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The French musket has a huge advantage that every soldier would honor during field duty - easily removable barrel bands. Today we tend to just run a few cleaning patches through the barrel, but back then the standard military procedure was to dismount the barrel.

A paper cartridge would be cooler and faster, but it is still cool

The Ball ‘bouncing down the barrel” is a myth. If your ball is bouncing down the barrel, you are shooting a much too small ball.. Muskets aren’t less accurate because the ‘ball bounces down the barrel”, but because the ball has no rotation.

A British soldier was expected to load in fifteen seconds or less

When they started rifling them in the early 1800s, the Enfield (from England) was considered one of the finest rifles in the world. Both the Union and Confederacy bought and imported them prior to and during the early years of the war. It wasn't until Springfield got cranked up that it became the standard issue for Union troops.

I prefer the Italian Carcano

great job Misha&Patrick!

Shot both the Bess and Charleville and both are great, but I like how the Bess feels.

I learned an important trick to flintlocks-use black powder in the priming pan, FFF. Pyrodex grains are too large. The finer grained black powder in FFF will rapidly increase ignition time. You'll go from a 'click, swish, boom' to an instantaneous 'swish/boom'. English black flints are the best along with tempering the frizzen to achieve stronger sparks. A well-tuned flintlock is almost as fast as percussion.

i own one brown bess made by pedersoli and had the opportunity to talk a lot with the pedersoli's. they craft only quality rifles, pistols and muskets and the accuracy you can squeeze out from those guns is amazing, you can hit man torso sized targets up to 80 meters with the right load with those muskets... and with a lot of skill, of curse.

In stubborn retreat or in stately advance, From the Portugal coast to the cork-woods of Spain, She had puzzled some excellent Marshals of France Till none of them wanted to meet her again: But later, near Brussels, Napoleon - no less - Arranged for a Waterloo ball with Brown Bess.

It's not just about firepower; it's about understanding the ingenuity behind each musket and how they played a crucial role in shaping military history

Too bad I thought you guys were gonna use correct authentic Paper Cartridges for the musket.

Y’all should try the traditional military loading method used in battle

Muskets may be old but the *tsss- boom* they make when fired will never get old ❤

Great video guys. I'd like to see your 1 minute test with paper cartridges instead of powder cans.

Misha's sometimes looks like Roman, GTA IV

Charleville, please

the French musket had a cheek indent in the musket behind the sight so the soldier could better aim his weapon

I'm not an expert of weaponry (more a history addict) but I know a lot of guys around my friends circles who are doing reenactment of Napoleonic era and also periods a bit before, very popular in my country, and the majority of the time, these guys are telling me that French weapons of that era were the best in the world, that's one of the many (hundreds) complex reasons why the French Army kicked the ass of the rest of Europe during Napoleonic Wars. In this era and in the majority of the Renaissance, second after French weaponry, is usually Italian that is remembered as the second best one. But yeah, basically, France was the first world power from medieval times to the Waterloo battle. From the moment of the defeat at the Waterloo battle and the symbolic and concrete fall of France from the 1st place on the podium, things drastically went in the wrong direction for France and the Anglo-Saxon took the lead. Things changed very quickly in the industrial era, and England became the leader because they were the first to embrace industrialization. That's one of the reasons that made the British Empire so strong during the 19th century until WW1. Then came the Americans and the Russians a bit later, around half of the 19th century. They both became very good at producing, good and reliable weapons during the 20th and 21th century. And here we are today, at pretty much the same stage, where 80% of the best weapons in the world of many different types, are usually made by Americans and Russians and the rest is usually a few very specifc exceptions from sometimes Europeans or Asians.

If it means anything, the French design was copied wayyyyy more. Also, Belgian copies were made and traded very widely in the 18th and 19th centuries. Even the Ottomans bought tens of thousands of them and they were used by some nations late into the 19th century.

Underrated opinion but i think the swedes had one hell of a musket

I am for the Austrian M1798 model. Also in our manual in this time period, we didn't turn the ramrod - they just charge the cartridge with the bottom of the ramrod because it's designed for it. :) It is said, but not what I personally can approve, that the Austrian M1798 Musket could get out more shots than the French model, less misfire. Also our loading manual from 1806 is way more comfortable.

You should try again with paper cartridges, you could just about half your reload time with your skill

Muskets being HIGHLY inaccurate is a myth. Ofcourse they are not as accurate as modern rifles but for the ranges they were intended, they were pretty good.

You’re reloading the musket incredibly slow 😭 But good vid

Great job

Perfect 😊👍

I love the cattle , beautiful animals.

I believe that the military used the same powder to prime as in the musket. They used paper cartridges.

When doing a time comparaison, you should voth start at the same time

How much antique muzzle loading propellant are you using in each? On watching again I notice the touch hole is low . This is leading to longer lock time. Mike Beliveau showed this problems several years ago with a Pedersoli several years a ago. I have several Pedersoli percussion rifles.

Fun. A "musket" is any military longarm that is designed specifically for military use. Rifled musket, Carbine musket, musketoon (short chase musket) and these smoothbore long pattern "muskets" As these were the fundamental non specialized mass infantry arms they weretypically given no modifier name and simple"musket". It is fun to watch people of no legit military training (of the period) shoot these firearms. Holding a lb can of power with a pourer in your hand over a hot barrel...what couldgo wrong. Loading them with individual hunting or marksman methods like they were a civilian rifle or fowler is always a joy to watch over an eternity of time. The French musket is mechanically and manufacturing the better piece as you can break it down without specialty tools or gun skills. The British muskettequires a pin press to remove the barrel and is a bear to get back together...so only sergeants were trusted with the tool to break it down. Both have similar accuracy when used by the same shooter. The Bess you used(if original) is heavier. These replicas have fairly thick barrel walls. The originals were quite thin (both). The 1777 French model is a much later era pattern musket than the Bess offered as comparison. The better comparing might be a French 7 Years War era, but DP doesn't make one anymore.

wonder what they do to ballistics gel or the Paul Harrel meat target?

Zero boxing experience, out of shape, and definitely too short for a fair fight. But i gotta start somewhere on my path to knocking out either Paul brother.

historically 4-5 rounds a minute for the Bess

well this'll be interesting since its something i've always wondered about this era since all the weapons were incredibly similar not like today where we have more complex engineering/ weaponry types to think about

There are Flintlock Rifles btw.

Super vidéo ! 👍🏻

You’re colonial videos and shirts are the best! I love the humor! 😂 “Muskets”

Imagine loading this thing in battle with rain and wind.😮

It’s shorter if you use a pipe cartridge to load a musket

You should try doing 3 rounds in a minute. A well trained British soldier was capable of firing 3 rounds in a minute.

😅😅😅omydog! Those reloads were painfully slow! Patches!? Someone give those men paper cartridges!Ty for the Vivaldi to ease the pain though!😅😅😅

A musket is quieter than modern rifles because the balls they fire don't break the sound barrier exiting the weapon. Shoot an M-16A2 without hearing protection and be prepared for your hearing to be replaced to a high-pitched scream.

wondering what the muzzle velocity and energy are?

Bite, pour, spit, tap, aim, fire. -Sharpe

I had an 1842 Springfield by them. The stock was seriously heavy and looked sort of fat.. I took it to someone who specialized in civil war arms and he re-contoured the stock to a more accurate size and finish. Now it weighs an accurate 10 pounds, not 15,lol.

rematch with paper cartridges

they did not use patches, they used paper cartridges the lead ball was wrapped into it, the ball was smaller than the barrel caliber, like for the French 17.5 mm versus 15 mm ball - as those two muskets are made by Davide Pedersoli, the winner must be Italy

Muito bom essa competição 😂😂😂

POV u and all the friends and enemies fighting zombies and one British and one frunch fighting who got the better musket

i know a few old boy park rangers who do in fact hunt with smoothbore brown besses and or the american 1798 Springfield

a musket is a muzzle loader, a musket can be rifled, like the springfield 1855, which is both a rifle and a musket

Neither, I prefer the Japanese Tanegashima Teppo all the way! (Great video BTW)

could you trade muskets and see how the times and accuracy compare. so like a best and worse case solider to wield the weapon like how bad they could be to how good they could be, you guys can reload but can you carry your gear whilst cramped and shots going off as if you was in a firing line.

Musket comes rom the Itialian word Mochetto which in old Italian is is a sort of Sparrowhawk. Arquebuses and muskets are really the same.

No historic loading with paper cartridges?! How leisurely of you…

If you pre loaded paper cartridges it would go quicker

Americans who don’t know the difference between England and Britain! Clearly a well educated pair full of knowledge 😂

Nice video, but unrealistic. Please take guns, black powder and in field made papier amunition in quality from 1806-1815 and you will see real differences. Old statistic and reports say that french "1777" have to be cleaned every 5-7 shots - Brown Bess was during fire fight much better and fired more that 10-12 shots well. The quality of french black powder was very bad. Britisch and allied troops didn't want to use captured french black powder for Brown-Bess, or preussian, so called "Kuhfuß" (cow feet) guns. Good trained infrantry man fired one shot in 20-25 sec. But you need paper cartriges ;-) And nobody could be so powerfull like infrantry of Alter Fritz. They fired as first all 3 lines in 5-7 sec. and started to reloade and when enemy french, austrian or russian take place to fire, the next preussian salvos came after 10-12 sec. No wonder that after this massive fire first lines in front of army of Friedrich der Große away. The inventor of this tactic was "der alter Dessauer". (Wikipedia). Napoleon Bonaparte die known how problematic "1777" was, so he changed tactic from attacks in lines to attacks in colons with 10-12 ore more lines. So french troops could fire faster, one salvo every 5 sec. with slow reloading. And cleaning of 1777 was not so problematic.

I need a musket

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My understanding was that the Brown Bess used a bigger ball, so if the Brits captured French ammunition, they could still use it but if the French captured British ammunition it was no good to them. This may be from Sharpe!

Greag job

U should alternate guns to see if there is an operator bias.

i think its the same musket fire power if u put many gun powder inside the gun barrel and put 1 ball and shoot it maybe the fire range are longer and stronger penetration

The Prussian 1740 Potzdam or the 1770's era Brown Bess for my money are the best. Both used broad brass pipes as the returning slot for the rammer. You can return the rammer on a slight bend and the pipes will actually straighten it out and slide it back. The Charleville has this teeny little pinhole slot for the rammer, this makes it 100X harder to return rammers quickly during firing. Brown Bess is also noticeably lighter and the swell on the stock makes it very easy to handle and cast about when loading.

How fast do those heavy balls travel in fps ya think 🤔 🤷‍♂️

Musket was specifically a military arm. Smoothbore civilian arms were called fowling pieces or fusils. Rifles had been built before muskets and were used in America during the Revolution

What song is the song when you show the cows🤔😍🙂🥰😘

The Charleville who conquered Europe against the one who....who... was only dropped once.

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Speed doesn’t matter if you can’t hit your target.

Should have bought a Whitworth 6 sided cartridge RIFLE! Look it up boys!

How do you have over 5 million subs in under 11 months as a gun channel?

A musket is essentially a shotgun.

Boo Cow: this happens all the times moo

The British could reload in about thirteen seconds……..

Historically the charlivile was better than the brown bess

Is it enough difference to make a difference? You decide.

almost Sharpe 4 shots a minute

Fun fact French Musket were used during the secession war by the confederate

Neither the French or British military of that era loaded patched round ball. They used paper cartridges.

Charleville all day

This video really doesn’t do a great job of breaking the stigma that muskets are slow and inaccurate 😂

I prefer the m1 garand rifle

Honestly, are paper cartridges more expensive or is there some hidden reason to why everybody uses a powder measurer, patch, and bullet separately?

Clearly England, because unlike the French, they can speak with an English accent.

They don't bounce down the barrel 🙄 also use paper cartridges you'll have a better time

I would sooner you compare two original guns than copies.

french muskets and soldiers and Spanish powder- thats how the treasonous rebellion succeded!

Wdym? Muskets are firearms. Just antique/old.

American flintlock rifles are better because they are homemade and the person builds it for himself and knows how to make it so it works better for himself

im so pissed i dont know the name of that british anthem i think...

*What happened to the vietnam m16 video?*

How far away was the steel target? If it was under 200 yards, a musket can easily hit targets at that range.

Is this a reupload or am I trippin

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