Thank you!

Bro, my Assassin slaughters everything including ubers before your merc can even hit!

​@@MrMichaelEsser...so what? What this have to do with the subject?

@@MrMichaelEsser nobody gives a sht

I want my Paladin to use an infinity as his main weapon lolol. I’ll have to use a mancatcher :D thanks for the breakdown!

Well said. Masculinity and manliness have NOTHING to do with toxic masculinity. Toxic masculinity is exactly opposite of real men, and doesnt exist in Phil. Hes a total stud and prob doesnt even know it. My sister has a total crush on him. Maybe ill call her out in the comments 😂

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These and he is also bold!

Just tell us you're gay for him, bro! It's cool!

That's a bald statement and I'm all for it.

Same here, if i remember well, Stygian Pikes have the exact same speed and damage as Great Poleaxes. So im not sure why Phil didn't include them as a good base to make infinity in since he did include Great Poleaxes.

Using Stygian Pike for Infinity over a Colossus Voulge allows you to forego socketing your Andariel's Visage with an IAS jewel in order to hit the 6-frame Jab breakpoint, at the cost of raw base damage. The Stygian Pike only requires +20% IAS whereas the CV requires +35% IAS for a 6-frame Jab, meaning the helmet's innate +20% IAS alone is enough, and you can socket a Ral or something more useful into it, rather than the IAS jewel.... however, the only rationale (in my humble opinion) for using a base other than Mancatcher is if your goal is to have the highest possible raw damage number, to help your merc one-shot monsters with small health pools, in which case you'd choose the Colossus Voulge, but for every Unique monster or boss you should try to proc Crushing Blow as frequently as possible, in which case you should choose neither the Stygian Pike nor the Colossus Voulge- for that you'd choose the Mancatcher. The Mancatcher actually has a 6-frame Jab at baseline, and reaches a 5-frame Jab at +26% IAS. You can reach a 4.5-frame Jab (fastest possible with Infinity) by using Treachery for the chest piece. So in the best case scenario, Mancatcher can net you between 20-33% more Crushing Blow (at 5-frames and 4.5-frames respectively), and when your Merc is cursed with Decrepify or slowed by cold, that percentage is even higher. So yeah Stygian Pike and CV are only 1 or 1.5 frames slower than the Mancatcher, but when you're talking about a 6 frame attack versus a 4.5 frame attack, that's a 33% increase in DPS. Frames don't correlate linearly to DPS. Each frame lower gives you multiplicatively more DPS. The difference between a 2-frame attack and a 1-frame attack is +100% DPS. The difference between a 3-frame attack and a 2-frame attack is +50% DPS, 4/3 is +33%, 5/4 is +25%, 6/5 is +20%, and so the trend goes on.

@@SawyerSGN thanks for the clarification! next one is planned in mancatcher anyway :)

Does the CB damage leech? I was under the impression that CB is a direct modification to target life, and isn't even counted as "damage", although it will take positive physical resists into the equation.

@@asbjrnfossmo1589 CB is calculated before dmg is applied. So I am under the impression, that CB happens, then you would deal normal dmg, thus being able leech still on a CB hit.

@@smalps-gaming Yes, but the CB part shouldn't leech. Just the damage part, which for pure leech purpose would suggest to get the highest DPS, not the fastest CB application.

@@asbjrnfossmo1589 yes. But I think the point is you are not going to drop Infinity. Insight no problem.

congrats! funnily enough, a 4-os Scythe is also the best base for a self-wielding Infinity Sorceress due it having the lowest possible requirements!

Scythes are kind of weak, you want a Thresher for insight

If he really must use it then Griswold armor is good for the 60s to 80s.

If it is ethereal then it only requires 200 str.

I always like having a few extra to hand out. A lot of people play aren't as intense. Having a noneth scythe with insight that you can give your buddy at lvl 27 is amazing. You can hear the "wow I couldn't believe this would affect me that much" once they run shit solo.

Insight is 27 minimum requirement, that puts you in exceptional bases already. Elite bases start in the 40's, but the str is where you run into issue.

Who the hell plays pvm "competitively"?

@@PAwader who the hell doesn't?? what's the point of ladder play if you're not competing for the first 99 of the season???

Same but i currently have a eth colossus voluge just sitting around.

He mentioned it like 5 times

Have you tried clay golem + decrepify with bosses? It's a more effective "stunlock" than the merc. Also in my experience the fastest way to kill bosses with a summoner is by reviving monsters with crushing blow, way more effective than relying on the merc. It's a little annoying to go get them, but they'll kill Baal/Diablo before they can wipe your minions. It's the only way I know of for a necro to do ubers.

Your first mistake is you're playing summon Necro

@josephs2937 lol, yeah. But to be fair, if you've been playing this since you were a kid, chances are you've played most builds by this point. And the ones you haven't dictate your ladder picks(at least for myself and many bnet players). Can't judge a man by what he's currently rolling.

Pretty sure an Eth Tomb Reaver is the best for getting that first kill, or Eth Reaper's Toll if you don't want to cast Decrep. Infinity only helps half the damage from CE (the fire part, not the physical) so I don't think it's really necessary for a Summon Necro.

Do you play nl?

Not if you're trying to proc Crushing Blow as often as possible. The king of CB is the Mancatcher by about 20-33% depending on whether you're hitting a 5-frame or a 4.5-frame Jab. CA and CV are only at a 6-frame Jab at +35% IAS. CA and CV should be chosen if you want a Merc that is more capable of killing smaller, non-boss monsters, but if your merc is doing that for you then you're not built properly for grinding.

@@SawyerSGN I said overall, i agree that the mancatcher procs CB faster, but with the cryptic axe my merc slays everything faster still, i cant think of a better use for mancatcher than maybe baal?

I was in your shoes a few months ago, so I grinded the Cows for a few hours every day on Players 5 with my Nova Sorc, and got really lucky with 2 Ber within 12 days of each other. I really recommend the cows!!!

I would advise not to make it in the CV. The strength req is too high and lowers trade value

You should be able to find a 4 OS eth Mancatcher far faster than a high rune. If you find them unsocketed, roll it for sockets in the cube. I would definitely recommend an eth Mancatcher over anything else, if you're putting it on an Act 2 Merc!

I agree! I like using gface for more CB and have no life leach on merc with summon necro... since skellys usually grab agro and merc really aint taking dmg

In the case of the Summon Necro, it's probably better to go with an Eth Reaper's Toll, or an Eth Tomb Reaver, rather than either Insight or Infinity. Neither runeword is really necessary for that build, unless you lack mana per kill, or need the Insight to sustain teleporting with Enigma. It may still be smarter to summon an Iron Golem out of an Insight, and let your Merc carry a bigger boomstick.

@@SawyerSGN I know. What I was saying was meant damage in general and not the damage of an Insight/Infinity.

*Emilio

I like Scythe for style. I don't like how the characters hold the trident. This is just aesthetics though.

The steez on the scythe is just too high. I really wish enchant didn't take so many points to unlock though, red scythe is just 🔥

@@seanyewest _antonio_banderas_gif_ you know the one!

I just looked at it again, and I'm like 90% sure it's actually worth going enchant, both for style points and for merc hit rating. Are you actually going to notice 36% less mana regen when you already have like 800+

If you are at this level of optimization and wealthy enough for infinity you certainly already have torch and anni which means you dont have to invest a single point in dex for either of those bases anyway. Same for str. So basically it doesn't matter

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The solution is simple you just need a bigger mana pool. If you have 1k mana rather than 500 mana your regen per second is doubled too. Its why mana shield high mana sorc are so tough

Treachery and Andy's pretty much works for me. I have an infinity in an eth Cryptic Axe for my sorceress. The conviction aura makes my sorc so strong it doesn't even really matter. I'm using a fire/blizz hybrid and it works pretty nicely

I have the same question, Nova sorc losses durability using a delf a eth mancatcher?

@@leohelpuall no unless you autoattack

Facts

Have you tried to roll soccets with the cube?

@@chrisvids1820 Since found lots. Stopped playing 2 months ago (it wrecked the middle finger of my right hand).

You can literally find it a day in cowruns..

@@rasmuskjaerpoulsen It took me a long time to get my first one, since found about 6 but i had found the runes for infinity long before i got my first one! So infinity went into a CV.

seems no one pays attention to range any longer is it changed like speed?

@@scottmccomas1514 Weapon range doesn't matter for mercenaries. Their range is their range is their range.

what makes it better than a tresher? trading max dmg for low dmg?

Weapon range doesn’t work on mercs

@@mikeblenheim117 Amazing, this game is full of hiden "mechanics" xD

Yes, the lower the number is, faster in game

What character are you playing that is self-using Infinity and swinging it?

Lol no. If you're putting it on a character you would be making it in a non elite base.

@@Vagitarian01 it wouldnt be good on a charged strike Amazon?

@@maximos905 If you're putting it on a zon, you're using a Matriarchal Spear base, not a standard spear, otherwise you're leaving +3 jav/spear skills on the floor. In which case your merc will never be able to wear it.

If you're self-wielding Infinity on a caster, then you're better off making it in a Scythe or Trident. Something with the lowest possible STR and DEX requirements that you can reach with gear alone (sourced your amulet, torch, anni, and charms). If you try to self-wield a Mancatcher or CV, you will lose hundreds of Stat points, which will significantly harm your Vitality or Energy. SoJs, BK rings, Frostburns, Enigma... anything that increases your Life/Vita, Mana/Energy all will be multiplied by Battle Orders, and in the end you'll be losing more than a thousand points in Life or Mana.

Andariel's visage (Can grab a non eth for relatively cheap) gives 20 str so its not a "dumb level" at all

Yeah but it is popular because they can use the Larzuk quest to guarantee 4 sockets

​@@wolizukaI still don't like CV given the strength requirement which will restrict helm and body armor options, unless you are super urgent with no better choices

Could be used at level 85 if eth and you socket a Tal’s mask with a +10 to strength Pgem. When your character levels up a bit just remove the gem and put in an IAS jewel or Ral or whatever will benefit your merc

@@mikeyflaherty4616 that would be wasting a perfect gem tho?

Oh.. it always pays to get an ethereal exceptional base for a low level insight to level with...