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When should you use Cure #1 and Cure #2 Q&A

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2 Guys & A Cooler

2 Guys & A Cooler

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@stevevet3652
@stevevet3652 3 жыл бұрын
You can read this info a hundred times and not really understand it. You have a natural instructor ability. You make it easier to understand. Thanks.
@autodidact9122
@autodidact9122 3 жыл бұрын
Really great video Eric. I’ve been playing around with cured meats for a couple of years now and this is the clearest most concise explanation of the difference between cure # 1 and cure # 2. Thank you.
@liviogirotto6432
@liviogirotto6432 2 жыл бұрын
I have to praise your work, not only with the videos, but for the way that you manage the comments. Reading the comments people learn the details. It seems to me that you have grown a fine group of followers, who ask interesting questions, that you answer properly. Thanks.
@basilbickford5906
@basilbickford5906 2 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for that information it will help me a lot. Keep up the great work Eric you’re an amazing teacher.
@davidnestico932
@davidnestico932 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic description. I’m just getting started with curing meat, and you presented the concepts in an easy to understand method. Thanks Again
@anthonyshepherd3908
@anthonyshepherd3908 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, absolutely on the live question and answer project! Love your work!
@eddyg3972
@eddyg3972 2 жыл бұрын
FINALLY! Some clarification! Thank you for making this video.
@paulero3537
@paulero3537 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for simplifying this. I put off making dry cured meats or a long time because I didn't know which cure to use.
@jamesellsworth9673
@jamesellsworth9673 3 жыл бұрын
THANKS for teaching a simple and comprehensive understanding of these two primary curing mixes.
@mladeng7016
@mladeng7016 3 жыл бұрын
Its a shame that only 500 people clicked this video, never mind Eric keep up a good work, this is awesome explanation. Although in europe we use nitrite salt with 0.5 to 0.9 ,percent , for your recepies I have to do some math.
@MrSimonj1970
@MrSimonj1970 3 жыл бұрын
Great info, kudos for keeping it together and not making a single slip!
@paulhodgson9178
@paulhodgson9178 3 жыл бұрын
Another Great and Informative Video. Your explanations on this topic are excellent.
@SmokinJoesPitBBQ
@SmokinJoesPitBBQ 3 жыл бұрын
Great info Eric. 👍
@SainiBadwalUSA
@SainiBadwalUSA Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Basically number one is for most home recipes.
@drewrobinson9120
@drewrobinson9120 3 жыл бұрын
Love how this guy is out here teaching people how to safely make their own cured meats. Bravo! Too few know how to preserve foods now, and it is a shame. I am curious as to how using coarse salts (kosher salt, big flaky sea salts) as opposed small salts (pickling, non-iodized table) effects the curing process.
@ethangrewe583
@ethangrewe583 3 жыл бұрын
it wouldn't if you're weighing it
@drewrobinson9120
@drewrobinson9120 3 жыл бұрын
@@ethangrewe583 i know weight wise it does not matter. More curious because kosher salt does not dissolve as easily as pickling salt or even table salt, especially when the temperature of the mixture is on the lower side. I am guessing, because of its large flake size. So does kosher salt dissolve fast enough to mix thoroughly during the mixing of sausage or should you use pickling salts (other small crystal salts)?
@tilothegreek
@tilothegreek Жыл бұрын
❤ Thanks for this video Eric. I messaged you on your website but this answered all my questions. Keep up the great work!!
@marcelog.2916
@marcelog.2916 10 ай бұрын
Impossible not to understand the differences! Gr8 vid as always 🎉🎉🎉
@presidentoxford
@presidentoxford 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. For many a thin ice wary. Love your energy.
@leazzel7
@leazzel7 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such an informative video. So glad I watched this before preparing a corn beef.
@ZenaHerbert
@ZenaHerbert 2 жыл бұрын
This is a brilliantly simple explanation, thank you
@kaiokaio
@kaiokaio 4 ай бұрын
Hello. You have very good recipes and manner of presenting them in your videos. Please, can you tell for how long approximately can be stored vacuumed ready finished (35% loss) with added cure no.1 for Capocollo, Spanish lomo, Braseola and Calabrian pork. Thank you in advance.
@jimduffy9773
@jimduffy9773 3 жыл бұрын
Love your site. The recopies are wonderful and varied. Love being able to adjust for the weight of my meats. If you can consider a live Q&A where questions are submitted before the session, it will flow better. It can get really boring watching a tuber saying hello to everyone as the roll into the chat. It's my American attention span, sorry. You have a great site.
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I think for my first one I'll come to the table with topics of discussion and if any questions come up I'll try to address them there or on the next Q&A
@neilcordeiro
@neilcordeiro Жыл бұрын
Excellent video...thanks for the clarification...another question I would ask is whether high heat reacts with sodium nitrite creating these cancerous stuff...eg frying bacon...a lot of people seem to be mentioning this...
@BriggsStratton11
@BriggsStratton11 9 ай бұрын
2:35 Cuts to the chase
@ferdinandpio9535
@ferdinandpio9535 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for that great info on using cure #1&2.
@TSAMP1000
@TSAMP1000 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video.. very good explanation...you have help me a lot
@LoraxChannel
@LoraxChannel 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for a complete and accurate description. Can you provide your advice on a general rule for the amount of each cure to use by weight (in ratio to the weight of meat used, preferably in G and KG). Even the sausage maker uses volume measures in their instructions, which imo is a horrible way to get an exact measurement. I've been making dry cured meats for about a year, and there is so much bad information out there. It's frankly shocking, and often unsafe. I've even seen people recommending the use of both 1 and 2 in the same recipe. I remember the difference between one and two by thinking 1 is like an i, so it's nitr i te. Cure number 2 has 2 ingredients, nitrite AND nitrate. Your videos are excellent, and much needed. I might go elsewhere to explore recipes, but I always double check your videos to ensure safety. I can't recommend them enough.
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 7 ай бұрын
Thank you. The most common recommendation is .25% by the weight of the meat or 2.5grams per kilo of meat
@toddachten2224
@toddachten2224 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Eric! I have seen so many questions arise lately in the online forums over cures. I wish that you would have added Morton Quick Tender to this video too.
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Todd. That's a very unique product. Maybe I'll get my hands on some of it and make a special video.
@northernbohemianrealist1412
@northernbohemianrealist1412 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I want to see a video about Morton Tender Quick. It's readily available locally. Thank you!
@darryl1755
@darryl1755 3 жыл бұрын
Just the imformation i wanted to hear! Thanks
@robertlundquist5450
@robertlundquist5450 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative and easy to understand. Thank you.
@fgtherapeutic3460
@fgtherapeutic3460 Жыл бұрын
Excellent information....what happens if you cure at a lower temperature, the time frame may be extended past the 30 days. which one #1 or #2
@chrispyk4456
@chrispyk4456 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, very comprehensive!
@cannistershot2277
@cannistershot2277 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation! I learned something new at the end regarding Nitrate Oxide gases. The only thing I wish you'd mentioned is to carefully measure the Cure based on the weight of the product being cured per the instructions on the cure (recipes sometimes get it wrong due to misprints or ignorance). My biggest pet peeve on cured meat trends lately are all the cured meats in the store labeled 'nitrite/nitrate free' which are made with celery powder/juice - a source of nitrite. ;) It's like labeling something 'salt free' and then listing 'Sodium Chloride' on the ingredient list instead of 'Salt'...
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Such deceptive marketing. I think I'll cover that specific topic in an upcoming video..
@noahpetersen7514
@noahpetersen7514 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation!! Thank you sir!!
@d.haroldangel241
@d.haroldangel241 4 ай бұрын
Awesome explanation !!!
@shonawilson8040
@shonawilson8040 11 ай бұрын
Very good description!
@ronnieyalung
@ronnieyalung 2 жыл бұрын
Very well explained thanks
@rayandkarinlee3763
@rayandkarinlee3763 Жыл бұрын
So helpful! Thankyou
@MysticDonBlair
@MysticDonBlair 3 жыл бұрын
I moved to Turkey. Now if I want pork products, I have to make it myself. Thanks for the videos 😊👍
@MysticDonBlair
@MysticDonBlair 3 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness I found a pig farmer
@DL101ca
@DL101ca 2 жыл бұрын
Try turkey products...😜
@crispyfishstick
@crispyfishstick Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I've done this wrong a few times now.
@charlesa3374
@charlesa3374 3 жыл бұрын
Very well done Eric! I must throw out a question (only because I'm one of your more annoying fans as you already know!) about starter cultures and nitrates/nitrites. I have followed your recent recipe for chorizo which turned out excellent! I stuff the mince into hog casings (about 34mm) and use Instacure #1 because I find that after 2 weeks the chorizos are ready to consume (sort of semi-soft as I like it). I used SPX starter culture for several reasons...1) I don't have Flavor of Italy and 2) I like the fermenting time/temperature of the SPX as well as the flavor of the end process. My question is this...I seem to have discovered that I shouldn't be using Instacure #1 with this particular culture and should instead, use something like F-LC (don't like the fermenting parameters). Am I doing something wrong by using this starter culture or can I safely continue with this 'recipe'(Instacure #1 plus SPX)? Making a fresh batch this week and would appreciate knowing if I'm doing this correctly. Thanks so much in advance....
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 3 жыл бұрын
Great question. TSPX is labeled like that because 95% of all salami that people will make at home generally takes longer than a month to make. But there is 5% of salami that's being made at home that takes less than a month to make. Like in your case chorizo. Cure #1 is totally acceptable to use under these circumstances. Keep on Meating on!!
@charlesa3374
@charlesa3374 3 жыл бұрын
@@2guysandacooler Thanks Eric...makes perfect sense to me....will 'pull out' the T-SPX this week! LOL
@vaazig
@vaazig 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Eric!
@mvurquiza
@mvurquiza 2 жыл бұрын
I get your point, but knowing that Cure#2 has both nitrates and nitrites I feel more comfortable with using #1 for cooked and #2 for aged. IMHO it's just a simpler approach. Good job!
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
If you make an aged sausage with cure #2 and it takes less than 30 days to finish, just be sure to vac seal th eproduct and wait till th efull 30 days have passed before consuming...
@joshuawilliams6828
@joshuawilliams6828 6 ай бұрын
On the right hand side of the last screen shots of your video there is red on it. Good video thought i want just a plain ham recipe please.
@bigkelu224
@bigkelu224 Жыл бұрын
Hey, what about guanciale, you should use cure#2 since the production time is way longer than 30 days but you must cook it when making carbonara? Is it safe to cook it?
@davidnewland3211
@davidnewland3211 6 ай бұрын
What a great video !!
@danmiragliotta7660
@danmiragliotta7660 7 ай бұрын
Hey thanks so much for your videos they are so informative and I've learned so much just by watching and listening to you. I understand now much more about cures one and cures 2 but my question is if I use cure number one for sausage and I wait the two days before I put my meat that I'm not going to cook in the freezer but I don't eat that meat for 4 months down the road should I have used car number 2 or does it not matter since it was frozen and still only use cure number one Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your family
@phil1628
@phil1628 2 жыл бұрын
Great video (again), what is meant by processing time - if something is ready to eat in 30 or less days but is not going to be consumed for a while longer e.g a big slab of bacon will take a while to get though, would you still use no.1?
@joeycook1505
@joeycook1505 Жыл бұрын
If your doing a wet cure with instacure #1 and it calls for 3 oz per gallon of water and you don’t have enough to cover your meat. Can you just top up with water or do you need to make up another 1 gallon batch with 3oz again. Thanks
@cobrajoe2001
@cobrajoe2001 2 жыл бұрын
Great info Thanks 😊
@jtb9544
@jtb9544 7 ай бұрын
Great explanation and video very informative! I do have a question about #2 and cooking. I am about to start two projects, a country ham and a pancetta, both will age over the 30 days. But I would like to eat both in their raw state as well as in cooked preparations. You said #2 isn’t for cooked meats, is that a hard and fast rule and if so is there a solution?
@ThirteenKidsLater
@ThirteenKidsLater 3 ай бұрын
QUESTION: Nope still confused for the projects I am trying to do. I want to preserve meats long term off-grid using both a brine barrel method as well as dry salt packing meats. I’m struggling to find reliable information on how to do this. I want to use Prague powder to inhibit botulism, but presume they would be “cured” and “ready” to eat within a 30 day window while I want the ability to store them much longer than that. And so I’m still not certain which one I would want.
@TaterSaladz
@TaterSaladz Жыл бұрын
Love your video's. What's the deal with the prison fence in the background?
@robertlong4118
@robertlong4118 Жыл бұрын
Ok o want to make venison ring bologna . I’ve looked at a ton of recipes for it . Where I’m at they use Morton tender quick . All the recipes have different amounts for the same quantity . What would the proper amount of cure for a 10 to 15 lbs batch? Also would tender quick be call instacure #1 . Thanks for you help Eric .
@kb1cki
@kb1cki Жыл бұрын
Great advice didn’t know that
@carsonscreations7865
@carsonscreations7865 3 жыл бұрын
Hey great video, thanks for responding to my questions, you're basically my go to for instruction. I have an in depth question that you may have touched on but I have recently made a cacciatore salami and was fermented and now in curing chamber for about 12 days, it will probably lose its 40% within a day or two. It was a thinner approx. 25mm(1") casing so I expected to be done this quick (80%RH, 55*F). However, I did use Cure #2 for it and I have also seen this video a while ago and knew the Cure#1 up to one month, then Cure#2 for longer processing time. My intentions though were to vacuum seal and let equalize for a month after the drying was done so it will be eaten at around the 45 day from stuffing mark. Will I be safe to eat this? It is looking perfect and smells wonderful and firming up fantastic and would hate to have to toss it. What's your thoughts....
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 3 жыл бұрын
You have nothing to worry about. The added time in the fridge is sufficient to convert the remaining nitrates/nitrites. Eat it with confidence
@raymondruss652
@raymondruss652 3 ай бұрын
Hi Eric, I am one of the fan of your channel and I subscribed in the last few weeks and start making some pepperoni salami and chorizo but my dilemma, is I live in Thailand and I search for starter culture and it seems that I cannot find under that name. Is there any other name that I can look up and find for making pepperoni, and chorizo and etc.? thanks again and love your channel chairs.
@spiceboysconti301
@spiceboysconti301 3 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great work
@chrissmith9974
@chrissmith9974 3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys liked everyone of your videos and subscribed with no hesitation awesome work guys. Question? I Picked up a sling of I'm thinking deer salami from a friend he got from a meat processing shop. When he gave it to me he said it already had been hanging in his cool pole barn but I needed to continue to let it hang for another 30 days. The processing place used a mahogany casing where most deer sausages and things are used. After full curing stage /ready to eat, the casing shrinks slot and the salami is very very hard, but delicious. Is there a process where they take the Salami right from the cold smoker and can hang in a cool atmosphere to age. From seeing my buddies Barn where he had 50 of these small slings of salami from the processing, I can't imagine the processing place having a chamber with everybody's sausage in it as far as room. That's what makes me think they cold smoke it and then send you on your way to let it hang at home. Trying to figure out this process when I process my own deer next year into dry hard salami. I have a curing chamber but there's no way I'll ever build one big enough to cure that much deer salami.
@jacqueshuber1562
@jacqueshuber1562 Жыл бұрын
Hi Eric,making some fermented cold smoke summer sausage in muslin cloth in 21/2 to 3” in diameter I use #1 cure because the s.s. is hung @ 13c for 24 to 28 days after smoking and is dry enough ready to eat,what I am not sure of is they say it should be shelf stable for a long time should I be adding #2 cure?
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler Жыл бұрын
cure #2 doesn't make something shelf stable. Cure #2 offers chemical protection against certain pathogens while it's drying (which is one of the things that make meat shelf stable). If you can reach shelf stability in less than 30 days then you can use cure #2. BTW PH also makes things shelf stable. What was your final ph? If it was less that 4.6 congrats.... You are good to go.
@jacqueshuber1562
@jacqueshuber1562 Жыл бұрын
@@2guysandacooler I think you meant cure #1 if I can reach shelf stable in 30 days?My final ph was4.7 was not sure if any lower the sausage would taste vinegary,at what ph does sausage get to acidic 4.4 4.5 ph? Looking for a tangy taste. Thanks Jacques
@user-jd2tp1qs7k
@user-jd2tp1qs7k 3 ай бұрын
Can you help me please. I purchased a pork belly and want to make bacon. This is the curing salt the butcher gave me. Martin’s Canadian Tender Knick. Label reads… For home meat curing. All types of meat products, especially small cuts of meat. NOT A TENDERIZER Net Wt: 907g (2 LB) Sodium Nitrite (0.5 %) Sodium Nitrate (0.5 %) Refrigerate 4-6 hours (NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR CURE #1) Says for bacon also but according to your video would this not be #2?
@disablebutnotunablehomesteader
@disablebutnotunablehomesteader Жыл бұрын
Silly Question can we do a taste test immediately when using cure #2 for sausages? For example if we are preparing the ingredients and taste before putting the sausage in the casing. Can we taste the mixed meat which has cure #2 in it? Or is it dangerous? How to do a taste test then? Thank you so much
@basilvictor9249
@basilvictor9249 2 жыл бұрын
Great. We'll presented, I like the beard tbh. But great work all round and very informative. Thank you.
@HYPNOTIZEMINDS100
@HYPNOTIZEMINDS100 2 жыл бұрын
Great video . Can I use cure number one in the making of salt beef where I but the beef in a salt brine for 7 days ?
@jonh2045
@jonh2045 9 ай бұрын
Tnx
@marianosantopinto
@marianosantopinto 10 ай бұрын
great work
@patrickandmarlabaxter7039
@patrickandmarlabaxter7039 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation! What is the best source to determine the correct amount of cure #1 per pound of meat (venison, beef, pork, etc)
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
it depends on what version of cure #1 you are using and in what country you live. In North America, typically .25% is used or 1 level tsp per 5 pounds of meat.
@andrewsedlakmusic1722
@andrewsedlakmusic1722 5 ай бұрын
So I made a coppacola recently using your recipe for in the fridge, using aging wrap. It was a very small cut of muscle...less than a pound. I started the cure using #2 on Feb 7...cured a few days and then wrapped and hung in fridge...my target weight was reached on March 1....could I have used #1?...and also should I have? I'm concerned the Nitrate may not have turned to gas with the short processing time
@zzanzak
@zzanzak Жыл бұрын
What’s up with the razor wire?
@alexanderchernosvitov4559
@alexanderchernosvitov4559 Жыл бұрын
dear Eric, thank you very nice video.if I want to make a billon.long term storage, is it worth making an ambassador based on instacure#1?
@gettingpast4391
@gettingpast4391 2 жыл бұрын
What about curing pork loin without a casing? excess Salt or calculated amount of cure #1?
@DavidAguilar-be1ki
@DavidAguilar-be1ki Жыл бұрын
If I’m marinating my meat for 24 hours. Cooking in a dehydrator at 165f, vacuum sealing right away with an oxygen bag. Should I use a curing salt ? If so how much per pound?
@user-kf2yf5uy3m
@user-kf2yf5uy3m 7 ай бұрын
Question: When using Cure#2 for salami, do you mix the #2 with sea salt in the salami mix? Or just the #2?
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 7 ай бұрын
Yes. The recipe will have both salt and cure. Usually salt at a ratio of 2.5% and cure at a ratio of .25%
@AW12333
@AW12333 2 жыл бұрын
Not clear on what to use if your processing time from start to ready to consume is just two weeks but you are not planning on consuming for months, e. g., making sausage for Easter in November.
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
Cure 1
@jamiescott9482
@jamiescott9482 3 жыл бұрын
Q&A would be great but time zones will hurt as I’m in Australia.
@domenicomagnelli9593
@domenicomagnelli9593 3 жыл бұрын
Great info! What cure would you normally use if your are making a small diameter salami that ordinarily would be ready within 3.5 weeks but you choose to leave it curing in your chamber for 4-6 weeks to get a much firmer texture and drier product?
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 3 жыл бұрын
I would still use cure #1. The cure protects the meat during the most dangerous time where water activity is high and the chance of contamination is high. If you have something that will be ready (shelf stable) in 3.5 weeks then the water activity is low enough to hinder bad bacterial growth. With that being said if you didn't plan on eating it immediately you could use cure #2
@DamEngineer
@DamEngineer Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information. By the way, interesting background with the razor wire fence. It appears you either filmed this from prison or California. :)
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler Жыл бұрын
I got a little time in the yard for good behavior😉
@LoraxChannel
@LoraxChannel 7 ай бұрын
A quick question about moisture. Is taking a product to the recommended water loss a safety issue, or simply a preference? I'm asking because I like cured meats very wet by most people's standards.
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 7 ай бұрын
It's about shelf stability. The more moisture that is lost the more shelf stable it is. 30% is considered a safe and wet spot. While 40% is considered dry
@DavidAguilar-be1ki
@DavidAguilar-be1ki Жыл бұрын
Sounds like I Would I use cure #1 for jerky?
@peterngo7637
@peterngo7637 3 жыл бұрын
I have started several projects including some muscles that weigh just under 2 pounds. They are curing in the fridge for 1-2 weeks right now. I only had cure 1 at home and used that. The question is: can I apply Bactoferm or another agent during the dry curing step to offer more protection if my meat is going to be dry curing for >31 days?
@karnoge1
@karnoge1 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Eric! What if you use cure #2 instead of cure#1 when something will be finished drying within 30 day?
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 3 жыл бұрын
Just vac seal it and place it in your fridge for a week. It will be fine. What we don't want to do is consume unconverted nitrates/nitrites. If you use cure #2 in a product that is finished in less than a month there could be unconverted nitrates/nitrites in it. Allowing it to sit in your fridge for a week or two will ensure that you are eating a safe product..
@jamesherndon2108
@jamesherndon2108 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Eric great videos BTW..I do have a question about cureing salt #1 or #2 we always sample our sausage before stuffing into casings..is it safe to sample after you just added #1 to your recipe before it had time to blend or do its thing?? thanks for your help.
@DL101ca
@DL101ca 2 жыл бұрын
Number 2 you have to be careful about, but the nitrate content in nr2 isn't high enough to be harmful unless you're consuming large amounts.
@Harbicide
@Harbicide Жыл бұрын
I use the UMAI process for Sopresetta and Chorizo with Instacure #2. The Chorizo dried to 40% loss in 17 days. Is it safe to eat at this point?
@stephensymes2846
@stephensymes2846 3 жыл бұрын
hi from australia i have a question on the best way to store dryed meats for example can i keep in the fridge and for how long what is the best way to wrap e.g vacuum seal or are there better ways
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 3 жыл бұрын
I would store them in a vac sealed bag in the fridge for a maximum of 4 months. If longer you can freeze them.. If you do this though you have to remove the mold from the salami first..
@peterschumann661
@peterschumann661 Жыл бұрын
MEN YOU MAKE MY DAY
@danielpellegrino6249
@danielpellegrino6249 Жыл бұрын
Hi, sorry to come on an older vid of you ... someone gave a so called curing salt as a sample and mentioned on it ... NITRATE SALT ... however, watching you vid Nitrate is featured in Cure2 alond with Nitrite ... so ... is there a curing salt with NITRATE only?? ... hope you see this comment and can help me out on this please. Thanks and much appreciated
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler Жыл бұрын
Normally nitrate salts also have nitrite in it
@JHBH70
@JHBH70 10 ай бұрын
Are the cure amounts the same with a wet brine?
@bigkelu224
@bigkelu224 Жыл бұрын
Hello, How about if my salami is ready in lets say 3 weeks so I use #1 but I cant eat the whole batch in the following 1 week and I plan to store it for a few months in the fridge, is it safe or should I use #2? Thanks!!
@danieldjerdjerian9169
@danieldjerdjerian9169 Ай бұрын
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@dcaitous
@dcaitous 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I’ve done a I capocollo with a dry age steak wrap I’m not sure how to get a hold are you but I’ve got some questions I let it cure for two weeks it’s been in the fridge after the cure since 8 January there’s green mold on it a couple little spots and some spots of white mold I feel like it’s ruined could you shed any light pleaseIf there’s someway I can send you a picture I’d like to
@davekibble3556
@davekibble3556 Жыл бұрын
Do curing salts expire? Will they last longer stored in the freezer?
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler Жыл бұрын
they don't expire
@marksabota4056
@marksabota4056 Жыл бұрын
If I make sausages and then cook them in the next two days. So it will be safe to use cure #1? 0.25% of it's weight? Thx Eric!
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler Жыл бұрын
Yes
@jjcaiv
@jjcaiv 3 жыл бұрын
Live stream would be great!
@browserZ24
@browserZ24 9 ай бұрын
Any info on using pink curing salt number 1 for braising?
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 9 ай бұрын
You can, but you would have to let the meat rest overnight in the fridge before cooking
@browserZ24
@browserZ24 9 ай бұрын
@@2guysandacooler thank you! Of course I would brine it then braise. Thanks!
@mileskirsch8880
@mileskirsch8880 3 жыл бұрын
Let me start out by saying that I have watched most of your videos and they are Awesome. I am going to Jump in with both feet to start trying to make some of the Amazing (Dried/Fermented) Salami and Sausage you are making. I have been making sausage for 40 years and want to up my game and have the home time to do it nowadays. I'm looking to buy a ph meter and equipment to build a Chamber and Inkbird ITC-308 Temperature Controller and IHC-200 Humidity Controller Combo. Look at the Apera Instruments AI3713 PH60S-Z Smart Spear pH Tester for Food and Solid Sampling pH Measurement its a bit pricy and see on the sausage makers site they have a MILWAUKEE PH METER. What are your thoughts on the Milwaukee Meter?
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Miles. Thank you and welcome to the club😁 The ph Meter that TSM sells is a little dated IMHO. The probe that it comes with is really better for testing liquid samples so you would have to add the meat probe to the set up. I'm also not a fan of the temperature controller as you have to adjust the temperature for each sample depending on what you are testing. I think it only reads in Celsius. The ph Meter you mentioned is the one I use but they have the Model PH60S amzn.to/3kunDPY which i think is on sale on amazon. That model is just just like the PH60S-Z but with out the phone app Bluetooth features. The base PH60S is a great model that automatically accounts for temperature fluctuations. Just my thoughts
@marksabota4056
@marksabota4056 2 жыл бұрын
Is Cure #1 up to 30days only counts once it's dry hanging or it even counts as while the meat is curing in the sealed bag for two weeks in fridge. Because you only mention 3-3.5weeks drying.
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
if it takes your meat 2 weeks to cure (in the fridge) then it's too large for cure #1. You would need cure #2. Cure # 1 is for smaller cuts that will be dry cured like duck breast, or pork tenderloin. These only take several days to cure in the fridge and the drying time is less than 1 month...
@awesomedn
@awesomedn Жыл бұрын
Is there a minimum curing time for the cure #1? Sounds like there should be, because not all nitrite may get converted otherwise
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler Жыл бұрын
12 hours
@BronsonWally
@BronsonWally 3 жыл бұрын
I make salami in 32mm hog casings, using cure number 2, it usually takes less than 30 days to finish up, however I then keep in the fridge vac sealed for months, how concerned should I be ? Will the nitrate keep converting when it is in the fridge vac sealed ?
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't worry at all. Nitrates/nitrites keep converting even in a vac bag in the fridge so all is well.
@boblab
@boblab 2 жыл бұрын
When you say ready, does that mean eaten? Dries sausage can be ready in 30 days but not eaten for weeks after that. Thanks
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
When I say "ready" it means "at the point when the sausage is ready to be eaten. Not necessarily when you eat it..
@sherylintheraw
@sherylintheraw 3 жыл бұрын
But here is something I never hear discussed or explained clearly - the adding of a cure to (wet) pickle cured meat preservation like salted pigs tails, beef, lamb or pork riblets, and others that you plan on storing IN brine long term. The curing time is under 30 days but it sits in liquid for weeks, months or a year+ even..is it still cure #1? No one talks about wet cure..I might be the only person consuming it.🤷
@BronsonWally
@BronsonWally 3 жыл бұрын
Good question.
@gregwithoneg
@gregwithoneg 3 жыл бұрын
I wondered about that and also what if you want to store just liquid like bone broth? Should you use curing salts in the broth?
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 3 жыл бұрын
LOL Great question. Cure is typically added as a safety step and to preserve the color. Often you will see the addition of an ingredient called Sodium Erythorbate or Ascorbic Acid. These are cure accelerators that also act as antioxidants. Once cured the meat is then cooked till it becomes very tender then it's placed into a pickling solution. The solution's pH is so low that harmful bacteria will not grow in it. This along with the added salt is how it's preserved for so long. The cure is mainly there for color preservation and texture..
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