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Shannon’s face when Skip said he had Shaq at 3rd 😭

Once I saw Shannon’s top ten on the screen I just start spamming the fast forward button to see where skip was gonna have lebron on his list 😂😂😂 I mean I knew it was gonna be low but 9???? He must be trolling us at this point 😂😂😂😂

Shaq last to 3peat, his average in the NBA finals during the 3peat: 38.0, 33.0 and then his third 36.3. Shaq in his day absolutely unstoppable, commands a doubleteam every posession, and a lot of opposite defenders are in foul trouble. Shaq killed Tim Duncan on multiple occasions, and Duncan is a top6 player in my books. Curry is top ten player, but Shaq is not the guy you bump out.

anytime skip talks about steph they should just cut his mic

I think Steph staying on the same team his whole career is under appreciated

Shaq at 3? LeBron at 9?….Skips list makes me have a near heart attack every time he reads it.

Unc too funny “Now run tell that, you see that list, look list right there” 😂.. He makes tha show better frfr, whether it’s a serious segment/topic or a comical one, Unc always got that edge.

Shannon’s list most resembles mine and makes most sense to me. Skip with having LeBron in 9th is OUTRAGEOUS! This man is on his way to having the most points ever in NBA history and he’s got him 9 and Shaq 3rd? Skip, stop this!

Bruh Shannon’s face at 3:26 killed me 😂😂😂

Shaq’s longevity is underrated, he averaged 20+ for 14 straight years and was an all star caliber player for a few more

Curry is amongst top 10 who changed nba rules and style Along with wilt and the goaltending Shaq and the 3second rules Jordan and bad(boy) flagrant fouls Lebron and the zone defense Now chef curry pull up from halfcourt with the small ball era so the nba gonna need a 4points line and count fullcourt shots for 5points Final score 230 - 88

I agree with both of them. Shaq is fosho higher than 10 just not quite 3 and like Shannon said, Lebron is 3 at worst. Its always interesting to see where people put Wilt and Russell. Plus personally, if Curry wins another championship he goes from 11 to 7 on my list. If he wins two more it really starts to get interesting. And I think he’ll play another 6-8 years and the Warriors have a smart front office, definitely possible.

I love Shaq but putting him top 3 greatest of all time is absolutely crazy Edit: Being the best in your prime or having a unstoppable dominance in your prime doesn't make you great. It's like Skip when he tries make his case for Baker with that 11 game stretch, QBR 91 scale 0-100, 4th highest rated QB spiel. You have to take TOTAL BODY OF WORK not just their greatest hits/career highlights hence why Shaq can never be a top 3 greatest all time. He's not even a top 3 center all time (Kareem, Wilt, Bill)

The thing about these lists is that everyone has different metrics. One of the biggest bring individual success vs Team Success. How great were you vs how often did you win. Wilt and Russell capture that to the extreme.

This one of them segments we’ll be seeing in our recommendations for years to come

3:13 skips usage of “all-time” along with Shannon’s face is all-time comedy

So Skip lists off Shaq accolades to make a point of why he's all time over Steph but what would he say if you did the same thing with LeBron? Having him 9th with all he's accomplished, accolades, and records with Shaq as your 3rd all time is the most blatant form of hating and contradiction I've seen.

Instead of attacking who is and isn't top 10, we need to increase the value and emphasize the importance of the top 15 or 20, the difference between 4-15 is often where the debate lies because the passage of time will add more and more great players of comparable success and talent. Everyone top 10 order is different but 90% of everyone's top 15 have the same players which is actually where the value lies.

Looking back I find it kinda ironic how the best 1-2 combo are really maybe the only 2 you have to choose from to take out of the top 10.

One of the greatest segments ever😭😭

Skip is just a funny dude. You can’t help but to laugh when you hear him talk.

I disagree a lot with both of their lists. As for Shannon, I didn’t rl hear an argument as to why he had Steph over shaq, he jus said shaq underachieved. And skip having Bron at 9…

Can we keep it real here? As a Lakers fan during the Kobe-Shaq run, and as someone who had to sit through the loss in 2004, I am 100% with Shannon about Shaq. Was Shaq all-time TALENTED? Of course! We haven't seen anybody like him since Wilt, and they dominated in different ways. But let's not forget, Shaq was a massive liability at the free throw line. They even named a strategy after him, "hack-a-Shaq". You COULD NOT HAVE HIM ON THE FLOOR IN THE 4TH QUARTER OF CLOSE GAMES IF YOU WANTED TO WIN. Come on, do we say that about Curry? We can argue defense all day but it's clear (to me at least) that Steph has become a credible enough defender so that teams can't blatantly exploit him on that end of the floor like they exploited Shaq's weakness. Steph is still a bad individual defender but you have to worry about him in the passing lanes and he picks people's pocket on a regular basis (highest steals average per game in the 2022 Finals). On top of that, Shannon's absolutely right. Shaq's ability fell off a cliff after he left the Lakers. Shaq did NOT have Kobe's work ethic and was famously quoted saying stupid (for a pro athlete) things like "I got hurt on company time, I'll get better on company time." OK, maybe if you want to be mediocre this makes sense, but if you want to be AMONG THE BEST IN THE WORLD this isn't quite a killer mentality. And yeah, we can argue they should have given the regular season MVP to Shaq instead of Steve Nash, but we also argue that Steph should have gotten the Finals MVP the year Iggy won it. Overall, I think Steph has had a bigger impact on the game, was the first unanimous regular season MVP, and has shown he can win without a top tier superstar next to him. Shaq never won anything without Kobe or D Wade, both all-time great shooting guards. And Steph did this not ONCE, but TWICE without KD. So let's not pretend it's all about Shaq being bad or anything like that. No, Shaq is an all-time great player. But like Shannon said, it gets ticky-tacky as time goes on for a top 10 because there are always going to be new great players in the game, and therefore it gets more and more crowded on these all-time lists when it comes to making a case for different players. But I think Curry over Shaq isn't that hard. Yes, they couldn't stop Shaq in his era, but can anybody stop Curry in this one? In Game 6 of the Finals, wasn't Steph stepping on the logo draining 3's to close out the series? To my eyes, the only one that stops Steph on any given night is Steph (because he's cold shooting). And oh right, to stop Shaq all we have to do is foul him.

Every all-time great has always had other great players with them. To win rings you have to have some serious talent on the roster. Jordan had Rodman/Pippen, Lebron had Wade/Kyrie/Davis, Shaq had Kobe, Kobe had Shaq/Gasol, Curry had Klay/Green/KD. Everyone has talent with them, but the only difference now is that players have way more of a say in team building. The problem is the ever-shifting criteria. If its rings, its Russell not Jordan.

Skip casually says Steph “underperformed in games 3, 4, 5, 6” when he played a 47 8 7 gem of a game 3 and a great game 5 where he forced a game 6

Kobe at 9 is crazy, no bias

All time greats for both lists and at the end of the day two of the GREATEST at the desk that are truly UNDISPUTED, big love skip and Shannon 👑

Give Kobe some damn respect

there’s a lot of bias on who they’d have in there top 10, but shannon gave a clear and real explanation as to why his list is the way it is, i respect his decisions in putting players in the spots he did even if i don’t 100% agree with them

My Picks.. 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul Jabbar 4. Wilt Chamberlain 5. Bill Russell 6. Magic Johnson 7. Larry Bird 8. Kobe Bryant 9. Tim Duncan 10. Hakeem Olajuwon 11. Shaquille O’Neal 12. Stephen Curry

Really hard for me to compare Steph to Hakeem/Shaq, just totally different positions and players

skips kobe placement is the most reasonable, but honestly to me kobe is right behind MJ. Kobe beat the most 50win teams for his 2 rings, did it without shaq, second place in all nba defensive first teams.

To be fair Shannon does make good points I mean the closest player we have to shaq today is Giannis and he already is showing he has the drive and work ethic to keep improving his game so just imagine what shaq woulda been if he had that same drive and will to be the best I think by the time Giannis ends his career he will be looked at as the most dominant player to grace the game cuz by then he should have a more then decent 3 pt shot a good mid range game to go along with his just absolutely monster game in the paint🤷🏽‍♂️

Shannon: "You a hater." Lmaoooo the way he just stops trying to reason with Skip has me rolling.

Skip must be paid to troll, he is outrageous

I like Shannon's list more, I can't put Shaq in the top 5 ever, he was insanely dominant for a few years, but the league created a meme strategy that took him out of the game late in games, hack a Shaq. Plus I struggle to put him ahead of the all time leader in blocks that Shaq himself even said was the greatest center of all time

This is one of the only sports talk shows I still watch. Love these two.

“Steph didn’t destroy anybody in the playoffs”. Really Skip? James Harden, KD, Russ, and Dame still have nightmares about GS in the playoffs. The man is 6-0 in the WCF.

BLESSINGS

Shaq was dominant player for 10 years, from 1993 to 2003 he was a superstar

I'd say Hakeem is top 10. His back to back chips with a lackluster supporting cast is too underrated

Shaq is the greatest football player/tank the NBA has ever seen. Basketball player to me means elite skills in passing, shooting, dribbling, movement without the ball, court vision, leadership to make others better and determination to get the W. Steph took his pound for pound greatness and surpassed the heavyweights. Did what Iverson couldn't and won 4 rings while changing the game. Steph belongs in the top 10. Some may need time and distance to see his greatness, but we are witnessing it first hand and close up. Period.

I miss this show so much

The arguments Shannon is saying for Kareem and Wilt over Shaq is the same for Jordan over Lebronm more MVPs, Finals MVPs, scoring titles, steals titles, memorable moments, etc. Lebron only has MJ in longevity stats like Mailman.

Skip got the most bs top 10 list I ever saw he's talking about Steph not over Shaq due to achievements but this man got Lebron at 9 🤦🏾‍♂️

18:46 "But ol goat, there's somethin' about ol goat" 😆

Great video, have a wonderful day everyone.✌

3:26 Shannon's face 😭😭

I get all the championships Russel has but if we’re talking about actual player skills I wouldn’t put him in the top 10. He has the hardware and I know he was more defensive than offensive but his stats just don’t hold up to everyone else. He played with a lot of HOF players in a league that was a lot weaker overall.

My top 10 is 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Tim Duncan 4. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 5. Magic Johnson 6. Steph Curry 7. Larry Bird 8. Kobe Bryant 9. Shaquille O'Neal 10. Hakeem Olajuwon Bill Russell & Wilt Chamberlain don't get on my list cause they played when it was 8 teams and the Celtics where winning titles and still getting the top picks

When Shannon is talking about Kobe only having one MVP everybody knows that he got robbed for about two other ones because of what happened in colorado! Let's be clear one of Steve Nash's MVPs belongs to Kobe and one of Steve Nash's MVP's belongs to Shaq

Really interesting take on Shaq by Shannon. But it's funny how Steph not only changed the game, he's changing the requirements to be in the Top 10.

I think the hugest difference between Skip's and Shannon's list is that Skip is largely basing his list off of those intangibles (i.e. clutchness or dominance) vs. Shannon is a bit of both, leaning towards stats (i.e. number of MVPS, longevity accolades). Both got their points and everyone's top 10 is going to be different. Shannon's right, at some point you gotta be nitpicking to make this list.

Steph being in the top 10 is a matter of opinion. Top 12-15 definitely.

Remember, during the Lakers 3-peat Kobe was the Pippen, the TOny Parker. It was Shaq's team...

Shaq stats 92- 23.4pts 13.9 rbs 93- 29.3pts 13.2 rbs 94- 29.3pts 11.4 rbs 95- 26.6pts 11.0 rbs 96- 26.2pts 12.5 rbs 97- 28.3pts 11.4 rbs Those are his 1st 6yrs Shaq came into the league top 5

Lebron at #9 is incomprehensible. There's no way he's anything but top 2-3.

Did the audio seem off to the video to anyone?

Imo I think with in the next 20 years, I think this will be the top 8 nba players of all time (no order) and I’m basing it off of impact to the nba, and rings and championships and personal accolades throughout their career. (No order) 1. MJ 2.Kobe 3. Lebron 4. Kareem 5.steph 6. Magic 7. Bill Russell 8. Wilt

I like the respect for bird one of my favorite players of all time

Kobe deserved more than just one MVP.

AND HES NOT DONE!!!!

Sheesh! Wilt's 55 REBOUNDS are more impressive than that 100 point game. I never knew that one.

My top 10 1 MJ 2 Lebron 3 Kareem 4 Wilt 5 Magic 6 Kobe 7 Curry 8 Russell 9 Duncan 10 Bird

We're in that dreaded time of year when the first block of the show for the next two months are going to be some version of Jordan versus Lebron. Where we hear the same stories and arguments over who is better.

Bro these lists be killing me with Kobe anything above 3 , did y’all forget that soon?

Steph is 34, not 32 - that's a big difference in terms of what he might accomplish in the future.

Who wants to bet in this segment skip will say "It's unlike anything I've seen before"

Let's get top 25 from now on. Its too many great players.

Steph curry Greatest scorer ever Changed the entirrr game to his will 5 finals 5 years that’s crazy Unanimous only one ever 4 titles 3 mvps And he must be credited for the gsw way he is the leader the star the prince of that team

Shannon’s face when skip said shaq is third is priceless

1. MJ 2. Kareem 3. LeBron 4. Kobe 5. Duncan 6. Magic 7. Shaq 8. Wilt 9. Bill Russell 10. Curry

Steph knocking Shaq out the top 10 is ridiculous. 3 FMVPS and 4 Rings, most dominant big man ever.

I believe the NBA is trending back towards the big men again. The 4,5, and Swingman. The three point is not a high percentage shot but that’s what makes Curry so great and we probably won’t see another player like him in our generation that can make it at a high clip. But with that being said I see the NBA trending towards back to the the big men, especially the 5. More rebounds and then add that to the assists and points plus defensive stats. That just equals a high player efficiency rating. It’s a reason “The Joker” keeps winning MVP.

UNC list tough though 😭 I be thinking of every great player folks.. It's tough , but I do All Time Starting 5

Skip face when he said he bumped Shaq out 😂

MY TOP 10 1:Mj (class of his own) 2-5:Kareem, Kobe, Bron, Magic (all interchangeable) 6-12: Hakeem, Bird, Duncan, Shaq, Curry, Wilt, Russell (all interchangeable)

This is what Draymond says about skip and old media. He doesn’t mention the 4 games steph dominated but the two he didnt

Top 10 lists are always fun 😀😇My list is 1)MJ 2)Bron 3)Bird 4)Magic 5)Kareem 6)Shaq 7)Duncan 8)Russell 9)Kobe, 10)Wilt (I Have Steph currently at 12 )

0:33 Skip's flabber was gasted lmaoo

I get why Shannon puts Lebron at #1. That's his guy, but bumping Shaq out of the top 10 is blasphemous

I'm glad Shannon will call him a hater

Kobe, MJ, Kareem, Majic, Wilt, Bird, Bron, Shaq, Russel, Wardell

Going off of shannon's logic, jordan should be 1. He has more awards

Wilt Chamberlain is the greatest force ever.. rebounding 👑 scoring 👑 blocking 👑 greatest athlete ever.. strongest player ever.. he will always be top 5 !!!

Same Shannon that had Oscar Robertson over Kobe now bumping Shaq out of the top 10?? Lmaooooooo

The ideal all time top 10 is this: 1-MJ 2-Kareem 3-Bill russell 4-Kobe Bryant 5-Lebron James 6-Wilt chamberlain 7-Shaq 8-Larry Bird 9-Magic Johnson 10-Hakeem Thats my opinion and ideal selection paying respect to all those guys.

And here's what I'm thinking: what's skip gonna say if Steph gets number 5? If Steph has 5, with the MVPs, the scoring titles, all that, I mean, there's gonna be talks that he'll surpass Magic. Then what? Also, you watch Steph Curry live, and let me tell you, Steph hits threes that make you feel just as helpless as shaq's physicality. I saw a game in Oracle against the sixers where Steph had 45, and deadass, he would hit a three over a double team, and both the guys guarding him would turn to their coach FURIOUS. Like, "what are we supposed to do with this? How could we possibly stop THAT?" I mean, c'mon, this is ridiculous. Steph literally just destroyed the Celtics! And he destroyed the Mavericks before that! I mean, heck, he swept the blazers in 2019 WITHOUT Kevin Durant!

Shannon got Shaq to low and Skip got him to high smh... I got him in like 7-8

Here because earlier skip said he had Kd top 10 all time when he went to golden state

Lmao geez. Shaq at 11 would make sense for Shannon. I want to see this take today after lebron's scoring title and everything else that has happened

2 small mistakes by Shannon- Steph is 34, not 32 and Curry is II not Jr

This is the funniest sports duo on tv!🤣🤣

I love you UNC but I got to agree with “LET ME FINISH!!” here 😂 Shaq has to be on that top 10 list. I’m sorry I’m not putting Bird ahead of Shaq. So if one got to go for me it would be Larry legend

He is not done yet he finna have 7 when it's all said and done 💯🙌🤟🌏 SC 30💯

How the non player media always puts Kobe Bryant outside the top 5 is beyond me. Most who played the game give him proper respect, especially those who played against him.

1.Jordan. 2.Lebron. 3.Kareem. 4.Magic. 5.Duncan. 6.Kobe. 7.Wilt 8.Curry 9.Shaq 10.Bird

I actually think Shannons and Skips lists are both pretty good and both made good points

2:09, Curry won it at 34 not 32 but that just strengthens his point