Rosè signed with the black label only for management, it is rumored that she will sign a contract with a western label, hope this helps❤

imo yg is one of the worst kpop agencies because they keep recycling concepts and capitalize on hate all the time. yes, theyre very popular and have talent, but the pros dont really outweigh the cons to me

From the title alone, I knew this was about BP lol

if we are talking about "kpop is a business", bp is a prime example of how multiple top marketing campaigns, paired with background media pr, business dealings, brand sponsorships, working simultaneously successfully would look like. it became so successful, too successful, that the company who made it loss control over their product.

so true! they work in duos, its a unique dynamic but it doesnt work with purely duos. itzy is a good example of where this duo dynamic goes right, lia and chaeryoung with yeji and ryujin, yuna is a glue that unites them smoothly.

i think that in kpop groups not all members need to be extremely close but they still need to be able to vibe w/ eachother. also i agree that there should be rosie and jisoo unit because their vocals match really well imagine them doing a elegant or fairy-ish concept omgg (also massive rosie stan too lol)

When you said something about them not being harmonious, I thought of Fifth Harmony. Now, they’re not as messy as Fifth Harmony and they actually like each other, but they definitely have some similarities in terms of cohesiveness. They also had a slight solo fan problem but that was mostly with Camila and of course they had their own favoritism accusations. However, favoritism scandals happen with almost every pop group.

I understand what you're trying to say about a group full of strong and very different personalities, but I think it depends on how you handle it at the end of the day. I'd like to use the group SHINee as an example, SHINee is a group with 5 members, all of them with VERY different personalities, each one of them is also a soloist with VERY different styles, concepts and music, and they have never been shy about the difficulties they had with each other in the beginning. They told us many times that it took them 4 YEARS to start really getting along and become as close as they are now, Key and Minho started fighting each other from LITERALLY the first time they met (and never really stopped, only now they fight like an old married couple and are best friends). Taemin fought with ALL the members and their personalities clashed. But they worked on it and showed the fans that even with those problems SHINee comes first and when they got on stage they put all of that to the side and worked seamlessly as a group, and that honesty and loyalty to the group and the fandom made the fans appreciate them more as a unit, that despite the difficulties the group MATTERED made the fans love them as a whole. that's one of the reasons why most fans are OT5 (I'm not saying Shawols don't have solo stans, of course we do, every fandom has them, but they are a tiny minority), seeing how hard the guys worked to make their relationship work and how loyal they are to each other, and seeing them bond and become a family through hard work and perseverance made the fans love them as well. and seeing how immensely supportive they are of each other makes it very difficult not to love them all (It's a common saying in the fandom that no one is a bigger fan of SHINee than SHINee themselves). in a group like that it's very easy to pick a favorite and ignore or even dislike the other members, but the guys made it almost impossible for the fans to do that. Taemin once said that when with SHINee the most important job is to fit in with the rest of the members and bland with them, then, when they do their solo work they can work on developing their own unique colors so that they can bring those colors back and enrich the overall color of the group. BlackPink all seem like very nice girls, but even when in the group they all look like they only want to show their own personal color and not bland those colors together to create that unique combined color that IS Blackpink, and this is probably what their company lead them to do, I don't know, but it does the group a disservice and is what ultimately leads to so many solo stans.

There certainly seems like there's at least one other group of 4 soloists that standout vocally and visually from each other but also has tremendous chemistry together. Perhaps this group is probably an example of a soloist group done well. Especially considering the artist's group and individual discography is actually healthy and stable moving into their careers long term.

four strong female members that could stand on their own as soloist but forms a whole new level of a beast when together. had their run as a fairly known group, now has careers as solo artists but is still whole as a group and fans trust that concerts as a group is only a matter of when. with each members covering each other's solo songs, not to prove that one is better than the other but to show camaraderie and pay tribute to each other's unique artistry. they do have pairings, but doesnt mean that they could only pair up with that specific person. though they do have those pairings, you could mix and much all 4 members, might it be duos or trios, and youd have harmonious twist on those unique pairings not caring about hate comments saying that they are not close anymore, doesnt even need to prove themselves. fans know and secured about it hence fans themselves dont care either. think i heard that somewhere around, in fact they recently just celebrated 10 years together as a group.

solo stans practically ruined blackpink but yg is the one that gave them ruin to run edit: by ruined i mean the fandoms and people's perception of the fandom

Honestly, I really like how the BP members are all so different and have strong personalities ... with bigger groups I often times find myself not really getting invested in the members, usually only knowing one member by name ... but with Blackpink they all have something that makes them stand out to me ... like non of them are background characters for lack of a better word ...

I feel jisoo not really fitting blackpinks concept contributed to the disliking of jisoo's solo, because imo her solo fits her so well! Jisoo fits the Elegant concept, like Jisoo fits IVE's concept more than she fits blackpinks concept. I hope if she ever releases more solo music (which i doubt she will since she seems to be more focused on modeling and acting) i hope shell stick to the more elegant concepts

This is fascinating to me because I always wondered why I never connected with Blackpink, but "4 solo artists in one group" has cleared it up for me. They really don't feel like a cohesive group. Plus I only like a few of their songs, so that and their lack of overall unity has left me uninterested. Other groups I like feel like an actual unified group.

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BlackPink never acted like a group to me. They’re great friends. But the synergy isn’t there for me.

So the solo issue is bcs they (yg) tried to immitate 2ne1 (they legit said bp was the pretty version ) they wanted all-arounders with stage precense ; and they got Ll arounders but they lack as a group (not in talent just in vibes ) if u look at 2ne1 tthey did do different looks individuals and stage presence (but they never got solos even if they should have ) they tried to “fix it “ with pb by giving solor but missed with the group (again not the talent just the vibe) so I think if they had taken them (BP) as individual group and not tried to immitate there previous success but “pretty “ If they had actually done something to just make them them it would have worked so much better. yG always messes up with girl groups tbh

i think blackpink and ive solo stans genuinely need to get into a lab and studied because oh my god they’re insane! especially bp and early day wony, gaeul and liz stans 😭 i like the girls but the lack of content also makes me question how people genuinely go feral over them and in specific their music⁉️ they seem no more likeable then any other group but for some reason get 20x the attention of others worldwide.

8:40 I see a lot of Liz solo stans in these streets too, as an Ive ulter

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Same thing for aespa. Three lead sopranos and a lead alto. Blackpink blew the whole girl group industry wide open. They have separate contracts now, and they aren't obligated to YG outside of BLACKPINK(r).

Istg Natasha’s thumbnails also make me laugh the video could be about the most serious/saddest thing ever and then Natasha is just sitting there serving LOOKS

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With these comments you would think that they'll fall in their comeback...I think being unique is what makes them popular & you can't replace any member

imo blackpink made it too big too early. they never had to struggle for commercial success. add on top of that enormous breaks between comebacks, and you get a formula where the girls practically aren't even practicing together anymore. maybe if the circumstances were different and yg was less stubborn about its management style, they could have been more cohesive. 2016 blackpink was pretty cohesive - in fact, you could say the same up to 2020. they all had strong individuality but they still made sense as a group. i believe the huge hiatus after lovesick girls where each member was focusing on solo projects was the tipping point for them.

Yeah Lisa has the most fans and rosé I think has the least my not sure

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Fun fact about BP's original line up: One of the 6 former pre - debut members was Miyeon from (G)-IDLE and their group name was called Pink Punk, originally.

im not gonna say they're talentless but there are idols with better vocal, rapping and dancing skills who imo deserve the hype more, especially that yg isn't even trying to hide the fact that they're recycling concepts and lyrics

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Allow me to present a different viewpoint explaining why Blackpink having THESE 4 members is the PERFECT combination. You make a lot of good points that are typically valid for most Kpop groups, but completely invalid IMO for Blackpink. Four very different personalities, with very different vocals and different looks would not work for most Kpop groups. However, as their producer has said, they tried all sorts of combinations (between the 9 members originally planned), but they kept seeing that it was this group of 4 that just performed the best. And their numbers since debut relative to all other female groups have pretty much supported his assessment (like their last world tour breaking the record for revenues by a girl group - yes more than the Spice Girls and Destinys Child). In my case, I am a total Lisa bias on-stage (IMO the most savage and charismatic performer on stage and in music videos), but a complete Jisoo bias off-stage (IMO the most savage, quirkiest, nerdiest, funniest person in real life). But I love Jennie and Rose, and I love all the various couplings (LiSoo is my favorite, all comedy, all action, all the time). And IMO Teddy Park is the MVP of Blackpink, with his multi-genre meshing sounds and instrumentation, and song writing and design to mesh perfectly with the strengths of each of the members. Point being, Blackpink lures you with their music, first and foremost, but then hooks you with their charismatic performers and then you become emotionally involved with their off-stage dramas (YG ignoring them, YG abusing them, Lisa getting hate for being non-Korean, Jisoo being called the Blackhole of Blackpink, Jennie being the most hated female in Kpop, BP overcoming YG's mismanagement and all the hate to create another billion view banger, etc.). Who needs Kdramas when you have Lisa being courted by Fredrick Arnold, CEO of a famous fashion brand and one of the heirs to the richest family in France. Lisa, the outsider, Southeast Asian looked down upon as inferior by Koreans, Japanese and Chinese, who becomes the most popular Kpop Idol in the world (over 100 million IG followers, no other Idol comes close). When you have Jennie (one of the most popular female Kpop idols in the last 4 or 5 years, after being the most hated female Kpop idol 6 to 7 years ago) dating V (one of the most popular male kpop idols in the last 4 or 5 years). You get a full musical, comedy (Lisoo and OT4 interacting) and drama entertainment package with Blackpink (Lisa dating rumors, Jennie dating rumors, JenLisa dating rumors). You get surprise stories like Jisoo. Which member is typically the least standout in music videos, with the least lines, and least screen time and which member had the lowest expectations for her solo album: Jisoo. Which member's solo album holds the all-time record for sales by a solo female Kpop idol: Jisoo (who also had the most viewed music video in 2023 of all kpop or jpop acts (male or female, group or solo). By all accounts who makes the most money: Jisoo. Her brand deals are the most lucrative (Dior, Cartier), who also happens to be one of the most in-demand award winning Lead Dramatic actresses in S. Korea. She is 2 times running crowned the Most Beautiful Woman in the World (British entertainment magazine Nubia based on world-wide surveys). Jisoo would be the center in just about every other Kpop group, garnering 80% of the attention. Yet she gets the least visibility in just about every music video and was even completely left out of YG comeback marketing material for Kill This Love, and Jisoo literally doesn't give a F*ck about it because she is the nurturing mom of the group. The dramatic and implausible Lisa and Jisoo and Jennie story lines merit their own individual Kdrama, but they all exist in real life in one very real Kpop group. So, BP is this magical and PERFECT combination of awesome beats, talent, on-stage charisma, story-lines, off-stage drama, and adorable personalities that no other female Kpop group has matched or can possibly match IMO. And this PERFECTION is evidenced by the Blackpink KZfaq subscriber numbers (No. 1 of all musical acts), their IG follower numbers (they are the top 4 followed kpop Idols, male or female); their music video view numbers (No. 1), and their world tour revenue numbers (No.1 for female groups). And this PERFECT combination of these 5 members (yep, I am counting Teddy) is why IMO they are the greatest female group of all time.

Honestly, their fandom really turns me off esp. Lisa and jennie's fans

"keep watching me shut it down" and they indeed shut the group down 😔

finally i found you again after 2 months and i agreed with each thing you said in this video but sadly there fandom is so immature to accept it like there was one video about unpopular kpop opinion and someone said that blackpink solo stans are most toxic and i agreed with that person but in comments section blinks were hating that video creator and saying that person a blackpink hater and so toxic and immature to think that bp solo stans are toxic ALL THE BEST FOR TOXIC COMMENTS YOU MAY GET FROM THEIR TOXIC STANS

Very interesting video. I'm going to speculate that BP will be back, but it's going to take awhile for them to figure out what Blackpink "is" now. I could see where they might get frustrated enough to disband, but I think they know they'd be walking away from the challenge of creating new material, and their very careers were built on facing challenges, and disbanding would be admitting they can't face that challenge and it would haunt them the rest of their careers. Plus, whatever else, they're family. As BP, they're greater than the sum of their parts and it's clear they miss each other. I truly think they want to work together but don't know what to do together. Teddy was the one who gave the group direction and they need someone like him, someone who can look objectively at them and say "Let's try this." I don't think the girls want to go out with a whimper, so they will get together at least one more time, show that Blackpink is still relevant and retake the throne just to prove they can still do it. After that, I don't know. In "Light Up the Sky," they talked at the end about marriage and kids, and they're hitting the age where they need to start making room for marriage and a family. It's certainly expected that Fred will contribute to carrying on the Arnault line and I don't think he'd be in a relationship with Lisa if she didn't understand that. Rose is the most openly romantic of the group and think she's laying the ground work for her solo career and once that's set, she'll start looking for a partner if she hasn't done so already but quietly. Jennie's harder to read, but it's clear she likes being partners with people and I think she's waiting for the man that will appear and she'll go "He's It!" Jisoo has her foot in acting, music, and business which spreads her pretty thin, and coming from a business family, I think she's likely to pair up with an "outsider," a businessman (like IU apparently has) who can help keep Blissoo running smoothly while she acts. I also think, to really take a flyer, they all wind up getting married and having kids roughly about the same time so they can get their families up and running in sync so that they can come back together once the kids have grown enough that they don't need constant attention. I've often said in comments that Blackpink is a fascinating case because there's never been a group like them. They've achieved success beyond their wildest dreams but it's also propelled them into completely unknown territory both businesswise and psychologically. I honestly think they don't know what to do now, and it's going to take time to sort things out. I think they'll be back, at least for an "encore" but have no idea how or when it will happen.

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Whistle is one of my top 3 as well. Both the regular and the acoustic version.

BP as 9 girl crew sounds absurd. They ‘worked’ because of the four individuals. A category of one. Contrast. Look at G&R for comparison - biggest rock crew in last 50 years. Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy - wildly different music influences, all stand as solo projects. The contrast is what made BP stand out.

Rest in peace, dear girl. I do pray the blinks think before they act, though.

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BP represents a salad bowl whereas the mass majority of groups operate like a melting pot. I think that’s the reason why most people don’t understand nor can’t handle their group dynamic. It’s just rare and different for the industry. Another thing people misconstrue is the BP concept. It’s an amalgamation of multiple concepts but the primary two are girl crush and elegance. Jisoo is more rooted in the latter while Lisa is more rooted in the former. Jennie and Rose are in between so it’s well balanced imo. Those are the things I wish more people understood but that’s just my pov.

completely valid take

I think that their fashion style was more based on their clothing contracts, that may be the reason for the different outfits. I find it funny that the other group that would fit the group/solo members would be Mamamoo but doesn't seem to have the solo stan issue among the members that BlackPink has.

when jihyo's solo did not get success same as nayeon's once were not really hating on nayeon for that and were acting mature that nayeon is simply most popular members but in case of blackpink when rose did not get same views and followers as jennie and lisa her solo fandom is throwing sh!t on yg by saying she did not get good solo songs yg rejected songs she selected for herself her solo stans even hated other girls by saying that rose is most artistic in blackpink and bring down other 3 but in reality her solo song is most meaningful song ever made for blackpink even yg allowed her participate in song writing and other stuff its just there solo stans are so toxic to came up with stories to bring their faves up and others down

You are so right about the constant repetitive sound that is used in their songs, though I don't hate that but true it gets boring after some time. All 4 of them individually are very different as you are saying. As a kpop group obviously artists have some restrictions but YG is severe. They had a comeback, few music banks and then BOOM a WORLD TOUR, they were not ready for it. They just had a comeback, YG should have had let them PROMOTE MORE and PRACTICE MORE. I doubt the close to 2yrs they were inactive they had much practice sessions. An full album with a song already heard before. These 4 girls have the voice the talent to sing more and more marvelous songs. Yg just wasted the potential Idc abt what reasons they are gonna give when groups like TWICE,ive etc exist. They have so many comebacks, so many music shows and so much more. Am a huge stan of theirs myself but I feel they themselves don't really want the group to actually exist anymore.

so like im early

Enjoy the cereal with blackpink logo in it for the anniversary blinks❤that's what you get for being annoying

Like you said as a blink i feel like blackpink might be preparing\prepared for their disbandment or are aware that the group blackpink won't be around for long so it's like they wanna make a name for themselves outside of blackpink and wanna be known for their solo careers not js being a member of blackpink bc we all know after groups disband or are removed from the group they typically flop nd not evb will agree with this nd i understand why but it js feels that way (nd not to mention that they only have 32+(?) songs tg js gives they don't wanna be known as a group)

The groups does not make sense? How did they become the most successfull ? What did they do right that other groups are missing?

My thing is, I don’t mind solo stans. There’s nothing wrong if someone likes one or two members, but don’t stan the group. However, akgaes are demons in disguise. I understand if you only like one and don’t Stan BP, however, it’s a problem when you think one member is above the others and drag them down.

There is also a solo stan problem in aespa, I think because of 4 member groups is causing the problem. But to be a solo stan in aespa is really stupid, these girls adore each other and still live together in a dorm.

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why did you take old red carpet pic as exemple ? there’s the pic of them at the VMA of 2022, and the outfits are matching .

I actually like blackpink a lot......the members have different personality and their own concept. If all of them are in girl crush concept.......it will be boring. Maybe yg is actually lucky with BP For ex Jennie- girl crush like 2ne1 Lisa - cool tomboy vibes like itzy Jisoo- elegant funny and vibrant just like twice or ive Rose- aesthetic fairy like illit or new jeans. While solo stans are a major problem

despite the toxicity surrounding this marketing strategy.... well , it's kinda work doesn't it? all of the girls gain massive fanbased because of this and that's for me outweigh all the cons.

Almost everything you said is true. But with that being said, I think with every criticism you said is exactly the reason Blackpink was or is successful, especially in the western market. Blackpink was never designed for the Korean market. It was designed to break K-pop into the western market. Which it did. Unfortunately for K-pop, they had no other groups to take advantage of Blackpinks success in U.S. market. The other K-pop groups are the same boring song and dance concept. It fits old Korean K-pop fans, but it doesn't impress U.S. fans. Lastly K-pop is built off everyone in the group pretty much matching and being the same, creating harmony in the group. Blackpink didn't have that harmony. They maintained their individuality, because they all had charisma and stand out talent. As for Blackpink making further music together. I'm not that will happen. Even though they signed some kind of contract with YG for group activities. I think that contract was just to save YG'S stock Value and to save face in the K-pop industry. Not to mention YG is desperate to have control of their Idols. The girls of Blackpink are beyond their control. Jisoo obviously doesn't want to be a Idol, she wants to be a actor. Rose, I haven't figured out what she wants yet. Jennie wants to be everything in the music and entertainment industry. And Lisa is looking to move on to the Western market and style of music, and become the first K-pop Idol to become a Rockstar in America. I'm pretty much convince she has given up on K-pop totally. For all her success, I don't think K-pop was very nice to her.

Imagine if that lack of balance between them on stage was just because of the yg style songs and if/when they release songs as a group and they can actually write them and make the songs as they want to, that lack diminishes (at least i hope so lmao)

I will make more Blackpink songs as a tribute, but Lisa seems to be the queen 🤟👌

Personally, I think 9 members is waaay too many. G-idle has 5 which teeters on the edge of too many. 4 seems good to me and I take their individuality as a plus. Why? Several reasons In a western market its easier to remember the names of 4 individuals, especially when they make themselves stand out. In addition three of the four speak english very well, so during western interviews, english speaking fans can really relate and grow closer to them. lastly, giving them each a story thats easy to follow is better accomplished with a smaller group. Look at TWICE. I like Twice, dont get me wrong but I only know like 3 of their names. Jihyo, Momo, Jeongeon and Bunny teeth (I cant remember her name, I only know her as Bunny teeth and was sad when she had them altered). How would you possibly craft a story for twice? I know Momo was last picked and almost didnt make the group. I know Jihyo lost a lot of weight, is the leader and looks super sexy with a tan. Thats about it though, meaning the other members just end up fading in the background to the average fan. I think 4 is better. As soloists they strengthen their fanbase as a group as well but more than 4 is very hard. Looking back at G-idle. Great as a group. Soyeon can easily be a solo act, as can Yuqi. Miyeon and Minnie have had solo stages before, with Miyeons voice and Minnies skill as a pianist....but the 5th member Shuhua does dance routines to Britany Spears songs (that are not all that impressive sadly). All just my opinion but I think Blackpinks strength is in their individuality. Like the Ninja Turtles. A group, yes but individuals we can gravitate to as well......and whether by fate or coincidence they are also a group of 4.

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Ok this take is basically how I see black pink in my brain

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Istg yg always ruins their girl groups like …

YG always has the hate on them. The BP hate is shown. You just can't stand how popular they are and how their fans love them. This little girl always gives a lot of what she thinks but not real facts that stand on their own. Also, she kept saying 6 extra members when it was going to be 9 members. Whats up with addition I'm I adding wrong. The girl here also keeps saying I think, and I think. What is this about rumors, again no facts.🖤🖤🩷🩷