Where Did This Square Come From?

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Fireball 2ool

Fireball 2ool

2 жыл бұрын

I dive into the history of the Mega Square, its iterations, and what has inspired its design.
Get yours here:
fireballtool.com/mega-square/

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@kevinliang9502
@kevinliang9502 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a tour of the foundry where the mega square is made!!!
@johnpittman7928
@johnpittman7928 2 жыл бұрын
^^^
@sparkstm231
@sparkstm231 2 жыл бұрын
Yes please!
@ronburr5937
@ronburr5937 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jason, are these made at the Spokane Steel Foundry in the Valley? About 12 years ago I worked in their machine shop. We used to turn and mill charpies and impact samples from every batch of steel that went into various molds for shear and tensile strength. Kevin, I agree, a tour of the foundry would be awesome!
@Cosm1cCream
@Cosm1cCream 2 жыл бұрын
Rriiiiight
@mackayla0
@mackayla0 2 жыл бұрын
Yes please
@randallrun
@randallrun 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t have the “fancy smancy” dragon skin version, but I still adore mine! Great tools, great videos!
@marcmmclellan
@marcmmclellan 2 жыл бұрын
This is the result of a product developed and made by someone who does the work! Not a pencil pusher! Bravo!!!
@matthewfolbre1635
@matthewfolbre1635 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the mega, monster and magic square when you first released them in the T&S form, then last year or so I bought the aluminum versions of the three. I tig welded all the T&S squares to minimize distortion. All six get used regularly when I doing fabrication work. Great products.
@hyperformancellc
@hyperformancellc 2 жыл бұрын
In 2016 I was making Porsche brush guards and made a right angle tool off the center line of a 1.5" tube. I added holes to let it be connected with threaded rod. or pinned together to be made wider. a year later I bought my first non homebuilt cnc with a vf4. I made a new more accurate set of my angle slide blocks but made the other side have big chamfers. I realized how helpful it was around the shop with welding on fixtures and added circles for clamping. those got turned into D"s and the third version ended up looking like your current square. A friend was visiting and picked one up and said "Hey i didnt know fireball made aluminum ones?!" He pulled up your product on the internet and it was so cool to see how similar they are, my border was thicker since I use them as heat sinks and I had less holes in the middle. Ive continued to make custom ones for all sorts of jobs but when friends comment on mine I always send them to your website to get their own. Just so cool to see how people across the country can have the same ideas. Cheers!
@telldeatrich3593
@telldeatrich3593 Жыл бұрын
Really great to see the humble beginnings of the first one and the essential nature of those first customers to help you move on and later offer them a better product
@patrickgreen9747
@patrickgreen9747 2 жыл бұрын
I have a few of these squares. When I was selling my home I had to weld up some 1” steel tubing doors that needed about 1/4” tolerance all the way around. I had already moved all my tables and had to ultimately weld these doors in the floor of my garage. Took my time, clamped everything tight to the square with the tabs as my indicated edge….first shot perfectly square (rectangle) doors. They were worth every dime right then and there.
@spevakdesigns
@spevakdesigns 2 жыл бұрын
I finally had a good reason to use the tabs on my minion the other day and it was glorious! Thanks for all the great tool ideas and KZfaq content Jason! I used my mega square two days ago while installing a stainless railing and it was a pleasure to use as always.
@Beanpapac15
@Beanpapac15 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately as a home gamer I can't justify the price of getting as many of these as I'd like even though they're super useful. Since I've started welding I can't think of a single project where I haven't used my 8" aluminum mega square at some stage.
@markwatters6875
@markwatters6875 2 жыл бұрын
Well done mate. Shame that postage from USA is so high, excludes a heap of us here in Australia buying the set.
@jesperwall839
@jesperwall839 2 жыл бұрын
And Europe
@kz.irudimen
@kz.irudimen 2 жыл бұрын
@@jesperwall839 They have a european site and I think shipping is pretty reasonable. Says shipping to france is 6€ for the 200mm mega square.
@Tenacious21
@Tenacious21 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't been a customer for your fabrication products yet, but I just want to let you know that these squares (and your collab with Alec Steele) are what brought me to your channel as a loyal subscriber. Love the content. I hope you keep it going for a great deal longer!
@robyoung1890
@robyoung1890 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely LOVE my squares. Thanks Jason!
@donovanmorris163
@donovanmorris163 2 жыл бұрын
They definitely keep getting better. Can't wait to see what is in store for the next generation
@skumancer
@skumancer Жыл бұрын
I love working with your tools. My first bed rack is functional but definitely not square. The one I build this weekend is twice the size, and 99% square, all built on the floor of my garage. These square helped me jiff things so they are level and square, so happy about this!
@ultra4suzukisamurai679
@ultra4suzukisamurai679 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a “v block” version for round tube, race car chassis work. I love your tools!
@jwiereng
@jwiereng 2 жыл бұрын
seems to me that the tabs would work very well for round tube
@ultra4suzukisamurai679
@ultra4suzukisamurai679 2 жыл бұрын
@@jwiereng the tabs work but the tube can roll away when clamped if not careful. Also a v block style would let you join tubes of different diameters. These are issues I run into. Again I love your squares, I use them daily.
@spevakdesigns
@spevakdesigns 2 жыл бұрын
You should draw some sketches and send them to Jason, I could totally see a fireball V block lineup tool in the future!
@Mike-lt6sj
@Mike-lt6sj 5 ай бұрын
​@@spevakdesignsI just made qty 12 of a different design in 6061 aluminum that are cnc'd and a vee groove machined around the perimeter. They're so nice for building frames and very strong.
@outsidescrewball
@outsidescrewball 2 жыл бұрын
Add a V or radius groove to the faces for round stock to be used with your mantis pliers
@jordanarizon4089
@jordanarizon4089 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing the maximus clamps back! They need a video, one of the sleepers in your catalog.
@fredfrontino3706
@fredfrontino3706 2 жыл бұрын
I finally broke down and bought the mega, minion, and perfect squares. Wow, I wish I had these years ago. I also got the vise grips and really love them. Keep up the good work.
@girliedog
@girliedog Жыл бұрын
Frist saw these on Abom's channel and ordered a set right away. I love my mega squares; wish the tabs were around when I bought mine.
@razghost2
@razghost2 2 жыл бұрын
Loved watching this, it's easy to see tools such as the mega square and presume that it was perfect from the first batch when in reality it could be further from the truth
@skeletonpenis
@skeletonpenis 2 жыл бұрын
Cool to see all the improvements that have been made over the years.
@CarterBuilds
@CarterBuilds Жыл бұрын
love to see those squares with 3/4 system on them to use with your 3/4 table
@williamthomas2278
@williamthomas2278 2 жыл бұрын
Best way to develop your tools and your business is to listen to the consumer!!! WAY TO GO
@stuartkorte1642
@stuartkorte1642 2 жыл бұрын
Cool history. Thanks for thinking of us Floridians. 👍
@ButBigger42
@ButBigger42 2 жыл бұрын
Use these things a lot. They're amazing.
@flacohueso307
@flacohueso307 2 жыл бұрын
I have been watching your videos for quite a while and find them very interesting. I just watched another video (Steve Watkins at work) and the video was of him going through a building that was filled with all manor of machine tools it looked like the majority were brand new and the owner said they were way under retail and he loved to make deals. Hop this helps you out.
@kentuckytrapper780
@kentuckytrapper780 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍 great products...
@larrymashburn7789
@larrymashburn7789 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up on dragon scale. Couldn't find an explanation on the site.
@T62vair
@T62vair 2 жыл бұрын
Love the content! Keep it up.
@HootMaRoot
@HootMaRoot 2 жыл бұрын
My father built something similar to this back in the 60s/70s. He made a few for his most common angles that he would weld as it save him time having to make a new jig every few months
@nikolaishriver7922
@nikolaishriver7922 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t do a whole lot of fabrication, but my machinist mind immediately wondered if a V channel could come in handy on the middle of the faces? Maybe one down the middle, and others crossing it width-wise to help join round tube together, and maybe even usefully add an additional 45 for square tube if for a reason they need to be joined oriented like a diamond to each other. Or it may just be redundant. Just thinking out loud, I don’t have one of these, so I may not be the best feedback source lol. I Love this channel and it’s good to see your product progressing and getting refined
@dougc78
@dougc78 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! I’m not a welder (I wanna be) and even I can see how brilliant you are. I love to watch your mind at work.
@chrisnewitt512
@chrisnewitt512 2 жыл бұрын
I love these, have got a fair few now, nothing else meets there quality and usability. Hardly ever use a magnetic clamp now.
@kennethcarver9687
@kennethcarver9687 Жыл бұрын
You are a genius 👏, your ideas are fantastic!
@ebalmes
@ebalmes 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see these sold at A-L compressed gases! I’d also love to order a few of them. Love supporting local!!!!!
@dougkahler7152
@dougkahler7152 Жыл бұрын
You need to put that dragon scale on your welding tables
@outsidescrewball
@outsidescrewball 2 жыл бұрын
Add a VEE (or radius) groove to the faces for round stock to work with the mantis pliers
@InchFab
@InchFab 2 жыл бұрын
Make one using the threaded hole on the one arm.
@ODGColornChrome
@ODGColornChrome 2 жыл бұрын
Another awesme tool!
@PkwyDrive13
@PkwyDrive13 Жыл бұрын
I really want one of the weld together yourself ones! Just for fun! Pleaseee
@craigmccuistion4896
@craigmccuistion4896 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a genius product. It’s great for the home gamer who doesn’t have a huge welding table available. Really like my square. Thanks Jason!
@nicklebac6753
@nicklebac6753 2 жыл бұрын
I use my mega square and minion squares almost everyday at a fab shop, from thing gauge steel to thick structural steel plates, makes keeping stuff square easy
@camofelix
@camofelix 2 жыл бұрын
Have you considered a coated/treated chromoly version that is smaller and suitable for both welding and machining as a fixture plate? Sort of thing where you can move parts of the assembly as a single setup between additive and subtractive processes? Base metal stays ferrous to be compatible with magnetic shims, have the holes, flats etc. Be certified to a given tolerance? Especially for parts that have complex internal geometry that are best made as 2 parts then TIG’d/brazed together, would be pretty sweet. (Thinking for parts where 3D metal printing/other additive processes don’t make sense, but you want single setup to avoid error accumulation.)
@bouzoukistudent8180
@bouzoukistudent8180 2 жыл бұрын
I believe a great idea is to make a magnetic coating .you can choose how "strong" it will be . it will help a lot in practical use but also it will protected from corosion . And you can give it a perfect finish for looks also and durability against scratches.
@gpegasusm
@gpegasusm 2 жыл бұрын
Where would one send feedback or suggestions on improvements for your tools? I emailed about adding a center V-groove to the magic square so it could be used to hold round tubing and was told that they weren't looking to modify the design at the time and I'd have to get any modifications done myself.
@ektaron
@ektaron Жыл бұрын
So cool to see the evolution! We love the latest iteration. Maybe if the hole could be a tiny bit bigger to pass clamps with larger pads? Otherwise, perfect. Oh, wait. No. Smaller variants. Not as small as the minions. 😀
@ShainAndrews
@ShainAndrews 2 жыл бұрын
I bet I've sent at least five guys your direction for those squares. Every single guy thought they were a little gimmicky.... until they used them. Then they wished they purchased at least four like I told them to buy in the first place.
@Monuments_to_Good_Intentions
@Monuments_to_Good_Intentions 2 жыл бұрын
Can you show how you would weld large 2x5” steel tubing without a welding table? I had a hell of a time figuring that out.
@tomsims7868
@tomsims7868 Жыл бұрын
is dragon scale anti stick for industrial adhesives so that it could be applied to the fixture table when working with plastics or other hand assemblies that use glue
@melgross
@melgross 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is that it can be hard to order these products. I have two squares, but couldn’t get the coated versions. Then later, I tried to buy other squares, and couldn’t get them at all.
@MrTooTechnical
@MrTooTechnical 2 жыл бұрын
Kick ass square
@komoru
@komoru Жыл бұрын
What are the tolerances of the square. How SQUARE is your square?
@campziggyrzr14
@campziggyrzr14 2 жыл бұрын
As a home builder I'd be more than happy with the first version and could get away with accuracy not being perfect or like said just have it machined if needed.
@chris13ortega
@chris13ortega 2 жыл бұрын
an Aluminum version would be pretty cool
@Bbonno
@Bbonno 2 жыл бұрын
Idea: a place to keep the tabs and thumbscrews when not in use. Like, threaded holes somewhere on the inside of the square
@InchFab
@InchFab 2 жыл бұрын
You can weld them on. Or make a little box for them and weld it to the inside. Or you can just put them in a drawer or toolbox like everyone else. Those are the options. I suppose you could mill in some slots on the side of bosses that kinda press fit, or add some magnets, but who knows how they work anyway.
@Fireball2ool
@Fireball2ool 2 жыл бұрын
Most just leave the tabs in a hole and turn it to the inside to avoid obstruction.
@InchFab
@InchFab 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fireball2ool no can do. Obviously, you guys need to do some R&D. Go ahead and retool the entire thing so there's a place for this guy to store the thumb screws. Don't forget to tell your wife that he'll be there at 5 o'clock and dinner better be on the table.
@opieshomeshop
@opieshomeshop 2 жыл бұрын
I've got 2 of those and 2 of the biggest squares you make. The large set are dragon skin.
@rigdiver225
@rigdiver225 2 жыл бұрын
My suggestion for improvement: make a version or attachment with a V groove in the surfaces so you can use it on pipe and round bar.
@Fireball2ool
@Fireball2ool 2 жыл бұрын
The tabs make a 90 vee.
@kadmow
@kadmow 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fireball2ool - but not on centre as tube clamps provide.
@aaronmcclain1279
@aaronmcclain1279 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fireball2ool . You have a great product . I too know the feeling of makeing a product . Mine is a fixture mill pistol slides and frames it was the second of it's kind that was commercial use and I made a hundred of them sold them you know but never could seem to get over that hurdle I mean everybody loved the product but just never could keep myself going on it but you know like me and you and a bunch of other people we were the end users so we don't want to try to make it make it very adaptive and parts easily and interchangeable and all that I'm not asking for a review or nothing I just I understand man going through the generations of it but if you do have some tips keeping on track on keeping your product alive I'd sure like to hear your . Thank you
@cobhmanwelder4760
@cobhmanwelder4760 2 жыл бұрын
is there an Australian distributor yet mate ? lots of guys ask for them on the forums but just too expensive to ship, maybe bulk might get the shipping price down a bit.
@djdanzy
@djdanzy 2 жыл бұрын
I just bit the bullet and bought the fab pack. 850 AUD shipped here. Yikes But as they say time is money. Plus i can weld up on the ground in the field in driveways whereever I am.
@karencollins9363
@karencollins9363 2 жыл бұрын
two thumbs up on the square but only one up for the price
@leftturn99
@leftturn99 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps a pentagon or hex assembly as such.
@MAC_6.7
@MAC_6.7 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t one painted blue? I haven’t bought any yet but going to shortly.. was that an aluminum one?
@christophercastor6666
@christophercastor6666 2 жыл бұрын
Big fan
@treyhart6861
@treyhart6861 2 жыл бұрын
You have the square and a 45-45-90 triangle, is there any market for a 60-60-60, or a 30-60-90 triangle? Not saying I "need" them, but curious what the market suggests?
@leehughes5798
@leehughes5798 Жыл бұрын
how about a tee slot runnig around the out side ? for vee blocks and other tooling? our a tee slot atachment that bolts on ? too the squares avalble in your line
@Peter_Riis_DK
@Peter_Riis_DK 2 жыл бұрын
Hey? What happened to the spatter demonstration? And they are quite expensive.
@silverbackag9790
@silverbackag9790 2 жыл бұрын
How soon until the 12 inch dragon scale are back in stock?
@yellowdog2181
@yellowdog2181 Жыл бұрын
I have a custom millwork and cabinet shop, I would buy those in aluminum
@just1nFPV
@just1nFPV 2 жыл бұрын
I would buy a smaller one in a heartbeat...the ”mini square” 😂
@nerdatronic8202
@nerdatronic8202 2 жыл бұрын
Never realized you are in spokane, can I buy these locally?
@timlong1462
@timlong1462 2 жыл бұрын
Is this square in the video 8 or 12 inch? Looks like a good useful size for what I do.
@davidspeyers5740
@davidspeyers5740 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the 12 inch version.
@ramonmichaud3004
@ramonmichaud3004 2 жыл бұрын
Great tool, what about an aluminium version to also work as a heatsink ?
@jiminsequim3218
@jiminsequim3218 2 жыл бұрын
Check Fireball's website - there are aluminum versions. :^)
@benjaminshaw80
@benjaminshaw80 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe a trade in program so a guy can trade up to the newest version?
@johnkruton9708
@johnkruton9708 Жыл бұрын
Version 6.0 comes with a certified welder to do your job for you…..😂
@andrewwilson9057
@andrewwilson9057 2 жыл бұрын
do you sell these in Australia?
@mariomarchigiano528
@mariomarchigiano528 Жыл бұрын
Hi I was wondering if you can tell me the name of the company that made the casting for you thanks
@LarryKidkil
@LarryKidkil 2 жыл бұрын
How square are these? Can I use it as a precision measuring tool?
@InchFab
@InchFab 2 жыл бұрын
There's a tolerance for everything. The website has those numbers somewhere.
@alexguigui1877
@alexguigui1877 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking today, why not drilling and taping some holes on all the faces of the square to place the tabs ? To be able to use it the same way we use a speed square. We could push it against the edge of a sheet metal do have square, 45 and to have a face flush to the edge Or even to screw some powerful neodymium magnets on one side. It can be useful too 🤷🏻‍♂️ I don’t know if you see what i mean My English is not that good 😂
@Fireball2ool
@Fireball2ool Жыл бұрын
I have pins that do that
@BordersBrothersCZ
@BordersBrothersCZ 2 жыл бұрын
Can i have plans to first version? Please to cut on laser
@OnRappel
@OnRappel 2 жыл бұрын
Next 20% off coupon code, I'm buying some!! Maybe even that cool chipping hammer/scraper!
@telltuckerlazyfu2442
@telltuckerlazyfu2442 2 жыл бұрын
I want these so bad just have to convince myself to buy them. Make fabrication so much nicer
@ryan11199
@ryan11199 2 жыл бұрын
Is this a official channel? I'm confused. There's fireball tool the fireball 2ool
@kevinpulver4027
@kevinpulver4027 2 жыл бұрын
I love mine so much I bought one for a friend of mine. He loves it and said he prays for me every time he uses it. Best investment I ever made!
@jennasalau7699
@jennasalau7699 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been trying for months to buy his squares but the site won’t ship to Australia. So frustrating! Take my money! Anyone know a good competitor square I can get here?
@djdanzy
@djdanzy 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought the fab pack to australia. The site worked for me! 850aud.
@jennasalau7699
@jennasalau7699 2 жыл бұрын
@@djdanzy Im trying to buy the Magic Square, just tried again and it still says it wont ship to aus :(
@djdanzy
@djdanzy 2 жыл бұрын
@@jennasalau7699 thats really weird. I bought mine yesterday. They also said you could email them in some previous comments down below if your from australia
@preciousplasticph
@preciousplasticph 2 жыл бұрын
Check out steel anodizing finish. Yes it is real. Tutorial on KZfaq. It was discovered by a NM university professor, but when he went to patent it, he.found someone else patented it over a hundred years ago. Similar to alum anodizing except a base not acid is used. You can also make colors on steel Similar to titanium.
@Brainmalfuction
@Brainmalfuction 2 жыл бұрын
is there a reason you don't make an aluminum version ?
@Fireball2ool
@Fireball2ool 2 жыл бұрын
I do
@Brainmalfuction
@Brainmalfuction 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fireball2ool Oh i thought you would have show cased it here. ill have to look in to ordering one !
@luapkirner5331
@luapkirner5331 2 жыл бұрын
Are they still cast in Spokane?
@Fireball2ool
@Fireball2ool 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@ShainAndrews
@ShainAndrews 2 жыл бұрын
Literally states it at least three times in the video...
@eformance
@eformance 2 жыл бұрын
Dragon Scale: DLC?
@btrswt35
@btrswt35 2 жыл бұрын
Titanium nitride coating! Then it would look like a gold casting.
@fowletm1992
@fowletm1992 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know if anyone is importing them t Australia Love the idea but it'll cosy me couple of hundred in shipping
@hyperlink047
@hyperlink047 2 жыл бұрын
How about adding magnets
@phillippearce9680
@phillippearce9680 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@repalmore
@repalmore 2 жыл бұрын
3 dimensional corner square coming?
@manxman8008
@manxman8008 2 жыл бұрын
show whats it for?
@fordnut460
@fordnut460 2 жыл бұрын
Make it out of copper or bronze. Then no need for coating
@droy333
@droy333 2 жыл бұрын
Only costs twice as much as the tool to ship to Australia.
@ShainAndrews
@ShainAndrews 2 жыл бұрын
What's your point?
@droy333
@droy333 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShainAndrews It's not worth buying. That's my point. Thought that was obvious. There are 67 countries where English is the official language yet only 1 or maybe 2 countries can buy these products for a reasonable amount of money.
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 2 жыл бұрын
@@droy333 except shipping is not a cost we can control coming from the states. Only viable option would be for someone to step in as a distributor in that country and import a bulk lot of squares in a shipping container and then resell from that lot in that country.
@droy333
@droy333 2 жыл бұрын
@@bcbloc02 not going to happen. There is one person that has imported some but they add the cost of the shipping on anyway. I don't get how I can get something shipped from China for $5 but the same thing from USA is $75.
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 2 жыл бұрын
@@droy333 it is because the postal union subsidizes China shipping because they are considered an “under developed country” This is why Trump wanted to get the Us out of the postal union because it is cutting our own business throats when shipping from my house to the next city over costs more than shipping from China because the price of the one subsidizes the other.
@alexanderlove6595
@alexanderlove6595 Жыл бұрын
yall should hire me i would run circles around yall. your product is a good idea executed terribly i have a degree in math, welding, and engineering i would kick yalls ass
@Fireball2ool
@Fireball2ool Жыл бұрын
Where’s your KZfaq channel?
@alexanderlove6595
@alexanderlove6595 Жыл бұрын
@@Fireball2ool i dont have one i work for a living. and don't make shit tools
@manxman8008
@manxman8008 2 жыл бұрын
more 45 than square
@raymondlee2680
@raymondlee2680 2 жыл бұрын
Probably from ABOM Adam Booth
@manxman8008
@manxman8008 2 жыл бұрын
make tabs magnetic
@dwightmitchell1464
@dwightmitchell1464 2 жыл бұрын
I would pay extra for a "MAGA" square... 🙂
@USA-vo5by
@USA-vo5by 7 ай бұрын
Me too !! More than ever !
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