How is Lebron's 4-6 better than Brady's 7-3? It's a lot more difficult to win a Superbowl than it is to win a NBA Finals.

Bill Russell is so overlooked, he won 11 championships 8 in a row.

Guys tom brady is the greatest QB of all time and there could be an argument that he's the greatest nfl player. But u can't say he's the greatest athlete. And not taking anything away from tom but being the QB u don't really need be athletic like a running back or a nba player or a ufc fighter or a boxer. Get my point

Imagine brady getting a 7 game series lol 😆 probably have 20 chips.... football is so much harder. 101 years and the best a guy could do was 4 and that was pre salary cap. Dude went to 10 won 7

It's hard with football, cause it's so much a team sport. Brady left because he couldn't do anything with the roster in New England. He needed help and got it.

damn serena looks beat up

MESSI Ronaldo??????

Greatest athlete In America I don’t know. Greatest athletes In the world messi and cristiano👏

I have nothing against black athletes but I do have something against people that immediately dismiss anyone that isn't black.

All Time GOATs List: 1) Kelly Slater 2) Wayne Gretzky 3) Ric Flair 4) Tony Hawk 5) Joey Chestnut 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

Thank You for bringing up Gretzky and Russell..those dudes are so under appreciate in the conversation

Danny Ainge was all american in football, baseball and basketball. Anybody else make that list ?

other sports are only being talked about only because the nfl has no one else to compare him to

is it just me or was there totally only 8-9 teams during like all of Bill Russells championships???

Hay my Jim sharp should be in this debate.

Hey Black Guyz. Does EVERYTHING have to a race issue? Just talk about the player, player.

The athletes in Bradys time with salary cap and parity is a way harder degree of difficulty by multiples

Everyone forgets about Yogi Berra in baseball. . . Guy has 10 as a player and 3 as a coach and for the stat nerds when a pitcher had him as a catcher or a coach the pitcher's average ERA was always at the best in their careers. I love Brady but IMO he is number three behind Bill Russell and Yogi Berra.

You can tell even other athletes felt disrespected by people not giving Brady credit cause of Bill

Gretzky love, awesome

Serious question, who is Tom Brady

It's apples to oranges. You can't really compare. Yes, Bill Russell has the most titles but he didn't have 250 pound line backers trying to tackle him.

I think you can make a case now for him to be #2 behind Muhammad Ali Who was by far the best Boxer in the golden era of Boxing. But He is now ahead of MJ.

Dude I agree Bill freaking Russell! I argue this all the time. Then Tom Brady.

The disrespect to Ma'a Nonu and Dan Carter.

Hank wasn’t the player Ruth was

probably at the top. Its all hardwork and talent. I do agree its dumb to compare out side of your specific sport. NBA is barley a team sport.

How about this..he is the most dominate at being the best in his sport then the other athletes in their sport? Mainly due to longevity, age and not ever losing a step 🤔 He literally won a ring every two years since 2015

CHECK OUT THESE STATS I know everyone is sick about hearing of TB12 as the GOAT. The reason I cannot stop dissecting his career is that I truly do not think his leadership and greatness can be overstated. He plays the ultimate team sport where EVERY playoff game is a win or go home deciding game. Think about that! EVERY game is like a game 7. In basketball and baseball and hockey you have 5 or 7 game series. In tennis, you play marginal players before the quarterfinals. American football stands out for the pressure and finality of each and every playoff game. So I thought it would be interesting to see how our greatest sports heroes have fared in “win or go home” games. These could be game 7’s (for 7 game series) or game 5’s (for 5 game series) or a game in the middle of a series where if you lose you go home. I can only conclude Brady is the most clutch and greatest player in major modern sports history. Only Bill Russell rivals over all of history. RECORD IN DECIDING (win or go home) GAMES BILL RUSSELL: 11-2 (84.6%) ****************************** TOM BRADY: 34-11 (75.6%) ****************************** TERRY BRADSHAW: 14-5 (73.7%) JOE MONTANA: 16-7 (69.6%) AARON RODGERS: 12-9 (57.1%) PEYTON MANNING: 14-13 (51.2%) YOGI BERRA: 5-5 (50.0%) LARRY BIRD: 8-9 (47.1%) LEBRON JAMES: 7-10 (41.2%) KOBE BRYANT: 7-11 (38.9%) MICHAEL JORDAN: 4-7 (36.4%) MAGIC JOHNSON: 3-8 (27.3%) WAYNE GRETSKY: 4-12 (25.0%) TIM DUNCAN: 3-13 (18.8%) SUPERBOWL VS MAJORS FINALS PETE SAMPRAS: 14-4 (78%) ****************************** TOM BRADY: 7-3 (70%) ****************************** SERENA WILLIAMS 23-10 (70%) ROGER FEDERER: 20-11 (65%) TIGER WOODS: 15-67 (18.3%) #mindblown #TheGoat #TB12

Michael Smith just mentioned black players to hate on Brady STOP IT DUDE!!! Im Black and Brady is the GOAT OF GOATS

Football is the tougher sport than basketball.

Respect to Jordan , Brady , Magic , and Lebron , however , let's not forget about Bill Russell and his 11 championship titles , as well as Stepping into a ring with no protection but YOUR SKILLS... " Muhammad Ali " , The Greatest.

Lebrons legacy does not come close to Brady's stop it

Only decathlon winners can be considered best athletes of all time ...

Every one wants to use basketball. FOOTBALL has 11 on each side of the ball. I think this goat talk is all crap. Keep the conversation to each sport.

What? Greatest player of all time! No one is saying greatest athlete.:(

El mejor de todos los tiempos es nada mas y nada menos que Ronaldinho Gaucho

Bill Russell definitely and Tom Brady!! GOATS!

The sad thing is race place a major part in this discussion. If Brady were black this wouldn’t even be up for debate ✅

I Love Sireena Williams And She Is Speaking The Truth Yo Keep Hatin Bro When Brady Wins And When He Loses He Comes Back Stronger NFL Is A If Not The Hardest Sport To Keep Going At 43 Bro Really!!!!!!!❤ I Gotta Say This You Are Hatin Cause He's White And He's 43 Still Winning Bill Russell Won 11 Because The League Was Less Then 10 Teams and by 1965 there were only 17 teams Jordan Left Couldn't Win Montana Left Couldn't Win And Brady Has Many Records He Is A Leader Keep Hatin Man No Hate No Disrespect Just Saying

They never called Eddie Robinson the goat. He was called the most winningest coach of all time.

Damn foo with idiot biases... there ain’t nobody competing and leading and turning the bottom of barrel franchise instantly to world champion in 1 yr at a “senior citizen of pro athletes” like TB12. He’s got enough of a career past 37 (when most already retired) alone to be HOF/GOaT. Ask LBJ to win 4 rings more at his age going forward. He ain’t nvr gonna do that.

Brady's brain is the best athlete of all time!!!

He ranks first.

Sorry. You can't compare them. Brady NEVER PLAYED DEFENSE! Two different sports shouldn't be compared. You can't have the same impact playing 50% of the game as someone who plays every play A NFL player can never impact the game as way an elite NBA player can. Lol, but nice try though 😂

I think jordan has the GURU who is a SO SO COACH.. YOU SAY JORDAN DID IT TO HIMSELF.. DID JORDAN RELY ON TRIANGLE... DID JORDAN HAS TEAMMATES.. WHO'S PIPPEN? WHO'S RODMAN? WTF.. BRADY IS BETTER THAN JORDAN @43... BY THE WAY.. @37 @38 @39 @41 @42... WHERE IS JORDAN DURING THIS TIME... I'LL LEAVE IT JUST LIKE THAT ...

the word athlete means literally athletic ability... doesnt matter the ring. bo jackson is number one... the rest is up for grabs

The Goats in my opinion by sport: Soccer: Lionel Messi NFL: Tom Brady Baseball: Babe Ruth Tennis: Roger Federer & Serena Williams Basketball: Michael Jordan Golf: Jack Nicholas by a hair but if you like tiger more that’s cool. Boxing: Muhammad Ali MMA: GSP Swimming: Michael Phelps Track: Usain Bolt Formula 1: Michael Schumacher Hockey: Wayne Gretzky

Before yesterday I had Gretzky as my team sports GOAT, I now have Tom Brady. He’s won more than Jordan and Gretzky, his longevity is better than those two. He’s been dominant in terms of winning more (20 years of being in title contention is insane ). His peak is comparable to those two. He’s won a ring on two separate teams. He’s been more clutch than both of them. I know the other two played both ways but Quarterback is the toughest position in all of sports. He’s the 🐐 of 🐐’s but it will tough for Jordan fanboys to admit it 😂

He is the goat of sports. Fuck race it has nothing to do with it. He’s the goat. Watch him win another 2. This just gonna fuel him

Michael smiles like a fool. At everything...

.... but if Brady was black...

Micheal seem like he just want the goat to be black cuz ever name he brought up was a black athlete smh stop it

You're mistaking athletic the adjective with athlete the profession. And, OK, there was more than 8 teams in the NBA when Russell (the great) won eleven... so how many were there? And you're counting season MVPs? There are 1696 players in the NFL to choose from. How many in the NBA? Brady has dominated the NFL like no other football player by a country mile. Lapping most of his competition.

NBA is a soft ass sport there’s a reason why anyone can play a pick up game , There’s CTE in NFL enough said

F#@k no, Brady over lebron

Tom Brady belongs in the same company as Pete Rose.

Segregation & ONLY U.S. aside.....!

what a trash take

Someone convince me that Serena Williams is not a man. I haven’t been convinced yet

Brady is the greatest qb ever,but he is certainly not the greatest athlete ever

There are cases to be made for other athletes besides Brady, but these are terrible arguments by Holley and Smith. "You're just dismissing other athletes' accomplishments when you say Brady is the GOAT of GOATS." Well yeah, you just said he's the greatest football player of all time--how is that not dismissing the accomplishments of other players? Also, the NBA had 8 teams in 1957 to 1962, then 9 teams in 1963 to 1966, then it started expanding (10, 12, 14) in Russell's final three years. So he played the majority of his career in an NBA that had only 8 or 9 teams. The factoid is slightly inaccurate, but generally correct. Also, it's hard to call someone the greatest of all time in any sport if there is substantial dispute about their own sport. If Russell, Jordan and James (as well as a few others) are still in an argument about the NBA's all-time best player, that hurts their case for "greatest player in any sport." Same with Ruth and Aaron, same with Williams and Navratilova, same with Nicklaus and Woods. The case for Brady? When Montana won his 15th and 16th playoff games with KC, that was considered a probably-unbreakable record, since practically no one in the new age of parity would possibly be able to maintain excellence long enough to keep piling up playoff wins at such a clip. We've been in an era of unprecedented QB talent since then, but no one has reached 16 (Peyton had 14, Favre had 13, Ben has 13, Rodgers has 11). ...Brady has 34. Omitting Brady's contribution to the Patriots, the most wins for a FRANCHISE is 36 (Packers and Steelers currently tied).

Jordan & the Jordan Brand can't be touch... Jordan's impact on the world alone is God like. Jordan is perfect no losses. 6-0 Ask yourself are you buying Under Armour sneakers...😂😂😂

The min Lebron wins his 5th mvp this debate is completely over. Lebron will be the only player in sports to win mvp on 3 different franchises the ONLY lmaooooo not to mention don’t let him win another championship and finals mvp that’s 5 finals MVPs on 3 different franchises and multiple finals MVPs on two different franchises while have 35k points 9k rebounds 9k assists man stop it. Lebron on track to break the most impressive record in sports history Kareem in points.

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