Which Halo Level is the Toughest?

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Frogarchist

Frogarchist

4 ай бұрын

Hello frog viewers in this video I discuss which Halo level I think is the toughest in the entire franchise. The results may shock you!
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@Lockerus
@Lockerus 4 ай бұрын
The hardest halo level is getting your mid 30s friends to agree to play coop with you.
@JustZhekai
@JustZhekai 4 ай бұрын
Right
@TyBerg11
@TyBerg11 4 ай бұрын
Aww man, I didn't watch this to get my feelings hurt. Too close
@fabienbergere7865
@fabienbergere7865 4 ай бұрын
F
@EarlierTitan19
@EarlierTitan19 4 ай бұрын
Dayum 😂
@AvinDov
@AvinDov 4 ай бұрын
I’ll play co op with you man
@Horgler
@Horgler 4 ай бұрын
The other frustrating thing about Halo 3's flood is that you'll randomly get elite combat forms that have an absurd amount of health for no good reason. Even multiple swings from an energy sword won't kill them.
@fromthegrave69
@fromthegrave69 4 ай бұрын
The reason for that (I believe) is that they added some shielded flood to H3. Great idea Marty 🙄
@stylesrj
@stylesrj 4 ай бұрын
I like to think that when I attack those particular Combat Forms, I'm somehow not hitting the squishy fleshy bits but the armoured parts which is why my sword or plasma rifle isn't doing anything until I move slightly or aim a bit to the right and BAM, they disintegrate.
@chvIry
@chvIry 4 ай бұрын
@@stylesrjnormally this but I do know some flood had shields incorporated into their hp bar
@stylesrj
@stylesrj 4 ай бұрын
@@chvIry Yeah but the shields would flare up in that case to indicate the damage is being negated by them.
@chvIry
@chvIry 4 ай бұрын
@@stylesrj OP never talked about shield absorption or not so I guess it’s 50/50
@EckhartsLadder
@EckhartsLadder 4 ай бұрын
Two betrayals is awful because of the sheer amount of armor you have to take on while dealing with elites. Very tough. You can run through a lot of Keyes.
@raghuvarv
@raghuvarv 4 ай бұрын
Indeed. Only solace on Legendary with Anniversary and MCC is the Bandana skull. Otherwise, it's a slog if you're not a Mint Blitz or Frog.
@jvjjjweitzel153
@jvjjjweitzel153 4 ай бұрын
Agreed. Running on Two Betrayals is way more difficult, especially at the end. Even with some tricks getting vehicles through only helps somewhat.
@Nighterac
@Nighterac 4 ай бұрын
It's also surprisingly easy to get soft locked because you end up getting stuck on a platform without a Banshee forcing you to restart. It's the only Halo level ever to have softlocks like this that can even happen unless you are playing *really* bad, but guaranteed the softlocks in Two Betrayals won't even be your fault
@raghuvarv
@raghuvarv 4 ай бұрын
@@Nighterac You can also get soft locked playing around with Acrophobia skull. You skip one or two triggers and you have to either go all the way back or outright restart.
@Dave_Chrome
@Dave_Chrome 4 ай бұрын
Two Betrayals or Truth and Reconciliation I'd say. They both have some HELLISH sections
@Labdriver-qk6hm
@Labdriver-qk6hm 4 ай бұрын
The absolute worst part of Coastal Highway is that Buck's AI doesn't let him shoot and talk at the same time, so you'll be getting pegged by banshees and ghosts while Buck delivers scripted dialogue and lets you get melted, in or out of the warthog.
@kingferaligatr7994
@kingferaligatr7994 4 ай бұрын
Fortunately I fixed this in my ODST mod. :) As well as just making Buck a better gunner in general. :D
@LiatKolink
@LiatKolink 4 ай бұрын
That's fucking insane. LMAO.
@RikouHogashi
@RikouHogashi 4 ай бұрын
@@kingferaligatr7994what is it in workshop? If its not there ill find a way
@justinnyugen7015
@justinnyugen7015 4 ай бұрын
that and also banshees and ghosts doing an insane amount of damage (it feels almost like fighting those dual-wielding h2 ultras on legendary). None of the vehicles die in one shot (especially the banshees). Fuel rods have slight homing to them so you'll get pegged. Also if you have the Boom skull on then you might also softlock yourself on this level because when the Oliphant explodes it automatically kills off Virgil as well
@badwolf3618
@badwolf3618 3 ай бұрын
I always play ODST on Legendary with Catch and Tough Luck skulls on. Coastal highway is a fucking nightmare on Legendary with those skulls on. Imagine all those grunts throwing a million plasma grenades at your Warthog, which is a large target and not very mobile and easy to dodge the grenades as when compared to when you're on foot. And Tough Luck makes the enemies often times jump out of the way when you try running them over.
@TibbyII
@TibbyII 4 ай бұрын
"I'm a frog" -Clearly a chicken
@DavisonIncorp
@DavisonIncorp 4 ай бұрын
Unsubbed immediately
@coltforceplayer
@coltforceplayer 3 ай бұрын
He’s not a real mother clucker
@rverma64.
@rverma64. 4 ай бұрын
“House of reckoning is the hardest level” That one brute chieftain on the silent auditorium
@penneguini
@penneguini 4 ай бұрын
I’m glad someone else remembers that guy. He was tougher than most bosses
@rverma64.
@rverma64. 4 ай бұрын
@@penneguini For me, I died to him more than any boss in the game. Almost make me just turn off the game in rage. The harbinger however is very easy to beat with a wall
@cornballfungus
@cornballfungus 4 ай бұрын
When me and my friend played he would just lock onto one of us and jump across the entire arena to smash us. It was crazy
@Mauricio_3018
@Mauricio_3018 4 ай бұрын
Fr, even the Harbinger was easy compared to THAT brute. I had almost no ammo, this guy appears and made me die like 15 times while I ran in circles around the auditorium.
@bennygoodmanisgod
@bennygoodmanisgod 4 ай бұрын
I nearly smashed my controller in two playing him for the first time on Heroic difficulty. My friend and I did that mission on Legendary on co-op and we wasted almost an hour fighting him before accidentally finding a hiding spot above a door where we could just pick him off without him even seeing us. That was PURE HELL!!!
@ramen1010
@ramen1010 4 ай бұрын
I’m glad someone else agrees that the underwater room in regret is the worst. Whenever I hear people talking about halo 2 legendary, it’s always about gravemind, but I’ve always thought regret has more bs.
@raghuvarv
@raghuvarv 4 ай бұрын
Gravemind is actually my favourite level in Halo 2. However, Regret is something that I do not ever look forward to. Yeesh...
@nabeelhussain1372
@nabeelhussain1372 4 ай бұрын
I remember this being hell my first run, but it's actually pretty easy to run through
@JP93002
@JP93002 4 ай бұрын
go canes
@sleepshouter5017
@sleepshouter5017 4 ай бұрын
I remember when I was just a wee boy watching my brothers play Halo 2 on legendary co-op for the first time. They were on Regret and my middle brother found the skull on there by accident (the one that makes every enemy invisible lol). Back then we only knew where the blind skull was and what it did so he picked it up expecting it to remove the HUD, and my oldest brother was just like “WHY ARE THEY ALL INVISIBLE!!!” I swear they were in that underwater room for a good 2 hours trying to get past it lol… with invisible sniper jackals
@Materialist39
@Materialist39 4 ай бұрын
I had blocked it out but that room is demonic. Maybe speedrunners have consistent ways of navigating it but playing it casually is a slog.
@Speingy
@Speingy 4 ай бұрын
when I played Long Night of Solace on Legendary, after at least an hour of making my way through the first part of the Sabre section, for some reason, the game thought it would be a great idea to give me a checkpoint immediately as I died, which forced me to have to play through the level all over again
@Laynel8
@Laynel8 4 ай бұрын
That happened to me as well! But in my case, the game decided to give me a checkpoint just as my ship was about to be blown up and I got stuck in an infinite death loop every time the checkpoint would load, forcing me to restart the level all over again
@SillyPillow
@SillyPillow 4 ай бұрын
@@Randy.Bobandy Yeah, I think it's like... five times or something? It might vary a little, I dunno.
@stylesrj
@stylesrj 4 ай бұрын
@@Randy.Bobandy Sometimes I get caught in a death loop that I can break out of and I really don't want to have it send me back to the previous checkpoint since that was the only checkpoint I got after a long firefight...
@badwolf3618
@badwolf3618 3 ай бұрын
I LOVE that mission, but the second part of the space battle on Legendary is infuriatingly difficult. I could just start the mission at the 3rd Rally Point where you finally enter the Covenant ship, but if you do that, at least in my experience it's really difficult to get through the first insertion part with the starting weapons they give you (magnum and assault rifle) and you don't get a ton of ammo. So I always choose to suffer through the space battle part so that I will still have a fully stocked needle rifle and DMR to get through the 3rd part of the mission with.
@brettnash1750
@brettnash1750 2 ай бұрын
Litteraly happened to me 2-3 weeks ago… haven’t been on Xbox since ahahah
@MrHouckms
@MrHouckms 4 ай бұрын
For LASO definitely Gravemind, honorable mention to Cairo Station
@iiroyalty2519
@iiroyalty2519 4 ай бұрын
truth and reconciliation
@locatorcards
@locatorcards 4 ай бұрын
Gravemind, Cairo, and Truth and Reconsider My Very Existence
@iiroyalty2519
@iiroyalty2519 4 ай бұрын
@locatorcards Literally. I did gravemind laso, and it was managable. The first room on the fucking ship in that level made me stop trying ce laso.
@locatorcards
@locatorcards 4 ай бұрын
@@iiroyalty2519 couldn't agree more. Gravemind just takes practice. But TAR's first room needs all the cards to align. Easily the hardest part of all of LASO campaigns for me
@iiroyalty2519
@iiroyalty2519 4 ай бұрын
@locatorcards Exactly. I finished reachh, 2 and 3 before and burned myself out of finishing the rest while trying that fucking level.
@ChristopherCoxFilm
@ChristopherCoxFilm 4 ай бұрын
Having beaten every Halo solo Legendary EXCEPT Halo 2, your channel inspired me to go for it. I only used easy exploits to pass a few sections. 95% of the playthrough was legit. It was hard af. I gotta agree that Regret and Gravemind were the hardest and Halo 2 is def the hardest on Legendary. I have to add that Long Night of Solace saber section and Coastal Highway sections are the hardest of any halo for me. They pass the unfairness to borderline unplayable. So infuriating.
@justinnyugen7015
@justinnyugen7015 4 ай бұрын
I'd start chipping away at the most skip-friendly h2 levels first. Outskirts, Uprising, Delta Halo (with a few tutorial look ups on where to activate checkpoints), and Great Journey can be finished really quickly. I recently learned the invincibility glitch in Oracle as well, which makes it so much easier. Toughest fights were Metropolis (the sniper section, and also the final 3 wraiths having ultra elites in them so they never die), Regret, and Gravemind.
@ChristopherCoxFilm
@ChristopherCoxFilm 4 ай бұрын
@@justinnyugen7015 weirdly enough, the sniper section in Metropolis didn’t piss me off much. I died a good amount but by hanging back I could snipe every jackal sniper as they ran up to check on their dead buddy lol. Just sat back and killed like 12 jackals in a row. But then I didn’t have the gauss hog for the next section with the wraiths and THAT was the hardest checkpoint I had in my entire halo 2 playthrough.
@LionelBercovich
@LionelBercovich 3 ай бұрын
@@ChristopherCoxFilmI’ve always feared Halo 2’s Legendary, but now I’m doing a level each day, I thought it would be a lot worse, idk the levels that much and by being careful I’m finishing the missions in less than an hour and with less than 15 deaths. The ghost is OP
@kennethraymond2959
@kennethraymond2959 4 ай бұрын
A great tip for halo 3, cortana: Try using a plasma rifle. I have no idea why but plasma rifles melt the pure forms (not the tank)
@stylesrj
@stylesrj 4 ай бұрын
Plasma Rifles also seem to just do more melee damage. Or at least when you hit Flood with it, it looks like the Plasma Rifle tears them apart. Probably just a perception thing though.
@badwolf3618
@badwolf3618 3 ай бұрын
Yes! Dual wielding Plasma Rifles are great for the Pure forms, especially when they go into their stationary position and start shooting their barbs at you. Needlers also work well against them. Carbines, battle rifles, and other non-spray guns are useless against them.
@JH-tc3yu
@JH-tc3yu 4 ай бұрын
Slow sounding out Olifant had me absolutely cracking up
@coxandrewj
@coxandrewj 4 ай бұрын
I think I died at least 60 times trying to kill Regret my first play through. Those elites are relentless.
@justinnyugen7015
@justinnyugen7015 4 ай бұрын
Same happened to me. I took a day break. Went back in. Learned that they stop respawning after a certain number and that I could just lure each pair out to the gondola, where I could snipe them in peace
@fromthegrave69
@fromthegrave69 4 ай бұрын
I don’t know if it is the overall hardest or not, but for a first time play through, Coastal Highway probably took me longer to complete than any other level in the franchise.
@raghuvarv
@raghuvarv 4 ай бұрын
Coastal Highway on Legendary gives me nightmares. It. Is. So. Annoying. The only highlight is the firefight at the end.
@sandman8920
@sandman8920 4 ай бұрын
Really?
@The_smarter_one
@The_smarter_one 4 ай бұрын
The start of the level is a nightmare.If your playing with a friend tho then it becomes a little easier.The problem with it is it has a lot of enemies and ghosts.Bucks A.I can’t shoot if his life depended on it(it does)and the level is really long.Once you get to the tank the level becomes a bit more easier and the fire fight at the end is good 👍
@cmdrmeldoc59
@cmdrmeldoc59 4 ай бұрын
That horrible Vidmaster challenge man. I still remember that day. It was so bad, and took so long. We felt like we had climbed a mountain once we got to the end fight finally!
@Mediocre_Gaming1917
@Mediocre_Gaming1917 4 ай бұрын
The Halo Completionist guide for Coastal Highway made that section less painful, but yeah, it's kind of miserable by default
@finisterre2415
@finisterre2415 4 ай бұрын
Beating Costal Highway/Regret made me entirely convinced that bungie were a bunch of sadists
@zackolander5568
@zackolander5568 4 ай бұрын
The random Spartan Assault stray was hilarious
@MrWaifuTaker
@MrWaifuTaker 4 ай бұрын
As a Halo Reach fan, Long Night of Solace was absolute hell on legendary from the Sabre section, especially with the death spider Seraphs and how you can get shredded easily in the Corvette if you don't have enough Needle Rifle/DMR/Plasma Pistol ammo.
@kajetandutkiewicz448
@kajetandutkiewicz448 4 ай бұрын
Shredded easily in this case means 20 minutes of baiting out Elite focus rifle snipers, if anyone's wondering.
@sandman8920
@sandman8920 4 ай бұрын
That mission is broken. I just hide behind the big ship (can’t remember what it’s called) and basically wait until all the waves are over the just fly to the covenant ship. It’s easy if you do that.
@stylesrj
@stylesrj 4 ай бұрын
@@sandman8920 Anchor 9? Or is this during the fight against the Corvette? The Corvette is called... the Long Night Of Solace (or was that the supercarrier?) and the UNSC ship attacking it is the Savannah.
@sandman8920
@sandman8920 4 ай бұрын
@@stylesrj anchor 9 I think it’s called. The big space station. It’s a while since I’ve played it. It’s amazing how you forget stuff from game to game 😆 I play through the bungie games on legendary every year from start to finish. I’ve literally just finished halo 3 and about to finish infinite then starting on reach again after that. I always skip 4&5 because I hate them.
@sandman8920
@sandman8920 4 ай бұрын
@@Ripa-Moramee it’s maybe just the mcc version that’s broken. I’ve played the original on normal but I’ve played the mcc version on legendary a few times. I might try the original on legendary to see if it’s easier.
@LkMMoDC
@LkMMoDC 4 ай бұрын
When I played infinite on leg at launch the hardest level was the one with the dual brute boss fight where one is in a chopper. Can't remember the name. House of reckoning was challenging but those 2 brutes were fucking bullshit. My neighbors knocked on my door asking if they should call the cops. They thought a domestic was going on.
@ThatPCGamingNoob
@ThatPCGamingNoob 4 ай бұрын
Damn brother you must be my lost at birth twin because I literally had the same thing happen on that level for my infinite playthrough
@venomouzelite4380
@venomouzelite4380 Ай бұрын
Holy shit fucking same. Glad I wasn't the only one that thought that fight was some BS
@taylormartin4346
@taylormartin4346 4 ай бұрын
All of your content on CE has motivated me to go back and play it on Legendary. I played through it once and was kinda meh about it but you've given me a new outlook on it! I was stuck on Truth and Reconciliation and because I kept using all the sniper ammo before even getting on the ship. Now stuck on getting Capt Dicknuts out.
@justinnyugen7015
@justinnyugen7015 4 ай бұрын
That hangar section was brutal. So many Zealots on one ship!!
@Canada407
@Canada407 4 ай бұрын
I'd say one part that's really hard is the Nothing But Jackal on Delta Halo. Because of Jackal snipers & the several spawns of buggers. Took me along time to get past it
@Mr.YubNub
@Mr.YubNub 4 ай бұрын
I got stuck there for quite a while on my first legendary run. The bugger spawns are inconsistent as well from what I remember. Sometimes it feels like they all spawn on you at once, and other times some of them literally do not spawn at all.
@ORLY911
@ORLY911 4 ай бұрын
@@Mr.YubNub i believe the drones spawn based on some criteria, checking for enemies killed and passing triggers, and they spawn differently depending which "route" you take down that area, same for a couple of the snipers I think.
@justinnyugen7015
@justinnyugen7015 4 ай бұрын
I got stuck too until I learned that the entire level can be skipped by taking a ghost up the cliffs
@alphacentauri3069
@alphacentauri3069 4 ай бұрын
Any halo 2 mission that contains more than 2 jackal snipers should be an honorable mention
@2kdavv
@2kdavv 4 ай бұрын
as someone who speedruns halo 2, gravemind and regret are tied for me for most difficult throughout the whole series. the boss fight in regret is just so outrageously difficult especially when the dual wielding elites come out. and gravemind has just so many sections where if you do the wrong thing or the enemies spawn in weird you can get obliterated before you can even react. game is just kind of unfair lol
@2kdavv
@2kdavv 4 ай бұрын
boss fight is indeed hard lol i just got it down by trying a billion times @@Ripa-Moramee
@Kitchensink108
@Kitchensink108 4 ай бұрын
Another thing about Two Betrayals is that it's the most dynamic level in the game, and it's very hard to have the right weapons for the right fight. Co-op is nice because you get to choose 2 extra guns to carry. But you spend so much of the level trying to decide between the shotgun, pistol, sniper, rockets, or plasma pistol, knowing that whatever you choose will make your life a little more difficult against either Flood, Shielded Covenant, Unshielded Covenant, Sentinels, Ghosts, Wraiths, Banshees or whatever else you may encounter at any given time. Plus cycling between short range and long range fighting. Of course the flipside is that it also makes it possibly the most interesting level, as you'll regularly have the wrong weapons and need to pick up needlers or plasma rifles from the ground to get through an area.
@kmp8563
@kmp8563 4 ай бұрын
Long night of solace was so much worse for me on MCC. I think I died once or twice in the space battle on the original Reach, but I literally had to hide and let the frigate guns do most of the work on MCC after countless deaths 💀
@thesparkytv
@thesparkytv 4 ай бұрын
If you picked the RTS ones, Arcadia (From Halo wars) would certainly be way up in the list. Considered one of the hardest RTS levels to beat on the hardest difficulty.
@getnaenaed99
@getnaenaed99 4 ай бұрын
I finished my first full legendary CE playthrough a few days ago, and the ending of Keyes was a contender for the most grueling section of that game for me. The canyon sections were bad enough, even after I used active camo to sneak through the first half, but fighting my way to the bottom of the hangar through dozens of spec ops elites and fuel rod grunts with low health and ammo was an absolute nightmare. Still need to finish Halo 2 and 4 on legendary too, so I fear the worst is yet to come
@floopygoober
@floopygoober 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic video chiggen. Man you time the cut aways with kat perfectly they caught me off-guard in the funniest way.
@lewischerry3552
@lewischerry3552 4 ай бұрын
I wondered why I found the sabre section so much harder than I used to
@sfulibarri
@sfulibarri 4 ай бұрын
Good list, I recently ran through MCC on heroic and definitely felt the most pain in Cortana and Long Night of Solace.
@sandman8920
@sandman8920 4 ай бұрын
I’ve just beaten cortana and loved every second and thought it was quite easy
@TheHTFAmv
@TheHTFAmv 4 ай бұрын
For me, it's definitely a mix between Gravemind, Regret and Coastal Highway My wife and I were trying to beat LASO on ODST, and it took LONG time to beat Coastal bc our connection kept cutting out. We once got disconnected after the very last encounter, as the phantom was flying in.
@ryanfinnerty02
@ryanfinnerty02 4 ай бұрын
I did not know the difference between the MCC and original version of LNoS. That explains why I didn’t recall wanting to bash my head against a wall when I was a kid playing that level on legendary
@nicholasleon7819
@nicholasleon7819 4 ай бұрын
Holy shit I am so fucking glad you had the exact same experience with Buck on Coastal Highway
@cmdrmeldoc59
@cmdrmeldoc59 4 ай бұрын
Ok, so I am playing MCC through on Legendary with my friend who’s never played Halo before (Legendary because we do Grandmasters on Destiny 2 for fun and we ain’t bitches). I swear on everything to this man that when I played Halo Reach back on 360, Long Night of Solace wasn’t that crazy hard, and my first playthrough was solo Legendary. Even easier when helping friends do it later on. He claimed in jest that I was just bad, but genuinely that I might remember things differently or whatnot. So thank you so much for validating me! It actually was harder than I remember, and I’m not going crazy! 😂
@arcticbeak
@arcticbeak 4 ай бұрын
Oh, I didn't know the sabre part in LNOS was changed. I was gaslighting myself because I didn't remember it to be this difficult back then.
@badwolf3618
@badwolf3618 3 ай бұрын
They changed it?!?!? Omg that explains why it felt so much more difficult playing it on MCC versus when I first played it when it first came out.
@socialaccount0000
@socialaccount0000 4 ай бұрын
4:05 I get PTSD whenever Cortana says "Brutes!"
@esctheo
@esctheo 4 ай бұрын
enjoyed seeing you talk about all the halo games
@DG-ns1yh
@DG-ns1yh 4 ай бұрын
Agreed throughout, the gravemind elevator thing happened to me on my legendary play through, halo 2 has a handy feature where if you die too quickly after a checkpoint a few times in a row it will revert it by one more checkpoint - this saved me
@Sigma_Eisen
@Sigma_Eisen 4 ай бұрын
Instant sub, these are the real questions we need to be asking.
@73rmin8r
@73rmin8r Ай бұрын
The flood guy with the rocket launcher in the cave tunnel in two betrayls is an absurd design choice.
@crumpetsack3909
@crumpetsack3909 4 ай бұрын
Two Betrayals and Gravemind are both tied as my favorite level in the whole series. As terrifyingly difficult as they are, I'm always so happy to play them
@dudemccool5381
@dudemccool5381 4 ай бұрын
Me and a buddy spent like 3 hours on the Regret boss, his laser can one shot you, shitty checkpoints, and constant enemy spawns. Gives me ptsd every time I see it
@user-zv4om7gu2l
@user-zv4om7gu2l 2 ай бұрын
Bro I just binge watched most if not all your halo vids. Gahhdamn great job 👍
@jvjjjweitzel153
@jvjjjweitzel153 4 ай бұрын
That tough room in Regret you can run past, it is what I almost always did. Running past stuff in Gavemind is way more difficult and more risky due to how long the level is.
@justinnyugen7015
@justinnyugen7015 4 ай бұрын
yeah. the only "safe" skips I was able to do in Gravemind were the outdoor areas (where you can just climb up to the beams up top and walk all the way across) and the atriums, where you go cliff climbing. The other fancy despawns and prison skips are too fancy for me to master without rage quitting
@alderneyscoucer90
@alderneyscoucer90 4 ай бұрын
Entering the roof of the corvette on Long Night of Solace on Legendary for me, 4 Elites in a room with minimal gravity so it’s easy to get surrounded or if you panic or get caught on something and jump you’re pretty much guaranteed to die instantly. Got so annoyed after 2 hours of screwing up that I quit my Legendary playthrough for a month and just played multiplayer or a different game entirely.
@tylerdurden4080
@tylerdurden4080 4 ай бұрын
The Halo CE shotgun, perfection.
@hoppeanhelicoptertours
@hoppeanhelicoptertours 4 ай бұрын
Nice video chicken frog
@Panamaniac3D
@Panamaniac3D 3 ай бұрын
I just finished Halo Reach’s campaign on Legendary. My first time playing through any Halo game on Legendary. The Long Night of Solace fight was hard but didn’t seem any harder than the rest of the campaign, but that could just be that I died a lot on every mission as I am not great at Legendary yet. EDIT: I will add that I don’t own an XBOX: One so I was playing on the normal 360 version which appears to be a little less difficult than the MCC version.
@beebfajeejy
@beebfajeejy 4 ай бұрын
the vehicle problem in legendary is pretty consistent across the entire franchise, where the entire vehicle is treated as an extension of your body and not an augment to it, making you ultimately just a bigger target. it pretty much ruins all the vehicle levels.
@badwolf3618
@badwolf3618 3 ай бұрын
And if your gunners on the Warthog or the tank turrets are idiots and slow to target and shoot enemies, it's infuriating since you are dying due to factors that you can't control.
@coxandrewj
@coxandrewj 4 ай бұрын
Commenting a third time, but I agree, Regret is much harder. The deaths feel fair in Gravemind, (usually), but having your progress sniped away in Regret is just so tough to swallow
@coxandrewj
@coxandrewj 4 ай бұрын
Also brutes are easy to kill don’t @ me
@Nedak2003
@Nedak2003 4 ай бұрын
On Outskirts in Halo 2, I usually have a tough time with the vehicle section because im trying to get the rocket launcher and give it to the marine in passenger of my warthog. But the marine AI in halo 2 is so eager to do their own thing. When I tell the marine to exit the vehicle, they will often get in the driver seat, or run off with the rocket launcher I just gave them, while another nearby marine enters the passenger, all while we are under fire from ghost. I have now develpoed a new methed where i quickly get out to grab the rocket launcher, get back in and drive to back to an earlier part of the level where there are no npcs that can distract us, then i get give the marine the rocket.
@justinnyugen7015
@justinnyugen7015 4 ай бұрын
I have the same trouble but on metropolis. Provided that the Warthog doesn't get absolutely obliterated before you reach it in the Sniper Bowl, your marine pals are very reluctant to hop in the passenger (and if you do, giving them a rocket means you risk them running off on foot)
@badwolf3618
@badwolf3618 3 ай бұрын
Yes. Marine AI can be really frustrating to get to work right. In Halo 3 in The Ark mission, the part where you get the two Prowlers: I will take my time getting the right Marines to get in the passenger spots with one having a rocket launcher and the other one having a sniper rifle. It's worth it but also is just such s huge pain in the ass because they wanna keep getting into the gunner or driver spot in the other Prowler, or they try to get into the Mongoose and drive away.
@Nedak2003
@Nedak2003 3 ай бұрын
@@badwolf3618 makes me think Halo 5 was on to something with it's squad mechanics. It would be much less of a headache if I could just order marines to enter a specific spot and tell my gunner who to shoot because ai in Halo doesn't prioritize the most dangerous targets like a fuel rod grunt.
@deadeyexl8392
@deadeyexl8392 4 ай бұрын
For Infinite (not taking the Tank Gun into consideration), The Tower was the hardest part for me, and only because you can’t have the Calcine Disruptor before it. That gun completely changes the game when you can get it, and I even used it on my LASO run, and it CARRIED
@justinnyugen7015
@justinnyugen7015 4 ай бұрын
it carries in firefight too, while the standard disruptor does fuck all once the Thunderstorm skull activiates and everyone has shields
@AntwanFuzznips
@AntwanFuzznips 4 ай бұрын
dude i thought i was going insane on long night of solace. I did legendary solo on 360 back in the day and I never remembered that part being unfair at all. Good to know it wasn't just me
@badwolf3618
@badwolf3618 3 ай бұрын
Same. I currently have my MCC stuck on that checkpoint because it is so much harder now than before. I thought I was either getting worse at the game or that I was misremembering how difficult it was.
@JorisWeima
@JorisWeima 4 ай бұрын
4:30 omg I recently had an extra fun experience with the Prison level. From the upper room I thought it would be smart to jump into the grav lift towards the prison while havent yet killed all of the Brutes there. Bad choice, cuz they came after me into the grav lift, so right upon arriving at the prison level I had to fight even more Brutes than normally😂😂 I died a ton of times lol
@badwolf3618
@badwolf3618 3 ай бұрын
Yep! Made the same mistake once myself. Never again.
@Headbanger203
@Headbanger203 4 ай бұрын
So from experience of playing all the Halo games SLASO you're on the money with the levels, regret and gravemind alone took about 12 hours of pain, the rest only had maybe one tough level. For any wondering my rankings for overall game difficulty SLASO would be, Halo 2, Halo, Halo Reach, Halo 4, ODST and 3. I got the speed run achievements while doing these laso.
@Headbanger203
@Headbanger203 4 ай бұрын
@@Ripa-Moramee It just stands for Solo Legendary All Skulls On, I never had anyone stupid enough to help me when I decided to try the challenge of LASO.
@Gufo2327
@Gufo2327 3 ай бұрын
SLASO for me would be: H2 H4 Reach CE ODST H3 I've never played H5 or Infinite and I rank H4 so high because I hate the mechanics of it: it's not hard, just very infuriating with all these dogs crawling around everywhere, knights disappearing, butterflies protecting and healing them. It just doesn't feel Halo. CE in my opinion quite random, but easier as you kill grunts and they explode taking out many others on occasion
@Headbanger203
@Headbanger203 3 ай бұрын
The Knights were awful, easy too but the fact that it was easier to melee them rather then use weapons was frustrating.
@morbidtotty8375
@morbidtotty8375 4 ай бұрын
I’m glad that other people suffered through gravemind as I have. I know it’s by far the hardest encounter in halo 3 but the first time I played through it on legendary the brute chieftain on the way to saving the marines gave me a decent amount of troubles
@MystGang
@MystGang 4 ай бұрын
I've only played Infinite on legendary, House of Reckoning was just tedious. You get a lot of ammo and have sufficient cover with the 2 bosses being health sponges that can't hit you with certain strategies. Hardest section for me was the end of Pelican Down with Hyperious and Tovarus (had to google their names lol). Can't stand on the ground without a Pimp my Ride-d chopper ramming you, but standing on a platform without cover means a scrap cannon is raining down on you. The safest place I could find only had 1 commando for ammo and Tovarus is a bastard with shields. Definitely still more tedious than difficult, but took more brainpower than running around a pillar to pacify Escharum.
@justinnyugen7015
@justinnyugen7015 4 ай бұрын
meanwhile in firefight, people are just pushing Escharum off of cliffs with the Repulsor lololol
@galactic1776
@galactic1776 4 ай бұрын
I have never felt happier playing a Halo game than when I figure out you could “skip” the underwater room on Regret by just hightailing it to the door and praying
@justinnyugen7015
@justinnyugen7015 4 ай бұрын
or sword flying right into the hunters, who are too shocked to respond right away
@badwolf3618
@badwolf3618 3 ай бұрын
WHAT?!?!? HOW?!?!? All those snipers and buggers..... Is it really possible to run past all of them without getting killed?
@justinnyugen7015
@justinnyugen7015 3 ай бұрын
@@badwolf3618 kill the closest 2 sniper jackals, retreat, go to the other side and try to find a more snipers. Snipe. Retreat. Then run straight down the middle head on towards hunters
@badwolf3618
@badwolf3618 3 ай бұрын
@@justinnyugen7015I will have to try that next time. I typically avoid doing any skips in Halo because as much as certain sections suck, it feels good when you finally get through (kinda like finally killing a difficult boss in Dark Souls), but seriously fuck that underwater room. I will absolutely skip it if I can.
@galactic1776
@galactic1776 3 ай бұрын
@@badwolf3618I mean I've only done it on Heroic
@Gwenneth.idfk.
@Gwenneth.idfk. 4 ай бұрын
For that one covenant guarded generator section in Forerunner I always just get to that closest banshee before the elite does (usually by aplattering said elite with a ghost), get in the banshee and shoot down all the other banshees, and then grab a host and just splatter all of the enemies on the ground. I can usually get that done in a few attempts on legendary. That one section in composer with the infinite spawning covenant though jfc - fuck that section lmao.
@chrisleduc7566
@chrisleduc7566 4 ай бұрын
Definitely agree with you about 2 betrayals, that shit was a nightmare
@josheddy6963
@josheddy6963 4 ай бұрын
Hardest mission is lone wolf I always die, I've never completed it to this day
@badwolf3618
@badwolf3618 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@KGANRBRTSN
@KGANRBRTSN 4 ай бұрын
Regret is honestly the hardest imo. Not only is the amount of times you need to board regret to kill him annoying but the fact that checkpoints are so sparse means they can be given at the worst times. My first H2 legendary run of this level gave me a checkpoint in the middle of the room behind one of the ramps meaning i had to sidestep a sword wielding honour guard and run away from covenant hunting me down. The level on legendary sucks
@bihansiceklone
@bihansiceklone 4 ай бұрын
seeing Kat getting domed out of context will never not be funny
@Raptor747
@Raptor747 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, Halo 2 in general kind of takes the cake for a lot of reasons. It's absolutely ruthless; enemies will melt you, they're super aggressive, enemy variety is high, there are lots of bullshit scenarios and enemies, and the Regret boss fight is just outrageous. Gravemind is iconic because it just slaps you in the face RIGHT AWAY by spawning you in a big room filled with enemies with minimal cover where you have nothing but a single Needler, and enemy reinforcements will pour in from multiple places. Then the level does it again with the prison section, where it throws you right into the middle of a terrible situation without you being able to do anything about it, and you have to be fast and aggressive and accurate or you die. Honorable mention to coastal highway for forcing you between a rock and a hard place with Buck's shitty AI and the escort mission forcing you to hurry.
@justinnyugen7015
@justinnyugen7015 4 ай бұрын
I think at one point I kicked Buck off of the turret, handed him my rockets, and used the gauss myself from a different vantage point.
@badwolf3618
@badwolf3618 3 ай бұрын
I always play ODST on Legendary with Catch and Tough Luck. Coastal Highway is even more of a nightmare with those skulls on.
@dredhead117
@dredhead117 3 ай бұрын
the Pillar of Autumn (last level in Reach) deserves a mention. You fight every enemy in the game, and while you can slow play some parts, its overall pretty relentless
@TacBans
@TacBans 4 ай бұрын
Some honorable mentions for Halo 2 would be, imo, Cairo Station and Sacred Icon. Cairo Station, while not being absolutely ball busting like some later levels, and being generous with Marines and Battle Rifle ammo, is basically a "baptism by fire" for first time Legendary playthroughs. It can be absolutely brutal, but if you can survive it, you can survive most of Halo 2. Sacred Icon, while definitely being able to be run through with camo, and having a pretty easy opening minutes, can be fucking ridiculous for some players (me) once the Flood show up. The segment from turning off the barrier, up until you drop down to the ground level, can be an absolute slog if you play defensively. That one hallway where you see Marines fighting Flood has an insane amount of ranged Flood spawns, so it can quickly turn into a cycle of "move up a few steps -> 6 or 7 human combat forms with SMGs being spraying at you with stupid good accuracy -> retreat back to regenerate shields while Flood pursue -> take out remaining combat forms -> repeat" for like half an hour. Eventually, I just end up saying screw it and just run past most Flood spawns because they just never let up. Besides that, I pretty much agree with the list. CE has a difficulty spike post-GS but The Maw isn't quite as bad, Halo 2 is brutal in general, 3 & ODST are actually somewhat easy, and Reach is more just an overall challenge than varying levels.
@badwolf3618
@badwolf3618 3 ай бұрын
Sacred Icon is hella difficult. Fighting the Flood and the Forerunner drones at the same time is just so goddamn hard.
@Delta36A1
@Delta36A1 4 ай бұрын
Regret is the hardest by far for me overall. Like you said once you get a carbine Gravemind is still hard but it is doable. Regret on the other hand feels like you just have to get lucky with the Regret fight as getting dropped in the wrong place into a bunch of Honor guard elites after boarding him is basically certain death. Thats without mentioning all the other hard parts of Regret such as the very begininng, the sniper jackals, the underwater room etc... For CE my vote goes to Truth and Reconiliation. It has all the waves of enemies before you come up the Grav Lift, the ambush section when you first get into the ship from the grav lift, the hangar sections, and perhaps most annoyignly the section where you have to escort Keyes who is usually determined to get himself killed or worse kill himself. Two Betrayals and Keyes were defintely hard, but at least for me they didn't compare to T&R. In terms of the other games I don't think any of the levels come particualrly close to any of the aforementioned ones, but I agree with your choices from 3, ODST, Reach and 4. I haven't played 5 at all so IDK on that one. Infinte I haven't played on Legendary so not sure on that one either.
@justinnyugen7015
@justinnyugen7015 4 ай бұрын
You don't actually have to worry much about RNG in the regret fight. You can lure all the Honor Guards outside and snipe them from the gondola before going back to Regret when necessary, who (once all the seemingly endless elites are dispatched of) will only be guarded by respawning grunts
@Delta36A1
@Delta36A1 4 ай бұрын
@@justinnyugen7015 I haven't played Halo 2 Legendary in over a year now, but I was under the impression that the Honor Guards and Grunts spawned endlessly.
@justinnyugen7015
@justinnyugen7015 4 ай бұрын
@@Delta36A1 only the grunts do indefinitely. The Honor Guards still spawn more than reasoably though, but eventually they'll stop
@grantmaurer9921
@grantmaurer9921 4 ай бұрын
I know there are skips on Regret too, but Gravemind has a lot of fights that are completely skippable, but fairly challenging too, contributing to how hard it feels,especially to more inexperienced players
@jps_musics
@jps_musics 4 ай бұрын
Idk what it is about Infinite, but I had a weirdly tough time playing the game on normal for my first playthrough. Then I did a legendary run, and had a FAR easier time. I barely died. To make sure I hadn’t just gotten good, I did a run on normal again, and I had a really tough time the entire playthrough. Idk what that’s about
@Lucios1995
@Lucios1995 4 ай бұрын
4:39 Getting your coprse shot was pretty funny
@jacobcentamore4901
@jacobcentamore4901 3 ай бұрын
When the flood levels began (more so 2 betrayals so on) i always carried pistol and shotgun. Then drop my shotgun for plasma pistol to noob combo elites in the area, then pick the shotgun back up
@gAmeD117
@gAmeD117 4 ай бұрын
Man, I agree with you almost completely, incredible.
@SuperRookie117
@SuperRookie117 4 ай бұрын
At Halo 3's Gravemind level don't forget that the pureforms when you stick them with a plasmagrenade in their ranged form they quite often transform and just simply "eat" the grenade which deactivates it. Happened to me many time in the original Xbox 360 Halo 3.
@homerlol9058
@homerlol9058 4 ай бұрын
Truth and reconciliation in laso broke me
@justinnyugen7015
@justinnyugen7015 4 ай бұрын
Hangar Section?
@117oddlink-9
@117oddlink-9 4 ай бұрын
7:46 What’s worse about it is that the AI is so inconsistent. ODST is the same game as Halo 3, how does Buck have downgraded AI?
@justinnyugen7015
@justinnyugen7015 4 ай бұрын
he has more scripted lines and for some reason can't shoot when he delivers said lines. At least he's useful in the final holdout section, being invincible and all
@kazuhiramiller7945
@kazuhiramiller7945 4 ай бұрын
The silent auditorium was incredibly frustrating on legendary and I see few people talking about it. I was quite literally on the verge of tears with how frustrated I was becoming and had to stop playing for a couple hours to wind down.
@CellVidsRBoring
@CellVidsRBoring 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely, the silent auditorium was absolute bullshit due to the boss fight.
@johnsmith7303
@johnsmith7303 4 ай бұрын
Oh man Coastal Highway… I had managed to block that one from my mind. Most aggravating level I think I’ve ever played.
@kitster1176
@kitster1176 Ай бұрын
In that big room on Regret with the hunters and sniper jackals, if you just stick way to the right side of the room you can very easily just avoid all the enemies and enter the next room to get a checkpoint. That Boss Fight though is horror
@NexusSomnia
@NexusSomnia 4 ай бұрын
Best part of ODST is the surprise cameo from Timothy Olifant
@jawar5673
@jawar5673 2 ай бұрын
Weirdly, I never had a problem with Coastal Highway in my Legendary playthrough. Buck just kinda popped off in my game.
@Outcastsage9033
@Outcastsage9033 2 ай бұрын
Apparently buck can't fire while he has scripted dialogue which is why alot of people sometimes struggle (not sure on regular dialogue)
@Monki_Lives_Again
@Monki_Lives_Again 4 ай бұрын
Truth and reconciliation is a bitch on co op if you lose that sniper on legendary
@justinnyugen7015
@justinnyugen7015 4 ай бұрын
gotta play support with the PP or Needler lol. The Plasma pistol definitely helps your sniper pal with the zealots
@metroidman3893
@metroidman3893 4 ай бұрын
Gravemind was always my favorite as a kid, glad to see I'm not alone.
@jph7472
@jph7472 4 ай бұрын
I love frogs and I love Halo already subbed
@moetrashu
@moetrashu 4 ай бұрын
truth and reconciliation without a sniper is pretty hard, i did that my first playthrough because i didn’t know where the sniper ammo was
@resplendentsolace
@resplendentsolace 4 ай бұрын
A friend and I were doing a halo 2 legendary play through together. Its almost more difficult playing coop... We got to regret and had a heck of a time. I remembered where the skull was (kind of) and thought that it made master chief's flashlight invisibility - that would have been a huge help. NOPE. I was wrong... All the enemies were invisible for the rest of the level. We were in too deep and couldn't turn around. We got it done though. Regret boss fight was a hell of a time. 💪
@jvjjjweitzel153
@jvjjjweitzel153 4 ай бұрын
Yeah just did that. My times are worse on Co-op than solo for Halo 2, because it is much harder to run past things that way.
@wampa9489
@wampa9489 4 ай бұрын
me and my friends are about to play every halo game so fun to know where we will suffer most.
@Neotokyovibes-WelcomeHome
@Neotokyovibes-WelcomeHome 4 ай бұрын
I replayed reach recenrly and had no trouble with the sabre section when it normally kicks my ass. Is it possible they might have fixed it?
@CaptainFALKEN
@CaptainFALKEN 6 күн бұрын
Long ass night of Solace all day. Always hated the Rogue Squadron missions. Went on forever.
@shizelds2414
@shizelds2414 3 ай бұрын
Truth and Reconciliation was the hardest level ever before I knew about the sniper ammo.
@wrighteousj
@wrighteousj 4 ай бұрын
I grabbed the skull on Regret my first legendary run bc I thought it turned me invisible…it turned everyone else invisible…
@AimlessSavant
@AimlessSavant Ай бұрын
Lol the underwater section didnt do me in that badly.
@johndarbyjd126
@johndarbyjd126 4 ай бұрын
I got caught in the death loop on Grave mind in the prison, then restarted the whole level, then immediately got caught in it again
@0IIIIII
@0IIIIII 4 ай бұрын
Awesome video good homage
@EwokHunter27
@EwokHunter27 4 ай бұрын
Whatever the hardest level is, I’ll play it today.
@ASwankyLemon
@ASwankyLemon 4 ай бұрын
I have a relative who got stuck on Halo 2’s Cairo station hangar bay 2 for about 2 years
@evgxmagma3520
@evgxmagma3520 4 ай бұрын
00:10 I’m surprised the flood got the rocket launcher. he had to drop the rocket, kill a flood near it, then let it get reanimated by an infection form for that.
@Frying1Pans
@Frying1Pans 4 ай бұрын
i remember when i first played halo ce 1 year ago, on easy and on keyboard/mouse, and i thought keyes was the worst thing ever, but replaying it recently on steam deck and on medium i find it to be probably my favourite level in the entire game, my new view on tb is the exact same as yours though
@Frying1Pans
@Frying1Pans 4 ай бұрын
keyes' outdoor sections in original ce graphics are some of my favourite looking areas in the game, i just love the blue-green glow of the coolant leaks
@Nighterac
@Nighterac 4 ай бұрын
Yup Keyes is how you do a reused level, it's so so much better than Two Betrayals
@sandman8920
@sandman8920 4 ай бұрын
I remember having a nightmare with regret a while ago hell of a feeling when I beat it. So for me that’s the one that stands out in all the bungie games, I can’t really remember anything about 4&5 and don’t want to 😅
@groovymckraut7179
@groovymckraut7179 4 ай бұрын
A sorta honourable mention for halo 3 is the holdout section on tsavo highway. The phantoms in legendary drop off a ton of high ranking brutes and a fuel rod chieftain which overrun the little bunker where the marines spawn. If you’re especially unlucky the wraiths aggro too early and start mortaring you from over the hill. It’s not super difficult, but probably the most challenging part of halo 3
@justinnyugen7015
@justinnyugen7015 4 ай бұрын
I just drive past that in my chopper. Just have to do it fast enough before the wraith and choppers get into position. The next area with respawning choppers and 3 wraiths always destroys me though.
@coxandrewj
@coxandrewj 4 ай бұрын
that “worst room” in regret, I managed to keep two marines alive my first legendary play through and they both had beam rifles. Made it much more tolerable
@francescosmith7859
@francescosmith7859 4 ай бұрын
Very fun video and discussion (also really enjoy the chicken suit. Maybe you can wear it for an upcoming livestream? :-). Are we getting a little preview of a forthcoming Halo Infinite Legendary play through? I hope so.
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