking? Those are sweet
@wyattyoung4811
@wyattyoung4811 Жыл бұрын
@nutnfancy what do I have to do?
@busboy262
@busboy262 2 жыл бұрын
Might sound stupid, but.....What are the make/model of those awesome sunglasses?
@mikewheeler3449
@mikewheeler3449 Жыл бұрын
With my 93r17 mags. I had several rails open up and would not keep the rounds in place in the mags
@Shitbox_connoisseur
@Shitbox_connoisseur 2 ай бұрын
Had the same thing happen, what I found is that supporting the rifle with your hand on the mag or resting the gun on the mag will spread the feed lips BUT it's as simple as lightly pressing the lips with a pair of pliers, shouldn't happen to begin with but it's an easy bandaid.
@FMDad-dm5qo
@FMDad-dm5qo 2 жыл бұрын
If anyone else was confused by the intro: what TNP reviewed in 2010 was the Savage Mk II in .22LR, not technically a Model 93 - but they are essentially the same gun.
@georgestreisel7920
@georgestreisel7920 2 жыл бұрын
Love my mk2, good to know
@cayman9873
@cayman9873 2 жыл бұрын
My 10-22 heavy barrel w leopold 3 x 9 x 40 with custom trigger can shoot 3/4 of an inch all day at 100 yards with crappy ammo.. aim 2 inch low at 50 yards. Its so much fun
@j.rob.5943
@j.rob.5943 2 жыл бұрын
Pics or it didn’t happen
@Robnord1
@Robnord1 2 жыл бұрын
🤣 3/4" That's a good one.
@longdrawarcher4857
@longdrawarcher4857 Жыл бұрын
You are missing out on the Mach 2, i absolutely love that cartridge.
@nancyhayes5905
@nancyhayes5905 2 жыл бұрын
You can store that big ole scope in that stock cut out. Danny Hayes
@fireside9503
@fireside9503 2 жыл бұрын
We need some damn last suspect on the channel.. last time I seen him he was like 12 and on a mountain hike with you, Nutn.
@wonderingweirdo7476
@wonderingweirdo7476 Жыл бұрын
He doesn't like guns, or shooting and most especially his dad. Remember the garand shoot with him? Yeah I could tell he wasn't digging being with his dad.
@mikeofmanymikes2630
@mikeofmanymikes2630 Жыл бұрын
I love the old savages but I stay away from the new ones. I have a Marlin 917v, and a few 22 magnums, Kodiak 260, Savage 65m, and Mossberg Chuckster. The Savage and the Mossberg both have the same magazines.
@atilliar
@atilliar 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video of the mini sniper game!
@ryan-mz6mx
@ryan-mz6mx 2 жыл бұрын
Just notice the FJB sticker in the back over half way in. Got one on my safe too.
@phebs0157
@phebs0157 2 жыл бұрын
You should just rock ski goggles in 2022 Nutn! Those specs you're sporting are a half measure.
@DixieLiving
@DixieLiving 2 жыл бұрын
💥HAPPY NEW YEAR NUTN & FAMILY!💥
@KniFz
@KniFz 2 жыл бұрын
I like the shades
@FMDad-dm5qo
@FMDad-dm5qo 8 ай бұрын
Basically the Savage .22LR magazine is adequate (not good), but the mags for the larger rimfire cartridges are a cluster.
@somedude2433
@somedude2433 2 жыл бұрын
Had the exact same gun. Sold it and it was the best thing I did with it. Used the money to get my boy an savage axis. Way better gun.
@mrrifleman1695
@mrrifleman1695 2 жыл бұрын
looks like a marlin 22mag,sept safety in not backwards,like my 782
@jerryjohnsonii4181
@jerryjohnsonii4181 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love my Savage Model 93R in 17 HMR caliber !!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's my Groundhog hunter rifle.
@johnvela1318
@johnvela1318 2 жыл бұрын
Hey nutin have u seen that henry .22 shotshell smooth bore rifle
@keithreh9338
@keithreh9338 2 жыл бұрын
your P.O.U. for bug out...optimally I would choose a marlin papoose; secondary choices would be the savage rascal or keystone cricket (these 2 are more affordable than a ruger 10/22 takedown)
@bearpaw9204
@bearpaw9204 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 93R17 and it’s a giant POS. The thing won’t feed for crap. I’ve tried 8 different mags, tried all the tricks for the mags, and it still sucks a$$. Either they ride to high, or too low…I’d give it away at this point
@timvest8141
@timvest8141 2 жыл бұрын
Good looking rifles. Shame you had problems.
@rtrilla
@rtrilla 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t make it through the video, got distracted and had to order that hat. 👍bigcartel
@panzerabwerkanone
@panzerabwerkanone 2 жыл бұрын
Seems the ten round mags work just fine. Once they are downloaded to five rounds!
@mdog1615
@mdog1615 2 жыл бұрын
Every 10 round savage rimfire mag I’ve ever had fed best with 2 rounds less than max in them. 22lr , 17hmr and 22mag. I have this 22mag minimalist, rifles great , the magazine let’s it down every time though.
@calholli
@calholli 2 жыл бұрын
24:38 What is "kangst" ?? I've never heard of that word before. lol
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