I get the feeling Toast is always 100% prepared to throw down the instant someone wants to discredit Shrek

If I never watched shrek again for the next 50 years I don't believe that I would forget a single thing about it. I still remember being like 10 and jumping on my bed at the end and singing "I'm a believer" at the top of my lungs. And I'm nearly 24

The first Shrek movie is literally important to animated cinema and is a movie so significant in its depature from what people assumed you could do with animation that it prompted the oscar to start valuing animated films and detecate an entire category to them. Shrek won the first ever best animated picture oscar. Its also wildly flanderized the disney approach to animated storytelling that it helped give way to much different approaches as far as main stream western animation is concerned.

I love this duo.

This would be the last time Sydney was ever seen.....

I've always seen Toast as an angry grandma who uses games as an excuse to insult his friends, but he is so right about Shrek, not as a meme, that saga is so fucking good

lol these two are content gold

This is why i love Syd

Syd's points are so on point.

The audacity 😮 Shrek is a master piece

The things that will rile up Toast LUL

tbf lotr spawned some pretty legendary memes too, so technically it'd be a tie when it comes to the meme legacy category.

I always saw Shrek as a parody of Disney. The creator of DreamWorks hated the CEO (named Michael Eisner) for disagreements of buying the IP. Dude, farquaad is a self-insert by the DW creator referring to Eisner as a ****wad. I now understand the jokes as an adult.

Shrek popularized using pop music on an animated movie. It created an entire plethora of films that revolves around improving a scene by using pop songs instead of using a bespoke song written for that scene. It was literally cutting edge cinema.

There is no way Toast actually thinks that Shrek is better then The Lord of the Rings.

Toast can disrespect the LOTR movie, but him and the whole core of OTV kind of owes their career to the Lord of the Rings IP, it was highly influential in the making of Warcraft and from that initial tree spawned WoW, DOTA, League of Legends, & Hearthstone which are the games that put the core of OTV on the map.

I'm torn between who's right here, they both are making valid points. But like Lord of the Rings

So toast doesn't know Johnny5

Shrek influenced many other animated movies of the era. LOTR redefined cinema, and is the benchmark for which epic fantasy movies/shows are compared. The most recent of which being Game of Thrones, and the colossal failure to measure up.

Shrek is a meme, speak facts Syd!

Shadow of Mordor. How those Shrek video games doing? Case closed.

I'm on Syd on this one!

Crocs choosing shrek and not LOTR is valid.

Isn’t return of the king tied for having the most oscar wins?

toast is stating facts on that, LOTR is a slow pick up but shrek exploded

I actually agree with Toast on the song being in Mario. Took me out of the movie for a bit. Not to the same degree, but similar.

Dude Spirited Away came out in 2001 too. I agree with a user that said, "Toast is delusional and copium when it comes to Shrek, but we still like him for who he is" xD

Toast absolutely dismantled syd in that debate xdd

Are they both on OTK Guild thing?

"My precious." Is probably more recognizable than any line from any Shrek movie. Shrek's biggest impact to me was probably having a lot of big named celebrities with large notarity at the time doing the voice acting, I could be mistaken though I just can't think of any other animations to do it before. Shrek 1 and the LotR series are all solid films though you can't go wrong with either.

If Im Syd id show Toast the scene where they parody Frodo ring mishaps in the bree. . LoTR so good Shrek referenced it.

Love how sydeon and Toast interact. But Shrek franchise is are generational than LoTR and Harry Potter

Sydney wants war? She actually declares war on the whole internet? Not even USA, Russia and China COMBINED have the gall to do something so reckless Sydney, RIP in Shrek

Is it relevant because it's memed or is it memed because it's relevant? 😎

Does Toast know that All Star song wasn't for Shrek? Shrek stole that song Mystery Men like Mario stole "I need a Hero" from Shrek

Shrek is fine. Shrek 2 is flawless.

I mean even finding Nemo was a good kids movie for my generation but Shrek was really a both kinda thing.

*old guy walks into the internet* Thinks: *oh that damn shrek meme again* Thinks harder: *wait the reason it’s a meme is because these persons on the internet where like 4 when it came out. That means it was that one movie they watched over and over because they where kids* *i was in high school for shrek* *feels old and creepy* Well at least that explains the meme going to go ahead and state as a millennial aka the generation that first had to deal with this bullshit EVER that the entire internet is fair game. Sure there’s some places you can be too old for like let’s say Minecraft or Fortnite or club fucking pingüino but KZfaq? Nah KZfaq comments? Nah i think it’s a safe space. I HAVE SPOKEN

Icl toast is right

I side with Toast on this one. Shrek killed 2D animation and forever changed cinema. LOTR is about a guy with hairy feet who spends 3 movies walking to a volcano 😴

Ahh😅

LotR changed the whole Fantasy genre forever. It inspired DnD, which also changed the whole genre forever. No big deal.

Imo harry potter is a level of its own but shrek was insane and things like monster inc / lotr / finding nemo werent at the same level although they were all great movies.

OKAY SHREK 4 IS CINEMA . SHREK 1, 2, and 4 are great movies. Shrek 3 is mid.

Toast.... Oh Toast... claiming Rings of Power is based on Lord of the Rings... When Amazon couldn't get any rights to the Silmarillion and decided to MAKE UP THEIR OWN FIRST AND SECOND AGE. Dude. Out of touch.

rare L sydney opinion

I was with toast, Shrek has its merits in its contributions to animated media. But it's not the most influential in that regard. Only recently are other major US studios moving away from the "Pixar style". Then he slandered LOTR and lost all his credibility. Lol.

Rings of Power is good

Memes = relevency, the fact that it's been meme'd for all these years is proof of its impact. What she yappin bout?

what's funny is that jk rowling is right. she's asking people to be sensible and not let men invade real women spaces. like sports. and locker rooms. but they're bulldozing over real women's achievements and spaces.

LOTR is so boring. The hole plot is just walking to throw a ring away. Even the fucking trees are walking.

Shrek outshined both LOR and Monster Inc. Ranking number 2 in the US. Shrek 2 out performed Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, and Spiderman 2. I see it as iconic and Shrek is known for creating major change. Of course I'm a magic loving gay, so I had posters of Daniel Radcliffe growing up instead of Shrek. 😂 Also of the guys from Twilight lmao