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You say smart man but (and maybe this is a bad example because i believe their are one or two open and doing OK) but would you consider buying into Blockbuster after they became a outdated business model? It seems if we read between the lines there is good chance they are still using discs for like storing nuclear codes etc. Impossible to remotely access etc.

The last man standing

That's not quite true. Other online market places like eBay are a huge market for obsolete media -like floppy diskettes.

@@samuelwoods164 Because he still has the market, period

cannot* btw here after 6 years, how's life? :)

​@@8yoboi No, it's can't not.

@@sammytiel Bro, my teeth's almost broke pronouncing "can't not"

I understand it's can't not, but you CAN'T use double negatives.

Some of this is a myth , for instance people using HD disks in DD drives.... and vice versa... the only things I can remember that messed up floppies was sitting it next to a CRT monitor (which degassed when turned on, also a common probalby on early portable PCs which had CRTs since people would leave the boot floppy in the drive and the display would degaus it when turning on). Perhaps new floppies are worse though... I'd like to see the paint used on the disks reverse engineered so people could make their own floppies with simple tools.

What I want to know is what happened to magnetic tape computers.

Recently bought two (new old stock) IBM USB floppy drives. Have found Dysan 3.5" floppies to be reliable. Why have I done this?... because I can 🙂

@@Wingnut353 I don't think its a paint I think it's a chrome/ferrite coating they put on/in the plastic, similar to cassette tapes. Though it's not really something someone could make themselves, in theory if you could find sheets of magnetized plastic like that you might be able to cut it out in a circle and glue it onto the metal spindle, then use it in an existing floppy case, or put it in a paper or plastic sleeve like the older 5.25 disks. Probably wouldn't be reliable though since these usually require industrial manufacturing otherwise they'll be less reliable due to dust, scratches, or just not having as good materials. If I ever find something magnetic like that which I could cut a disc shape out of I might try it just to see how long it lasts.

@@harryvendryes Do you know if your drive supports both High Density and Double Density Disks? I know that some newer drives only support High Density. I do have a Dell one I got used that seems to support both (though I only tried formatting HD floppies as DD, don't really want to try my DD floppies in it yet).

Hey, wouldn't want his competitors to find out all his secrets.....wait....

I guess your hardware of your "new" PC is to old too or to cheap to handle a modern operating system. But hey... still better than apple 😉

@@Gebieter Guess again. My Dell is a couple years old and has abundant RAM available - it loads and runs internet applications easily. But it also loads and runs anti-virus, anti-spyware, and countless other RAM-heavy applications, which not only consume RAM but also slow down the performance of other programs. And those programs are heavy, heavy, heavy with graphics and graphic interfaces to begin with. The goal of the programmer is to make it simple to use, but all that simplicity comes at a high cost of RAM. The DOS computer, on the other hand, uses no graphic interface at all - Everything requires a keyboard command. Letters and numbers only - no mouse, no touching the screen, no talking. Bits and bytes. The programs are small leaving a lot of RAM open to manipulate data. The programs are NOT written to be simple to use, but fast. I use the DOS computer for a database (dBase) and a spreadsheet (LOTUS 123) and each runs much faster on the old 386 than they do on the new Dell.

I use them as well because it is the easiest way to transfer data between my Raspberry Pi, modern Windows PC, classic Windows / DOS PC and C64. Sometimes I look for nicely designed diskettes on Ebay. Like, disks in different colors look much like the data storage medium used in Star Trek TOS. :-)

@@ROGER2095 I read someplace on quora from the experiences made by a few profetional pc builders at universities that when they were upgrading the ram of the pc from 4 gigabytes to like 12 gigabytes of ram, they were puzzled to find that the machine was still using 60 percent of the ram space. But what they learned from their trainers that the goal of computer storage is to make it to where it holds more useful instructions than compared to the computers with 4 gigabytes of ram resulting in it getting useful instructions, but too much to where it overflows, leading to the pc lagging. Soo, what I've read is that it is mostly good that for a performance pc that has 60 to 70 percent of ram because it has useful instructions that help it run faster, that is as long as if it had 8 to 12 gigabytes of ram. Although, I do believe that virus protection will eat away at the performance of the cpu because it would be constantly checking for maliscious activity for each click you make. But that would be on the cpu side, not the ram if you have 8 to 12 gigs of ram. Although, while dos may just be a text based software, it was released long before a computer was considered a multi-use media processing machine. The computer was originally made strictly more as a office desk tool back then, made to write documents and do faculties then as that was what many people really did back then besides watching television, instead of playing online games and facebook and listening to music and videos. As for games on old 8 bit computers, I think those were played with by kids who grew in wealthier conditions due to prices soo high. But I think that's as close to music and media as I can think for 80's pc's.

@@ROGER2095 Pre-built computers are not the pinnacle of performance they used to be in the 80s and 90s. They're meant to be cheap and budget friendly. Your modern computer is running low end hardware. Unlike your DOS PC which probably has relatively high end hardware.

i know right

Unless they start manufacturing tapes besides Type I again and licensing the Dolby Noise Reduction technology, audio cassettes are already pretty much a dead format. Which is a shame because it's not that much worse than vinyl.

Tetsuron vinyl can have multi tracks and it will be random what they play kinda awesome Beatles gave a free track in one tape.as.a surprise.

@@Takeshi357 You clearly haven't heard of Dungeon Synth, right ? It's a genre which almost exclusively releases their albums on tape. Actually CDs are more of a rare thing in the genre compared to tapes.

So nah the Cassette tape is very much alive in the Underground.

+HMan Gaming u skipped cd roms then?

So did I, I never liked write once only and fragile as FUCK. 1.44 x 500 floppies were better than CD because they wouldn't die if you accidentally looked at them wrong

HMan Gaming Floppies were inserted WITH PURPOSE.

Yeah got first USB drive in 2001 which was 32mb - I hammer throw my stack of floppy disks.

Probably 8 inch ones at that.

We're doomed

solidstate0 Former Air Force. Yup, 8 inch.

manictiger Grrr I'm offended.

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Gone are the days you could fit a slimmed down computer OS on a single floppy.

how about recordable VHS tapes? are they still around or are the gone?

They're still widely available in stores here and widely used! There's nothing like it!

thomase13 that's great to hear! what stores? can't find them at walmart

There's a drug store near my house that has them I'm pretty sure. Also Dollarama around here commonly has VHS cassettes, blank, and with older films on them. If you're desperate, you can find anything on the Web; eBay and Amazon have them! Good luck! :)

If you live in america, goodwill

Haha 😂

Props to you for not taking credit for the joke!

Haha

XD

" Dont copy that floppy "

Jeff Jones One floppy... two floppies... magic. ✨💾💾✨

Thats the least useless use of floppy disx

Hahaha good one 🍌😄👉

He protec He attac but most importantly he save disk from copy attac

💾 ->📺-> 💾 I copied that floppy

Vinny Sharma like his attitude, realisitc about it.

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Vinny Sharma There us no Forever.

Blue Marshall: You may have a point there bud, I read a Buddhist zen quote that said something similar, it went something like: "There is no such thing as eternity because we're already living in it" Now, I must say, it's quite a job to impress or stun me and this quote got my attention.

Vinny Sharma perfect enjoy it while you can

You can try get windows 0.1.0.11

Kalvinjj same. I have two CNC machines that can take a 3.5" floppy. Also worked at a place several years ago where the CMM machine ran Windows 3.1 and had a floppy drive

Called floppy disk.

+Анхаа 0909 Called giant save button.

Whatever

@@bg357wg giant copy button

Youngen, you ain't seen anything yet. There were bigger ones, and they actually were floppy. You can wave them around, and they flop.

Yeah, I remember using a floppy disk for my 5th grade final project. One day at school I put it into the computer and tried to open my files but got the "disk read" error. The teacher didn't know what to do so she called Julio, the school's building manager. He was like a legend, he could fix anything. It was just him and a few helpers were in charge of cleaning the floors, changing light bulbs, trash cans, etc. So 10 minutes later he came in, held my floppy disk up to the light, opened the metal shutter. Took a pencil and spun it around. Blew on it, put it back in a few times. We all thought he was going to fix it. But it still didn't work. So he said, "I'm sorry kid, I tried but that's all I can do." So I had to start over my project! At least I had a rough draft on paper!

That's not a bad idea to still have PCs in the school with floppy drives. Because in case all other data fail, you can still backup on floppy, right?

@@jeromeglick what? wym "all other data fail"? if you mean to say floppies are reliable - they aren't, the data gets corrupted very easily on them, all it takes is a magnet or even placing it on a TV for too long.

All the free storage! Gosh, imagine how much you could back up on 10 floppies! Crazy, right?

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There's also DVD-RAM, it's an optical disc you can write to almost like a floppy disk or hard drive. But CDRWs are much easier to come across and less expensive.

@@ThexthSurvivor yeah. And less likely to corrupt. I corrupted mine, but I was able to extract the files before formatting it and putting all the files back on it. It hasn't corrupted since.

They are?

How it can be used since most mp3 songs are very larger than 1.44mb disc?!

Unless you have an old mpc 2000 i dont see much use for a floppy lol

hell yeah, and old scsi drives for samplers and all sorts.

new gear is expensive, so you end up buying older stuff that still works to rack instead. a lot of this gear uses floppies and stuff

That was late, think they was pretty much out of use by then outside of boot discs and driver install of stuff like raid arrays during OS install. In industry they are in use simply as you use lots of old computers controlling machines.

I would like to see floppy disks as another option to use.

jesikebiking Which Sony Mavica's do you have?

It's like when I walk in to the CVS and they don't sell videotapes? How am I going to record Alex Trebek's last episode of Jeopardy? Or the Barbara Walters special? Or Oprah's bombshell interview with Harry and Megan:?

Much more reusable than flash memory too, you can degauss them and reformat them and not have any risk of files remaining on them.

The old ones from the 70s-early 90s are much more reliable as they were made with higher standards. Floppies after that period were made as cheap as possible and are very unreliable.

flash drive manufacturers!

kids

Don't throw them away! Contact the guy in this video, he will probably buy them from you.

Why? Those things emit a ton of radiation and use a lot more electricity. I can literally feel a CRT monitor or TV powered on about two rooms away from me. I've never liked that feeling.

Thus I use NVCleanInstall.

Ditto trackballs and laptops that have magnesium frames with solid/thick casings. I like solid 'clunk' sounds and buttons that have a solid 'click' . Can't explain why... I just do. The great thing is that I'm never playing catch-up. I buy once and forget; or until it wears out and I need to buy another. Long live the floppy!

Well more or less, the 1.44MB is the space that's free when using FAT16 due to the file allocation table, a raw disk has slightly more space. There are also different sizes of Floppy disks out there, the older DD diskettes were only 720K but there were also ED 2.88MB Disks which were less common, then there were the rare 120MB SuperDisks. Though the HD ones were the most common, those are the 1.44MB everyone was familiar with when formatted as IBM format (FAT16).

There are 720KB 3.5" floppy disks.

Moral of the story... real life is not conducive to the fast pace of technological change.

I still use a flash drive I got for free in college ~12 years ago. It's like 5mb but I use it for transferring jpegs and dxf files to my fiber laser engraver

@@tylercrawford4534 In my experience the problem with flash drives is wear and tear, I guess because I use them so much. The one I got in college didn't even last me through college because at some point in my 4th year, the computer couldn't read-write to it unless I put pressure on it in a certain direction while it was plugged in. Then another USB drive got destroyed when a large industrial trash can on wheels bumped into the computer it was plugged into and it snapped off. My latest drive that I got 4 yrs ago now has read-write errors. Sigh...

The a drive is the floppy disk... So there must be something wrongly connected or the floppy drive is dead.

Get a floppy disk drive (you can buy one that connects to your computer via USB cable) then copy the contents of the disks to your computer, a different folder for each disk. If you use a Windows computer now, and the floppies were formatted for Windows/DOS (or "IBM-compatible"), it should work. But if you used a Mac back then and Windows now or vice-versa, it may not work. There are other methods, though.

+alex kot You wouldn't download a car.

+Bladsmith FUCK YOU I WOULD IF I COULD (jk)

+. Bladsmith

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Floppydisk.com

The single floopy i had, well... I made a guinea pig door out of it

Rick Beare be careful for what you ask for ;]

Rick Beare Magneto-optical disks were way-y-y cooler. How else does one take down the monolithic techno-conspiracy... in style. Kerchunk... ambiguous lines of computer code... boom... score for the good guys!

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Lol

ohh u nub, shouldve typed "help"