When to ENTER & EXIT the Stock Markets | 50 Day Moving Average Strategy | Golden Crossover

When to ENTER & EXIT the Stock Markets | 50 Day Moving Average Strategy | Golden Crossover | 200 DMA

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The moving average strategy holds immense significance in both an investor and trader's toolkit due to its ability to provide a clear and simplified view of stock price trends. It means gaining insights into potential value zones and deciding optimal entry or exit points. The 50-day moving average (50 DMA) and 200-day moving average (200 DMA) are important tools. For instance, when a stock's price crosses above the 50 DMA, it signals a potential uptrend, indicating a point of entry - and vice-versa. The 200 DMA, being a long-term indicator, offers insights into the stock's overall trend. When the 50 DMA crosses above the 200 DMA, it's a bullish sign, encouraging entry, and when it crosses below, it's a bearish signal, advising caution or exit. This intersection is also called the golden crossover which is a powerful technical analysis strategy. Overall, the moving averages strategy is not just for traders but can empower investors to make more informed choices in the ever-fluctuating market
👉 Video Chapters:
00:00 What is Moving Average?
02:43 Identifying Potential Value Zones
05:59 Moving Average Strategy
09:22 Golden Crossover Strategy
10:47 Shankar's Viewpoint
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@bhaveshpatel498 7 ай бұрын

Any topic you choose to explain , turns to gold. 😊

@shankarnath 7 ай бұрын

Thank you very much for the vote of confidence 🙌

@LetsPlaywithDDae 4 ай бұрын

A++ video. I really want to invest in NVDA but doing the math, it is 42% above the 50 day moving average. If I put my money in right now and it has a healthy pullback to the line... I will lose a lot of money and would have to bag hold until NVDA goes up 42% again just to break even. They might not even reach this high again.

@maulik2500 10 ай бұрын

This man makes best videos on investing

@naveenkumarkaranam2799 10 ай бұрын

As usual very clear and this made the whole concept sit right in my head . Thanks a ton for this short but super useful video. Will add it to my tool kit as well

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

You're very welcome!

@vamsikrishna24 10 ай бұрын

Appreciate you venturing into technical analysis and making it simple

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@dsaha7700 10 ай бұрын

Well articulated and in depth to the point explained strategy for small retail investor like us. Many thanks Shankar ji.

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

So nice of you. Thank you very much, glad you found it useful

@dextor08 10 ай бұрын

Thank Sir.. Awesome as usual.

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

@ritika091 9 ай бұрын

Beautifully simplified a very technical topic. Thanks so much!

@shankarnath 9 ай бұрын

You're very welcome!

@bimalupadhyaya9875 10 ай бұрын

Easy explanation..excellent

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot 😊

@gopikannans9246 10 ай бұрын

An excellent session again.

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@kirangowdan7478 10 ай бұрын

In simple words u explain complected things it easy to understand for retail investors the best video in KZfaq The most knowledge perso

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Glad to hear that. Thanks a ton for liking my work

@utkarsh_yash 10 ай бұрын

Great content...Thank you

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Most welcome! 🙌

@Gourab.92 10 ай бұрын

Thank u for wonderful tutorial video.. pls Sir make more such videos.. it will be helpful for learners like me 🙏😀🥰

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it

@ishangoel8798 10 ай бұрын

Very simple, to the point and yet so informative videos that embraces the fact that simple boring investing is the best investing.

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thank you very much, Ishan ji. Yes, I'm reminded of an old Zen master quote: "I have just three things to teach -- Simplicity, Patience and Compassion. These three are your greatest treasures"

@vijayp6459 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for the knowledge shared

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

My pleasure. Glad you liked it

@basavarajathani4537 10 ай бұрын

Super technique sir. Thank you

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Most welcome!

@shoaib2910 10 ай бұрын

I must say you did technical analysis much much better than so called "technical experts" I always do investing based on fundamentals analysis but will use this tools for entry and exist for some extra gain.

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thanks. I'm still learning so there might be implementation gaps. Please use this video conceptually to further your own understanding

@rajatdas7003 9 ай бұрын

You explain things very easily. Thank you ❤

@shankarnath 9 ай бұрын

You’re welcome 😊

@TheHarveySpectre 10 ай бұрын

I don't normally write comments. But this one is GEM 💎

@shankarnath 9 ай бұрын

Thanks, glad you liked it. Curious to know - why not write a comment if a video is praise-worthy? An appreciation comment motivates the creator to create good content.

@TheHarveySpectre 9 ай бұрын

@@shankarnath Like to keep my bar high for something truly praiseworthy.

@shankarnath 9 ай бұрын

@@TheHarveySpectre Good to know 🙌

@MrDinhse 10 ай бұрын

Shankar Nath = GEM

@rajani369 10 ай бұрын

GREAT VIDEO SIR, IAM VERY IMPRESSED...THANKING YOU

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thank you very much

@balajib4485 9 ай бұрын

Great session and simple tool for investors to accumulate more during value zone..🎉 As many have already pointed out, 50ma on monthly chart will be other extreme ( very little value zone). Daily or weekly chatt will be ideal I guess... We will wait ...

@shankarnath 9 ай бұрын

Thank you very much! I've requested Kunal to help us out with his views; he'll respond once he's back from his annual leave

@Kunal.Gupta. 9 ай бұрын

There is no set formula, but it is advisable to use higher day moving average on a higher time frame as it will consider larger set of candles for average

@shivask5543 9 ай бұрын

👌!! Great Work!! Thanks for the Knowledge👍

@shankarnath 9 ай бұрын

My pleasure

@naimafathima5016 10 ай бұрын

great learning for beginners. Thank you.

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@abhijeetgyal 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing ❤

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

You are so welcome

@DrVishalJogi 10 ай бұрын

Excellent explanation. Please make more video about technical indicators. I am a long term investor, but it helps to plan entry and levels for averaging.

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion. Glad you liked it

@kpjratnababu8199 10 ай бұрын

Great strategy indeed

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Glad you found it useful

@dheerajkukal8475 10 ай бұрын

If given an option, i want to give 1k likes myself. Thank you shankar sir. I wish to know more about you, in what setup you grew, what education, when you started thinking of finance and more. If you were to write a book, i will be first buyer 😊 You are my guru dronacharya. I wish i could meet you some day. THANK YOU SIR

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for your continous patronage, Dheeraj ji. There's an interview I did with Neeraj on Groww's Market ki Baat that'll answer a few of your questions. Watch at leisure: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gax9ptZ2v8uYf2g.html

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

The interview is in Hindi

@GoyalRG 5 ай бұрын

the undisputedly best channel for investment learning and stock markets.. totally no nonsense and unbiased approach to explain concepts.. main ek hi din mein bande ka JABRA FAN ban gaya hoon..

@shankarnath 5 ай бұрын

Thank you

@benm2238 10 ай бұрын

Another excellent video Shankar, as always!! You’re just awesome!! Why don’t you do series of videos on Futures & Options with advantages and drawbacks followed by how one can hedge their stock portfolio using options? Perhaps it’s also worth discussing of Stock lending processes especially for people who’ve been investing for several years and accumulating great businesses for their future. Cheers. Thanks again!

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thanks! 1. I don't understand F&O so I'll keep away from it for now 2. There's already a video on SLBM on the channel

@iwasbatman_ 3 ай бұрын

I use 40 as it also doubles up as 200 dma on the weekly chart

@AnandBhatB 8 ай бұрын

Shankar's view point is a game changer. Exit conditions are clean and clear.

@shankarnath 8 ай бұрын

Glad you found it useful 🙌

@dhaddudin777 9 ай бұрын

Amazingly explained and well executed video 👍

@shankarnath 9 ай бұрын

Thanks a ton! Glad you liked it

@thedarkknightwillrise23 10 ай бұрын

Amazing Video Sir 👏🏻

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thanks a ton 🙌

@stevena2230 8 ай бұрын

Excellent explanation of how the 50 Moving Average works.

@shankarnath 8 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks

@user-ms7sk6xp4y 10 ай бұрын

Sheer excellence on your part ❤. Simple yet powerful as always.

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thank you so much. I'm glad you found it useful.

@natureloverRP204 10 ай бұрын

Dear SN, as usual an excellent analysis with nice supportive data. You explain it so well. Thanks a lot ❤

@shankarnath 9 ай бұрын

My pleasure! So nice of you 🙌

@NSG2810 9 ай бұрын

Very informative...thanks so much Shankar sir... 👏🏻

@shankarnath 9 ай бұрын

Always welcome. Glad you liked it 🙌

@shilpagupta2557 10 ай бұрын

Was hoping for this explanation after watching the video on Dolly Khanna. Thanks

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

My pleasure! The follow-up made sense

@anuragdhanvijay4139 10 ай бұрын

Shankar sir the way you explain and the research you do based on previous years just one word AWESOME please don't stop these videos these are very helpful 😊

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@TheSatzy6699 10 ай бұрын

Great content 💯

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thanks! Appreciate it

@baibhavRishu 10 ай бұрын

I'll surely use it sir, thanks amazing as always 😃

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Yes, please try and share your experience. Glad you liked the video!

@baibhavRishu 10 ай бұрын

@@shankarnath sure sir

@bikashkumarmallik7776 10 ай бұрын

WELL ARTICULATED AND RESEARCHED ,

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@gahoiprashant07 9 ай бұрын

I do understand MA very well. The way You and Kunal analysed 50 DMA is commendable. I think things are always very simple but we make it complicated.

@shankarnath 9 ай бұрын

Glad you found it informative and useful. Pls do share it with others who are keen to understand moving averages but feel a little confused.

@bikashkumarmallik7776 10 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thank you vey much, Bikash ji for your kind appreciation and for this nice gratuity. The topic on moving averages was a bit new for me and that's because many of us didnt want to understand it. We think it is some difficult concept but by breaking it down to understandable parts, my retention & therefore the usefulness of it came to light. This can certainly be one of the tools in our investing toolkit

@shameenkumar3534 9 ай бұрын

A very useful video I believe, best part is the percentage difference between 50 and 200 DMA

@shankarnath 9 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@vijaykb1942 10 ай бұрын

Good analysis Kunal and Shankar!!

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

@Kunal.Gupta. 9 ай бұрын

Thank you 😊

@mageshwaran6411 10 ай бұрын

Dear Shankar Nath, Such a fantastic stock picking (One of the criteria) tips found in this session. Here I found few stocks which applied the rule 20 SMA crossing 200 SMA from below in the screener list. Aavas, Vinati Org, Gujarat Floro, Deepak Fertiliser. I understand need to check fundamental and other aspect. Thanks a lot sir..for quick stock pick

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Glad you found it useful!

@nishujain9876 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for such a clear and data backed video. It does give an insight on how to patiently do stock investing if at all interested.

@shankarnath 3 ай бұрын

You are most welcome. Glad it was helpful!

@Anbu-Ini 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the great content, Shankar sir

@shankarnath 9 ай бұрын

My pleasure 🙌

@niansh 10 ай бұрын

Superb explanation! ❤

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot 😊

@1princeverma 9 ай бұрын

Appreciate the knowledge shared..I have also just started reading "The Intelligent Investor" which was kept near you in the video and it makes me happy that I am on right path 😊

@shankarnath 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the appreciation

@satheshkumar5870 10 ай бұрын

Good & Useful information Video 📸

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thank you very much 🙌

@arjungupta4816 10 ай бұрын

Great explanation..

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it

@deepakgurjar4372 10 ай бұрын

Excellent as always 👍🏻

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thank you so much 😀

@jaspreetmodi 10 ай бұрын

that's something really real, makes a lot of sense.

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Glad you found it useful

@zindawali7728 9 ай бұрын

thank u sir for ur wisdom shareing,.

@shankarnath 9 ай бұрын

You're most welcome 🙌

@singhyogendra4953 9 ай бұрын

Really excellent 👌

@shankarnath 9 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot 😊

@kum560 9 ай бұрын

Excellent articulation of long waited explanations

@shankarnath 9 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it

@ardhanush5225 9 ай бұрын

Great video

@shankarnath 9 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@DEVENDRA.CHOUBEY 9 ай бұрын

Good lessons from your videos

@shankarnath 9 ай бұрын

Glad you like them!

@nabeelyahiya 10 ай бұрын

Good video❤

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thanks 🙌

@shaikalisha5015 9 ай бұрын

Good analysis

@shankarnath 9 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@vasudeoshenoy8694 10 ай бұрын

Well explained

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thanks

@praveenkumar-ey6zr Ай бұрын

Thank you Sir

@shankarnath Ай бұрын

Most welcome

@lakshamma4756 8 ай бұрын

Thank you

@shankarnath 8 ай бұрын

You're most welcome

@SivaSiva-iu7qt 8 ай бұрын

Very useful

@shankarnath 8 ай бұрын

Thanks

@hrishikeshathalye191 10 ай бұрын

Great video as always 👏 Just curious about what will happen if we apply a slightly different strategy: Add/average down when the price starts going below the 50 DMA and start selling in increments when it crosses the 50 DMA level. Won't this allow a better way of averaging the price and increase returns?

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thanks. Curiosity is always good .. if you try it out yourself, please do publish the results here for the benefit of all. Perhaps you can try it for any one stock and the index over different time periods.

@deepakelango9859 5 ай бұрын

Beautiful explanation

@shankarnath 5 ай бұрын

Glad you like it!

@nandat8883 9 ай бұрын

Nice

@sandeepdabas9501 10 ай бұрын

Great insight to use moving average. Even one can use this concept in futures (with risk management) to generate exponential returns, like I'm doing for the last 2 years. Thanks sir you provided something new to your subscribers.

@shankarnath 9 ай бұрын

Most welcome

@neerajsaroha1888 9 ай бұрын

sandeep bhai how are you using it, can you pls give an example

@senthilnk74 10 ай бұрын

Thanks. Should we look at 50 DMA in weekly, monthly or daily closing basis.

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

I looked at it on monthly basis for long-duration charts (25 years). For more recent durations, I even went daily. I have to admit, I'm very new to this .. perhaps Kunal can answer this better. He's taking a break, will rejoin work after 3 days .. please allow until then.

@rajusingh-bp1yz 10 ай бұрын

same doubt.plz advice

@Kunal.Gupta. 9 ай бұрын

Depends for how long you are planning to hold the trade. If you are planning to hold a stock for say 1-3 months, you can plot it on a weekly time frame If you are planning yo hold it for a few days to a few weeks, then you can plot it on daily timeframe. So, time frame depends upon trading style.

@hetpatel1250 10 ай бұрын

Loved it. Would love to hear your thoughts on which DMA is more suited for which style of investing. Eg. Is 50 DMA a more suitable indicator (for buy or sell) for a 3-5 month swing trader, as compared to a 200 DMA being more suitable for a buy and hold (long term) kind of strategy?

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thanks! The 200 DMA is definitely a more long-term indicator as compared to 50 DMA. This video is not a play on style of investing though; all the research I've done points out to having more tools in one's kit (swiss army knife from the Mental Models video) and understanding the basis technical analysis bit is certainly a part of it

@hetpatel1250 10 ай бұрын

@shankarnath Noted. Again, thank you for the informative videos :)

@EcoMoney. 10 ай бұрын

Shankar ji, why does 50 DMA or 200 DMA change when one looks at 1 yr vs 5 yr vs All time view? in fact the golden cross dates also change depending on how much past view one is seeing. which one is correct to take as reference?

@sreejaysreedharan4085 10 ай бұрын

very nice...

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thanks

@agantuk1off 10 ай бұрын

Great video. Please also create videos on RSI, Price Volume action and other important Technical Analysis indicators etc..

@shankarnath 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion

@ShikharBir97 10 ай бұрын

Awesome Content Shankar Sir........... Please come up with a video on "LAZY PORTFOLIO" in Indian Context................ It will be very helpful to deploy a lumpsum amount across different asset classes and consistently beat inflation all time.......... Thanking You in Advance..................

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion

@eversunnyguy 4 ай бұрын

Wonderfully explained with nice graphics. So it is better to use 'Day' chart interval for 50 DMA ? That is what I noticed from your graphs.

@shankarnath 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion

@aruns9079 10 ай бұрын

So should we buy stocks when stock comes below 50 DMA ?

@Kunal.Gupta. 9 ай бұрын

Ofcourse, this should be used in conjunction with some other metrics also but yes there is a possibility that if a price closes above its 50 day moving average specially after a large fall, then price can give you a good entry point

@amar19861003 2 ай бұрын

Excellent sir, can you pls make a same video on sector specific.

@shankarnath 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion

@GOWTHAM2204 10 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for this great explanation sir. I am new to the world of investing and since a week started following your videos. Do you have any videos of yours from where I can start learning the basics? And also, can I only rely on this moving average method to start investing in stocks (completely from beginner perspective), or do I need to check any other factors before finalizing a stock to invest in? Thanks in advance sir. Much love to you

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Hello Gowtham, welcome to my channel. 1. My videos are not a series; these go one topic to another so there is no start point. Maybe when I have a course, the structure will be more defined 2. Moving averages is just one of dozens of factors one must use before closing in on an investment. In a recent video on Mental Models, I explained this using the "swiss army knife" anology. May I suggest you watch all my videos over the coming few weeks and revisit this question. I'm certain this part will be clearer & you won't need me to answer it. Wishing you the best,

@GOWTHAM2204 10 ай бұрын

@@shankarnath Thanks a lot sir. Will go through the other videos as well.

@srsharma1000 9 ай бұрын

Learn something new today. I was doing 20 MA and 50 MA and sometime 200 MA for big confirmation. Today 50 MA and 200 MA is different approach i think It works mainly for longer Trade 1 or 2 year with muxh safer way. Hope i am right Shankar ji. One question: for individual stock which one to apply Daily, weekly or monthly candle chart for MA??

@shankarnath 9 ай бұрын

Glad you found it informative and useful. The golden crossover is a very common strategy used esp. by long-term investors. For individual stocks, depending on the strategy you can use daily, weekly or monthly or some variation of that. There is no general rule, may I request to read up more about it. I am not really the best person to comment on this as I too am just learning.

@kjamuar 9 ай бұрын

Hi Shankar! Thanks for the video!Can we next look at which other indicators work best with the DMA?

@shankarnath 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion

@AdityaSharma24091994 9 ай бұрын

Which tool should I use for do such analysis?

@summerbreeze5115 10 ай бұрын

Please make a video on fundamental analysis for beginners. :")

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion

@shashankshashi2415 8 ай бұрын

Very useful video, if the stock prices goes below the 50 EMA, Then is it sure that the stock price will fall or else is there any chances of bouncing back from below the 50 EMA

@shankarnath 8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@drthiruna 9 ай бұрын

If we are looking for the 50 DMA then we become a trader. Is it correct for the long-term investors?

@srsharma1000 9 ай бұрын

What should be the Candle chart..1 day, weekly or monthly ??

@AmitRajGandhi 5 ай бұрын

Where do you get the dma data ?

@SarkisKlinik 5 ай бұрын

Hi, great video. How to measure or know or calculate if stock climbs more than 5% above the 50-day?Thanks

@shankarnath 5 ай бұрын

Thanks. Most stock broking platforms and screening applications allow access to this information.

@akhileshgupta5428 Ай бұрын

so if using 50 EMA, what should be interval ? 1 month or 1 day ? because then the entry point changes accordingly.

@Grateful_100 10 ай бұрын

🎉🎉

@ashwinisudan6462 5 ай бұрын

Dear Sir, Should I be using 50 day etc SMA or EMA? I am a newbie please excuse the delayed question and maybe how dumb it may sound.Thanks.You are an awesome, knowledgeable teacher.Regards.

@shankarnath 5 ай бұрын

Hi, I can't be sure as technical analysis is not my strong suit. It's better if you do some research on the Internet and search for answers

@gautamsinha5998 10 ай бұрын

In a bill market typically the stock.prices trade way above 50.DMA... would you also explore the turtle strategy of 20 and 50/55 DmA and let us know if that works better?

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

I'll leave this for Kunal to answer. I'm a beginner here .. still learning. I think Kunal is occupied somewhere else for the weekend, please allow him some time to get back to you on this

@Kunal.Gupta. 9 ай бұрын

Any strategy works in the market as long as you have backtested it yourself and have implemented in different market scenarios to know the outcome

@AnujGupta-qk2rz 4 ай бұрын

Excellent ! Is a website / platform which provides listing of stocks where the price is above 50 DMA / Golden crossover stage ? Please advise

@shankarnath 4 ай бұрын

Pls try screener.in

@rjbanavar 10 ай бұрын

Mr Shankar. Could you plz do a video on RBI Direct Retail. The pros n cons

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion

@atulmittal8195 10 ай бұрын

Hello Shankar sir, you have been discussing so many strategies for mid term to long term investing. Can you pls let us know your own way of investing and a few dos and don'ts. I remember you saying in one of your videos that when any of your stock goes 30% or 40% down, then you simply accept your mistake and cut your position in that stock.

@shankarnath 9 ай бұрын

Thank you. I have already shared my own investing style/mistakes etc. in some of my videos on this channel. Please do have a look at those.

@vigneshharan4763 Ай бұрын

At 11:09 you showed a chart indicating the gap between 200 DMA and Nifty 50. Have couple of questions 1. Can we compare 200DMA and price of any stock instead of Nifty 50 ? 2. Is there any indicator that you used to find the difference in the percentage or is it a manual calculation ?

@shankarnath Ай бұрын

I'm don't understand technical indicators much, this itself was a beginners video. However to answer your queries: 1. Yes, you can use it for stocks & many people do that 2. I did it manually

@babloosony 10 ай бұрын

Thank You Shankar ji .. are you referring Exponential Moving Average ? or Simple Moving Average ?

@shankarnath 10 ай бұрын

Most welcome. I didn't differentiate between the two in the video so that beginners (like myself) don't get confused. I've used EMA in the charts though.

@babloosony 9 ай бұрын

@@shankarnath so what is the conclusion ? for (momentum) investing, do we need to consider EMA or SMA ?