Wasnt Keith on heroin too in 77? Jimmy didnt get clean until early to mid 80s, not sure when Keith stopped

@@vicvega3614 Keef did so much that he's probably still got some in his system today. 🤣

@@A_Final_Hit Page and Clapton got clean way before that, in fact Clapton got Page into rehab, Clapton, Page, Jeff Beck, and Stevie Winwood were doing a tour in the early 80s called the Britain invasion tour and Page was so high he couldnt play and he was really skinny so Eric got him help.

@@vicvega3614 Cleaned up in 78 after his big bust in 77.

@@ed52369 yes you are right apparently it was cocaine that Keith continued to use until 2006, and he quit cigarettes in 2019, he still has an occasional drink usually vodka and orange soda 🤢 🤮

A Billion and six THANK YOUS. Keith is the MOST USELESS guitarist forever

​@@CraigMalon-xw9thright, right, you bloody well right

He did. He always had at least one other player who could actually hang. While Keith futzed around with his open tuning riffs the other guy (mick Taylor, Ronnie wood, etc.) would actually handle the “complicated” parts lol

Ronnie woods was better than Keith

Keef is good at coming up with riffs & grooves. Thats it

There are plenty nowadays that don’t like Led Zeppelin or even know them

Yes, I've said the same about The Beatles until I realized people all don't have the same likes and dislikes as me. Zeppelin stole a lot of their music and I don't find myself fascinated by them like my teen years.

Jealousy is a mf. Lots of the 60’s musicians got bitter that their star was fading as Zeppelin was on the rise.

@@robwood1987no it just doesn’t sound good to my ears can appreciate them as musicians though

@@timfool Approximately 10 songs are in contention: Stairway to Heaven (court case won by Zep), Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, Dazed and Confused, The Lemon Song, Bring it on Home, Since I've Been Loving You, Bron-Y-Aur Stomp, Hats of to Roy Harper, In My Time of Dying and Boogie with Stu. "i don't think anybody steals anything; all of us borrow" --B.B. King

Keith had made the comment when hearing Jimmy had a new band and heard a couple of the tracks that were recorded (before the album came out). Richards had stated many times he liked the guys alright in Zep but not the music. Same goes for Pete Townsend, who always ripped on Zep music. Interesting thing is, Page had played on early Who and Stones albums as the producers didn't like the respective bands guitar playing. Add to that, the Who almost lost Entwhistle and Moon who were fed up with the WHo's infighting and almost joined what would become Zeppelin. In each case The Stones and The Who, were two of the biggest bands at the time, both getting knocked off the top of the mountain once Zep hit the scene. More than a few in the business have said the negative comments towards Zep's music was sour grapes and being a bie jelly.

@@dlewtweentorla1210 good reply to my comment, I concur.

@@dlewtweentorla1210 Tell us about something Townsend doesn’t rip on.. here’s the thing.. if it weren’t for the low ceiling on that tiny stage the who might never of been so blessed.. Keith could play drums with anyone and it would be a blast.. The destruction of equipment that fed the flames of rock and roll happened quite by accident. On the far other hand Jimmy Page quite strategically evolved rock music and was extremely powerful in the direction of rock shows.. you may be too young to remember when small venues turned into stadium festival seating.. it wasn’t a Neil Pert acoustically perfect setting in the beginning of rock shows.. I saw Bowie on a 12” wooden stage in a new concrete convention center for Diamond Dogs and he hated the sound.. he told us so.. the phenomenon of Loud to reach the nose bleed crowd (multi functional goal) was perfected by 4 sticks.. everyone else listened and followed along..

​@@debmccorkle4845 I remember, your knowledge which I agree with completely, is such a breath of fresh air. Very few realize Jimmy's motivation beyond playing , from recording with so many different artists and styles, learning all he could about production and recording, and all at such a young age. Acquiring the knowledge, deciding to put a band together of like minded musicians that's loved music. Cheers !

Not the best... Different.

@@user-vl2lz9fk9yYes, they were different…because they were the best.

I love Keith and the Stones, but he was just jealous, imo.

Good point that. Zep had a certain pride that they could "handle anything between the 4 of us" - but it would have helped if Plant could have played guitar (or keyboard) as well, to ease the load on the other 3. I wouldn't want anyone taking the bass over from JPJ, he was essential working with John Bonham as he did

Jonesey has said that he had to cover a lot more ground live for songs like ALS.

Personal taste. Frank Zappa was amazing but I can't stand most of his music. Prince was perhaps the most talented musician in the last 100 years and while I like some of his songs, a lot of his stuff I don't like.

@@rrdream2400 good point 👍

​@rrdream2400 agreed. For me, when Prince " rocked " I loved him, but when he was more funk & soul, he lost me. Amazingly talented guy, though

Richard’s can play Robert Johnson songs on an acoustic guitar and they sound great. Keith is and always was a great guitarist, he chooses to play simple riffs because they fit the groove of the song better. Keith is the driving force behind the sound of The Rolling Stones. No working guitarist in competing bands of the time thought he was anything but the sound of the Stones. Great rhythm guitarists that seldom play leads are crucial to keeping a solid groove.

Led Zeppelin fans think because a guitar riff is more complicated it makes it better, yet the most iconic guitar riffs in rock history are the most simple ones. Focusing on if the music actually sounds good is the actual purpose.

Richard's can do it too. It's a choice you make in the studio. It's not hard to play over your own track. You have to decide. Can I Replicant this live?. If you don't mind if the record and live are different, then go ahead. This isn't about skill.

I love when fans of a band hate on others because they don't share the same taste

​@@alcaeus701 you're right. Zeppelin is just better as a band and weren't a washed up band

He plays all over the neck of the guitar. Keeeeef is a modern day maestro.

It's easy.

​@@langstonanderson6558how could anyone who loves rock n roll not like Led Zeppelin?

Biggest rip off artists ever

@@tankdiggs8974 yea except all the amazing lyrics melodies and complex chords they came up with, Sorry but Zeppelin moved way past simple 12 bar blues

@vicvega3614 theybstill ripped off more bands than anyone else ever. I'm jot saying they werent players. All 4 were top tier but I lose all the respect when I find out. How they they just robbed other artists blind. For multiple hits.

Thats an excellent point.

Keith is good, but he will never be AS GOOD as JIMMY PAGE!!!!!

Why would he want to?

Keith is more of a songwriter than a flashy guitarist which I respect a lot more.

He’s at least as good of a song writer, which is far more important than your ability to do fiddly bits up and down the neck.

​@@MountainBlade and you've never played guitar

@@MountainBlade- not even close. Led Zeppelin’s compositions are way more complex than anything Rolling Stones ever did.

@@JagshemasherComplexity does not equal quality. Both Paige and Richards have written some all time classic songs.

@@pinkled4429 I’m playing guitar with my band at a show tonight, I’m guessing you’ll be at home jerking off, enjoy that.

I'm a guitar player - a pretty good one - and it's not my favorite

I'm a pretty good one myself and that album did something for me bro, sorry you didn't have the same experience and I don't mean covers. I've never played one song off that album and never would.

What album is that?

@@mattbartolovich8228 Prescence

Yeah that's so overstated. Have the people who trot that line out actually listened to the original songs that Zeppelin 'stole'? They are basically entire new songs. 'Inspired by', at most.

I aint listen to pedophiles the o

Should they also get off your lawn? 😂

But it is true. They are shit and highly overrated.

Yea, like Eric Clapton, total musical poseur who doesn’t like lz

The inspiration for Heart's Barracuda.

He always did .

It doesn't matter, doesn't change the way Jimmy Page plays 100 better than Richard's.

Why? Does it really matter?

@@JiMMY-my1ds Point taken. Nothing really to be gained from the comment. But there's a lesson that there's an element of politics in the music industry that not all are aware of. I respect your question brother btw

it's a backhanded compliment. "hey buddy i like you but i think your work sucks..." richards is mighty jealous

Except the fact he has came up with a handful of some of the most iconic guitar riffs in rock history and is one of the most succeful songwriters with his partnership with Mick. But yeah other than that not much 🙄

@@sambakery2006 oh no now don't take anything away from him he was one of the biggest pop stars of the day hahaha. Just because he couldn't do progressive rock are Jazz Rock Fusion like Jeff Beck Jan akkerman Steve h o w e Allan Holdsworth Al Di Meola Joe Satriani. But you and I know that's just simplistic stuff anyone could do that but that pop stuff is really difficult hahaha I mean you can ask anyone about that It's Complicated music. I mean just ask Madonna Michael Jackson George Michael the Herman's Hermits Donny Osmond Karen Carpenter hahaha hahaha hahaha.. when it comes to Pure musicianship Emerson Lake and Palmer focus and yes why they just don't have anything on those pop rock Heroes of yours. LOL

@@sambakery2006 The Monkees hahaha. I didn't even know at the time I was making my comment hahaha boy did I ever hit the nail on the head. Freaking Mickey dolenz LOL you have got to be kidding me ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

@@edljnehan2811 Can you like name who you're talking about in you're comments. Makes then very confusing to understand.

@@edljnehan2811 Did I ever mention anything about The Monkees being top musicians. No I didn't lol. That's my profile picture because It's from a music video I find funny, that's it lol. Anyways it's just completely relevant to the conversation so don't get why you brought it up lol

Ha, good old Pat Smear. The happiest guy in rock music.

Yes indeed!

Literally speaking, both would sink in water due to the buoyancy issue.

Jimmy had two guitarists, he had John Paul Jones, an excellent multidimensional player.

Just look at him(Keith) you can see he has no taste😂

Yep. Zeppelin struggled live at times. A second guitarist would have helped.

Someone not caring for Bonhams drumming is some braindead shit.

Traumatized..😅😅

@@SlickArmor yep, Plant was a wreck, you can hear it in his voice, particularly on Achilles last stand. Smashed up physically.

NOBODY is arguing over who the better guitar player is. nobody in their right mind would say richards is even close to the greatest guitarist of all time - JIMMY PAGE

Royal Orleans gotta be one of em. But the others are somewhere between good and great.

I would have to disagree. Radioheads three guitarists make them the GOAT of today. If that could somehow make sense😂 Led Zeppelin and Radiohead the 2 GOATs. Oh and the Beatles. So's them are the 3 GOATs😂