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@@redacted8472 that's another big sister story. Far different from motherhood.

yeah, some of these comments straight up depress me. gamers will confidently say the dumbest shit imaginable about women and then wonder why female gamers try as hard as possible to not interact with them.

I love Horizon! I featured the games in a previous video actually

Don't forget Detroit: Become Human. Kara's entire story is about being a mother, it's a much larger plot point there than it is in Horizon.

Detroit: Become Human tells a really good story about motherhood with one of the three main characters, Kara.

Imo Russophobia and Islamophobia are much more real issues than anything you listed.

You aren't hated. You're just incorrect about things, and being debunked. You don't need thick skin as a woman. You have life on recruit difficulty. Men see an enhanced form of humanity in you. We treat you better than a man in the same situation all the time. The same people you accuse of being misogynist want rapists to get a death penalty while your left wing friends want them to be given a second chance. So called bigotry is more common on KZfaq because it allows more free speech, and so called bigotry wins in a far fight of arguments when our side doesn't need to fight with both hands tied behind it's back.

As well you almost exclusively talked about Western devs and games. CD Project Red may be the exception, however that depends on who you ask.

I'm not involved in the gaming community, but don't AAA studios have no resources to make more experimental games? Wouldnt indie studios be more strapped for cash and investors, which stifles their creativity as their prioritize "safe" or "profitable" games compared to more experimental games?

@@BronzeBellaBria It's the other way around. Indie game developers are more free to experiment because they aren't being hounded on by investors to produce a game that is "guaranteed" to make money, i.e. a game that is "safe" and "profitable". Also most indie game developers make their games as a hobby, not as their primary source of income

that would indeed be an interesting character arc and development path , ofc it could also be argued that Lara was/is the counter-idea of a woman who does not want to be a pregnant wife/mother and is always out seeking adventure/etc , ie she is strong/independent and doesnt need/want to be tied down to a man/father ; i think the reason we dont have as many 'mom' games is because it goes against the proto-typical female-empowerment narrative

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It happened to my girlfriend and he didn't get much prison time. He's free now and knows where she lives. It's been a long time without him doing anything, but she was living in fear the first few weeks of him being out. Tragic what it can do to a woman long term 😢

No shade but where did this come from? I just clicked on the vid so I'm all ears

Only killed a couple hundred innocent people and others looking for a cure. He's not quite a "villain", but he's very far from perfect.

Thank you. Great example

Damm I have to agree, it's just not so obvious at first but the motherhood theme is a constant topic throughout the whole game.

​@@Utubeuser000 another big game about motherhood is Detroit Become Human. Look at the character of Kara.

@@the1stmetalhead Oh yeah! I love that game so much. Kara's actress performance is top notch

If only the protagonist were...actually female and not the manliest middle-finger wielding, zombie fighting, motorcycle-riding, grease smeared Norman Reedus...nothing like a Norman's love

@@BronzeBellaBria Kojima once mentioned in an interview that there is a Japanese sci-fi book in which males can give birth by using an artificial womb. I would not be surprised if Death Stranding was partly inspired by that book.

Theses game are either this mom was dead, abusive, on drugs and is used more symbolically then in a similar fashion as a mother journeying with her child or on a journey to be a mother. Motherhood is an identity that erases the woman herself most of the time. There isn't a multifaceted depiction like with Kratos here.

this should be the top comment

Men are treated that way in those courts because women are identified as caretaker and not individual person. Men are separate people from their children. Women are not seen or treated that way. So, it's assumed that the mother should get the kids because they are not seperate.

In what world do mothers not provide and protect? I reject the premise of your argument, its flawed imo.

This comment is actually an AMAZING example of what Adam's talking about. Of course you think the 'father' role is more fit as a protagonist. You don't see women as fully actualized human beings. Men's stories are just the "naturally" more interesting story to you because you've unfairly assigned women these weak, and lets be honest (worthless) qualities and attributes that are prescribed from a gender binary. You have literally said that womens stories aren't worth telling because of invented reasons x, y, and z. You prescribed traits that you don't inherently value to women and then labeled them as uninteresting for it. You don't need to be a man to protect someone smaller and weaker than you. You don't need to be a man to be a compelling and complex character, experience struggle, have battles of epic proportions, or to have stories worth telling. The fact that you can't even conceive what it would look like to have a mother story speaks to how limited your imagination is because of misogynistic structures like this in gaming. Women are feral, especially when it comes to their children. Women literally BREAK their bodies to bear children-- do you understand that? They break their bodies, oftentimes permanently. It is literally the most hard-core thing a human being can do. It is one of the worst pains a human can endure, so much so that our brains must have resorted to self-amnesia so that we are willing to do it again. And btw, women have a higher pain tolerance than men, and far exceed men in competitions of endurance and perserverence. Sounds like a badass video game character to me.

@@BronzeBellaBria wow...just wow

​​@@ionutpetrisor9073hey're right. If we're talking about games as fantastical and mythical as GoW, we can have women that are strong protectors (because they already exist irl). Freya in GoW was almost a good example of this but fell short. She's powerful but acts crazy for half the series which is just reinforcing other annoying writing cliches for women characters.

@@seancutt793 But Freya isn't crazy at all, her wrath against Kratos is completely justified. Meanwhile she's a lot more reluctant to attack Atreus because he's only guilty by association, which shows that even in her grief and rage she's still got a fairly level head on her shoulders

I don’t know, how _did_ Forspoken?

I am a woman, I love video games and also love sex and violence. Maybe actual mothers and people like me would enjoy a game that revolves around a woman and a maternal relationship. While I don’t particularly find myself to be a nurturing person, I think it would be an interesting storyline to explore and learn more about. Crazy how there are different gamer demographics.

That's a sister and brother game and I'm searching for my parent game.

@@melonsauce1474 a parental relationship can happen between siblings bro thats what the game is at is emotional core.

@@Confusedddd Agreed. Following the opening act, Amicia tries taking more of a mother role to Hugo, than sister. At least from what I've play, though I haven't finished the game.

How is talking about the injustices women face considered "political" exactly?

​@@Wisdawms Injustices against women occurs which needs to be solved but mixing that up with video games like that doesn't make sense. There's a reason why video games don't feature motherhood. It's because of the cultural shift. A lot of modern women not all but a bunch of them just don't want to have kids anymore and want to be bossy and independent that's why studios are giving them such characters like Lara Croft, Chloe from Uncharted, etc.

@@the1stmetalhead That is not true at all, that's just how you wanna look at it 'cause it serves your narrative point of view. The percentage of women who don't want to have children, you'll find, is actually surprisingly low. It's just the internet and modern feminism seems to blow these things out of proportion and make it seem like it's the new frontier, when in fact, it's only a speck of dust. If there is fatherhood, there surely will be motherhood. "but mixing that up with video games doesn't make sense" What do you mean mixing that up, who mixed what up? People don't choose how they are prejudiced, and if we choose to talk about a valid concern it is not "mixing it up for political reasons" I recommend getting out of your bubble and put yourself in other's shoes every once in a while .

@@the1stmetalhead 'bossy and independent', way to make it sound like a bad thing

Fucking cry about it lmao