Thank you Abdul for the builds and helping guide those who may not have the information or insights readily available... please continue to share!

@@zanelenkomo my pleasure. The video you made is something good and helpful to many leaving school.

Hey Sis zanele there's a new engineering qualification now called Bachelor of engineering technology in sa and Btech it's gone. So let's say i did Bachelor of engineering technology in industrial engineering at NMU or UJ. Can i do B eng Honours in industrial eng at wits uct or up?

@@truthhaven2909 hey. Uhm at the moment they say you can do honours but it refers to the Engineering technology program. To do honours for the BSc instead of B Eng tech, you can probably still go to UP with a two year program that they have there which was previously for BTech. UCT are more strict with the transition. The requirements are the same at UJ and other universities for BEng Tech and BSc so why not just do the path you would like in the first place as a first year than waste time wanting to transfer. Both will be very hard as a person from grade 12

Between BSc(Eng) and BEng which one would you prefer?

@AV slowed+reverb Engineers (BEng) have the better employment opportunities & salary benefits. ALSO You mention : Construction / Electrical & Electronics Have you considered Mechatronics? - Mechatronic Engineers are VERY MUCH in demand! I would suggest a BEng in Mechatronics.

@@joatmofa0405 I have national Diploma of electrical engineering, my question is, does universities offer advance diploma for a College student?? And whats the different between Btech nd advance diploma? Thank you 🙏🙏

@@ayandankethe1674 If you have a NDip Elec Eng then the next progression would be a BTech degree (assuming the diploma is from a University) - A BTech is 1 year full time (2 years part time) - well worth the investment. I would NOT go the advanced diploma route.

@@joatmofa0405 Tanx 🙏👌 I will definitely go for Btech degree..

@@joatmofa0405 BTech has been discontinued everywhere I believe. Even UNISA has it only available for the last year of those already previously registered.

U lying, u can only be an engineer if you have BScEng /BEng

My manager is a engineer with a Btech

No, he is a technician by professional since he have Btech.... If you can ask him to show you his degree and ecsa registration title , you will see that he is registered as a technician If he has BEng Tech, he would have title of professional technologist Then if he had BScEng /BEng he would register as professional engineer

After 10 years of experience that experience supercede any qualification. Your qualification is only a foot in the door. Technologist or engineer, this has very little to do with how good of an engineering practitioner you are. Experience is the biggest factor

@@innocentngwane7839 ur manager is ur manager, he is not a REAL engineer sorry bro

Just wanted to know at which uni do you study?

Everything you said is true..

@@dulaboy2336 FALSE bro Beng is not comparative to Beng of STELLENBOSCH or UCT

Sir you've made your point clearly but since this is KZfaq different people from various countries might have a hard time contextualizing what you have said here. Can you say in what country you'd have had your training? Perhaps, if its still ok with you could say what university you have attended? But thanks for explanation.

I agree 100%

Having been expiriencing the same reality, more recognition is given to someone that can actually learn and apply skills than someone who just comes with theory and no practical expirience. I feel like the BTech route for those who want to be more practical is the best way to bridge the gap between the old manual way of doing things and the new science.

What did you study??

@@samuelthabang86 National diploma, then BTech then Bsc( Eng). Now Msc

@@engineer3126 I am motivated man. I shall follow the same route.. and hey sorry to be weird but on average how much to Technicians little to no experience get paid at large company like Sasol or BHP Billiton??

Soze lol BSc will never be harder than BEng not in this life

@@ruachhakodeshliveth3966 you are dreaming

Beauty with brain.

Thank you 😊

If someone did a BEng Tech in civil engineering, how many years of study is still needed to reach level of Bsc in civil engineering?

In Namibia B-tech graduates are called incorporate engineers

What can a BTech do after getting the qualification to be considered as an engineer

BSc+BEng-Tech =B.Eng, where BSc is more n deep into research n theories/science which is 50% of BEng n BEng-Tech /Btech's research is more deep into applications, making it the glorified chief Artisan stream, which is 50% of BEng. BEng is the comander in chief as it covers both BSc n Btech sylubus at a time. Lot of people drop out of BEng to do BSc or BTech. So in your case with BSc n having done Btech your like someone who will do BEng for say 8-9years. So your matric you upgraded or you had a nice matric for Bsc?

@@mhlengindlovu8450 you need matric to start BSc afresh you cant jump from Btech to Bsc, unless things changed

Thanks Earnest. It's great that we have individuals with diverse experience wanting to help others gain knowledge! Absolutely there are differences as shared...Note that I speak of the differences from an ECSA perspective in one of my videos. The reference to engineer is relative. It is incorrect to say there is "no way one can become an engineer with a Btech". Some organizations job requirements for facility Engineer are BEng/BSc/Btech and now with GCC.

There is a way to become an engineer with a btech actually, I have a btech and an NQF 8 PM qualification, I am registering for an MEng NQF 9. alternatively one with a btech as it is NQF 7 can register NQF 8 honours (Eng) to gain the title "Engineer"

@@nomkhosincanana7348 I beg to differ, as per ECSA's registration categories you'll fall under the following 4 options based on which diploma/degree you completed; "Candidate Engineer" (BSc/BEng), "Candidate Engineering Technologist" (BTech/BEngTech Honours), "Candidate Certificate Engineer" (GCC), "Candidate Engineering Technician" (National Diploma/National Higher Diploma/BEngTech), and if you satisfy further requirements in terms experience and your portfolio, then you can apply for the "Professional" title to replace the "Candidate" prefix. I myself was on the technical route (Diploma/Btech) but recently just change to an Academic degree (BSc in Engineering) after learning that BTech doesn't lead to the "Professional Engineer" status, even if you study up to MEng or PhD, you will still be a Technologists regardless, unless if you do the GCC where you can earn the "Professional 'Cerfified' Engineer" title. And to my knowledge, there is no University that offers a stand-alone NQF 8 Engineering honours degree to BTech students, there is only a standalone BEngTech Honours (leading to Candidate Engineering Technologist). To date it is only the University of Pretoria that offers a stand-alone BEng Honours in Engineering, but all their Engineering Honours streams (Mining, Electronics, Electrical,Chemical, Mechanical, Mechatronics) require a BSc or a BEng and NOT BTech/BEngTech, EXCEPT CIVIL Engineering, Civil is the only program at UP that accepts candidates with BTech into their Honours program. But as someone already mentioned in the comments, it is true that with time your degree won't matter that much anymore but your experience, but one drawback is that your BTech will forever limit you in terms of leading/signing off Engineering projects. it's only Professional Engineers that are certified to sign-off major engineering projects as per Engineering laws of SA/ecsa, that is one fine print that they will never tell you on your BTech or Diploma admission application at the Universities of Technology.

@@earnestkornaar1001 I get you thanks for the clarity, I thought an MEng can earn one the tittle. UP on the other hand had said an NQF 7 qualification is eligible for admission to honours I guess they did not specify further. Within my years of work experience in the private sector they categorise everyone the same BSC/BEng/Btech we all become plant engineers/principal engineers, Im currently in the public sector most of our senior engineers who signs off big projects are Btech holders with Government certificates. I guess it varies from organisation to organisation or it could probably be more applicable internationally, but to a certain extent you are correct.

​@@earnestkornaar1001can you switch from 1st year BEngTech to 2nd year BEng?

Can I ask. If someone did a BEng Tech in Civil engineering. Can they further their studies one more year to make it the same as a BEng degree?

@@mhlengindlovu8450 yes b.eng tech honours is equivalent to bsc or b.eng. furthermore,you can continue with m.eng then after register as candidate engineer with ecsa, after 3 years of experience then become pr eng instead of pr tech eng

@@brianbruno1716 I understand. Specifically I’d like to know weather after acquiring a BEng Tech degree, I can then do 1 or 2 additional years, then get licensed as an engineer like the graduates of Bsc Eng? My goal is to be a Bsc graduate but I was admitted to BEnb Tech which is 3 years at UJ. I want to know if after I’m done, I can then do maybe 1 or 2 more years and then be recognised a Bsc engineer and get my licence?

@@mhlengindlovu8450 to be recognised as pr eng if you did b.eng tech you need to do honours and masters, then apply as a candidate. To switch from b.engbtech to b.eng or bsc depends of the varsity, Stellenbosch used to allow btech to do one year and receive b.eng, others will probably refuse or credit you a year or two, try asking the department at uj since they have both b.eng tech and b.eng

@@brianbruno1716 Thanks a lot for your answers. Appreciate it.

hahahahah... I have a bias for it too!

Hi Martin I always encourage for further studying, be clear on the reason why you want to study further. Learning in institutions teaches general principles and tools, but the real learning comes from application. You may be disappointed to know that in the work place, it's very possible that someone with a master's gets paid the same sometimes less than someone with an honors, based on the role and impact. If there are further insights you are looking to gain from the masters before work, then do so.. I know internationally they do look for postgraduate studies as an advantage.

BEng , Im currently doing BEng in Mechatronics at Nelson Mandela it is a design-heavy course

@@more2much696 hi, I'm also planning on doing Beng mechatronics at NMU, just wanted to ask hows your experience there

Thank you. Not at all.. as long as the NQF level is sufficient to move on to a masters, then it's ok.

@@zanelenkomo oh thanks

BTech also design and solve scientific problems.

@@linnertjacques1263 All engineering professionals solve scientific problems. Engineers of today mostly study the career to have a good high paying job and not really to innovate.

There is no real difference between the two in the real world. Except for shallow perceptions held by some HR processionals. There is a big difference in the academic world as the BEng course is a lot more difficult in terms of scientific theory. In the BSc, you do 2 years of pure sciences such as physics, chem, applied math, pure math. This more rigorous approach is followed on to the theory of the engineering subjects making them a bit more mathematical in nature

@@lukealadeen7836 brother you are so right. I'm explaining the outline of the perceptions. There is no difference and it's only to separate things but if you look at it Cuban engineers not registered are working jobs in South Africa where registered people are unemployed. It's all just a money making thing. If you look at Iran or Pakistan there is different boards because they don't have time for the inferior superior complex when both are capable of same work.

What makes it clear that BEng is better? Please explain.

Engineer technician would be a bit more hands on.. Engineer would likely manage and coordinate.m

Hi Donnavan I have a BEng, and yourself?

@@zanelenkomo HI Zanele very responsive I must say... I'm trying to decide which would be best for me between BEng/BScEng or the new BEngTech

+Randon Naidoo I would imagine the BTech is the best fit if you've got an NDIP. Also BTech is more hands on and practical focussed.. I would imagine you credits lead you this path as well BEng focuses on Eng Sciences.. a bit more theoretically focussed..

Thank u so much

I'm sure u heard of Durban University of technology, I believe they stop doing BTech only doing BEng that's the reason I asked I'm the verge of completing n6

+Randon Naidoo so you're looking to get a trade certificate?

Yes mam after completion of my course + trade im looking to get my degree to migrate overseas for international experience so hard to pick so many choices what would u recommend best choice for a technical student with +5yrs knowledge

It depends on what your career aspirations are.. the world is your oyster..

I mean like after obtaining my bsc right ...is it a masters next or...?

@@t-reign1895 yes after Bsc(Eng) we go for masters, not that Bsc(Eng) NQF is 8 which is honours level

@@terencenekhwalivhe6004Bsc(Eng) is considered level 8 in South Africa

How so, please explain?

@@chisangamumba2961 it is the only bachelor thats straight engineering...universally acknowledged and also the only degree that lets u straight become a proffesional engineer..bsc engineering is also a route...but its a more science one.

@@15997359 and that is according to whom? Please provide a citation.

​@chisangamumba2961 dude do some research

You would need to get yoir qualification evaluated by ECSA Method of Making Application · Applicants can download the application form from the ECSA website and submit with documents called for in policy E-17-P. o Certified copies of all qualification certificates, with translations if not in English; o Certified copies of all academic records/ transcripts, with translations if not in English;. o A curriculum analysis using the worksheet provided with as much details as possible; o Syllabi of the subjects studied, with translations if not in English; o Final year project report(s) o Certificate for verification of authenticity of degree certificate Here's the link for more details www.ecsa.co.za/education/SitePages/Evaluation%20of%20Qualifications.aspx

@@zanelenkomo thank you.. I have few questions.. 1) Do I need to be in South Africa to submit the application form.. Or it is something the I can do online and make payments online.. because I once tried to email them, I never got a response from them.. 2) is there an ECSA branch in Mafikeng or the Nearest to Mafikeng... Thank you once again..

@@amochenamani9514 Ecsa has online facilities but I suggest whenever you post, try an have it tracked as well, that way you can check to see where your package is, below is Ecsas postal address. Also if you don't hear from them, do call their offices to follow up. ​Engineering Council of South Africa (ECSA) Private Bag X691 BRUMA 2026 The main offices are in Johannesburg, I do know they have reps in large cities such as Durban etc. Have not heard of one in Mafikeng though. Here's a link to their portal, do give them a call. Tel:(011) 607 9500 Email: engineer@ecsa.co.za Website: www.ecsa.co.za

it will take you 4 years assuming that you not failing, check uct or wits

Hi Ntinti. You can still apply with ECSA as a Pr.. but the title will differ.. PR Tech Eng. You don't need to get another degree to register with ECSA...

@@zanelenkomo i am currently doing my BTech this year and my question is what are the requirements of registering with ECSA.

most of btech students who enroll in Bsc start at second year not first year

​@@terencenekhwalivhe6004are you implying that a BTech is equivalent to 2nd year?

not equivalent too, they will only start second if you pass maths, physics uct/wits required them to write, went to uct with some BTech/BEng Tech grads from cput n uj. most started at 1st year, reason being BTech n BEng Tech are engineering Technology while Bsc is engineering sciences, first two years in bsc is pure sciences course which are all prerequstie to others BTech/BEng Tech tend to solve maths problems by plugging into already developed formulas while in Bsc we study mathematical proof so that they will be able to develop solve all the problem from1st principles, is not about which one is better is just different. BEng Tech/BTech use surface mathematics to solve broardly defined problem while BSc need deep mathematical knowledge and physics to solve complex problems.@@chisangamumba2961

Did you find out??

4 years assuming that you not failing.

I speak about it here.. let me know if it helps kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qrSeidR81Lq6Y5c.html