Which is best? Ford Focus ST or Volkswagen Golf GTI

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7 жыл бұрын

2013 Ford Focus ST (ST2) vs 2017 Volkswagen Golf GTI (Sport)
252 hp / 270 tq vs 220 hp / 258 tq
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Battle of the hot hatches, the 2013 Ford Focus ST is definitely more fun to drive, but it does not inspire confidence and it is slowing in every metric, 0-60, quarter mile and around the track. Watch and find out :-)
As much as I hate to give it to the GTI it's indeed a better all arounder. The Focus is just too niche and too specific because of its manual only decision. I like that when I see a Focus ST I know he/she is shifting the gears themselves instead of having to try and peak and see if they are using an auto/manual transmission.
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@firehead1221 7 жыл бұрын

I understand you have an ST and you were "comparing" the two because you already know what the ST feels like, but it would be nice to split the video between driving in the GTI/ST. Not hating, I really enjoyed the comparison. Helps a lot since I'm in the market.

@koldpizza 7 жыл бұрын

should have drove the manual GTI. just bought mine a week ago and im in love

@DerrickMoy 7 жыл бұрын

+Knuklez would have loved to compare the manuals side by side. Sadly just don't know anyone that would allow me to test it.

@perfectlybalanced8995 3 жыл бұрын

Derrick: The Golf GTI has way too many badges Focus RS: Hold my beer

@iandavis8755 3 жыл бұрын

People buy the FoST because it is a driver's car. The Mk3 (pre-2015 like mine) models were more raw, more juvenile, and the Mk3.5 (post 2015 models) were actually toned down and refined, to appeal to a broader audience. I have always appreciated the GTI (well, the ones with a manual anyways), but they are VERY common compared to the ST. Even the Subaru WRX is a lot more common to see on a daily basis, vs the ST. Sure, the ST has its share of drawbacks, not unlike any car for that matter. The Ecoboost engines are fully capable of decent fuel economy (but that is relative to ones love of torque, which the ST has everywhere), and they are also capable of reliability and longevity (keep out of the boost until the engine oil and turbo are upto temp first, then you are good to go). The ST is more than just it's engine and the Recaro seats. It has unique chassis and suspension design and tuning, and an assortment of upgraded parts over the regular Foci.

@pinalloy6505 7 жыл бұрын

Good work! Keep it up

@DerrickMoy 7 жыл бұрын

+Pinalloy thanks 🙏 appreciate the compliment!

@johnd3044 7 жыл бұрын

Great review man 👍 Thank you.

@DerrickMoy 7 жыл бұрын

+Jonathan Deleon thanks! I appreciate the compliment 😁

@omanstyles2449 6 жыл бұрын

ST seats do fold flat. YOu have to pull the bottoms up first. Good Video.

@DerrickMoy 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah I've tried this it isn't actually flat though.

@rntjake 2 жыл бұрын

@@DerrickMoy same for me it doesn’t go down

@jayczyzyk9707 6 жыл бұрын

Focus st is sport tuned to rotate and attack corners

@CaenFilms 4 жыл бұрын

If it has better suspension for corners I’d rather get the ST for autocross or track days. If I wanted a utility vehicle I’d get some other trim focus or golf

@jsto330 7 жыл бұрын

Ok tell me this, which one is bigger on the inside Gti or focus,

@DerrickMoy 7 жыл бұрын

Are you referring to the actual volume of the interior?

@DerrickMoy 7 жыл бұрын

In terms of passenger volume the GTI has 3.5 more cubic feet than the ST has.

@Hot-1LE 6 жыл бұрын

no way the focus st is cramped, the gti has more room especially for the driver.

@givmetheloot 5 жыл бұрын

@Hulk GTI which car you prefer if you could only choose 1?

@joelm3954 5 жыл бұрын

Exterior designs are a subjective thing. If I’m a teenager or in my 20’s then I would consider a “loud” looking car. I think older GTI owners embrace the subdued design knowing the performance and heritage is top notch for its price.

@DerrickMoy 5 жыл бұрын

For sure, the ST is definitely a bit more aggressive. GTI much more refined and grown up. The ST sits right in the middle between boy racer and the most practical with the GTI.

@emldV2 4 жыл бұрын

So I'm not alone about the ST looking more aggressive ok great.

@bentleythe3rd 4 жыл бұрын

I think the GTI has set the standard for the best hot hatch look. Just a clean classic look over the generations.

@joelm3954 4 жыл бұрын

@@bentleythe3rd if I can afford it, I think the VW R is the one for me. It pretty much checks off everything I want.

@ThePosh97 6 жыл бұрын

Vernon hills? Liberty? Illinois

@DerrickMoy 6 жыл бұрын

+Oz Es Vernon Hills

@ThePosh97 6 жыл бұрын

Derrick Moy nice, round lake good sir. Getting a st soon

@DerrickMoy 6 жыл бұрын

+Oz Es nice love the ST makes it difficult to want any other cars for the price.

@raptoranderson 5 жыл бұрын

“This thing has a two-point-oh turbo ...” I’m done watching this video now.

@SR-xe8zh 6 жыл бұрын

Gti

@DerrickMoy 5 жыл бұрын

Definitely more refined

@thomaslaursen6540 6 жыл бұрын

VW GTI of course.

@DerrickMoy 6 жыл бұрын

Much more refined, but in my opinion not as "fun" of course that's my opinion. If you want fast and tight handling the GTI's chassis is much better.

@aaronr_dev 7 жыл бұрын

Those numbers for the st are way too low. A stock focus st definitely has higher whp and torque than that.

@DerrickMoy 7 жыл бұрын

I've seen many different arguments about COBB's results. Here is another that states similar numbers to what I'm referring to: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sJuPgcakt8idlqs.html. Honestly, I want to run the dyno sheets myself so I can see a difference. I'm not big enough yet, but maybe eventually something I do in the future.

@gunslinger227 7 жыл бұрын

Derrick Moy I have my own stock dyno sheet that says 237WHP on stock tune. Cobb low balled that video for advertising purposes

@brianpierce5786 7 жыл бұрын

I've seen stock dyno's here on youtube that have shown higher hp/tq than his numbers.. and if he has a stage 1 tune then he should be significantly higher than he stated. Derrick Moy you need to get those in for a dyno man!

@jessicaluna2921 6 жыл бұрын

st all day bay bay

@mstglory86 6 жыл бұрын

In an auto car, u STEER a car... In a manual car, u DRIVE a car

@deanmarr785 4 жыл бұрын

GTI vs ST is not fair to the ford. It's like comparing a 350z to a 911.

@DerrickMoy 4 жыл бұрын

Haha no

@deanmarr785 4 жыл бұрын

@@DerrickMoy VW is about to make it's 8th generation GTI. The ST has been discontinued. Run along now.

@flipfloplogic 6 жыл бұрын

The golf does more better than the focus but the focus does one thing better than the golf. The golf is a more well rounded car. The focus is the hot girl at the party that gets by on her looks. What makes her interesting is only skin deep. The golf is the cute quiet girl in the corner that gets attention by being attractive AND smart.

@Hot-1LE 6 жыл бұрын

focus dosnt look that good man lmao

@tsat9436 6 жыл бұрын

Big FING Box it’s an analogy ...

@Cupat1 6 жыл бұрын

That's their way of describing it

@goodchemistry1 Жыл бұрын

Car brain