Thanks for a new video! Congrats on the new machine 👍 I like that extra width of the FF12 for working in the woods for more stability. The counter weight of the H12 is really nice. Filter and the bigger hydraulic tank is nice for the FF. I was on the fence about buying the QH12 or the Rippa 1Ton. But overnight all the QH12 on EBay jumped up about $300 so that finally made my decision to buy the Rippa, for only about $400 more, it’s got a hydraulic thumb with 3way valves on the boom, hydraulic lines run in the boom, a fan in the engine bay with the tread on hydraulic filter. Hope it’s a good little machine. Thanks again and once get time in on the mini I plan on making a review, I will give your channel a big shout out. You are definitely making the best videos I have found on these machines! Thank you! 👍

I'm not even in the market for one of these but was curious when I saw your video advertised, so watched it. Very well done, very informative, pleasant demeanor. Heck, now I want one, though I'd have to find something that needed digging but I bet that would happen. Thank you much.

Thanks for your review. You rock . I love the fact you truly compare the different model. I bought an ht30 last summer and like it because heavier and wider. But I wish I would have been able to see review just like yours before I pulled the trigger because only few features I would had made sure I had chosen . Keep making videos. Your are truly knowledgeable and helping more people's you can think of.

I own a FF-12 and you are correct, it's a bitch to get the engine cover off. When I did finally got it off, I threw the bolts in my tool chest, purchased a 12" piano hinge and a couple of latches. Now I have easy access to the engine. I also installed a couple of BMX footpegs on the front roof cover supports about 2-3" up to place my feet for support. Also, the hydraulic knuckle for the bucket has the grease nipple on the outside, which I broke off the first time I used it! I unbolted the knuckle, spun the rod 180o putting the fitting on the inside protecting it from being knocked off again. I have a few more mods I want to do but will have to wait until the weather gets a little warmer. Keep up the videos..

Thanks for the deep dive into these. It is hard to get the real info on most China products. I would like to see a di e into the 15 models too.

The community around these machines is what ultimately convinced me to buy one. It's reassuring there's such an enthusiastic knowledge base out there. I'm also absolutely in for a filter kit. I'd even be down to preorder if that helps fund the R&D.

I own an FF12. OMG that rear cover! I took it off once, then quickly looked for and purchased some adjustable hardpoint clamps, installed them, and never put the old bolts back in. I can now remove the rear cover in under four seconds and it's perfectly secure. It took me an hour and a half to remove that cover the first time and I vowed that I'd never bolt that thing back on again.

I would definitely be interested in a filter and cooler kit! Keep these awesome videos coming!

Appreciate the comparison of these machines. I'm considering purchase of one in the near future. I've got a dealer maybe 20 miles from me who is selling the FF12 machines. After watching this video, I like what I see on the H12 unit better. The counter weight, and the reinforced blade seem like a better option to me over the other unit. I do like the thumb on the FF12 better though. Either unit would serve me as this will just be used around my home, but the H12 just seems the better choice to me.

Excellent comparison. I like the fact you went over many of the parts doing comparisons. I've managed to speak with people involved in the changes. The reason the ff12 moved the hydraulic tank down was to combat overheating. They still need a fan, but run much cooler than the h12. The valve body is higher flow. I machined some new spools for a friend and was shocked to find they didn't fit. I took one of the sections off his and the passages were noticeably smaller. A number of the ff12 units I've seen came with the larger 10 or 12cc pump and hydraulic filter. You can tell they were made slightly different because the argotek units rotated the power unit to fit a 2 stage pump. Some have a boxed blade like your h12 but it is wider and heavier gauge, but with the plate type supports. The undercarriage is also heavier gauge with a larger motor mounting plate. I've also seen some of the ff units with a cast lower similar to the h12 but compatible with the rest of their flimsy body panels. The reason for the frame on the ff12 was that they were trying to get rops certification, but I didn't get clarification on them achieving it.

Looking forward to the cooling kit and the hydraulic filtering kit. Great video.

i cant wait for the kit bro, tysm for doing all of this leg work. i get my h12 in a few days. i already got the same fans you have.

Glad I found this channel,great comparison and great content 👍

just posted a video on my new channel with my unit but I put a tree sheer on it. absolutely wild how well it handles all of the jobs I throw its way.

Had a peek at the last RB auction and noticed some changes to the FF-12/13 models with the 2014.1 date stamp on the data plate… they are coming with filters in them now and a few other machines I looked at had hydraulic coolers and filters in them but I don’t recall the brand name on those but I want to say they were possibly CH12’s…

Thanks for the in depth comparison I've been wanting to get one of these and you answered alot of the questions I had . Leaning towards the ff12. I wonder if the flow on the aux to say like an auger would be better with the larger line size or if the pump is the limiting factor. As I m wanting to put a auger on what ever I get.

I had an L12, and it came with a hydraulic cooler and fan. It also had a flip up cover for the engine compartment.

Hey Cam, thanks for the video. I bought an FF12 last summer and there is zero videos on KZfaq on that particular one. I have an entire summers worth of work done with mine and it’s been awesome. I’d like to get some different buckets for mine, however I’m curious if they’re interchangeable between all these machines. I’d also like a hydraulic thumb. Do you have any plans to mod yours or detail comparisons between buckets and thumbs?

I’d be interested in a cooler kit for the FF12. But I do have a hydraulic filter factory installed.

Fantastic video. I'm looking at a buying either a LandHero 12 or a LandHero LDH-KV16. Do you know if your hydraulic filter and cooler will fit either or both? Also interested in the drive motor protection kit. Fit?

I've got an H15 on the way, but definitely trying to figure out the alphabet soup has been intimidating. Also, this gives me an idea of what things I need to look for and how to work with it. There's no manuals online that I've been able to find, and don't know what will come with it, so I'm in the dark. Definitely had not thought about mods, but it's obvious that a hinged or latched rear cover is in the cards.

I have just got the L12 (AGT Industrial) and it seems to be an evolution of the H12. Main differences. The entire rear enging cover including the seat hinges up, great engine access. It also includes a hydraulic radiator with fan. Otherwise mostly the same.

thank you for a informative video.

Hey-really great video series. I’m very close to pulling the trigger on one of these, so your vids have been crazy valuable. I’ve narrowed down my choices to the QH12 or H12. Leaning toward the H12. Despite AGT saying they’re both the same, but just “look different”, they’re clearly quite different. Aside from the stuff you’ve pointed out so far, I’m finding some differences in the operational specs. So I’m wondering if you might do a comparison vid where you take measurements of the various functions, such as max boom height, max digging depth, etc. The specs I’ve found show some definite differences, but who knows how accurate the data is? Might also be good to dig into the actual specs of the B&S engine to see if it’s truly a 13.5hp unit.

This was an excellent video. You apologized for the camera work, but professional camera work would not have made a notable improvement. Thanks for the detailed comparison.

I have a QH12R and it looks identical to that ff im superised i found this video cause i was not expecting your comments on the h12 as my qh12r has everything the ff seems to have as an upgrade ..

Now I know why the one ex goes for 5 to 1000 more at auctions thanks for explaining I have a u35 Kubota which I absolutely love but was thinking of buying a 10 but $$ for about I would use these go for I have seen $3500 to 45 at auction not bad price for the 30 for kubota

Keep up the great videos i appreciate them thank you

The AGT QH12 has a Briggs & Stratton lawnmower engine that works the hydraulics and tracks. It is slow and bounces and vibrates and it is noisy. Depth is 5.4 feet but I recommend not to dig deeper than 2 1/2 to 3 feet for safety reasons. Parts are made in China. If taken care of and not abused and not left outdoors uncovered, it will last several years. You will need earplugs, hopefully you do not have back problems, this machine is not good if you have kidney problems. It takes nearly 2 hours to dig a 6 foot long and 2 1/2 foot deep trench. As mentioned it is not fast. It is not a child's toy and needs to be careful around objects because it is made of steel. Cost ranges from $6,000 to $8,000 New and Used is $4,000 to $5,000. If you paid more than $6,000 then you have been had.

You are right about the high cost of parts but, they're a lot cheaper than bigger or, name brand machine, components. A cooler for a Kubota would be 4x.

Good work! Your channel should grow fast.

My QH12 came with a spin-on hydraulic filter and you also overlooked the blade sets out further on the QH12 which increases the lift power when used as an outrigger opposed to the counter weight. The ff12 also doesn't operate the posthole auger well due to the low volume from the small lines.

Thanks for all you do Have you tested your cooler setup to show how well it works? I am still debating whether or not I need one.

I’ll take a kit for sure!

I bought a QH12 and the fan installation for the H12 is a NoGo for the QH12. The vents are different.

I have the ff12 and my log splitter cam with an extra filter setup that I'd like to use for the ff12. Do you happen to know what din adapters I would need for return hose to the filter in and out? Thanks and really great videos!

Great review, new here 👍

How much does the H12 weigh? Is the counter weight very heavy? I looked at the specs for the QH12 and it weighs 1,800 pounds. I figure the H12 is heavier.

Very nice video.

Great video, I noticed a hydraulic gauge and needle type flow valve. Did you have trouble finding the right size? I’ve got a valve coming and several adapters/ unions together to get it to fit.

Thank you, I was taking care to buy one, however it looks for work too many hours the temperature is really hot, did you test some tests related?

I’ve got one just like the yellow one and I have a whining in The pump or valve body when under load would you have an idea what it may be at appreciate it 7:39 PM

Thanks for the video, very informative. I am looking to buy an agt H15. Do you have any experience with that model? If so what are your thoughts?

whats funny is mine looks just like your ff12 however it says agt like your yellow one. they are all a little different but the same

The thick solid steel arms on the blade are a lot better than the box tubing arms!!!!! I have seen those box tubing arms break even on a cat machine!!!!!

I just bought the FF12, I was pleasantly surprised to see it has a hydraulic oil filter, and Eaton drive motors.

What is the exact model number of the Briggs and Stratton engine and the hydraulic pump, which I think…is Parker

I'm guessing all these machines are coming out of various "State" run factories, using the same state sourced parts... What would explain the assorted variants excluding those units brought over to the U.S.A. and upgraded domestically?

Great videos, but where do you get attachments for the AGT's? from their website it looks like the pins are at 90mm by 92mm wide not seeing any other attachments that size only groundhog attachments come close at 88.9mm x 88.9mm wide??

Great video. I have a 2023 ff12, and it has a hydraulic filter built into the system. I'm ready to see the cool kit. It costs what it costs.

Put me down for a filter and fan kit! QH 12 here.

There is 3 different body type a,b,c. The h12 is the b version. I had the ht10b it has the counter weight in back. AGT has one that has a hydraulic filter built in already. Dont remember the number it is.

When are your filter kits going to be available ?

Hey do u have to change the oil and hydraulic oil soon as u buy one just got mine

Also about temperature some models are coming with oil cooler or not?

I own an H12 and wanted to do prefilter and cooler where do I purchase it?

So am I understand correctly that ff12 and QH12 are the same ?

if you measured the machine at 37'' how can it fit through a 36'' gate ?

FF12 and QH12 are the same.

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Difference in a QH12 and a QH12R? There are to many models....

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