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when should I pin deps: never and always! (intermediate) anthony explains

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anthonywritescode

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fine I'll make a video about it -- here's my stance on pinning dependencies and why I do what I do in the different scenarios.
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@sillybuttons925
@sillybuttons925 Жыл бұрын
poetry for sure spread the python_requires upper bound thing by defaulting to it.
@slippydouglas
@slippydouglas Жыл бұрын
Across all languages/platforms I’ve always followed the same rule: Don’t pin while in active new development; do pin for stable releases/branches/deployments. While in development you want to use the latest & greatest, and dealing with changes in underlying libs isn’t a huge deal. For stable releases you want to ensure that it will continue working exactly as-is, and underlying libs are only updated when you can ensure they fix bugs without anything in your app/deployment breaking.
@atugushev
@atugushev Жыл бұрын
Finally my favorite topic!
@karolinajankowska453
@karolinajankowska453 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this straightforward explanation!
@OrCarmi
@OrCarmi Жыл бұрын
Looking at the title, I was kinda expecting this to be a KZfaq Short with you just yelling "YES" 😂 All kidding aside, this was a great and very informative video! Thank you!
@AceofSpades5757
@AceofSpades5757 Жыл бұрын
This was very informative, thanks!
@kai3341
@kai3341 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for video. It's interesting oppinion.
@burnere633
@burnere633 Жыл бұрын
At 6:17 - pip-chill kind of does what you have in mind, I think.
@anthonywritescode
@anthonywritescode Жыл бұрын
yeah I'm not looking for tool suggestions -- I've already written what I have in mind once and when I actually need to solve the problem for myself again I'll rewrite it
@CreatingNull
@CreatingNull Жыл бұрын
Well I appreciate the comment, definitely going to have a look at the project.
@piercekelaita9583
@piercekelaita9583 3 ай бұрын
What's the advantage of including third party dependencies in your requirements for apps/microservices? Doesn't just including your first-party deps and pinning each to its version have the same effect, since it won't bump the third-party dep versions if first-party dep versions are not bumped?
@anthonywritescode
@anthonywritescode 3 ай бұрын
if transitive dependencies are not pinned pip will satisfy them with the newest version possible
@piercekelaita9583
@piercekelaita9583 3 ай бұрын
@@anthonywritescode Interesting! Great video.
@oleksandrpopovych4841
@oleksandrpopovych4841 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious why you didn't chose poetry or pipenv to have transitive dependencies locked? (I'm not familiar with piptools, so maybe it boils down to taste preferences)
@anthonywritescode
@anthonywritescode Жыл бұрын
why use a broken chainsaw when a screwdriver works fine
@sergeyf6536
@sergeyf6536 Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fdhpopt-vMXUkmQ.html
@TheAulto
@TheAulto Жыл бұрын
I can present a few reasons from my experience as to why I prefer piptools instead of poetry: - piptools pulls in 6 dependencies when installed. poetry pulls in 44. - piptools can live in the same environment as the dependencies it manages (actually it’s designed to be like this). poetry must live *outside* your environment, otherwise it’s going to remove a few of its many dependencies and commit sudoku in the process - poetry has changed their recommended installation method a few times and it’s still iffy, plus the fiasco of the intentional 5% chance to break when using the unsupported installation method That’s why I pick piptools
@Ash-qp2yw
@Ash-qp2yw Жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard anything good about poetry - especially when a single setup.cfg file does everything so much simpler without needing to learn a random bloated tool
@Squeemos
@Squeemos Жыл бұрын
I know this is unrelated to the video, but have you seen PEP 703? And if so, what are your thoughts on it?
@anthonywritescode
@anthonywritescode Жыл бұрын
yeah I covered it long before it became a PEP: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bM1nbNR4ttWWXYU.html
@Robert-en8zm
@Robert-en8zm Жыл бұрын
what keyboard is that?
@sinamobasheri
@sinamobasheri Жыл бұрын
Hey Anthony 👋🏻, don't do that! Don't do the thumbnail face!, KZfaq is full of that and believe me most of thumbnail face videos have a shitty content but your content is valuable, pleas reconsider videos thumbnail
@Ash-qp2yw
@Ash-qp2yw Жыл бұрын
It’s well noted that they tend to attract more clicks than other thumbnail designs (go listen to Linus Sebastian talk about them - he hates them but still uses them because they generate more money)
@anthonywritescode
@anthonywritescode Жыл бұрын
it tripled my metrics
@sinamobasheri
@sinamobasheri Жыл бұрын
@@anthonywritescode wow so people are really in to the shocked! faces 😶‍🌫️
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