Thanks so much Tom!

Happy to help!!!!

Haha I was going to say something like that but decided to keep it classy. :)

@@2MinuteTennis you were definitely a gentleman in your reactions to his arrogant “you are crazy” statement.

@@Stu49583ha thanks.

The continental and Hawaiian grips are the same. Except the Hawaiian grip uses the other side of the racket. So grab your racket,hold a continental grip, flip the racket 180 degrees so the back of your hand is facing your opponent. That’s a Hawaiian grip. Yes, you heard me correctly. :)

Yep you are correct.

Ryan just taught us how to find out for ourselves. Find a video of the player you want to analyze. Scrub to a frame where the racquet is on edge and find out where the index knuckle is.

I’m going to answer your questions two different ways… 1. With a direct answer 2. With an analogy… Direct answer… The people who watch my videos aren’t D1 level players. Nick from Intuitive tennis could probably beat every single one of the players who watch my videos. I make my videos for low, med., and high level REC players. Also known as the 2.5 to 4.5 crowd. That’s who I make my videos for. That level player REALLY struggles to hit topspin without closing the racket face. Of course Nick from IT is able to pull off a topspin backhand without closing the face (as too can Agassi), but it requires very high level athleticism to pull off. Athleticism that my REC player viewers don’t have. So, I teach my viewers to close the face like Djokovic. It makes it so much easier for rec players to hit topspin. Analogy… When I watch videos on KZfaq about how to rewire an outlet in my home, or install a ceiling fan, the electrician making the video ALWAYS says ‘you MUST turn off the electricity breaker to the outlet you’re working on or you can hurt yourself’. But, when I have an electrician come to my home to do work, they don’t ‘ALWAYS’ turn off the electricity breaker to the outlet they’re working on. Why? BECAUSE THEY’RE PROS. They don’t always need to follow the advice given to the general public. The KZfaq electrician knows his audience ISN’T other electricians. But rather, people like me and he wants me to be safe and turn off the breaker since I’m not a professional electrician. In the same way, I know my audience isn t D1 college players, but rather rec players who are looking for advice on how to hit better shots. Is Nick hitting his backhand wrong? No… Would the vast majority of recreational players who watch my videos hit much better backhands if they closed the face prior to contact? Yes… Now you know what I’m saying………

Now HE has a grip between western and Hawaiian.

Yep. The western requires a very noticeable bend in the wrist. Here's Karen K. Slow it down and it's obvious. kzfaq.infoL17_FWzUxCI

Hahaha thanks Richard!

This explanation was not helpful?

I have experimented with "throttling" my grip in different directions.. and tend to describe my grip at its best as "no grip".. always "loose" and changing to fit the need.. returns in particular. Alternating between the spectrum of beyond eastern backhand for (one hand) backhand to something in the range of semi-western on forehands. My sense is that just rallying with western or beyond feels about as comfortable as standing on my head. To see these extremes by good, consistent players would be more helpful... because seeing is believing, I guess. The biggest mystery to me in tennis is how dynamic the grip needs to be constantly in play. Every shot essentially calls for a reset, but the vast majority of training speaks of the grip as basically constant.

None of the forehands in the video you shared were hit with a full western.

@@2MinuteTennis 2:55 and other video shots show he sometimes hits with a Western. If you read my comment, you would see I said "Djokovic moves his forehand grip... there are no absolutes"

@@jasonbannan4024 ok thanks for commenting

Correct.