CORRECTION: I meant ENGINEEERS, not grenadiers when talking in the Death Korps section - the engineers are the shotgun ones with the gas bombs, the grenadiers are their now-discontinued storm troopers sorry!

I find it funny that we are at the point of converting Krieg into Steel Legion, when the Deathcorp were first presented as an alternate paint scheme for the Armageddon models.

Pity Catachan Jungle Fighters don't have a great range. I remember the old art for them that made me interested in doing weights ages ago lol. They really are badass.

Hey I think the Krieg Engineers have Shotguns and Gas Bombs, not Grenadiers, which get Hot-Shot Lasguns. Not that big but I thought I’d point that out

If we look at the models, it´s clear that in GW´s eyes, there´s only Cadians.

Unless you really know what you're doing during the list creation, just go born soldiers.

I think most normal guard lists will run Born Soldiers as a go-to. However, I think the other regiment traits are interesting enough to build lists around on their own. Blitz division/expert bombadiers with Ursula Creed is going to be interesting. Half your army can be artillery, and the other half can be in strategic reserves with melta-guns.

Catachan Jungle Fighters should have got a Heavy flamer in unit selection (bake that into the excessively higher additional points), along with the two Flamers... Why GW couldn't pull their finger out and also release new models is again beyond me!

Personally, REALLY tempted to do a small Maccabian Janissaries conversion army. Kitbash the Krieg and the Cadian boxes together, plus a third party appropriate head/helmet.

I'm thinking of a Penal Legion/Necromundan Hive Militia regiment, so for theme I'd go for Veteran Guerillas (due to their experience fighting skirmishes in an urban sprawl) plus either Recon Operators, Elite Sharpshooters or Brutal Strength.

I've wanted to run some Vostroyans for the longest time.

You have quickly become my first stop for 40k information. Zero fat to trim off your vids, thanks for the hard work :)

The Parade Drill rule should at least get to stack with First Rank Fire, then it would at least have a place in the game

@Auspex Tactics Praetorian Guard we’re mentioned in the comments all ready, but just thought I’d point out that Gaunts Ghosts were a metal kit back in 3rd edition. They had a command squad with Gaunt , Doc and a Piper etc they also released a small amount of Tanith first models which had different lasgun sculpts and a plasma gun

If they'd update the catachans, Id start buyng em.

The obvious answer is GET TO THE CHOPPA! (catachan). The few modern catachans they have released have been freaking amazing. It would be awesome to see some line troops released for them

I really like the idea of combining expert bombardiers with recon operators in an artillery list. Especially with the Feild guns being both artillery and platoon and buffable with creed. A couple of units of those heavy lascannons on turn one can really make it a bad day for whatever your opponents biggest thing is with some scout sentinels and move-move-move guardsmen putting everything in range of the buff

I've always been a Tallarn man, but I have some Cadians(Like the 120 conscripts I bought from a friend a couple years ago) so it is cool that I can field all my stuff and give them different rules. I do wish that each regiment got a datasheet like Cadian Shock Troops or Catachan Jungle Fighters, it'd be cool to have a squad of Valhallans that got folded in from a shattered company(bought for cheap off ebay), or my own Tallarn, but I suppose it wouldn't work to have the troops section of our codex be longer than 3 other sections put together.

Probably worth keeping an eye on the GW release schedule around the full guard launch, it's likely some of the old regiments are going to be made to order around that time.

Nice rundown, thank you. Personally I like that we can use anyone we want without penalty now, there's so many cool looking regiments out there. I hope I can make a squad of Maccabian Janissaries and Indigan Praefects one day, love their designs.

I'm currently theory crafting on this mix, elite sharpshooters & brutal strength Don't care for the strength boost but the ability to move heavy weapons (which I've a load of and am loathed to stick into dedicated heavy weapon squads) combined with a re-roll could be game-changing Consider 6 regular troop squads with missile/las, plus plasma/nade launchers. Run around all they want, fire the heavy one shot, re-roll if needed, if not, fire special and re-roll if needed. A 50% hit rate to 75% hit rate among that number of heavy/special weapons I'd like to hope would make a dent in most armies Combine with a vanquisher Russ and I could be making even more than a dent. Assuming this all doesn't get made redundant by 10th edition or something

I'm going to be turning new Cadians into Konig Armored, using some older models bought second hand (their officers, old tank/chimera commanders). I like their colors, their art is good if sparse, and they just sound cool. Ultra tankers.

I really wish Heavy Weapon Teams also got the Artillery keyword. I just think Cadian Shock Troops + Born Soldiers is vastly superior, but if Expert Bombardiers would benefit HWTs, I'd consider running regular infantry squads with heavy weapons.

“Which regiment to choose?” *breaths heavily through mask* *Grips shovel tightly*

It feels to me like they are going to release more kill teams in the future for different regiments. I hope they release more plastic regiment kits, it feels like with the mixed regiments that’s the direction they’re headed. Having a variety of troop options and being able to mix them would be really cool.

For those not scared of green stuff wanting to do Vostroyan First Born, go check out Battle Brothers Tabletop. Ben does an awesome video showing you how to mold with green stuff to convert the kits from the DKoK kit and some spare heads into Vostroyans. His models look absolutely amazing.

Catachan is where it's at. Who knows if I can make it competitive, but I'm going to certainly give it a shot. I may just field regular line infantry squads though, that way I can take advantage of the mobile heavy weapons with brutal strength and cover denial with veteran guerillas.

Noteable other regiments you say? WHERE ARE MY PRAETORIANS SAH?! *moustaches bristles*

I have a large collection of Catachan Jungle Fighters since 3rd edition including metal models. I was hoping they would get good rules and new upgrades but I guess GW doesn't need my support. I never liked the plastic Cadian models but Creed, Kelly and Pask were good models. I might use a tank regiment instead.

I just want Tanith models. I would probably play them as born soldiers for simplicity. They just have the coolest lore.

Personally thinking of doing grim demeanor for classic cult of sacrifice feeling, and then probably swift as the wind for pregame move or new cult of sacrifice as my Krieg army is mostly grenadiers anyway, a bit more tough. I kinda want to keep it fluffy.

I never felt that combined regiments were at the squad level. Company and maybe Platoon level. I do like flexibility and variety, though. So it’s hard to really find fault. I hope they continue to release new squads through kill team and get back to having a healthy spread of regiments.

question: If I over charge my plasma and lose the guy to rolling a 1, do the rest of the unit get the plus to hit from cult of sacrifice? or are all the shots considered "at the same time"?

Made a preliminary list with the complete rules video, actually seems ok

I'm wanting to do a Ventrillian Nobles regiment that's also inspired from WHFB Empire troops. I plan on basing them off of the 95th Rifles from Sharpe.

mechanized + veteran guerillas or born soldiers seems really good. blitz up the board and put down the hurt taking objectives

Vostroyans because I like them

I have a bunch of old Valhallan metal models. Wonder if I can do something with them.

Hello!! Love your videos! If I wanted to do a full pure Death Korp of Krieg army would I would need the Imperial army compendium and rhe new astra militarum codex? I have both. I know for the majority of the units I need the IAC but it doesn't have the infantry in the points🤔 any help would he greatly appreciated haha

Forge World used to be the place for guard models...You might be lucky enough to score some Deathcorps or Elysian droop troops models online for cheap.

More then ever I want to get a platoon of each unit that has models and field them in one mixed blob.

So you could feild an regiement with only cav you just need to run lord solar in an outrider detachment fill it up with three units of rough riders and with what ever you got left go heavy on tanks and blitz your enemy

It really sucks we have to choose between regimental traits and hammer now, before we got both and had cheaper infantry and better FRFSRF.

Dkok doctrine would work well spamming overcharge lasguns, if they overheat the rest of the squad gets +1 to hit

The vostroyan firstborn seem like an expensive conversion route but I really like their design

Cool video, but I wish you had a segment for praetorians as I am a new player and my first army is imperial guard and I am currently in the process of converting my whole army to Praetorians.

I am very unsure about the Krieg Armies. is it still possible to field Grenadiers as Legend Troops for a 9th Ed. Death Korps Army? Or do we have to proxy them as Death Korps Kasrkin/Stormtroopers (which in fact they are) And what about the FW Tanks like Macharius Vanquisher? still able to field them or do they break the army because of a lack of Keywords?

Sometimes I dream of more exclusive units for various regiments: airmobile light tanks for the Elysians, Cossack-style cavalry for Vostroyans, some kind of WWI super-heavy for Krieg with heavy sponson guns and something with a lot of turrets for the Valhallans.

How does exploding 6s work with born soldier 6s to hit are 6s to wound? do you get 2 auto wound on a 6 to hit?

Looks like I’m taking parade drill and elite sharpshooters for my mordian collection. So many lascannon rerolls if every squad has one

i am going Cadian 75th Armoured and making the shadowsword titans bane as my center piece

Can the Death Korps still use the hades breaching drill or the death rider squadron leader?

Does Heirloom Weapons have an exception clause for flamers?

Which of the regiments work best for running basilisks?

So what 3 special weapons can Deathkorps take? Can they triple up on 1 type like 3 plasma guns?

I’m using cadian shock troop rules and models and painting them as vresh grenadiers because I like the blue flak armour

Think this new doctrine system may lead to more people creating custom regiments. With cool kit bashes to go with. Loads of necromunda models make great starts to your own regiments.

I am running expert bombadiers+grim demeanor with the full intension of bombing guard squads stuck in melee

So many Blood Bowl teams, Warcry warbands and Necromunda gangs.... but we get only THREE plastic infantry options? One of which is like 20 years old... that's bullshit GW.

I want to make an army with one squad from each regiment, that would be fun

Wish they brought back valhallan ice warriors, so I could complete my fucking army which has been sitting idle for 14 years

Which regiment is good with anti-infantry, like against Orks and tyranids.

Recon operators + swift as wind in infantry heavy list for prefectus obsecus army

Ok I’ll be honest, I kinda hate Born Soldiers. It’s just a better subfaction that makes the gaurd so much less unique. I know I can’t control what other people play but if I know gaurd players they would choose the more creative, unique, and personal subfaction maker over the boring better one every time

I would choose Kreig, but I just don’t have the pockets.

If you run a list with a focus on LOTS of Lasguns with only weapons that have the Heavy tag, then going Parade Drill + Brutal Strength could actually be rather good - especially if you combine it with Take Aim! That’s 18 shots per squad at 24” hitting on 3+ with AP-1, keeping Marines at a 3+… In addition to that, you can move the squads away from the enemy, and still keep unloading at maximum capacity!

I feel like parade drill is getting sold short, surely it would combo well with brutal strength as you could get some extra shots without having to use FRFSRF, allowing you to use take aim instead? + infantry squads become more viable because of their heavy weapons teams and extra strength + fix bayonets is situationally useful to finish off weakened enemies

Praetorian

I was hoping the new codex gave you the option to go traitor and give rules for certain regiments like the Sons of Sek or the Blood Pact

What about the Kasrkin? Would they be viable?

I like what they did with the troop choices. Hate they got rid of weapon squads, vets and conscripts.

Can someone help me out i play age of sigmar and want to begin with 40k with a friend I wann do a horde list with the astra millitarum but i dont know whats better Whiteshields and cosncripts ? Or Cadia and guardsmen ? Please help me thank you have a nice day !!!

I feel like historical WW1/WW2 infantry could work for DKOK, Steel Legion, or Valhallans with a bit of conversion. It would be pretty cheap overall.

So straken lost his +1 catachan melee attack aura can priests still do this?

Engineers are the shotgun troops with mole launcher teams not grenadiers.

The fact that the Praetorian Guard was not in the video doesn’t surprise me, but it is a shame for how little representation my pith helmeted gentle men and women get. Tally Ho and what what.

Everybody says Creed was captured by Trollzyn, but if I remember it correctly - wasn't he actually saved? Wasn't he approached by Trazyn as the world was going down and told something akin to "come, your time has not come yet?" Its not like Trazyn dosn't love a little goodhearted messing-about - like sending a live Tesseract Labyrinth as a gift to an Inquisitor and challenged her to get out of it. Or like when he stole the god-forsaken ancient Bell artifact that started messing up his lair - he simply yeeted the thing into the webway.

Great video, but you were killing me at the beginning when you were using “regiment” to refer to Homeworld.

Nice

The Guard Regiment I choose is Brood Brothers, I'm planning a Genestealer Cults army. My idea is to have them be Afrika Korps themed, use a bunch of Ash Wastes miniatures from Necromunda, and the vehicles'll be converted WW2 Afrika Korps armoured cars from Bolt Action. I'm the only person on Earth who doesn't actually like the look of GsC vehicles. That's the plan, anyway...

I tried collecting krieg but it's so damn expensive I'm probably going to switch armies. Either Tau or Space Marine Successor Chapter

I'm thinking Veteran Guerillas and Armored Superiority. With Kasrkins taking Mechanized Infantry.

Did you mean the Engineer for the Death Korps instead of Grenadiers?

I always go for Catachan and Tanith 1st and only.

They’ll bring back death korps right?

I think catachan infantry in mass is more like a fas deployment force. If ypu pair your massed infantry with scout sentinals with las cannons and hunter killers. They all get to deploy as scouts and sieze objectives early. And lay down fiields of fire and efectively screen for other more heavy hitters or weapons teams in the back. Heck even usi g transports all of those transports will be able to start off 6" deeper into the board. The two thing they should change even if it makes them even more pricey is that they need their higher Str back. And they need infiltrate. It is lore friendly it matches the visual asthetics to the minis. It is also possible to leave the strength as is. Instead adding the different knives they use giving them unique stats and abilities. Making it so the disntguishing characteristic of your squad is its choice in cutlery. I personally dont see the reason we cant have catachan with beter weapon upgrades either. The officer especially.

I just got a combat patrol, and just paint my Cadians in another coloursceme , making them my own force

No Tanith, or the unit in Dark Tide?

Why are they memory holing Armageddon Steel Legion??

Valhallans were always my favourite.

I'd favor generic conscripts like troops with regiment veterans as sargents and specialists (like 1 in 5). And full regimental elite troops (with HQ instead of a sarge) with any chosen bonus, regardless of aesthetics. Any troops whose sarge is within 6"/12" of an HQ can get the boost as well. This makes imperial guard less vulnerable to the flavor of the month meta. I expect a few huge changes in 10th. Instead of removing the Toughness roll altogether, they could introduce an autowound if S at least 3xT. Next most light infantry could be rebalanced as T2 and a 6+ or no save. Some weapons, flamers and frag, should never have any AP but could get an extra S (small S4 and large S6) or be cheaper. This in turn makes fully armoured infantry stand out more with T3 and a 5+ save, 4+ for light power armor. Rebalance point cost, possibly by making transports cheaper or allow move plus disembark and more benefit of cover. I'd tone down AP and buffs to it, so armor becomes more relevant. Buffs like doctrines should only buff AP up to half range. You could allow multiple to be in effect with this toned down version. Like having more S6, it would save some rolls to have more S9 weapons. Like melta weapons I'd have as S7 -2 and S9-3 at half range. Optionally I'd make multimeltas have 2 shots of 2(3) damage instead of 1*D6(+2). Single meltas can then be a single shot. I'd have the range at 24" H or 18" As. Plasma should be more forgiving, getting one or more "hot" counters at a natural 1 and only risking wounds when overcharging when hot. The damage profile could be S9 -2 D6 when overcharging. With a random number of shots it can be fun and extremely variable. The regular shots could be kept as is, or reduced to 6 -1 1. I also expect more focus on tactical movement and limitation to vehicles. For instance, the outer 6" and one path through the map could be passable for non-walker vehicles and all other is difficult terrain. This lowers movement (unless one has grav boots, jump packs, etc) but provides at least light cover. Vehicles can be compensated by getting the doctrine style AP bonus at half range as default. In addition (if they can't already) they should always be able to shoot, even in engagement range or when falling back, at no penalty. Their movement may count as free attacks on any target 3 T lower in their way. I'd see the cover effect merged with the invul part of the armor save swapped with the wound roll. This now reversed roll normally can be skipped (a 1+) but has all the precision effects of wound rolls (like sniping on a roll of 6). Light, dense and full cover increase the needed number. A 5++ or 6++ invul adds 1, a normal 3++ or 4++ save adds 2 and some shielding may improve cover by one level if beyond a certain range (12" or 18"). Ion Shields may add three (so you need a 4++ as attacker) but only full cover (50% obscured) can add 1. This setup makes armor and AP remain effective regardless of invuls. Barrage weapons should be nice but situational. Like they always have a -2 to hit if no LOS, a -1 if they or any ally has LOS, but ignore one or two levels of cover. Missiles/rockets should never get the doctrine/vehicle AP bonus at half range, but be boosted to 9 -2 D6 krak or 6 0 1 frag. These can be made the cheap alternative to the (9 -3/-4 D6) lascannon, and introduce a point defence aspect as a counter. Something like overwatch vs incoming rockets. Bolt weapons should be reduced in number and standardized to 4 -1 1 for regular. The type and range changes from 12" Pi, 18" As2, 24" RF1 or H2, +6" if a 2H rifle. A special issue As2 24" would be an upgrade for either regular or carbine. I'd make bike guns and aggressor guantlet gun twin linked carbines As4 18" (tlc) and Stormbolters the special issue As4 24" version. Special issue gives access to Special Issue Ammo, which has half range and either adds an AP or gives S8 vs non-vehicles. Sisters and Grey Knights may have blessed bolts with bonuses vs psychic and daemonic targets. Heavy bolters I'd dub "bolt cannons) I'd keep as 36" H3 5 -1 2 next to a H2 7 -1 3 autocannon brother. This last to offset a very common appearance of a -1 damage defence.

Harker and Straken are not Resin. Nice video!

Huhu I really like this video

How to play elysians?

The fact scions only get 'exploding 6's is so abysmal compared to the other regiment choices. The Taurox Prime doesnt even get that either. Utter failure for both thematic and fun.

Auspex where are my praetorians ay? how could you forget the most dapper guard in the galaxy ?

I think Catachan were done dirty purely because Games Workshop is intentionally making their rules bad to discourage people from buying the models because they have no intention of renewing Catachan; I mean the only way you can get Jungle Fighters is to order them online and they send you 24 year old metal figurines in a generic GW white box, they don't even make the Catachan blisters or model boxes anymore, haven't since 2005 and on top of this they are all dwindling old new stock from a warehouse; So rather than update them with plastic replacements, they'd rather just keep selling the old stock and since they're running out, they're making the units crap to discourage people purchasing them so they can quietly phase them out. In other words, they wanted to get rid of them like they did with Mordians, Tallarn, Steel Legion and Valhallan (all 3rd edition models and they all had their own codexes too - either as a supplement book with 12 pages or an issue of White Dwarf), but because they were so popular with Gen X and Y players of the game, GW knew if they got rid of them outright like these did, the only age group who bought IG models within the hobby would get super mad and would stop buying models, so they didn't. As for Vostroyan Firstborn, GW had *a lot* of new old stock metal models for these as they were not very popular sale during 3rd edition, they didn't actually print them to order as they told the public, they were trying to get rid of new old stock and BSing about doing limited runs to encourage a quick fire sale due to taking advantage of FOMO (which GW often does) because they wanted to get rid of them quick for some reason. Oh a little fun fact about the Vostroyan, not only are their weapons ancient hand-e-down relics, their clothing style is equally extremely archaic, because their uniforms are in the style of the Excertus Imperialis, the precursor to the Astra Militarum of the Great Crusade era; A uniform style which was replaced after the Horus Heresy with Guilliman's reforms which lead to the creation of the Astra Militarum and the style of uniform used by most of the Imperial Guard for the next 9 thousand years; Yet for some reason the Vostroyans still use it.

No Pretorians?

Where is the Tallarn, Mordian Iron Guard or Valhallan Regiments.... I've only been waiting since 3rd edition for the plastic models to come out

Drop troops, new cadians with jet packs, lots of scions for their forward assault units. Lots of sentinels.