Where does Pep Guardiola rank alongside Sir Alex Ferguson & Arsene Wenger? 🤔 Simon Jordan's Verdict!

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Sir Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger have been inducted into the Premier League Hall of Fame. Will anyone ever come close to toppling their dynasties? talkSPORT's Jim White, Simon Jordan and Danny Murphy have their say!
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@xsupply Жыл бұрын

SJ is overlooking at Wenger's overall impact on the prem ie training methods and attitudes

@franklindowntown5363 Жыл бұрын

Who givez a fck if they dont win titles

@yarentaa1474 Жыл бұрын

People keep forgetting sir Alex had the biggest squad and biggest budget amongst his colleagues. They bought ferdinand for £30m in 2002. That's almost some club entire starting 11

@shahzadirani 11 ай бұрын

Ball knowledge = TikTok videos

@shahzadirani 11 ай бұрын

Sir Alex built the youth academy and scouting structure at United. His initial titles were won with 6 youth academy players. The revenue he generated for United was his hard work. Pep inherited a billion dollar Barcelona, needed the referees help to win 2 UCLs, also Pep inherited treble winning Bayern and could Not even take them to the final😂 and Pep’s billion dollar City got knocked out of the UCL by Lyon Spurs and Monaco🤣 Sir Alex on the other hand remains the last manager to beat Real Madrid in a European Cup final. And he did that with minnows Aberdeen🐐

@Emmanuel-re6kj Жыл бұрын

How you guys can have this conversation without mentioning Mourinho is shocking

@paulmichaelrichardson6582 Жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@iq_insane Жыл бұрын

Because Arsene Wenger is a specialist in failure ... -In Jose Mourinho voice

@grantmcroberts4089 Жыл бұрын

@gooner7188 oh aye well chelsea were successful before roman showed up. And Jose won a champions league with porto

@ravhirani2660 Жыл бұрын

@Gooner71 and Pep didn't spend any money? Lol

@abhisheksavant4307 Жыл бұрын

Pep is doing what Ferguson did in the 90s and 2000s. Difference is he is doing it in style.

@nateb8282 Жыл бұрын

In style? Clearly never seen United back in the day then if your saying United lacked style

@arsenalogist4285 Жыл бұрын

Wengers most successful years were keeping Arsenal in the top 4 during the clubs years of financial constraint

@Kingofthekop1 Жыл бұрын

And the fans may as well have spat in his face

@_peepyopee Жыл бұрын

Most successful I'd argue would be winning the league title...

@bizarresportynerd6136 Жыл бұрын

Pep has won with money, without the money he doesn’t have 2 world class starters in every position. Wenger had no money and was still getting top 4 and at times competing for the league. When wenger had a solid team he was 1st or 2nd.

@winterbird4447 Жыл бұрын

Top 4 was easier back then…but yes…some of the squads he had at the time were not up to invincible levels.

@arsenalogist4285 Жыл бұрын

@@_peepyopee To go 10 years reaching the champions league whilst making a profit is unprecedented in European football. That's not the case for winning titles

@caseyfalconer7347 Жыл бұрын

Love the way Jim White slipped Martin Keown invincible in that because of what Simon Jordan said the other week 😂

@gijoe678 Жыл бұрын

Arsene Wenger spent in 22 years what Pep Guardiola spent in 4. From his first season 96/97 to the last season he won the league 03/04 - Wenger spent £170m and recouped £124m. Different breed.

@bluemoon1716 Жыл бұрын

Pep won more at his age then Wenger did

@scottthomas4927 Жыл бұрын

Inflation

@crow1989 Жыл бұрын

@Ulfatein Deewaane pep inherited most of those players stop being daft. Have some respect you utter child.

@gijoe678 Жыл бұрын

@Ulfatein Deewaane Pep's a great manager. But he's had greater teams. The two champions league winning sides had Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Eto'o, Henry, Villa, Busquets, Mascerano, Puyol etc. Wenger never had a team of stars like Pep.

@stnbch3025 Жыл бұрын

Wenger is the original import manager of the PL.

@kayodebradnock8954 Жыл бұрын

Pep for me is the best of all time. Revolutionised a barcalona team and got rid of all their stars such as deco and Ronaldinho. Took all players for academy and made them unbeatable. Peps trout cabinet and win percentage based on seasons played he already in trophy wise is the 3rd most successful manager of all time. If we look at trophy to season he’s on top. 4 leagues in last 5 that’s total domination and that Liverpool team deserved a few. The consistency of his teams and high performance levels is insane. He always gets rid of stars and makes teams better. He’s a genius. People are just jealous of him I appreciate his greatness as a Liverpool fan who has gone through heart break and the hands of that bald genius. People talk about fergie not having money he was biggest spender during his reign and had pick of all best players. During his time man United had biggest monopoly on league. No one could compete. Rio Ferdinand more less cost 100 million + in todays market when they spent 30 odd million on him. Pep spanked fergie in two champions league finals. That 08/09 team was better than his 99 team and was that man United strongest ever team under him. Surely if he’s the greatest he would have beat pep at least once. Peps style of football suffocates opponents. Even without messi they still would have won. The same tiki taka pep adopted was taking by the same Spanish internationals that we’re without messi who dominated internationally for years. Peps 100 point season beats every single team in any bpl season since it’s inception. No way does fergie win 13 leagues with pep around. Even Klopp Liverpool won more points than any of fergie teams. Don’t tell me about different eras. Pep and fergie crossed eras and we have seen peps tactics were superior. Bpl is now much more competitive you have 6 teams who could win the league. 6 teams with strong financial power. In fact even the other teams now have money every team now had technical stars within their teams. What I rate about fergie was his ability to adapt with youth and refresh teams something klopp can’t do. I’m a Liverpool fan. But pep is best I’ve ever seen. I feel they need to indite first division mangers as bpl small selection - the likes of Bobby robson, Kenny danglsih won many with Liverpool but one with Blackburn, shakely, bob paisley, Brian clough etc

@shahzadirani 11 ай бұрын

Must be a newborn kid. More like the other way around LOL. If Sir Alex was younger, he’d have adapted to the “Pep” challenge and beaten him and Pep would not be winning more than 2 Premier League titles. Want to know why? There’s proof and history behind this. Sir Alex was first beaten to a league title (or two) by Wenger, Mourinho, Ancelotti, Mancini. What did Sir Alex do? He’d learn, adapt his team and tactics, and come back and win 3 league titles in a row and he did this across different decades. So I’m sure if he was 60 instead of 75, he’d have faced Pep more often and smashed him just the way Ancelotti smashed Pep 5-0 on aggregate in 2014 and knocked Pep’s City out last year. Pep only got rid of “two” players at Barcelona Not “all their stars”. He inherited a Barcelona team of Puyol Valdes Eto’o Iniesta Xavi Messi who had just won the UCL 2 years before Pep took over. So these players were already elite winners. Pep then inherited a treble winning Bayern team and could NOT even take them to a final LOL. He then inherited a City team that won the premier league 2 years before he joined. And although he’s done well at City in the league, he still got knocked out of the UCL by Monaco Spurs and Lyon😂 Sir Alex Ferguson re-built an entire club that was in the dust and had not won the league for 25 years and the UCL for 31 years. Sir Alex Ferguson won the European Cup Winners Cup with minnows Aberdeen beating Real Madrid in the 1983 final. Last time I checked, Pep bottled a semi final to Real Madrid in 2 minutes of stoppage time😂 And by your logic, Tuchel greater than Pep because Tuchel beat Pep in a UCL final with Kai Havertz and Timo Werner😂 There’s only one manager that’s the best of all time and he is Sir Alex Ferguson🐐

@cryn3380 Жыл бұрын

Fergie built 3 world class teams at Man United. Not only that but when Wenger came in and ended their dominance, he adapted his style and tactics to get United back on top, then he done the same when Mourinho came in, then he done the same when City were on the rise. Pep has had a very fortunate career where he inherited an amazing Barcelona team with Messi in, then went to Bayern who had the best squad in Europe at the time and now City, who had the best squad and unlimited tramsfer funds, he's never truely "challenged himself". Wenger changed the English game forever before pep even came along (on and off the pitch) Fergie built United back up and rebuilt them with 3 different world class teams. Pep doesn't compare to the 2 of them

@mh5616 Жыл бұрын

Agree with you 100%

@stnbch3025 Жыл бұрын

Haha.... What a load of rubbish. Wenger was the first major import manager in the PL. All of Ferguson his teams were built using the transfer market and the luck United had some great youngsters coming through that offered him a foundation from within. Guardiola influences how football is played. Ferguson won trophies. Wenger got outclassed.

@ih4447 Жыл бұрын

On top of that ferguson never had 22 World class players like pep did. He relied on oshea, Darren fletcher, Park ji, cleverly, Phil neville, wes brown etc when his first team was injured. He was not a cheque book manager like pep.

@Mr.93.20 Жыл бұрын

Being at the top of the game his whole career shouldn’t be used as a negative as the English rivals and English media portray. Pep is a footballing genius.

@Dude_the_Fourth Жыл бұрын

Spot on...Fergie really should have won more champions leagues (I still feel most EPL clubs have failed in the champions league due to officiating that has always favoured the Spanish) but both Fergie & Wenger are in a class of their own. Ancelotti in Italy too!

@justme-hh4vp Жыл бұрын

Whatever you think of Mourinho, i'm surprised he didn't get a mention with 3 titles and the one to break the ManU-Arsenal duopoly

@danoku5582 Жыл бұрын

He did not break, Abrahimovich money did

@vargo3689 Жыл бұрын

@@danoku5582 every club buys and sells players, foolish statement

@civildiscourse7626 Жыл бұрын

@@vargo3689 not every clubs fortunes are completely turned around by ownership. Truthfully with or without Jose Chelsea would have succeeded under ABRAMOVICH

@JRW1886 Жыл бұрын

@@vargo3689 not at that level at that time period….foolish statement

@kadiummusic Жыл бұрын

Money.

@Christopher_J Жыл бұрын

Far from an Gooner but what Wenger done at the Arsenal; revolutionising the nutrition and conditioning of his players and going toe to toe with great Utd teams on a fraction of the budget that Pep has to play with is outstanding. In his latter years he became a victim of his own method inasmuch as he failed to adapt to the changing economic climate which resulted in so many of his top players getting snapped up by rivals. Regardless, his place in the epl hall of fame is thoroughly deserved.

@theslugboiii5969 Жыл бұрын

Pep isn't close to Fergie. He's probably a bit closer to Wenger but still not on the same level. Wenger revolutionised the science and training sides of football, went a full season unbeaten and was still managing to get Arsenal into the top 4 every season even working on a reduced budget after having helped fund a new stadium. Plus he played fantastic football and signed some of the all time greats.

@eL--RaL Жыл бұрын

What?! Pep in his lowest form>>>Fergi 🤣🤣🤣

@mikem8211 Жыл бұрын

@e'L What has Pep done since Barca? Won league titles with the best & biggest budget teams in the league. Fergie took United to they're first title in 26 years that's history

@bluemoon1716 Жыл бұрын

Pep hasn't been a coach as long as the other two. But what pep accomplished at a younger age and shorter amount of time is incredible

@theslugboiii5969 Жыл бұрын

@@bluemoon1716 Pep had a Barca team that contained arguably the greatest player ever, three of the best midfielders of their generation, one of the best CBs of all time and several other world class players. He was always going to be successful with them. But at Bayern and City all he’s really done is the bare minimum that’s expected of them and had pretty much the biggest budget in the league. What Fergie did at Aberdeen was next level and then building 3-4 dynasty teams with Man Utd just shows he’s the GOAT

@harryhall5104 Жыл бұрын

Slug boi doesn’t know ball 😅😅😅

@2Sho4Dem Жыл бұрын

To me Jose should be in there before either Pep or Jurgen. Truly a great manager, and gets disrespected because of his personality. This is besides the point but anyone who wins a UCL will Porto is a great manager in my eyes. Pep on the other hand has stepped into the best teams in the world at every club he’s been in so I can’t respect his achievements as much because he’s always had more than everyone else.

@civildiscourse7626 Жыл бұрын

No, Jose has had peaks and declines- pep is clear, I think klopp could be next with a couple more wins

@yangazilwa1183 Жыл бұрын

Lol this is PL hall of fame and Pep is clear in that regard, unless porto ucl counts as a pl achievement😂

@eL--RaL Жыл бұрын

Yeah right..These kids who heard Mourinho winning Champions league with Porto be like "Oh wow! 😱🤯 Mourinho won the champions league with Porto and Inter? How the F did he do that?!" Thinking that Porto and Inter were low level clubs that time ..He brought in his players before he could win, u kids!! 🤣🤣

@2Sho4Dem Жыл бұрын

@@eL--RaL inter weren’t a low level team, never said that. But don’t act like Porto in 2004 were one of the best teams in Europe or even had a great squad in general. Few players went onto do great things but that’s it. No one thought they would win.

@2Sho4Dem Жыл бұрын

@@yangazilwa1183 I literally said “this is besides the point” meaning it had little relevancy to the PL. I’m just stating a great achievement that Jose accomplished with a team that weren’t the greatest compared to how Pep has always had the greatest teams whilst he’s been a manager.

@adammac4960 Жыл бұрын

To be honest the golden age of the premier league was probs from when it was formed to 2008 maybe? Anything after that is just love island players and greedy owners so would have to rank top three Ferguson, Arsene and Mourinho. Pep is the greatest modern day manager. To continue that success with them players and keep the pop stars motivated needs a nod like.

@stnbch3025 Жыл бұрын

Lol... The PL has been following the same trend for 30 years. Sugar daddy Blackburn vs United. Sugar daddy Newcastle vs United. Sugar daddy Arsenal vs United. Sugar daddy Chelsea vs United. City replacing United in a league full of idi0ts spending money.

@EP591 Жыл бұрын

Also let's not forget Wenger started the whole "top 4" thing and made it seem like a trophy in itself 🤣🤣. He has to get points for that as well

@lenninmachiri8448 Жыл бұрын

Pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp

@martyngibson3036 Жыл бұрын

Isn’t it funny. He got ridiculed for it years ago, now everyone sees it more important than a trophy. His thinking was always years ahead of everyone

@streetfashiontv9149 Жыл бұрын

@@martyngibson3036 thank you. When individuals are introducing concepts, ideas and methods that are criticized by their peers at the time but applauded in years to come their achievements are never fully appreciated until they have passed. As for competition yes it's more competitive now but only because there is more money being distributed amongst teams in the UK. The same doesn't apply to other leagues like Spain which are less competitive.

@samueladetogun1415 Жыл бұрын

I am shocked Jose wasn't even mentioned 🤷🤷🤷

@Mr.93.20 Жыл бұрын

Pep is the Messi of managers. He’s 3rd all time in trophies in 15 seasons as a manager incredible.

@petechambers541 Жыл бұрын

Tell us you know nothing about football without saying so

@nicmonberg5974 Жыл бұрын

Lets see him at a club with tight budget I expect we would do nothing

@Mr.93.20 Жыл бұрын

@@nicmonberg5974 Why would he go to a smaller club?

@Mr.93.20 Жыл бұрын

@@petechambers541 How so? The facts back up everything I said.

@noneofyourbeeswax01 Жыл бұрын

Statistics without any context can make anyone seem great. It's easier to win things when you only ever manage one of the very top teams in the league with one of the biggest budgets. Try winning a European trophy with Sevilla or Aberdeen. Pep can't even do it with Bayern or Man City!

@Ben_Gunner Жыл бұрын

All 3 managers are the best in their own particular method, ideology and impact they had and still have on the fabric of Football.

@MK_ANIK Жыл бұрын

How could Simon Jordan completely forget about Chelsea at the beginning of 2000 when it was bought by Roman Abramovich and how much Romans poured into that said club?! He was the chairman of Crystal Palace back then. Fergie had to compete with Chelsea, Arsenal, and Liverpool occasionally. Sir Alex did secure a lot of titles in that decade. Surely he is the BEST football manager of all time. I still regret that we couldn't win more UCL but we were in 3 finals winning once.

@chucky7826 Жыл бұрын

4 finals

@ismith9356 Жыл бұрын

The problem is, Chelsea started the open chequebook style of ownership which has arguably ruined football. Another reason I can never back pep, he’s played the game with a cheat code. Yes they play good football but with the money he’s got over the years, so could I

@MK_ANIK Жыл бұрын

@@chucky7826 I know, I meant for 2000-2010s.

@mattgee1118 Жыл бұрын

Two of those were against the greatest player to ever live in the greatest club team to ever live.

@MK_ANIK Жыл бұрын

@@mattgee1118 That's why I am still salty toward Leo Messi.

@ElPigeonMan Жыл бұрын

Pep completely changed football, the reason why spain dominated the international scene for like 6 years

@englishtalentfc9175 Жыл бұрын

Spain won Euro 2008 while pep was managing barca B 🤡 it was a generational side

@ih4447 Жыл бұрын

Nothing to do with pep, Spain won euro 2008 when pep had been in the barca job for less than a month. They just happened to have a great golden age of players, to claim its because of pep they dominated is ludicrous.

@petechambers541 Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha

@Wrioncnkiye Жыл бұрын

All I can say is that EPL has been spoiled with great, great managers. While SAF and AW are the godfathers of elite EPL managers, Jose, Pep, and Jurgen Klopp are making their marks in their own ways. I can still remember how intimidating Jose's first Chelsea team - they looked undefeatable for a long period of time. Eventually, I think both Jose and Pep would rightly be honoured with their entry into the hall of frame. But I think the key is "in their own way." How lucky we have been in the last 30 years.

@jackgreen3978 Жыл бұрын

100% agree Jose and Pep will inevitably be inducted into it. I'm surprised the boys on the show never gave Jose as an example though

@nicklyons8678 Жыл бұрын

I agree with Jose and pep im not sure about kloop though

@indiechana9771 Жыл бұрын

Klopp? One title!!! Even Ranieri has one!

@user-he2ou2ex2f Жыл бұрын

They’ll obviously be in the hall of fame. Harry Redknapp eventually will be.

@TheWorldsGoneMad2022 Жыл бұрын

@@indiechana9771Klopp finished 3 seasons over 90 points. Sir Alex and Wenger never did.

@MRBp2024 Жыл бұрын

Arsene Wenger won 3 PL title in his first 7 years. Wenger also lost out on 2 PL titles, just barely within those first 7 years, missing by 1 point. If City don't win it this season & Arsenal win it by 8+ points. Pep would have won 4 PL titles in 7 years, he's basically won every title City were in for. Wenger was in 6 title races in 7 years, winning 3. Pep was in 4 title races in 7 years, winning 4. Pep also did it with an open checkbook, then been able to then overhaul replace that winning team. Less impressive accomplishment given the tools, although his team was arguably stronger overall.

@hsbnsse Жыл бұрын

Don't forget arsenal were robbed a CL and in CL semi

@lfcspectre4335 Жыл бұрын

Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber ✊

@sahandsamavti3682 Жыл бұрын

People seem to forget how influencal Peps Barcelona side were for football around Europe. People in the media, including Talksport, wanted to play tiki-taka football instead of the try and tested 4-4-2 with more focus on technique instead of physicality.

@shahzadirani 11 ай бұрын

People seem to forget that Without the help of the referees, Pep would have ZERO UCLs and that Barcelona team would NOT even be spoken about today. Thank the referees for Fraudiola’s false legacy.

@thetifosimsc5231 Жыл бұрын

The game has come so far since SAF retired and the man that spearheaded that change is Pep Guardiola. He schooled SAF twice too in CL finals. He’s been in the Prem for Almost 6 years and won it all and broke records. People talk about spend but SAF spent ridiculous money compared to his rivals. He’s way ahead of them all including SAF, but nostalgia will make people see otherwise.

@michaelwilkinson7957 Жыл бұрын

Your statement on financials is completely incorrect in all generations. Not to mention in the second half of his tenure (let’s say early 2000’s… Man Utd were way out in front of money generated) Barcelona took their model for revenue generation for Christ’s sake. You’re utterly delusional or 15 which one is it? A man who built 3 world beating teams over 3 separate generations of football (staying in touch with the game), the last manager to beat Real Madrid in a European final (that was with Aberdeen), the only manager to break the chokehold in Scotland between Celtic and Rangers (again with Aberdeen, and it hasn’t been done since). The list goes on… we’re not comparing that to someone who’s stepped into a ready made team with an unlimited budget and no actual restrictions to operate under (including the fair play legislation of the game) are we?

@kennethbedward7436 Жыл бұрын

Don't forget that Wenger always build a team meanwhile Pep always put teams together with a lot of expensive players so Pep still hasn't proven himself

@waliyuddintahir1492 Жыл бұрын

How doesn’t matter wether he had money or not winning the league 4 in 6 is crazy you act as if they were the only ones to spend money pep could finish his pl career with 7

@sayandeb6459 Жыл бұрын

Cry more 🤡🤡

@s.m280 Жыл бұрын

Still he had some of the best players on the planet never won enough league titles or won a champions league...facts

@stnbch3025 Жыл бұрын

Wenger was an import manager throughout his career.

@waliyuddintahir1492 Жыл бұрын

@@stnbch3025 didn’t say that he wasn’t

@lacaradofeeds5973 Жыл бұрын

Pep is the 🐐.. no argument about it!!! I don't even like what I'm saying..😅

@natnaelmesfin9120 Жыл бұрын

Sir Alex and Wenger were truly great managers but I cant believe how mourinho is not in the conversation

@ismailaden7 Жыл бұрын

Not England deffo but Pep deserves hall of fame of the world. What he brought to world football is amazing.

@leemartin3429 Жыл бұрын

😂

@bluemoon1716 Жыл бұрын

@@leemartin3429 education yourself lad

@polarisnorth4875 Жыл бұрын

Wenger didnt do it with insane amounts of money and he didnt change the game like Wenger.

@ajnz2420 Жыл бұрын

yeah, 442 was revolutionary. Mourinho's first Chelsea side was a bigger shift in style.

@FB17893 Жыл бұрын

We ain’t talking about Pep untill fergy,wenger and Jose. These 3 are solidified the best 3 managers in premier league history without a doubt.

@mosesclinton1163 Жыл бұрын

Jose above pep HELL NO

@FB17893 Жыл бұрын

@@mosesclinton1163 every day of the week

@mosesclinton1163 Жыл бұрын

@@FB17893 How when jose is always sacked for being awful

@FB17893 Жыл бұрын

@@mosesclinton1163 just remember who built that Chelsea team who dominated alongside United and arsenal. Pep couldn’t lace the other 3

@mosesclinton1163 Жыл бұрын

@@FB17893 how long has pep been dominating epl he even won a treble FFS 🤦

@adrianpillai6645 Жыл бұрын

Easy question. In terms of trophies, it's Sir Alex, Pep, Wenger. In terms of legacy, it's Sir Alex (for building the empire that is Man Utd), Wenger a close second (for invincibles, and ensuring Arsenal have a modern stadium), then Pep.

@quabsentertainment4413 Жыл бұрын

It’s about the era which these managers manage during the premiere league era. These’s no point comparing these manager. Wenger was great during the early years of the premier league history and Pep is great for these era for the premier league history

@shahinm2852 Жыл бұрын

Ferguson had a big transfer budget in comparison to the teams he was competing with until chelsea came along. Wenger and arsenal were pushing above their weight for large parts of the Ferguson wenger rivalry.

@jameshall6061 Жыл бұрын

Ferguson had more home grown players than Arsenal and Chelsea.

@pinealdreams1064 Жыл бұрын

Ferguson didn't always have that, look at 96 where he had to sell a load of players, couldn't afford major signings, and had to blood in his youth players - Scholes, Beckham, Nevilles AND won the double that season. Blackburn had more direct spending power than United in 95, building that Shearer/Sutton team. Newcastle outspent United between 95 and 97, breaking the world record on Shearer. Arsenal were the first English team to break twenty million - on Anelka, in 1999. Leeds then went on a spending spree between 99 and 2001. United ONLY broke 20 million for the first time on Veron in 2001. A summer where they finally did go out and spend a crazy amount. Chelsea got their money in 2003. United were only 'had a big transfer budget compared to the teams he was competing against' between the years 2001 - 2003. Outside of that, other clubs outspent United. It just kept rotating.

@blessedpapa Жыл бұрын

@@pinealdreams1064 Yes, they also sold their best player Cristiano for record fee and still won two more titles (and lost one to City in the last minute of the season). I dont think Pep would lose his best player to other teams and still be able to win the league.

@civildiscourse7626 Жыл бұрын

Look up the premier league big spenders each season- you’d be surprised to see United weren’t first as much as you’d think.

@aronmaddocks2736 Жыл бұрын

Wrong the spending back in those days between the big four was nearly the same, But between 93/00 united were mid table for transfers , you clowns just see 30m and think we outspent everyone, while we spent 30m on Rio Liverpool would spend 30 million on 4 players ,same with arsenal who have always had money same with spurs ,even city outspent united in the 90s.

@rileydibling9883 Жыл бұрын

For me, Even though I really Rate pep. I think what Arsene and Alex Ferguson were able to achieve ranks higher. Reason being is there resources were dramatically smaller. Pep has only won and achieved with clubs that had bottomless budgets and unbelievable squads. Arsene managed to build an unbelievable squad with fairly small budget and astute scouting with Alex Ferguson, managing to win the premier league with a fairly average squad at times.

@lani1988 Жыл бұрын

Danny tryna put Klop in there. 😭

@vikingfrog7204 Жыл бұрын

As a liverpool fan Sir Alex will always be the better than Pep. He didn't consistently spend massive. Infact towards the end he didn't invest enough and still managed crazy success.

@faghriedaniels Жыл бұрын

Pep has the 10th lowest net spend over the last 5 years so Man City might spend but they also sell which is the part that gets overlooked every time.

@michaelthompson7022 Жыл бұрын

Pep did it in 3 different countries

@s.m280 Жыл бұрын

Fergie never broke records for spending...Rio 30mil back then was the equivalent of 85 90 million today dont be foolish thinking he never spent big

@jamiehayes5888 Жыл бұрын

@@michaelthompson7022not relevant really. Every club he has managed has had the monopoly regarding players and spending . Bayern only had dortmund to contend with same as barca regarding Madrid. Not just that look at the player pep inherited at barca 😂 Messi Iniesta Xavi And a ton more how can you fail ?

@thierryhenry674 Жыл бұрын

It’s not easy to tell who is better because they have different resources and different players. You can think of it this way. If a teacher has the best group of students, and they get great results, does it automatically mean the teacher is bad, because “anyone” can teach this group of students and get great results? Maybe, it could be. But can it be that, that teacher also has the best teaching skills in the world? Yes, that is also possible. Now, if that teacher with the best teaching skills in the world, is teaching the best group of student, and getting great results. And another teacher who has the second best teaching skills in the world, is leading a poor group of student to get a great result. Do you think which teacher is better? Of course the teacher with the best teaching skills in the world is better. That’s why you can’t just judge by the resource or the players they have. You have to judge by their tactical sophistication.

@PrinceZ2510 Жыл бұрын

Klop is more like a Wenger building squads and managing within a budget whilst building the clubs infrastructure. Pep more like Fergie, biggest budget in the league (by far) + style and domination. For Simon to say the league is more competitive… Citeh have dominated for almost a decade

@undefeated7314 Жыл бұрын

Stop comparing cheque book managers to legendary managers

@Mr.93.20 Жыл бұрын

Pep is a legendary manager

@petechambers541 Жыл бұрын

@@Mr.93.20 no...he is not , not will he ever be

@PerfectMask1 Жыл бұрын

@@Mr.93.20 Legend at not challenging himself.

@Mr.93.20 Жыл бұрын

@@petechambers541 He’s 3rd all time in trophies 😂😂😂 that’s pretty legendary. Where are your facts?

@Mr.93.20 Жыл бұрын

@@PerfectMask1 He left Barca to challenge himself 😂 where are your facts?

@troytaylor5746 Жыл бұрын

Pep can talk to Ferguson but he can chat to Wenger

@menosscott Жыл бұрын

A few United fans said Sir Alex shouldve been inducted on his own and not along side Wenger cause what he did at United stood on its own not just in England but world football. I agree with that sentiment but at the same time inducting them together and highlighting the 16 titles won between them just somewhat diminishes Wengers achievements at Arsenal since 13 to 3 titles isnt anywhere near. I felt they both shouldve been inducted separately and their achievements as managers be highlighted individually. But that's just my opinion.

@simonmenzies3142 Жыл бұрын

Wenger is tops when you take into account funds available. And the legacy he built a new stadium. The club arsenal are after he left is unrecognisable to that before. Fergi left utd in a state. Pep is great by not a wenger.

@extricos Жыл бұрын

Gaurdiola done it through unlimited funds. Completely different than Wenger who got success through his innovative ways and technique and finding gems all over Europe and turning them into world beaters. I definitely know what's more harder.

@romanparisi5503 Жыл бұрын

Wenger built winning Teams on a budget, Pep has NEVER done that he will always be behind Jose and Wenger for me as a result!

@Bartizzle739 Жыл бұрын

Behind them

@dellboy1775 Жыл бұрын

In terms of premier league I would say it goes fergie pep arsen then mourinho but they are only in that order in terms of longevity. In terms of who is the best then Pep is the best out of all of them

@brianwahinya1245 Жыл бұрын

Did I just dream all those Jose Mourinho Premier League years?If so then that's a massive relief as an Arsenal fan.Must have just been one of my nightmares

@danoku5582 Жыл бұрын

They came from different Era and had different financial support. Who knows what Wenger would have achieved if he went to Real Madrid or was supported in Arsenal financially, and who also knows if Guardiola will do well in a less financially buoyant club

@faghriedaniels Жыл бұрын

Go check his stint at Barcelona. Or does that not fit in with your narrative?

@kattphatt Жыл бұрын

Mourinho could win CL with Porto and Inte but couldn't with more money at Real, Chelsea and Man Utd... Pep's style relies on qaulity becuase it's the hardest style to master. He says this himself. Why would he go to a lesser team when he knows the players will not be good enough? You're kind of answering a question we all know and making it seem like a bad thing when Pep literally knows what environments he needs to succeed.

@rohithraman6488 Жыл бұрын

@@kattphatt People forget that it was Mourinho who laid the foundations for RM's European success, they couldn't have looked further away from it when he arrived

@kattphatt Жыл бұрын

@@rohithraman6488 but he didn't win it. What did he lay for Man Utd?

@rohithraman6488 Жыл бұрын

@@kattphatt So what? Do you not realise how important foundations are?

@paulstones1451 Жыл бұрын

Would love to see if fergie would of won so many titles if the league was competitive as it is now as back in the 90s the league was nor competitive like it is now

@markant9534 Жыл бұрын

fergie won his last title in 2014

@paulstones1451 Жыл бұрын

@@markant9534 and the league then is still not as competitive then as it is now if he was manager now of Man U he definitely won’t of won so many titles 90s he had no competition and bought the other clubs best players well most of them one or two wouldn’t sign for him

@ismailmiah1446 Жыл бұрын

You twatt... Ferguson as a huge underdog won with Aberdeen

@yohannesmisikir7056 Жыл бұрын

@@paulstones1451 that's a myth the league was competitive back there as it is now In all honestly the league now is pretty embarrassing only Liverpool competed with City in the last 5 years. PL golden era was from 1998- 2009

@biniamdebesay6594 Жыл бұрын

Jose needs to be there ofc

@claudemakelele2856 Жыл бұрын

Of course

@thedorianjones Жыл бұрын

I get Simons point about the money involved in football and the rich owners today is at an all time high... but he's forgotten that Roman came in at Chelsea with ludicrous money at the time had peak Mourinho as the coach, Sir Alex still managed overcome that & win PL titles... Man City came in later & yet again Sir Alex still managed to rebuild a team & win PL titles.

@MuslimsTalkSports Жыл бұрын

Defiantly below SAF and possibly Wenger too. Pep relied heavily on money and at Barca he already had a world class team

@sayandeb6459 Жыл бұрын

Money is not everything you clown, you need brain for that other Chelsea, utd, psg would've won multiple tittles . Grow up

@bluemoon1716 Жыл бұрын

No he made that team and brought youth players from the B team. That's such a lazy argument with no knowledge about it

@MuslimsTalkSports Жыл бұрын

@@bluemoon1716 no he made them all better players I agree but they were all very young and talented already

@NA-pc1cq Жыл бұрын

Darren Farley would be buzzing 5:43 “doesn’t round the circle” Actually don’t mind Simon btw 👍🏽

@vanman266 Жыл бұрын

Wenger achieved greatness through talent. Pep has bought it.

@tlangelanishikwambana8596 Жыл бұрын

How does Wenger's trophy cabinet support this?

@mikewright293 Жыл бұрын

Pep is undoubtedly a fantastic coach but unproven with a limited budget always had a blank chequebook the best players money could buy.could he have got top 4 or won trophies with some of the teams that Wenger had in the past post 2010

@davewood1982 Жыл бұрын

Jose for what he achieved at Chelsea, Pep and Klopp for obvious reasons, what about king Kenny for what he achieved at Liverpool and Blackburn, Gerard houllier for winning a treble, Rafa benitez for winning a CL,, Sir Bobby Robson at Newcastle all should be names that'll eventually be inducted

@andrewroberts4736 Жыл бұрын

No one will repeat Sir Alex Ferguson's achievements because no manager will be given the time at the start of his tenure to get it right. His achievements are amazing, but the board of directors at United at the time need some credit.

@creepingbrain Жыл бұрын

Mark Robbins needs some credit too. If he hadn't scored that goal in the cup at Forest I do think United would have sacked SAF, and history would have been very different.

@stevenattias1803 Жыл бұрын

Eric cantona also turned Alex Ferguson's fortune's around

@cali8879 Жыл бұрын

Peps already above Wenger, and I’m an Arsenal fan. Highest point tally is more impressive than invisibles. 4 titles in 5 seasons. Done it at multiple clubs.. pep closer to Fergie than Wenger is.

@Gizo02 Жыл бұрын

Ferguson is the greatest manager ever IMO, with him continually adapting to a rapidly evolving football landscape and winning trophy after trophy for more than 30 years with Aberdeen and Man Utd. However Guardiola unlike Ferguson, Wenger, Mourinho, Klopp (who all won 0 major trophies as players), also enjoyed a hugely successful and trophy laden playing career. So his overall footballing career tops any of theirs including Ferguson’s - reaching the pinnacle of club football and winning trophy after trophy as a player, and then reaching the pinnacle of club football and winning even more trophies as a manager, must be incredibly special.

@2Sho4Dem Жыл бұрын

I truly feel that if Wenger was backed by his owners as much as some of these other managers were, he’d of equaled Alex Ferguson’s PL titles but it is what it is. For me, even getting that Arsenal team into the top 4 for that long was a severe overachievement considering some of the players that were in that team compared to other title challenging squads. Will always love and respect that guy for what he done for us.

@stnbch3025 Жыл бұрын

Wenger was the original import manager d*mb*ss.

@michaelthompson7022 Жыл бұрын

Arsenal never had the finances that united have

@mister3566 Жыл бұрын

So your players weren't as good as United's? Wow, you talk some shite.

@civildiscourse7626 Жыл бұрын

Nah, he might have won a few more but not the same as fergie though

@nabilshafec7169 Жыл бұрын

I wonder how good Pep would be if he was handcuffed financially

@jameshall9654 Жыл бұрын

Pep is an incredible manager, you can see that in the way his teams play. He’s always going to be judged though by the money he spent. If Fergie or Wenger had the kind of money he had they’d have done things.

@TheMrClutchy Жыл бұрын

Higher than both of them if you actually look at it fairly. There is a reason pep has spent so much time at top clubs.

@rohithraman6488 Жыл бұрын

Jose and Pep should be in soon

@terence1635 Жыл бұрын

Mourinho should be in, after Pep, if you look at what is done in the English game.

@kabelomaragelo2745 Жыл бұрын

Danny Murphy sure does love himself some Jurgen

@dootwoot Жыл бұрын

What's with the "Martin Keown Arsenal invincible"😂

@RApollos107 Жыл бұрын

As much as I would despise that guy getting the recognition of being a Hall of Famer, when you look at his resume in the Premier League it’s really hard to sit there and not say “Jose Mourinho”.

@Mr16lower Жыл бұрын

Built teams/stadium , change philosophy , training sports science etc Invincible. Pep billionaire owners buy best players in every position where no one can compete and win that’s real difficult!

@theycallmebaus Жыл бұрын

Surprised they didn't mention Jose Mourinho. The special one.

@SuziesAshes10 Жыл бұрын

You could argue Wenger didn’t have half the resources Pep did and played just as attractive football. Made players superstars too when others didn’t see it. Pep more successful certainly but how would Wenger have faired had he taken the Madrid job with limitless cash? We will never know.

@scotlandinvestor7779 Жыл бұрын

Jose and Kenny Dalglish should be next inductions. Then Pep n Klopp

@ashantikesterjunior7990 Жыл бұрын

It’s crazy Jose mourinho wasent mentioned

@gtr5973 Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure embarrassing that since the founding of the English Premier League over 30 years ago not a single English manager has won a title.

@GreenHarpFinancial Жыл бұрын

Fergies' Impact on United is unmatched and the trophies speak for themselves, but I think Wenger, Ibromivhich, and Pep did more for the prem and English football. Wenger training methods and fitness diet while bringing in foreign players, Wenger killed the drinking culture which was long gone in Spain and Italy. , Ibromivich's Money and players got Top talent and superstars from the best teams in Europe, for the first time ever Italian and Spanish money was overshadowed Solidifying the Prem as the best league in the world. he also brought a progressive manager in Mourinho who ushered the era of 4-3--3 and 4-5-1 getting ride of 4-4-2. Pep truly killed off the Big sam football and ushered in the style of play every team in England aspires to and teams Hire Managers based on that style.

@MetaFootballTV Жыл бұрын

Guardiola implemented the Barcelona style into English football when everyone wrote him off. Fergie... didn't.

@gigii9419 Жыл бұрын

Beyond that he adapted his style multiple times

@ih4447 Жыл бұрын

They play nothing like Barca, he changed his philosophy to win in England

@Cespar997 Жыл бұрын

With a CL trophy with City and he is on their level. He has made 1 final which is the same as Poch if I'm not mistaken.

@DB-07 Жыл бұрын

Fergie also didn’t break 100 FFP rules.

@MetaFootballTV Жыл бұрын

@@DB-07 Pep didn't either as he doesn't sign players, the board does.

@ellisjames8517 Жыл бұрын

As a united fan always will be SAF 1st and wenger 2nd but Jose goes in next then pep

@shimnomdogo8400 Жыл бұрын

I'm an Arsenal fan and I honestly think there's an argument to be had for Pep

@Vargolis Жыл бұрын

Mourinhos so disrespected by mainstream media

@sonsofstretford3866 Жыл бұрын

Danny is obviously making a case for Benitez and Klopp

@markant9534 Жыл бұрын

benitez never won the league

@sonsofstretford3866 Жыл бұрын

@@markant9534 my point exactly, obvious Liverpool bias, Danny’s argument is basically no silverware (Klopp has just 1) but he’ll still want them in the hall of fame for finishing second Shocking how no one has mentioned Jose yet

@paspaulinbozart8767 Жыл бұрын

what does Simon smokes? Wenger the man who changed the English game, compared to Fiaurdiola the check book coach? Guiadiola is a coach Wenger is a manager.

@misstertash1701 Жыл бұрын

I stopped watching at the who was was pushing them economically question. DO people forget that Arsen done what he done with very little money at all. Pep is obviously amazing but how much money has he spent at each club? Arsen did not just do the unbeaten season. He played entertaining attacking football and won the league 3 times with teams that cost far less than other teams in the league at that time. (I wont count the FA cups he won as this is a premier league discussion). Sir Alex is obviously not even a discussion. Obviously he had more money than others but he would have done just as good with less money. Amazing manager.

@craig7780 Жыл бұрын

What about Wenger being the most successful FA cup manager EVER!! As well as being one of the lowest spending managers in the league during his time at arsenal. Not to mention how Wenger changed the way football players trained as well as the sports science he brought into world football. These two managers set the standard everyone else is building apon

@Zee123Hammer Жыл бұрын

It would be unfair ranking pep alongside fergie and wenger. If you're talking about ranking a manager with unlimited money then he wins.

@matthewm3869 Жыл бұрын

Let's wait until these financial issues have been resolved with City before we laud Pep. If City cheated and was able to buy more players from their rivals than they should've he shouldn't be in.

@jimmyc7624 Жыл бұрын

None of them could lace Cloughie's boots!

@ezraezra2928 Жыл бұрын

There's no debate about the successful manager in Premier League and England. Alex Ferguson vs Arsene Wenger rivalry: Alex Ferguson: 13 Premier League titles, 5 FA Cup titles, 2 Champions League titles. Arsene Wenger: 3 Premier League titles, 7 FA Cup titles. Pep Guardiola vs Jurgen Klopp rivalry: Pep Guardiola: 4 Premier League titles, 4 EFL Cup titles. Jurgen Klopp: Only single title for each 7 major competitions (Premier League, FA Cup, EFL Cup, Community Shield, Champions League, UEFA Super Cup, Club World Cup). Fergie-Wenger > Guardiola-Klopp.

@angellino1966 Жыл бұрын

Yes, if he has the chequebook😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@Prozac696 Жыл бұрын

I think they forget Wenger did this on a budget

@kevinkeegan7549 Жыл бұрын

There is one Englishman that should be next and that is Sir Bobby Robson🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿⚫⚪⚫⚪🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

@kayodebradnock8954 Жыл бұрын

Problem is that’s first division

@lehlogonolomamabolo1720 Жыл бұрын

No matter how you spin it, Ferguson’s records are undeniable. 13 Premier titles is no fluke, 1st and still the only English team to win the treble is no joke either. All that among more records.

@ultimategamer8330 Жыл бұрын

5 managers should be Hall of Fame. Fergie, Wenger Pep, Mourinho Ranieri. Thats where the list stop’s don’t try klopp please it’s embarrassing.

@draculemihawk6897 Жыл бұрын

I think this era of the EPL is much more competitive than the one from Ferguson and Wenger.

@IronicArsenal Жыл бұрын

Instead of celebrating these two managers, they want to clickbait 0:26

@tonyclifton2230 Жыл бұрын

Pep and ferguson played at fergusons peek and pep wiped the floor with him in both champions league finals.

@DB-07 Жыл бұрын

I’d like to see Pep win the PL with the squad Sir Alex had in 2012/13.

@mr_man06 Жыл бұрын

It was the same team that had equal points with champions city the year earlier + RVP (probably the best player in the league at that point) So yes pep probably wins it easily as well

@kattphatt Жыл бұрын

He doesn't have to, just like how Ferguson didn't have to face Pep's 100 point, Klopps 99 point & Peps 98 point teams. They faced each other back in the day. Someone got taught a lesson.

@pablomunacci774 Жыл бұрын

@@kattphatt Sir Alex faced Arsenal's invincibles and Jose's Chelsea (his first spell) what's your point?

@kattphatt Жыл бұрын

@@pablomunacci774 faced em & lost. Now he would have to face teams with as much spending power as he did back then, quality all round and more of the world's best managers. Not saying he wouldn't win, but you can't compare the overall quality of the two different eras. Was he going up against teams who have won champions leagues? Coz Chelsea and Arsenal hadn't I believe. He had better players. Lost to Pep in the most dominant display in a final we have ever seen. Fergie is great, but don't talk down Peps achievements just because you dislike him.

@stnbch3025 Жыл бұрын

Guardiola pretty much ended Ferguson his career at the European stage.

@bofelo_last Жыл бұрын

Unpopular Opinion Jurgen Klopp's Liverpool is Overrated 1 Premier League in 7 years...

@ministerg1258 Жыл бұрын

Obviously he'll win 4 PL with the huge financial backing he's had at City.Let him go & try Spurs or Everton such as Conté &Ancelotti,then we 'll see.Ferguson is the greatest ever to have done it in the PL.Period!

@faghriedaniels Жыл бұрын

Pep has the 10th lowest net spend over the last five years. That is a fact