Not gonna lie all Irish flags and imagery in most of the shots blew my mind. Never even realized that before. Awesome video
@Dinkledorf985 жыл бұрын
I am from Boston and I thought that it was just an authentic set
@rickyhunt40755 жыл бұрын
Yea me too I've watched Good Will Hunting a number of times and never noticed the color scheme or the Irish Flag in Wills house.
@Obrienjob985 жыл бұрын
Funny as I'm in Boston for the summer
@EarlHare5 жыл бұрын
Just goes to show how much work ACTUALLY goes into each and every shot of a movie.
@613and8025 жыл бұрын
@@Dinkledorf98 Yeah there are some reaches in this video. A shamrock in an Irish bar isn't symbolism, and the same goes for an American flag in a courtroom.
@What_was_wrong_w_jst_our_names5 жыл бұрын
“It’s like a less gay and more racist San Fransisco” - bill burr, paraphrase
@kevrywhere5 жыл бұрын
I think he said "It's like San Francisco but with the N word".
@notsure61875 жыл бұрын
maybe. but Bostons still pretty gay and San Fran is pretty racist.
@jjmblue75 жыл бұрын
@@notsure6187 Nah, Provincetown is hoarding most of the gay, especially during summer.
@harrylane45 жыл бұрын
@@notsure6187 boston (people not the city) is pretty anti gay in my experience tbh
@hrvsmart5 жыл бұрын
And less shit and needles in the streets
@JDurkin28115 жыл бұрын
"Where do Boston stereotypes come from?" Boston *roll credits*
@vaquita48574 жыл бұрын
Aburcy loarcudi abric
@tds420994 жыл бұрын
I clicked on this video for this comment lol
@Tinymoezzy2 жыл бұрын
This is the perfect comment.
@brionosullivan19925 жыл бұрын
Weird I’m Irish (as in actually born and raised in Ireland) and I never noticed the Irish symbolism in good will hunting. To me they were just rich and poor Americans.
@jerrysmooth245 жыл бұрын
i dont think you need to convince people your irish considering you have the most irish name since st patrick o'carbomb
@brendansmith55295 жыл бұрын
Yeah man you’d be surprised how strong the Irish identity is here in Northeast cities like Boston and New York. Honestly I noticed all that Irish stuff but I didn’t even see it as symbolism- frankly, that’s just what Boson looks like most of the time.
@AdmiralAwesome1115 жыл бұрын
@@Udontkno7 Now You See It
@rhabdob38955 жыл бұрын
They are, paddy. They are.
@DeathShouldTakeMeNow5 жыл бұрын
@@brendansmith5529 Its like here in LA with the chicanos who idolize Mexico and fly the flag with pride and do it everywhere, but meanwhile in actual Mexico nobody really cares. Over there its more of what region, state, or class you come from, or if you're an "indio" or have lighter skin in places like Mexico City.
@christopheryoungs46425 жыл бұрын
Haaaa this guy called the T the subway. What a charactah.
@ObitoSigma5 жыл бұрын
I just call it the Red Line even if I'm traveling on the Community Rail or Silver Line or whatever because every single one of my commutes begins or ends at a Red Line stop.
@ne26044 жыл бұрын
Obito Sigma kinda weird but ight
@olivejuice57184 жыл бұрын
Natalia Edwards That’s what it’s called
@dominicsampson82154 жыл бұрын
Seriously that sounded weird to hear
@ne26044 жыл бұрын
Olive juice no its not. not all lines are the red line
@Alec.V.4 жыл бұрын
As a Bostonian, I see it as one of those cities where it’s technically famous, but no one ever really talks about ut.
@Sebastian-yx8oy4 жыл бұрын
facts
@iceberghoney4 жыл бұрын
So true, and it's a shame! One of the coolest cities in the country, in my opinion :)
@boredbrother66763 жыл бұрын
@@iceberghoney no, it’s the f**k best!👍
@iceberghoney3 жыл бұрын
@@boredbrother6676 you're so right haha
@boredbrother66763 жыл бұрын
@@iceberghoney I too am a bostonian,so of course I know which is the best state out of them all! Plus SOMEONE made scp-4006.
@shadysam88795 жыл бұрын
As a man who has lived in boston his entire life, I can say that all the movie stereotypes are confined into like 3 neighborhoods in reality. The people from southie who act like the pricks you see in movies are generally the middle aged drunks. Younger people are generally more chill. But we almost all have a huge amount of love for the city. And I hate the boston accent thing. We dont all sound like that, and most people who have that accent dont have it as strong as movies show.
@z-beeblebrox5 жыл бұрын
I think in general, the population of people with urban regional accents has been slowly decreasing in America, in favor of the nonregional accent. There will eventually come a day when all regional urban accents in movies will be nothing but fictional references to the past, just like the Southie-Cambridge conflict examined in the video
@peterorsmond26245 жыл бұрын
I also grew up in Boston...and it is a rare day indeed when I hear a truly distinct Boston accent
@emmaforde37455 жыл бұрын
My grandparents are from Dorchester and have thick accents while none of my cousins or siblings have anywhere near a Boston accent
@Jobbazz5 жыл бұрын
z beeblebrox It’s the same in every country. I’m from Dublin and more and more people especially the young are getting a similar accent even if born into different classes. You’ll only hear heavy Dublin accents in old boozers in town these days from auld fellas
@itsanit1235 жыл бұрын
ClockworkAlex yeah I lived there for a few years, and there was way less of a divide, lots of local guys in Harvard actually now, and more hanging out in the same places, like bars downtown around Fenway. New York is way more divided now.
@Julika75 жыл бұрын
Wow, I've not noticed the "southy" dilemma in Good Will Hunting. But I'm from Germany, so this wasn't clear to me.
@Flatcetera5 жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen that alex day thingy in so long holy shit I just had a time trip
@FullContactCA5 жыл бұрын
*Southie
@desertrose06015 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that was the entire plot though. A poor kid from the poor side of town who couldn’t afford college but was really smart.
@jacksonhazeltine92915 жыл бұрын
desertrose0601 “Wicked Smaht!”
@Julika75 жыл бұрын
@@desertrose0601 It seems I watched a totally different film. For me it was about Will's inner fights, his abuse, his self-doubt, the missing parental figures, the opening up to the psychologist.
@cynicaldrummer2865 жыл бұрын
I'm always so fascinated with these video and all the little things i miss during the film but once recognised it very obvious
@TheStoffl965 жыл бұрын
Now you see it.
@thomasleonard87895 жыл бұрын
@6:51 "the camera starts south of Boston" ... brother that is from the bunker hill memorial looking south at Boston.
@roxxylala264 жыл бұрын
When he says the camera starts south of Boston, what he's talking about is A SCENE in the movie "THE TOWN" which THE MOVIE takes place in Charlestown. That's why there's a shot hovering over the Bunker Hill monument.
@thomasleonard87894 жыл бұрын
@@roxxylala26 If that is indeed the explanation it is still a very questionable production decision, especially in a video that is attempting to educate. He's showing a completely unrelated visual when previously all narration had specifically pertained to the visuals on screen. You wouldn't presuppose that the audience is familiar enough with all Boston movies to make this leap with you "Oh, now he's just talking about something else and showing 'B-roll'"
@roxxylala264 жыл бұрын
@@thomasleonard8789 I will have say that I do concur with your assessment on it being a little confusing in regards to the narration & the visual matchingl in that specific spot in the video. But if you would've replayed it AGAIN, he does refer to "THE TOWN" at the same time showing the Bunker Hill monument. BUT talking about a SCENE in that movie that starts of south of Boston & ends in Cambridge. You could've easily googled "The Town" & your confusion would've been solved. No biggie, a real Bostonian showed you the way. Good day
@Asocial-Canine5 жыл бұрын
Something ironic about using the Irish flag to represent Irish Catholics is that its design actually represents the overall conflict between them and the British Protestants. The green represents the southern Republicans, the orange the Ulster Unionists, and the white implies a possible union between the two in a United Ireland. The Famine disproportionately affected the rural Catholics of the West, which led to the immigration to areas like Boston, and a similar dynamic to form between them and the Protestants there. So flying the tricolour in the name of an "us" against a "them" really misses the whole point of it. Then again, it's also the flag of the Republic, and not the entire island, so maybe it's apt. Source: I got like a C in Junior Cert History
@sarahlilliancullen5 жыл бұрын
I always think about this when they burn the tricolour up north
@TheKavo975 жыл бұрын
Free state flag is not the real thing mo chara
@Asocial-Canine5 жыл бұрын
@@TheKavo97 are you talking about the tricolour? Because I said it wasn't the flag of the island of Ireland
@Asocial-Canine5 жыл бұрын
@PF G I mean, it's South of the North
@wvu055 жыл бұрын
I found that out at one point hearing someone talk in a restaurant. A few years later, I forgot it was St. Patrick's Day and wore an orange shirt to work. Someone asked me why, and I paused for a second and said, "I'm Protestant." Good thing I wasn't in Fishtown in Philly when that happened.
@owleyes46785 жыл бұрын
As someone from Boston, I always find stereotypes like this fascinating particularly when it comes to accents. Bostonians and people from Cambridge both have distinct accents, but 90% of the people in those areas don't have any accent at all. Most of the people with those stereotypical accents are older (all the people I've met with those types of accents are older- 60+). I also think that it's interesting that other Boston neighborhoods outside Southie don't really get represented. Boston has a massive Italian American section as well called the North End that is prominent in the city that we never see on screen.
@cmdrfelix12865 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I always notice how the Italian population is ignored with Boston. It's always the Italians in New York/Jersey and Irish in Boston. I have also noticed the accent is stronger in the suburbs (my family is from the north shore and it is STRONG).
@JohnKruse4 жыл бұрын
The Italians in Boston are like the Irish in that they moved up and moved out of many of their traditional neighborhoods. We used to go to Italian mass in the North End at Easter and Christmas. No one under age 50 could speak Italian. The North End is yuppies, recent college grads, and very old Italians.
@pbuckets92424 жыл бұрын
Is the Irish curse real like do people really think that?
@sandrap.65304 жыл бұрын
Same with the South. Southern accents are mostly coming from age 60+ residents - mostly rural. Big southern cities & the under age 50 have no southern accent.
@billvill613 жыл бұрын
@@cmdrfelix1286 ...and nearly absent in the Western suburbs. SUPER strong as you go south down 24, in Taunton, Brockton reaching an almost meshing of NY and Boston accents in the Eastern Providence suburbs.
@CaiominTwin5 жыл бұрын
liked this a lot but left unexamined is the fact that Damon and Affleck grew up in Cambridge, which makes their portrayal of Cambridge v. Southie that much more fascinating.
@THEBIGLIE204 жыл бұрын
Will Hunting could never afford to live in today’s Southie! He’d be going West to survive
@Ragon_Reel4 жыл бұрын
Thomas Casey Yarr he’d be in Lowell, Haverhill, or Billerica
@TB-lj1uf4 жыл бұрын
None of those places are cheap either lol
@billvill613 жыл бұрын
It's yuppie town, now. During the Big Dig, we had an office right on Dorchester Ave., surrounded by smaller industry and the projects. That's the Southie I see in Good Will Hunting.
@LongLeggedOne3 жыл бұрын
The deep south also.. like im gonna have to do.
@LongLeggedOne3 жыл бұрын
@@Ragon_Reel
@TannerLB544 жыл бұрын
6:53 that’s not south of Boston. That’s Charlestown. South Boston’s not even in the shot
@rosethesinger4 жыл бұрын
michael Garrity I was thinking the same thing lol
@leopaul49554 жыл бұрын
The shot of the L street tavern was real. I've never been inside so can't vouch for it's authenticity.
@TannerLB544 жыл бұрын
Ken Hudson I don’t know. Some of his landmarks are off to fit his argument I believe
@chrisbullock35044 жыл бұрын
Yeah he doesn’t really make a distinction as Boston/ charlestown and southie
@ronhanisco86974 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say that too. They're looking at the Zakim right at the Garden. From C-town.
@josegarcia-zk4ds5 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video about fire in movies? I always get the feeling that it has a lot to analyze
@rahulrawat97675 жыл бұрын
Bane: Fire rises
@2-d9335 жыл бұрын
@@stopshootfilms4196 Stop self-promoting
@rskl80835 жыл бұрын
The fire lute scene from narnia
@fabooshka5 жыл бұрын
Fire in Shutter Island was essential. [SPOILERS] When fire was in the scene it suggested the main character was disillusioned.
@josegarcia-zk4ds5 жыл бұрын
@@fabooshka Yeah, that movie was the one that actually inspired me to recommend this idea
@kennethchan28034 жыл бұрын
Dunkin Donuts is from Quincy, MA, which is close to Boston.
@the__gatz9624 жыл бұрын
Kenneth Chan Yeah, i live in Quincy actually. These days we are considered “Greater Boston” but really Anything the T touches is BOSTON. Commuter Rail doesnt count though when using that rule
@roxxylala264 жыл бұрын
What? Quincy is not that close to Boston.
@the__gatz9624 жыл бұрын
roxxylala26 its right over the bridge from dorchester which is literally BOSTON lol
@roxxylala264 жыл бұрын
@@the__gatz962 My bad, I guess your right, in regarding Dot as part of being part of "Boston". As a long time resident of Massachusetts I never did since Cambridge isn't. I associate the South End, South Boston, Downtown, Beacon Hill, North End etc as Boston not Dorchester. But I stand corrected.
@WhatsCookingTime4 жыл бұрын
@@the__gatz962 exactly funny you say that . i moved down the south shore for a few years to save some money and reopen a business now i am working on moving back to somerville. i get these realtors calling me back with places on the commutter rail. im like first of all I said somerville. but you can take the train? WHAT I HAVE A GREAT PLACE IN WOBURN OR STONEHAM nooooooooo! i said i would consider other areas on the T that means the subway lol
@derickrisner21265 жыл бұрын
My maternal grandparents both grew up in Sommerville, which is just North of Cambridge. This was in the 1930s and 40s. The were both Catholic (Grandmother Irish, Grandfather Portuguese), both lived in lower middle-class families. When they were married in 1953 they lived in Roxbury, Rockland and a few other places before settling in Needham (about 15 miles South-West of Boston) in 1967 (same year the Red Sox went to the World Series). They lived there ever since, though my grandmother died a few years ago. Irish Catholic families are BIG. My mom has over 40 1st cousins just on her mom's side of the family. I don't think I have a single relative that lives in South Boston (Southie). Most live in the suburbs South of Boston such as Hull, Cohasset, Weymouth, even on Cape Cod or they moved out of state. North of Boston isn't just the elite. Even parts of Cambridge are lower-class. Boston also has a huge influx of students from all over. Most of the people I know that live in Boston are not originally from Boston. The days of Irish being the "lower class" are long gone, though some may still feel that way. I think we put a lot of this "Underdog" mentality into our sports teams, especially the Red Sox. Until 2004 no one alive had seen them win the World Series and they always lost to the Yankees. I didn't think of it at the time but the Red Sox in the early 2000's liked to portray themselves as a scrappy, messy team who never shaved or got a hair cut. The Yankees were the opposite, clean shaven, high-class talent (expensive). I think a lot of it may have been a call back to the old Elite/Lower Class dynamic. Winning World Series and Super Bowls hasn't changed the fact that we are always the underdog from little Old Boston. Great video. Made me think about my roots more.
@questionmark11524 жыл бұрын
If ya didn't know...Somerville is for the richhhhh now. & it's full of us Catholic Portagees!!!
@dontask74454 жыл бұрын
Tons of working class Portuguese in Somerville. I'm one of them.
@anthonyciaramitaro61264 жыл бұрын
are you sure your from boston? Red sox won the world series 5 times before 2004...1903,1912,1915.1916,and 1918
@dontask74454 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyciaramitaro6126 Yeah I was gonna call him out on that too
@derickrisner21264 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyciaramitaro6126 I meant I (or really anyone still alive) had never seen them win the World Series. I should have been more clear about that.
@michaelbecker6215 жыл бұрын
This was one of the smoothest transitions to an ad I've seen in a video
@yoavshati5 жыл бұрын
literally just watched Good Will Hunting for the first time yesterday
@6allrandom95 жыл бұрын
So how did you like them apples?
@notsure61875 жыл бұрын
Stop & Shoot Films spam
@Crippycooke5 жыл бұрын
It’s not your fault
@brianmessemer29735 жыл бұрын
Did you get her number? Also, how did you like 'dem apples? @@stopshootfilms4196
@brianmessemer29735 жыл бұрын
Oh damn you beat me to it 😂 @@6allrandom9
@psyplat71845 жыл бұрын
A true Boston hero: Mark Walberg as Captain America
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@oof-rr5nf5 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, Mark Walberg is intolerable. I have only ever liked him in The Departed. And he is always playing the same character.
@psyplat71845 жыл бұрын
@@oof-rr5nf I'm sorry, Mark Walberg is a God amongst men. The amount of patience you need to have to act in a Transformers movie is immeasurable.
@oof-rr5nf5 жыл бұрын
@@psyplat7184 xD
@ShaunRL5 жыл бұрын
Captain america wouldn't commit a racist hate crime and not apologise for it.
@angusorvid88402 жыл бұрын
A very good video. I have family in Springfield, French Catholics, and many are married to Irish. I've also visited Boston many times and have family there. I've noticed the very stark class distinctions even when visiting as a child. While I've never seen any outright WASP vs Catholic conflict, I did find the Harvard crowd to be pretentious and absolutely full of themselves, and I heard how they talk down to the underclass, like security guards, cops and firemen. While I've seen my share of class pretension growing up on the wealthy west side of Los Angeles, it was never so starkly delineated as it is in Boston where you can literally have two parks across the street from each other and the wealthy and working-class mother self-segregate. They don't mix and their children don't mix. As Boston is becoming more and more expensive it will become an elite island of its own, a monoclass city like San Franscisco and New York.
@TheArchsage745 жыл бұрын
I miss Robin Williams more than some dead relatives
@mynameisnotjoshua6455 жыл бұрын
Jeez
@ketgala5 жыл бұрын
Ever since I saw that picture of him wearing the Issey Miyake utility bomber I feel the same 😢😢😢
@David__U5 жыл бұрын
Lots of good observations in this, but the geography seems confused. Cambridge is not part of Boston, and South Boston is not all of Boston. Lines like "Irish were relegated to South Boston, below the Charles River" at 1:15 are odd; while it's true S.Boston is south of the Charles, they aren't really near one another. Beacon Hill and the Financial District (of Boston) are between them. The most egregious errors start at 6:27. While lots of movies and TV shows do show the Charles River, as the narrator says, the shot here is at the mouth of the Mystic River looking south toward the harbor. And at 6:42 the shot is not "looking from South Boston north across the Charles" because again, you can't look across the Charles from South Boston because they are not next to one another! The shot is from Beacon Hill towards Cambridge. At 6:50 he says "the camera starts South of Boston", but what's on screen is the Bunker Hill Monument, which is in Charlestown - a neighborhood to the north of downtown Boston and Southie. So the camera is pointed SOUTH from Charlestown, not NORTH from South Boston!
@chrislorusso4335 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The Charles River is not the dividing line at all. It runs straight through the heart of affluent parts of Boston. The only thing it separates is what kind of elite a person is: Educational elites to the north and political/financial elites to the south - and this is still a bit of a generalization.
@mynineridesshotgun5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. The commentary over the Bunker Hill shot was bothering me.
@GagReflexSwagReflex5 жыл бұрын
If there's one group that represents the working class Irish in Boston it's Beacon Hill!
@shiivainu94425 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clearing this up!!
@stevemctravel38845 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying all of this. I was enjoying the video but gritting my teeth at the incorrect geography and the general misconception that “working class and Irish Boston” means Southie. There are some good observations in the video but everyone not from Boston seems to have the impression from movies that Southie is everything south of the Charles River and where all the Irish people live. They need to take a look at a map. Being a working class Irish American from north of the river I take this as a personal insult!
@iceberghoney4 жыл бұрын
As someone who's seen a ton of Boston-based movies and has a genuine affection for the city, this video BLEW my mind. From the Irish symbolism in GWH, to the associations around Dunkin', and the representation of Boston women; all of it was incredibly fascinating!
@KenDanieli4 жыл бұрын
Charlestown "The Town" (gritty) and Cambridge (elite) are on the same side of the Charles. Southie, South Boston (gritty) and Downtown Boston and Back Bay (elite) are also on the same side of the Charles (the opposite side from The Town and Cambridge. ) So there goes that one.
@ssgg232 жыл бұрын
Yep, that scene he showed while mentioning "The Town" was Charlestown north of Boston, not Southie. You can immediately tell by the Bunker Hill monument.
@anncurley1235 жыл бұрын
As an Irish person I felt in my bones that it would have something to do with us before even watching it 😂
@ronaldviens7862 Жыл бұрын
Too sensitive for the real Irish.
@GolerGkA5 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have came up with better soundtrack than Dropkick Murphys.
@caffeinatednation88854 жыл бұрын
Indeed! 🤘
@Codricmon5 жыл бұрын
This is fascinating; as a German, I never picked up on any of that, as I don't have any association with Boston. That could be an interesting topic for a video; how the difference in values and associations between different societies possibly influenced different films' success and maybe the way Hollywood creates movies to appeal to a more global audience.
@paulsullivan16504 жыл бұрын
I love how he keeps saying that you're upper class if you're from the Cambridge side of the Charles River. Well, I was born and raised in Cambridge, and grew up in one of the many shitty housing projects there. Believe me, Cambridge is not all elite! Yeah, there's Harvard & M.I.T., and some incredibly rich areas, but there's also the crappy neighborhoods that I grew up in too. Just as there is in any city.
@MikeCee7 Жыл бұрын
I wonder there is any poor areas today in Cambridge tiday, considering it’s not super large area, and gentrification filling in any place that was once previously affordable.
@katie36034 жыл бұрын
It is kinda wild how Boston is basically a mid-sized city but it occupies such a big place in media
@THEBIGLIE20 Жыл бұрын
Greater Boston is pretty big and that’s what they are generally referring to.
@Jesse__H5 жыл бұрын
Enjoyable essay as usual. I'm less sure of the particulars of your thesis in this one than some of your others, but hey, it definitely held my attention!
@oof-rr5nf5 жыл бұрын
Which particulars?
@Jesse__H5 жыл бұрын
@@oof-rr5nf What I mean is that the _argument_ is ultimately unclear, or maybe just underdeveloped. EFaP makes video essays, right? In each one he's trying to convince his viewer of something. Well in this one I'm mostly unconvinced because I'm not positive what he's trying to claim. Again, tho, great video nonetheless .
@DailyClickbait5 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video talking about the importance of titles?
@nativepangea5 жыл бұрын
Too obvious, they are used for breastfeeding.
@DailyClickbait5 жыл бұрын
@@nativepangea It says *TITLES*
@nativepangea5 жыл бұрын
@@DailyClickbait Big and Bold all the much better.
@lukefirst4075 жыл бұрын
As a Bostonian, thanks.
@JayBelew5 жыл бұрын
Love this channel and the channel a closer look. You guys related at all? Y’all both do an awesome job of video essays.
@questionmark11524 жыл бұрын
Even though all the symbolism in "Good Will Hunting" seems purposely placed a lot of it is most likely coincidental because in Irish neighborhoods all those symbols are everywhere. You would have to try hard to not see them. The same goes for the yups at MIT...Any time there is an event by those crowds you're always gonna see American Flags prominently displayed. As for their jackets, those 2 jackets were insanely popular here in Massachusetts, not just with Irish kids. That being said, I still think you did a very good job to find those little "Easter Eggs" throughout the movie, whether they were intentional or not. Haha
@sleeve0 Жыл бұрын
i was thinking the same thing when i was younger i dressed pretty much the same as goodwill hunting. i even remember having a pure green pair of sweatpants i’d wear often lol
@kenaldri4923 Жыл бұрын
The ivy League hatred is real, as is the Charles river divide. I got in a fight once as a visiting band member from Cornell at a Harvard football game. Kids arriving from poorer neighborhoods practically attacked our band as it marched out of the stadium. Not necessarily Irish kids but working class. True story.
@ramstrom63995 жыл бұрын
I’m from Worcester, MA. My dad is a Swede and my ma is Lithuanian. There are strong communities for both these groups, yet everyone I meet out west asks me what Irish bar I grew up in
@Mister-Christer4 жыл бұрын
Cool Greetings from Stockholm, Sweden :)
@jackdasilva23304 жыл бұрын
ahaha buddy you live in the buscheeks not boston
@UIAL5703 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I’m Irish, I didn’t know there were those communities in Boston at all. People will ask mostly because they don’t get to study it in school to learn more about it and they won’t learn it from other people even in talking because it wouldn’t come up. Mostly people ask about the Irish because we’re famous. The stereotypical Boston accent is half from us and half from the English Puritans of East Anglia.
@sydvicous77433 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry there’s a large Portuguese community that everyone forgets about too. The only movie we got was Mystic Pizza and they don’t even pronounce Portuguese right 🤦🏻♀️ “Porch-oo-geese” not Friggin’ “port-u-geeez” Julia Roberts did us a disservice 🤣
@inconnu4961 Жыл бұрын
@@UIAL570 The Irish are infamous!
@ranchu855 жыл бұрын
For once I wanna see a Boston movie with Vietnamese, Haitians and Portuguese.
@potatorebel56734 жыл бұрын
Watching this as someone who was born and raised in Boston, and still lives there, is very amusing lmao
@Eddie-xj1pm4 жыл бұрын
Potato Rebel can’t agree more lol
@LongLeggedOne3 жыл бұрын
It can be esp since me and others from the area dont watch all this media shit with these images that much. A lot of it wasnt even like this tbh. Just close into the downtown more like those select parts people film when doing movies.
@np80415 жыл бұрын
Were reaching symbolism levels that shouldn't even be possible!
@bonksu21415 жыл бұрын
I should really be finishing my summer homework because school starts so soon, but I mean, you uploaded a video so I just HAD to stop..
@aR0ttenBANANA5 жыл бұрын
What type of school gives summer homework. That's wild
@lookingforwhiteprivilege93305 жыл бұрын
aR0ttenBANANA96 tons of schools do. At least in the US
@mariyam98615 жыл бұрын
lmao Same, I gotta finish AP Lang in the next two days, right before school starts.
@Neinzurechts Жыл бұрын
I'm currently working on a scene from Good Will Hunting for an acting class and I came across this video doing research on Boston and it's history. I learned so much (I'm from Germany and didn't know a lot about the Irish people in America) and it inspired me deeply. Thank you so much!
@YouTubeKnight5 жыл бұрын
It's Boastan! How do you like them apples!
@Daniel-Rosa.5 жыл бұрын
Bill the Butcher, isn't it?
@ctdesign15034 жыл бұрын
wanna fight about
@riinak72125 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised there wasn't any mention of Boston's North End, with its own Catholic roots traced back to Italy and how the two sometimes match up and sometimes have motives opposite of each other. Bostonians aren't all Irish Catholics or English Protestants. There's also a sizeable Polish Catholic community there, too.
@emmaforde37455 жыл бұрын
The north end is almost all Italian
@Udontkno75 жыл бұрын
And the Black Protestants, which definitely don't have the same power as English protestants.
@riinak72125 жыл бұрын
@@Udontkno7 True, though I was commenting specifically on the specific Boston stereotype they were trying to highlight. There is a large, vibrant black Protestant community in Boston from many different places...but I'm not as familiar with it since I'm not specifically from Boston but I mean, Boston is a multi-cultural city like many other places.
@adamgordon64354 жыл бұрын
The North End was a Jewish neighborhood before it became Italian. Those immigration waves happened at about the same time, which is why Little Italy & the Lower East Side were next to each other in NYC. Boston also has had sizeable Greek & Portuguese populations (maybe more than Polish).
@ctdesign15034 жыл бұрын
@@adamgordon6435 now they all move to brookline and sharon ...still some in the north end but not like back in the day
@aaronclift5 жыл бұрын
The stereotype of Boston might be of Irish-Americans - but Boston happens to be one of the most culturally-diverse cities in the United States.
@oof-rr5nf5 жыл бұрын
oh cool!
@oof-rr5nf5 жыл бұрын
@Gery A wow dude your world view is hella sad
@johnmarshall35605 жыл бұрын
Polish, Italian, Irish, Jewish, Haitian, Dominican, Puerto Rican, Brazilian, Vietnamese, Portuguese, and many more The Protestant vs. Irish narrative is extremely reductive and ignores most of Boston's history, *especially* the busing crisis and blockbusting, which really defined the city politically and were definitely not "Irish Catholic vs. English Protestant". Also that guy Marky Mark blinded in 1988 definitely wasn't a WASP... It saddens me that movies convinced people my city is just one extremely dumb stereotype
@ethanelephants47405 жыл бұрын
You’re not wrong, come see how many Irish you find in JP
@aaronclift5 жыл бұрын
@@ethanelephants4740 I went to Tufts University for college and didn't have a car back then, so JP was pretty far away from me. But, I did go to Cambridge and downtown Boston a lot and remember there being a very wide mix of different cultures and nationalities in the area.
@6buddurgin9 күн бұрын
Worked in Southie from 1980 to 1997. What an experience! I was living in the North Shore (Salem) and it was like going to a different country every day. Great people, very fun times.
@Mageit Жыл бұрын
That was the greatest Segway into a sponsor ad in the history of KZfaq. Also, great video!
@ranchu854 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a Boston movie that shows Boston as it is now with the Irish as elites, and the new immigrants are the Vietnamese, Haitians, and Portuguese
@KidChardonnay2 жыл бұрын
Im from Australia but i've been a celtics fans since I was a kid, i always loved Boston and identified with the hard nosed blue collar stereotype. If i ever go to the states it'll definitely be my first stop
@peterk79315 жыл бұрын
I just want to mention ow great that segue into the sponsor was. Top notch! (Not sarcasm. Actual praise.)
@tikari39875 жыл бұрын
As a foreigner this really opened my eyes, had never realized watching all of these movies what cultural contemplation they contain :)
@maxgamesst15 жыл бұрын
Great video! One of your best written ones yet
@alessandrocwilliam5 жыл бұрын
Irish immigrants (to the USA) had practically the same difficulties that Italians had. And if it wasn't enough both flags are very similar. Brothers, no doubts.
@vaquita48574 жыл бұрын
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@juliettailor16163 жыл бұрын
Nah, they don't really like each other (Bostonian here). Totally different cultures.
@LongLeggedOne3 жыл бұрын
@@juliettailor1616 Im Italian, and guess what, at a time 2 other italians, one even browner than me, called me a mexican. The last name I had both didnt notice as Italian which was a fucking riot. ITS MEXICAN NACHO! Im like um no its not. So people bicker over things like that still. and sometimes u would be called a hick if u lived in a town someone didnt know. as far as irish and italian fights over culture though, I didnt see a ton of it. I do believe the Irish hated the blacks though as well as the puerto ricans. Some Italians also did.
@LongLeggedOne3 жыл бұрын
@@juliettailor1616 I grew up beside Lowell. I had uncles in Boston but I didnt live in Boston. I am not sicilian, i had a different sounding last name than the other italians, I am taller and I guess ppl didnt know what I was. but mexican of all things was assumed in this situation. And I have not been to Italy wtf.. U seem quite irritated I hope u're not on a period
@juliettailor16163 жыл бұрын
The majority of Italians are racially (yeah sorry to use that word) light skinned, you aren't, I take it. It's an understandable mistake. I have Sicilian relatives (by marriage, I have no Italian blood) from the North End. I got to know them and the culture fairly well.
@jjmblue75 жыл бұрын
When I think Boston I think of having to ride the T in because driving in the city is somehow an even worse option.
@TR-ru7wl5 жыл бұрын
The green line after a sox game taught me patience and pain in equal measure
@ronan44134 жыл бұрын
T R lol
@ph4tcat5 жыл бұрын
I love how he flows into the ad, by the time its over, I have seen the whole thing. LOL
@Onyxkokoro964 жыл бұрын
I will say that their addict population is the most bold I've ever seen.
@ctdesign15034 жыл бұрын
how so ?
@loveforeignaccents5 жыл бұрын
The things you pick up on always blows my mind!! Thanks for sharing :-)
@samuelgault71185 жыл бұрын
As an Irish person, may I just say, they’re all yanks to us
@KindaGrump5 жыл бұрын
I knew before the video started that Shipping Up To Boston would play. And honestly it's the most annoying thing about movies set in Boston. It's become a near requirement to play it at least once.
@oof-rr5nf5 жыл бұрын
I'VE LOST MY LEEEEEEG! * cue bagpipes *
@billypilgrim15 жыл бұрын
Besides the Departed, tell me more movies, set in Boston, that use that song
@Alex617x5 жыл бұрын
Wow. I’m from Boston. This was awesome and so accurate.
@camillevoyage97275 жыл бұрын
I LOST MY LEG CLIMBING UP THE TOP SAIL I LOST MY LEG
@robchuk41365 жыл бұрын
I must have only watching it a few times, but I never noticed the Irish color schemes in Good Will Hunting. Mind. Blown.
@TaylorJohnson13 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to my 3% Irish heritage 👌🏾
@conan_der_barbar5 жыл бұрын
I know the Departed was released years ago but I'm not sure those spoilers Werte necessary.
@LawNerd243 жыл бұрын
Right?
@trason1015 жыл бұрын
I would Love to see a video done about Stereotypes for other races and other states.
@missxxfrankiexxd4 жыл бұрын
I know that I'm like a year late, but Dunkin's is definitely very Boston / Mass. The first shop was opened in Quincy.
@jdpoitoux4 жыл бұрын
Some parts described as South Boston are actually parts of CharlesTown and East Boston (my part) and Charles river is separating Wealthy Cambridge From Boston's Wealthiest neighborhoods. Other than that, I love the video for these Irish references that I have never notice.
@makingcostumes4 жыл бұрын
Manchester by the sea, is north of Boston.
@rosethesinger4 жыл бұрын
Richelle Murray I was thinking the same thing. He also showed a shot of bunker hill which is north of Boston and said it was a shot of south Boston.
@leopaul49554 жыл бұрын
@@rosethesinger Bunker Hill is in Charlestown, a part of Boston, close to North End.
@rosethesinger4 жыл бұрын
Leo Paul what are you trying to say here? I just said it was a shot of bunker hill because it’s well known to be on the Northern side of Boston. People from the area more often know where bunker hill is versus where Charlestown is.
@leopaul49554 жыл бұрын
@@rosethesinger Sorry Rose. I must have misunderstood. I thought you said North of Boston. I didn't realize you said North side of Boston, whichi s absolutely correct. My bad.
@Alex-cw3rz5 жыл бұрын
Now answer why did The departed have three look a likes as major characters and why did they leave out Ben Affleck to get a 4 way going.
@skottyo4 жыл бұрын
All whites look the same to me.
@aidengoulet21044 жыл бұрын
Scorsese would never cast Affleck
@joannawhite144125 күн бұрын
Ha. My dad is always referring to people as lace curtain. There were really tough working class areas of both Boston and Cambridge. Harvard square was filled with punks and beggars through the 90s. It was just part of its charm.
@PandaMom92303 жыл бұрын
My great grandmother left Ireland on a boat when she was 19 and came to America, ending up in Southie. I have very deep Boston roots. It’ll always be my home even if I don’t live in Mass anymore. When I get together with my Southie cousins, there are no R’s to be had kehd.
@Kyleology5 жыл бұрын
They come from Boston, I'd imagine.
@harwantsethi23504 жыл бұрын
Whoever recorded this seems to think that everything in the actual city of Boston is 'Southie'
@HusarX5795 жыл бұрын
I really like this videos. You go straight to the point not wasting anyones time, while providing some NEW interesting insights.
@corey50325 жыл бұрын
“Grass grows, birds fly, and Brotha... I hurt people” -Fast Boston Boi
@WayTooClose5 жыл бұрын
Boston... I spent a month there one night. (Really good video. I have several friends from Boston I'm going to share this with.)
@KoderKat5 жыл бұрын
I've lived in Boston my whole life.. This video was fun to watch lol
@ObitoSigma5 жыл бұрын
It's pretty crazy when you're from Cambridge and you read comments about people in Boston and you think to yourself, "Wow, these Interweb citizens reside less than a few miles away from me at this very moment"
@qwertyTRiG5 жыл бұрын
Guinness: Unionist Porter. Fascinating that it's used as a symbol of Catholic Irishness when for years the company refused to employ Catholics.
@notsure61875 жыл бұрын
Could you produce a video highlighting the importance of spoiler alerts?
@averyshaw21425 жыл бұрын
Not Sure ikr the entire plot the departed is in this
@rachelalice5 жыл бұрын
I’m Irish (born and raised) and I got a work & travel visa last summer to work in Boston (I worked in Southie). I had never even heard of Southie before and my perception of it was that it was more so upper class. Lots of Rich kids would come into the place where I worked. The people I worked with loved Southie and had so much pride for it.
@brendahaggerty94675 жыл бұрын
It's become super-gentrified in the past decade or so.
@katie36034 жыл бұрын
The Charles River ... just separates Boston from Cambridge, not the elites from the poor. The real estate immediately on the Boston side of the Charles is some of the most expensive in the city
@spadeplaladin54 жыл бұрын
I love how you play The Deli in so many of your videos, subscribed.
@uncomfortablecat5 жыл бұрын
I see Bill Burr, I like the video.
@jasonremy16274 жыл бұрын
Not bad, but he continually confuses Southie and Charlestown. They don't even border each other. Charlestown is North of the Charles River. Same side as Cambridge. Southie isn't even near the Charles. It's on the other side of Fort Point Channel. There's like, a LOT of Boston between the Charles and Southie.
@JanePeg5 жыл бұрын
I was hoping you’d mention Spotlight, just curious how you might see it fit with these other Boston movies. Excellent video.
@CSM100MK22 жыл бұрын
Apparently years and several season in the show Ray Donovan, the actors learned they had been saying their own name the wrong way the entire time. claiming to be from Southie, it should be pronounced "Dun-uh-van" instead of "DON-a-van".
@error.4185 жыл бұрын
7:35 *raises the question, it's not circular logic
@XandroR25 жыл бұрын
TF2 Scout: How about me?
@UIAL5703 жыл бұрын
This was a really great video. I loved it. I have never noticed the symbolism you pointed out.
@JTMConceptions4 жыл бұрын
I like how the thumbnail and title imply that Boston stereotypes come from Matt Damon in Good Will Hunting.
@dolphwong5 жыл бұрын
0:30 I put up that yellow and white tent in the background. True story
@thomasharris10904 жыл бұрын
dolphwolf do tell
@dolphwong4 жыл бұрын
Not much of a story to tell. I used to work for a tent company putting up tents for all kinds of events in the Boston area. On any given day you could be working on the Charles setting up for some elite function, putting up tents the size of football fields for Harvard or MIT graduation. On this particular day we showed up at Harvard and we were told that they were filming a Robin Williams movie.
@cptnoremac5 жыл бұрын
7:37 That's not the proper usage of "begs the question." The phrase you're looking for is "raises the question." They're not related in any way.
@ChristopherRoss.5 жыл бұрын
I think its a safe use, as he isn't invoking the logical fallacy in any way, or implying one. Call it an alternate meaning of the phrase.
@cptnoremac5 жыл бұрын
@@ChristopherRoss. It's not an alternate meaning, though; it's just a common misuse.
@cptnoremac5 жыл бұрын
@mark heyne Nope. Under nobody's definition does "begs" mean "begs for an answer to."
@onethatobjects49605 жыл бұрын
*OBJECTION!* BEGS AND RAISES IS THE SAME THING IN CONTEXT
@cptnoremac5 жыл бұрын
@@onethatobjects4960 No it's not. In no context does "begs" mean "raises." Source: www.dictionary.com/browse/beg
@ullllllllllllllable3 жыл бұрын
"the camera starts south of boston" immediately shows a shot of charlestown :D
@flu3b935 жыл бұрын
Leo's death in The Departed is one of the scenes that hurt me the most. Sullivan was a good man, he deserved better. Goddamn, what a movie!
@rosethesinger4 жыл бұрын
Overall I thought the video was good and interesting, but next time double check with the location of some of these shots on a map. People from the area can easily spot that some of these shots in the “south” were actually in the north. Also Manchester-by-the-sea is most definitely north of Boston by a good amount (at least in a Massachusetts perspective). A little disappointed by how much work went into analyzing the movies and there wasn’t as much effort in getting the geographic stuff right.
@lopez4465 жыл бұрын
"when you think of Boston what comes to mind?" Fallout 4
@GrandTheftDiamonds5 жыл бұрын
"Park the car in the yard? How about I hammer you in the heart with a haymaker?" - Diamond City Security
@MistyDusker5 жыл бұрын
I immediately remembered Bill Burr talking about the Boston stereotypes when I saw the title. Happy you put him in the beginning of the video.
@ellisroundy37925 жыл бұрын
Something not mentioned is that all of these characters are immense caricatures